whatever

Yesterday, user Ohour1 was gaining access to the github info and allegedly looking at who Q actually is, and then his account was suspended after he showed all the logs.

Q may have been legit in the beginning, but whatever he was then, he is certainly a LARP, OR even worse, some sort of CIA psyop now.

We have at least four sources that have confirmed this: 1. Paul Furber (aka Baruch the Scribe) who ran the 8chan CBTS board Q was posting on. He recognized the problem, and was able to confirm the change in IP addresses for the source. The date of the change per his analysis is Jan. 5. You can double check what I'm saying on either his board or his Twitter feed. 2. AIM 4 Truth basically came to the same conclusion as Furber via an independent analysis from Doug Gabriel and his "conclave," who are basically a group of retired intelligence folks who are still quite knowledgeable and connected. 3. Alex Jones reports that he was told that Q was originally the real deal, but was then told it was taken over by bad intelligence operatives who are now using it as a psyop. 4. Jerome Corsi was doing analyses until a few months ago, when he saw red flags in the posts about people making money from Q.

The Corsi thing made sense to me. He is absolutely right that any American having problems with making money off their valuable time and talents is bullshit. I mean, even "Q" would be making money as an MI operative, right? It was at that point I started looking back and seeing the patterns of self-promotion, followed by occasional spanking, followed by constant repetition of ridiculous slogans. Just like the lefty commies that they now are. I was certainly feeling like there was some bullshit going on up to that point, but still felt like an idiot after I embraced the truth that it is now a psyop/LARP, even if I felt the freedom of being released from the power of the lie.

Was original Q legit? Remains to be seen. I guess we will know within a few months. I know I will be getting more serious about preparing for a direct physical civil war in the coming days. But if Trump actually does Tweet the words "My fellow Americans, the Storm is upon us......." (as per post 55) then I will embrace that there really have been some brave military guys working behind the scenes. That would be cool. But honestly, I am not counting on it, as that might have been what the whole thing might have been from the beginning - a psyop to get me to settle on my lees.

Start a real thread named: "Q is legit, Obama and HIllary are in Gitmo. Massive arrests have been made."

Or get the fuck out.

Unirocks interview on Q being a LARP, etc, etc...

https://youtu.be/7smsiwvZlyM

JFK Jr. is Q.

Put yourself in the oven, dumbass. JFK Jr. is dead.

Elvis Presley is also dead. Retardism knows no bounds.

It could be a psyop designed to increase Trump's ratings. Remember when Anons vowed to take down Trump in early 2016? And then FBIAnon, MegaAnon and others started spilling secrets that made it look like Trump was doing something great. Theoretically you could drop some breadcrumbs and let the anons go digging for buried treasure, which they will find plenty of even if it's not all true. Sure, some is true and some if it is overreaching, especially the several degrees of connections. Some autists are willing to dig all day and night for the "truth." Hey, as long as Q gets them on their side. I feel a bit discouraged with Trumps lukewarm reaction to Q shirts and signs. Basically almost no reaction at all and some unoptimisitc facial expressions.

To offend or not to offend... This is actually a very irrelivent discussion. Why does it even matter? Oh yeah, because if the unfortunate many believing in this group of poeple and are let down in a huge way, their trust will be demolished greatly...

Test all things and hold fast to what is true

Posting this here because I'm not allowed to make a post and I don't care to gain "CCP," whatever that is:

Al Vernacchio made a TED talk called "Let's talk about sex — and pizza." He's a professional sex education teacher for pre-pubescent children only - except for this TED talk about pizza... It's a very strange talk, and I found it very strange how obsessed he is with pizza - not just metaphorically - but the symbolism of pizza, as you can see from the pictures I scraped from his personal Facebook profile. I copied them because I figured he would make his profile private after since his strange TED talk hit the conspiracy subreddit. However, I cannot find any evidence that he's been looked into - and I really think he should. He strikes me as a sicko. Why is he so obsessed with an official slang symbol for pedophilia?

These are most of the pictures from Al Vernacchio's photo albums from his Facebook profile: https://ibb.co/kd3Kfe https://ibb.co/eWxO6K https://ibb.co/fPRi6K https://ibb.co/cVy7Yz https://ibb.co/mOOkLe https://ibb.co/epuEDz

How can we rectify this situation? At the very least we have a child sex educator who is very-pro sex & experimentation who is oblivious of pedophilia symbolism - who has chosen a pedo symbol for his child sex ed class!

its the hacker community sharing their information

I think it’s A.I.

"Anyone that has known me for any length of time on this site knows that I follow the evidence, and will flip on a dime if I find my position untenable. This is the place to cause that to happen"

Okay!! That is what I like to hear!! WE all should be willing to change our opinions about information any time we want, provided someone or something is presented that makes more sense. Love hearing that! I feel strongly the same way. Only thing I have a tendency to do is wait until more is put out before I form opnions about most things. I see way too much lunging on here.

LOL

/giggles

yes

I rejected the validity of Qanon out of hand in the beginning due to some of the preposterous predictions that played right into the hands of Trump supporters and Pizzagaters. But now I think in hindsight that was done for the purpose of building a following.

Later I stumbled upon the interpretations of Q's posts by Praying Medic and became an ardent believer. Ive looked at some of the work now and then by other "translators" and none of them come close to the analyses by PM, especially with regard to.Spygate. When I saw those surveillance photos of Page and Strzok at London's Winter Festival in December 2016 my belief was solidified.

So if you need more information by which to determine for yourself if Q is valid, I suggest you do the following : Limit yourself to Praying Medic's YouTube videos for the months of July and August 2018. PM has posted a long program in July setting forth the "proofs" that Q is the real deal. Then listen to the rest of the videos in chronological order. If you are out of sequence, you will miss out on some of the predictive elements. PM will take you back in time to earlier posts to clarify or explain a current event. Alot of Q's posts consist of questions or suggestions for you to research and analyze the evidence for yourself. He will not spoonfeed you. But what Pizzagater has time to do that. Thats where PM steps in and does the work for you. Way more often than not I agree with PM.

A week or more ago Q predicted that something big was going to happen and boy was Q right. Apparently Trump was going to once again acknowledge Q supporters in Tampa which he had done at a prior rally and which caused a larger contingent of supporters in Tampa with Q tee shirts and signs. The motorcade honked at the Q sfolks and this time the press asked: Who is Q? What is Q?

Q said that the MSM would have their 4:30 AM instructions from the TPTB to discredit Q. Over 50.news outlets without any examination of Q posts labeled..Q a conspiracy theory, a dangerous and deranged theory at that. Finally the altenative news media shouted out with equal fervor: Q IS NOW MAINSTREAM!! The Streisand effect worked magnificently. Praying Medic produces a great video on this happening. Child predators is now a topic referenced by Trump, Qanon and the AltNews. We are hopefully on the coattails of the Great Awakening. For those of you following Spygate, let Q and Praying Medic brighten your day.

Im sure there are some others critiquing Q and if you know of any who are good at what they do, let us know who they are.

Why do you think trump isn't illuminati? https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/756874/Donald-Trump-Illuminati-or-not-New-World-Order

I don't care if Q is a LARP it's opened the minds of millions of normies and some clueless Anons as to what we know really goes on. Has David Icke amassed such a following in a mere year? No, he's reached a lot, in 25 years. Q has reached millions in a year.

Here ya go: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1014368693801742337.html Happy reading!!

lol, as the left leaning, left leaving libertarian the piper is playing for...Q’s Socratic method does intrigue without offending. I know I’m being led, however don’t feel like a sales person is gaslight hypnotizing. I feel like a teacher is asking vs. trapped in a time share presentation. Everything happened organically, at the speed I could take it.

Why trust Trump team, even tho not in my wildest liberal dreams? 1. When the deep state offers to make him “$$$” ... not a temptation. Already rich. Melania famously quipped her house was nicer than the White House.

2nd tactic : we’ll tell everyone you’re a pervert. Trump laughs b/c Go ahead! they Already KNOW! His divorces, his affairs, his preferences all openly discussed. Benefit of being honest sinner: devil can’t work your shame if you’ve already confessed your truth. MSM taught me Trump street enough to recognize and manipulate gold diggers, while being gentlemen enough to pay those Hookers twice.

& Trump openly f’ s with the CIA, Brennan hates him... which may as well be an endorsement for me, b/c that’s my “deep state” euphemism in front of normies

im on the fence myself, but strongly leaning towards believing he's real. However, I didn't see it mentioned in the comments but Sean Spicer did an AMA earlier and was asked if Q was legit, Spicer replied "no".

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/94ebeg/hi_everyone_im_sean_spicer_former_white_house/e3kcynw/

https://imgoat.com/uploads/5ded5353c5/131910.jpg

Now of course one has to wonder why Spicer isn't still in the white house and would he even know if Q was legit or not. But in any case, figured it was relevant.

Whatever your opinions on Q are at least your trying to find perspective through evidence and conversing with people who have differing opinions, and no matter what side of the fence you come out on I will still respect your approach. Personally Im all for Q, Its the only ray of light ive seen in a while, and i kinda need the Hopium. My only concerns are the speed at which things are happening but Rome wasnt built in a day and its not gonna be destroyed in one.

Hey captain dipshit have you watched this guy eric clopper name the jew??? Wonder what you think about it..

Its freaking long but worth it.

https://youtu.be/FCuy163srRc

Q is short for a low IQ, thus it got cut in half, like all of your IQs do when you follow him / her / it / they. Off to go bake some bread using yeast in my kitchen in an approved oven, with permission from myself. Follow the crumbs.

What's interesting to me is that when it comes to this Q faggot and all of his 'mysterious' rhetorical questions, most of which are so goddamn vague they could be interpreted in a dozen different ways, many of you so-called right-wingers start stupidly reee-reee-reee-ing in his defense just like any retarded leftist mouth-breather. This is painfully obvious in the title of the post itself, for fuck's sake: I don't have to prove a negative, i.e., that Q is a fake, you have to prove the positive, i.e. that he's real - and do so in such a way that alternative explanations don't have any reasonable merit.

This is "Empiricism 101", folks. You should have learned that in middle school. Sadly, when it comes to Q, you're so fucking desperate to believe you can't even hang on to the simplest tenets of rational thought. If you did, the post title would read: "Prove that Q is real", and the only fucking arguments that anyone would pay attention to are those involving ACTUAL FACTS. I guess, like the pseudo-intellectual basement-dwellers on reddit, you're too busy jizzing yourself over belonging to "Q's Secret Clubhouse"!

I think Q is nothing more than Trump's brilliantly planned re-election campaign in a gamified psuedo-underground format to keep people engaged and emotionally invested in a "battle" they are led to believe they are a part of. But that doesn't mean I consider everything or even ANYTHING Q eludes to to be fabricated, just carefully designed to be as enticingly vague as possible to appeal the widest variety of voters as possible & given the spread of people that have been sucked into the Q universe, I think they've done a good job.

That being said, after witnessing first-hand what happened with Bernie & our revolution & brand new congress, I'm NEVER going to vote for another Democrat ever in my life, so I'm loving watching the #walkaway & #qanon crowds getting bigger and bigger no matter how much I may believe they are being played.

I DO very much worry about the religious ferver some of the Q followers are exhibiting though, and mostly for their own metal health sakes. Believing so completely in "honest men holding positions of power" is risky business to say the least. If Q gets sloppy, or if nothing ever really comes of the plan/promises, or if the mainstream somehow manages to turn them into laughing stocks & then Donald carelessly disavows them, I know some of the most emotional followers might become suicidal because I watched it (& experienced it to a smaller extent) when Bernie transitioned from "bringing the fight all the way to the DNC in Philadelphia" into full on anti Russia bigotry & prowar Democrat bullshit.

The idiots in the movement kept following Bernie for sure, but the decent people who just hated corruption, knew what a horrific scam Obamacare was, and believed we needed to spend our tax money here at home rather than on endless wars for a handful of mega corporations really had a tough time when the reality of Bernie's fraud (or possibly just cowardice) was staring us in the face.

I don't like the cruel rhetoric about Mexican immigrants that I'm hearing from Trump. I don't like the gutting of environmental protections. And I certainly don't like the hints of increasing our military presence in the Middle East, BUT I've grown so weary of the hysterical nonsense from the pussy hat idiots in my town (Seattle) that I will happily vote for him in 2020 unless the greens or libertarians run somebody amazing, just to hurt the Democrats the most.

That's where I am about Q

Great post. @Crensch

Q mixes truth and lies together.

why would anyone trust a shill faggot like @Crensch who in the early days of this sub pretended not to know that jews sacrifice children https://imgoat.com/uploads/5ded5353c5/131618.png

I felt I needed to follow Q because I know media is worse than worthless and it gave me hope that things were happening behind the scenes. After Q posted the pic of NK from an airplane at the time Trump was in the area and then it was in the video he tweeted, I was convinced....also, the rash of aviation and military accidents along with planes turning around for dumb reasons can't just be a coincidence.

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Donald Trump is a Freemason. Donaldf Trump is a Jesuit. Donald Trump's Taj Majal hotel was saved from bankruptcy by James Alefantis family,. Rothschild. Donald Trump was a bussiness partner of Rockefeller. Donald Trump is CEO of USA INC, which is owned by the International bankers led by Rothschild. Donald Trump and our entire "government" work for and are paid by the International Bankers. Q never menions this. By the way, who is Q? Spooky.

The sole purpose of this sub is to derail good threads and sell us that the system is legitimate, but has some bad apples. The new leader is fighting for us behind the scenes. We will never see it, but an anonymous source will give us behind the scenes play by play. Lies from top to bottom. The pedo mods here use thread labeling to control the perception of what you read. Sticky? Guess you guys are in control of this sub, not us.

I have said it once and I will say it again. I don't trust the guy/girl. But do find reading about him/her very interesting.

I liked the post. And the way you savagely argument your points. But I certainly have no dog on this fight.

I am just interested on the subject. But it is still fishy to my eyes. No specifics just my personal feelings about the whole subject.

Great post @Crensch, even the regular q-haters are scared of you, wow. Why is it such a big problem to discuss Q without calling anyone crazy or stupid for believing it? v/Pizzagate know what feeling very well. Also, nice 4D you are pulling here, not bad optics.

If it was a larp, why did Jerome Corsi (ex-mossad according to a Rockefeller's book) come against it when Q called people like him controlled opposition, thus the term Paytriot (a person who is a patriot as long as donations keep coming, ie you have to donate to get "special" content)? It seems odd that they would burn their mockingbird assets.

If it is a larp, why did the MSM print out 24 articles against Q in less than 24 hours? Seems organized, doesnt it? You might say "but dooob, maybe they are at the same time promoting the movement to republicans and demonizing it to democrats to make us all look crazy" and I would remind you that the same reasoning can be used to cast doubt on Pizzagate.

@Crensch I'm not sure why you pinged me to present an argument as to why Q is a LARP. I was on the fence until an anon asked Q to prove himself by telling Trump to use the phrase 'tip top' in his next speech. On Easter Sunday, which was the POTUS' next speech following the request, Trump did use the term 'tip top' and even reinforced it by following it with 'tippy top'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQMACcjiFo, https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=uwQMACcjiFo

Not saying to believe or disbelieve but the awakening of people cannot be denied, and truthers on social media are red plling them to death.

Those who cannot understand that we cannot simply start arresting w/o first ensuring the safety & well-being of the population, shifting the narrative, removing those in DC through resignation to ensure success, defeating ISIS/MS13 to prevent fail-safes, freezing assets to remove network-to-network abilities, kill off COC to prevent top-down comms/org, etc etc. should not be participating in discussions.

Q

I don't necessarily think Q is a LARP, but I do think he is part of a pro-Trump PR campaign. I don't see Trump as a savior; I see him as just another elite with his own set of scandals that he wants to keep covered up. I'm not in a position to be able to make a long, sourced comment at the moment, and I apologize for that. I can, however, lay out some reasons I have for not jumping on the Q train:

1. Any time someone says to "trust the plan" or encourages trust of anyone in DC, that seems to me like propaganda. An opiate for the masses. The reality is that the swamp won't drain itself. Anyone encouraging people to sit on their hands or "dig" online is suspect IMO. Real change doesn't happen online.

2. If he was such a threat, he wouldn't have been allowed to continue posting for almost a year now. Also, if he was truly unbiased, he would've dropped something on Trump by now. Trump isn't exactly scandal-free.

3. He's made big claims, like some members of the "Deep State" are being held at Guantanamo, or that Guantanamo is being prepared for their arrival.

4. He's been endorsed by celebrities, including Roseanne, who is a self-proclaimed kabbalist and seems to me like controlled opposition. She also tweets Trump's praises on a regular basis.

5. He's been wrong, but then says disinfo is necessary. How can he be trusted if he's admitted to spreading disinfo in some posts? Sure, you could say he's spreading awareness, but are one-sided truths better than outright lies? Which would you employ if you were running a PR campaign for yourself? I would say this particular point is what makes him harmful in my eyes. Anyone who claims to have high-level intel but drops half-truths is working for someone.

Either way, this is one of those things I don't think we will ever be 100% sure of either way. I personally think it best to take it with a heavy dose of skepticism. The deep state has no problem sending in false saviors to keep their peace; this also must not be forgotten.

An idea I'm entertaining but still hammering the details out on: The Wikileaks emails that brought on Pizzagate were released only 30 minutes after Trump's pussy tape got leaked. Did Trump have those emails leaked? Wikileaks has not released anything anti-Trump, but they claim to be unbiased. Roger Stone tweeted "it'll soon be Podesta's time in the barrel" in August 2016, prior to Pizzagate. Once the emails were released, Pizzagate begins and the media starts talking, however badly, about people believing Hillary and the Democrats were running a child sex ring. This ideology spreads, Trump wins the election and becomes an idol to many who believe he's "draining the swamp". Again with the false savior ideology. When that idea begins to fade (at least as I noticed on v/pizzagate), enter Qanon. Many people here who trust Trump and Qanon don't seem to have entertained the idea that they could be wrong, or considered what steps Trump would take if he was really trying to pull one over on us.

Good job, bud.

Wright Item 1 Analysis

I'm not going to go into this much detail for each of Wright's 55 items, but I want to explain Q/HLI/Senate Anon/Tory Smith's basic method. The very first item is a good example.

CLAIM: Q knew the purpose of Jared Kushner's classified trip to Saudi Arabia several months before any news report.

FALSE. The screenshots Wright provided show nothing of the kind. There was a news story on Oct 29th about Kushner going to Saudi. Then Q asked a question on the 2nd without actually mentioning Kushner's name. Then there was a purge reported Nov 4th. However, Q didn't tell us about the purge, and he didn't supply any kind of "inside" detail whatever. Eventually in April 2018 the Daily Mail connected Kushner with the purge, but Q never did. Plus, the way that Q set up his question led in a totally different direction. He had a bunch of text about Huma Abedin's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood, then asked "Who took an undisclosed trip to Saudi Arabia? What was the purpose of a f2f v phone call?" The next day, he kept at the Huma theme, saying:

What data just dropped? Why is this relevant? HUMA. HUMA. HUMA. Where is HUMA? Who is HUMA connected to? What organization? What is HUMA's family history? How did HUMA meet HRC? What did HRC say about HUMA that demonstrates how close they are? Why are D's dropping HRC all of a sudden? Were deals made w/ select D's? Can we expose every crooked politician? 70%. HUMA. Follow HUMA. Alice & Wonderland.

This was just a routine part of Q's shotgun-blast "cold reading" technique. Wright is projecting what he wants to see on Q, and ignoring just how utterly useless and random Q's barrage of breadcrumbs really is. Long-form articles about the Saudi purge in the New Yorker or the Guardian (for example) never mention either Huma or the Brotherhood. She was not indicted as promised on November 6th, nor was John Podesta indicted on November 3rd. The purge was about corruption and getting control of royal family assets.

During those days Q asked a blizzard of 269 rhetorical questions: 13 on the 28th, 45 on the 29th, 1 on the 30th, 36 on the 31st, 43 on the 1st, and 131 on the 2nd. Let's look at some more of the 267 questions that Q asked during that time.

• Could John McCain's surgery have been fake?
• Who did POTUS meet with yesterday?
• Why were certain rooms at the White House renovated?
• What firm was contracted to conduct the renovations?
• Would you believe a device was placed somewhere in the WH that could actually cause harm to anyone in the room and would in essence be undetected?
• Why did Soros transfer the bulk of his ‘public’ funds to a NPO?
• What slush fund did AG Sessions (through DOJ) put an end to?
• Four carriers & escorts in the pacific? Why is that relevant?
• Would it blow your mind if I told you BO has been to NK and perhaps there now?
• Why is Donna running for cover? Was a deal granted in exchange for something? Who made the deal?
• Who controls NK? Who really controls NK?

At this point, no evidence has surfaced that McCain's surgery was fake, or that Obama ever went to North Korea, or that there was a "device" placed in a room in the White House. There's no evidence that the presence of four carriers in the Pacific meant anything special. Nothing has turned up about a deal for Donna Brazile. And again, Q was flat-out wrong about John Podesta or Huma Abedin being indicted. There is also nothing to suggest that Kim Jong Un isn't in control of North Korea.

And remember, these are just 15 of the 268 questions he asked on those days. I'm not trying particularly hard to cherry-pick the worst examples out of those five days of questions. They're all like this. Running down all these supposed breadcrumbs, all these phony leads, takes a lot of time. That's their purpose. You're supposed to be awestruck and exhausted at the very idea of unraveling all the threads of the conspiracy.

I complained about this same technique back in November of last year, when he used it under the persona of WisconsinIsCorrupt. In the space of a random span of four days, he accused 67 different people and organizations in Wisconsin of somehow being part of some evil network. They included DuPont, the port of Racine, the Gates Foundation, and the Mayo Clinic. As per his usual style, he didn't offer any evidence whatever to support any of his claims. Interestingly, during that initial period of Oct 28 through Nov 2nd, Q asked these two questions:

What is the Mayo Clinic? Who sits on the BOD there?

This is important, because it shows what a bad idea it was for David Brock / Media Matters to assign one guy to maintain the cover-up. At this point in our story, the new character of Q is less than a week old, and already he's recycling stuff from previous characters.

Two Key Points To Take Away

My first point is that if you look at Q's work in isolation, it's total crap. The mainstream media coverage of Q that we saw today is terrible for a bunch of reasons, such as because it doesn't for a single second reflect on, say, the 45,000 sealed items in PACER. There's a very hot story here that they're not seeing. However, when a normie reads Q, he quickly realizes that it's a scam, because it actually is a scam. People who are redpilled are much more vulnerable to these tricks, because they come in with the expectation that they've been lied to about everything. Q manipulates their religious faith, their anti-Semitism, a whole range of preconceptions. He knows how to do this, he's been doing it since at least 2014 by my reckoning.

My second point is that if you look at the history, if you actually read what he wrote as HighLevelInsider and Senate Anon and WisconsinIsCorrupt, and if you go through my investigative series, you can see that it's always the same crap. The same crap from the same guy.

It's very late, and I need to get some sleep. I'll tackle more of the list tomorrow.

I can understand why you guys are begining to get a bit nervous.

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It does make me chortle that the PedoLeft which is dismissing Q as a 'conspiracy theory' are the same child raping lunatics who believe that Russian hackers in conjunction with Nintendo and Macedonian fake news factories hacked our democracy!

Lets not forget about this Q faggots very first post, now.

I'll give you one name: John Titor

Questions for OP:

If you had to guess, who do you think Qanon is?

Do you have a TL;DR of all the claims Qanon has made? I would like to read them.

I don't give a fuck what it is. I don't want it all the fuck over voat. If I want that, I'll sub to those subs and go to the site. Keep it in the Q subs where it belongs.

I'll believe it when one single big name enemy of the American people is imprisoned or executed for treason.

Maybe you could add this to your post. Q proofs have been being collected and a website made...

Qproofs

"Order of Quetzalcoatl"

Look up Q yourself. It's part of their game.

I’m glad you posted this. After you destroyed the theory that @CheeseboogersGhost tried to use, he deleted his post. This needs to be out there!

Okay, let's do this. I'll have to break it into chunks as there is so much to cover.

If anyone needs to read Q in the original: https://qanonposts.com/

My Position Hasn't Changed Since Q Started

First, let me just remind you of this post that I made back in November. You posted a reply to it at the time, but as it was long and contained a lot of links, you might not have read all of it.

It lays out my assessment of Q at that point, which was that Q was just a continuation of all the other phony insider personas that he had been running for months previously (HighLevelInsider, WisconsinIsCorrupt, Senate Anon, and so on). Nothing I have seen in the ensuing seven months has changed my mind about that (although I do have some further thoughts about his motive which I will share later).

The Highly Suspicious Timing

Next, I want you to confirm the timing of a couple of things. I started my investigative series on October 24th, when I called out HighLevelInsider as a disinfo shill working for David Brock. I posted follow-ups on the 25th and 26th, giving more details about how he is connected to David Brock and how he misdirects people.

Then on the 27th, I humiliated HLI by proving that he was using ababcd to shill for his other big persona, Senate Anon. This is important, so please read that submission as well. I linked HLI to Senate Anon, and linked both of them to ababcd. I showed that their main method of shilling was by misrepresenting existing information developed by Voaters or /b/tards as if it was "insider" info that came from them. This was a very bad moment for HLI/Senate Anon. It was 2:46 pm Voat time, which is 10:46 am EST, on the 27th. At the end I promised "much more information" in future submissions.

There were 137 responses to that day's submission. Lots of traffic, thousands of people viewing it. The responses to and from WisconsinIsCorrupt were especially important because HLI and Senate Anon never showed up to defend themselves, and I had denounced WIC as another of his personas. Early in the morning on the 28th, it was becoming clear that I was getting more support than WIC was.

The very first post by Q appeared on 4chan at 2:33 pm EST on the afternoon of the 28th, saying Hillary Clinton was about to be arrested. Two more appeared that evening, adding that she might flee, that there would be massive riots and martial law, and that the National Guard was being activated, plus a bunch of vague hints that can be explained as part of his "cold reading" method. None of his specific claims were true. But they were unusually direct and clear by the later standards of Q, and had the useful effect of diverting attention away from Voat and anything I might be saying there. Later the excuse was devised that sometimes Q "posts disinformation," which conveniently explains all the countless times that he posted lies and garbage. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

My next submission was the following day, the 29th, at 7:30 am EST. Again, 122 comments and even more traffic than to the previous one. Q stepped up the pace with eleven posts to 4chan (two just after midnight), but again, it was all either leading questions, or stuff that was already publicly known. He mentioned Pelosi's net worth, her memory problems, Obama having a fake email address to correspond with Hillary on her server, all stuff that was already in the public domain. He noted that Mike Rogers had been allowed to stay on at NSA; this wouldn't raise any eyebrows because Rogers had made a very public demonstration of support for Trump, flying to New York to meet him right after the election. I thought at the time that Rogers was turning on the Deep State, and so did lots of people, and so him staying made sense. But as it turned out, Rogers was NOT going to stay on at NSA much longer; he was replaced by Paul Nakasone in May 2018. Nobody has called Q on this. If it's disinformation, who did it disinform? It's not. It's him tossing out random crap that everyone knows as if it was top secret. Q even asked a few questions about Hillary, like how much of Haiti disaster relief money went to her, but here again, he wasn't betraying any secrets, just asking questions that had been out there for months or years.

He Was In Serious Trouble Once I Showed His Face

The exact sequence of events is especially important here, because my submission on the 30th at 6:45 pm EST linked to video of HLI/Senate Anon, in his YouTube persona of "Tory Smith". I outed the guy.

Okay. Now if I was mistaken about "Tory Smith," then presumably HLI/Senate Anon wouldn't have cared. He'd have relaxed a bit once I got something wrong. But I think he cared a great deal, because he went back to 4chan and starting at 11:00 pm on the 31st he promised that Podesta would be indicted Nov 3rd, and Huma on Nov 6th. Again, totally wrong, but what is particularly interesting about that is that he had implied just a few posts previously that Huma was cooperating. "Husband in jail. What would you do?"

He also returned to an esoteric theme that he had spent a lot of time on as HighLevelInsider, talking for the first time about Satan and evil and the "four families" that rule everything. He has gone back to that a lot. And he threw in some technobabble about how shills were using a "5 prong pre packaged injection" of sliding posts. This is a particularly interesting claim, because you can Google that string of words and discover that it has never appeared anywhere except in his 4chan post. There are 70 hits and every last one is just another copy of him saying it.

As I have said from the beginning, this performance did not fool me even slightly. I have been reading this guy's crap for the past year and a half. He just doesn't have that much imagination, and he hasn't been given a lot of resources beyond his imagination. He was firing shotgun blasts of old stuff from previous characters he had played, just to see what got attention, and then playing up to that.

From that point on, he played the Q character every day, multiple posts per day. After a few weeks, he gave up on his last remaining "insider" persona on Voat, WisconsinIsCorrupt. He was committed to Q, and has not been able to "dismount the tiger" since, because at all costs he has had to keep diverting attention away from my investigative series.

Frankly, I find it goddamned amazing how this story has unfolded. Today's barrage of mainstream media coverage of Q is surreal to me. It is hard to believe that so much could happen as a result of me and my little investigative project. However, that was my only possible conclusion last November and I see no reason to alter it now. I will start going through all the phony "proofs" in my next post.

I don't doubt that Q is real, I just doubt that it's for the greater good. A lot of it seems like limited disclosure to reset the power pieces on the chess board for (((their))) benefit. Trump is the central figure in all of this, not Q. Q is just the narrator. Here's something similar I've posted before and people just ignore it.

A lot of people here who follow the Q movement believe that the Jews will get theirs at the end - not just specific Jews, but Israel and their leaders along with their world wide web of paid agents and the network of everything else tied to their disgusting ways. A lot of those people believe that by naming specific Jews, that Q has "named the jew". That's not really naming the jew per-say, as there's some refusal to come right out and say, "Jews are bad". Naming specific people doesn't necessarily mean you dislike their race. At some point you can't tiptoe around the issue anymore. The overton window doesn't shift if people don't start trying to shift it.

They also believe that the President is playing a large part in this whole Q thing, and that's going to be focal to my point. If Trump is focal, and Jews are bad, why is his lineage going to be Jewish? I can ignore him surrounding himself with Jews, or even buy into the "keep your enemies closer" bit. Many of the big players are Jewish. Sometimes you have to hang out with the den of evil to take it down from within and that's how the game has been setup.

However to marry the majority of your family off to the Jews for the greater good, I just don't buy it. If the Jews really come tumbling down like everyone hopes, that takes down his adults sons (maybe not Donald Jr now that he's divorced) and his favorite daughter - it takes down his grand children. That is one tough pill thing to believe. If his family isn't going to fall around this, then it looks like another game of Jews out jewing other Jews to get into power, i.e. left wing Jews vs right wing Jews and at the end, we're still stuck with Jews. It's a lose-lose situation.

If you do believe he'll throw his family to the wolves for the greater good, wouldn't that be something? What he would be doing is throwing everything on Baron to continue on the lineage and we haven't seen anything that would indicate that's what he's doing.

Q gets people engaged but he's not God. If you caution friends and family about some short forewarning of a immediately impending danger that Q has forewarned about, you're likely to be to be embarrassed when absolutely nothing happens. Was there really an unrealized but legitimate risk behind the scenes? Was the risk likely enough to warrant the precaution? It's hard to say without insider info, but for those of us that don't want egg on our face, it perhaps best not to share his predictions because he doesn't have a crystal ball. People say that Q makes people complacent by telling them to trust that everything is fine, but people who follow Q are much more engaged than they likely would be without Q, so as I see it, so long as Q points them in directions that motivate people to educate themselves about current affairs beyond the scope of what gets emphasized by the main stream media, I see it as a positive effort regardless of the origin of Q. I suspect that Trump is aware of and values Q regardless of its origin, and to me it seems plausible that Trump set it up, not as some top secret military project, but rather simply as a fun game to educate and train his constituency to be more useful, by training them to further educate and empower themselves. If every single American was extremely engaged with every aspect of current events, many problems could be solved very quickly, but unfortunately people have lives and current events are often quite dry and uninteresting. Q very well may essentially just be a creative public service announcement education program.

Interesting note being that some of the Q is a larp camp are known shills around here.

(((Are We Sure))) and resident kebob goat fucker donkeyhote (yes, he's actually a muslim).

Collaborting with the Q community has actually given us some pretty dam good leads as of late.

Cemex, NXIVM.

A list of my threads that came about as a result of said collaboration.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2632757 Part three of my investigation into Heather O'Rourke (link in thread) came from intel received from them.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2592596 This new evidence regarding instagram came from an intelligence sharing op that paid off BIG time.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2543523 The investigation into the Bronfman crime family. Related to NXIVM.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2441514 The horrific pedo cesspool in bing. Came from another intel sharing op.

I think a PR company working for Trump is behind Q. The alternative is someone in the administration that uses his insider information to make the posts. It would be nice to have some information, if the FBI/CIA/NSA has a file on Q. If its an official PR campaign then they are probably informed. Can a citizen in the US get information about this with those FOIA requests ?

The Media Establishment sure are in a frenzy over a mere LARP. The Media Establishment use words like 'deranged' 'crazy' 'dangerous' 'looney' 'dark' etc all to discredit a LARP? Their attack alone should get people wondering, if they knew how the Media Establishment works that is. Like another poster rightly says, why are people so scared and angry if it is just a LARP? What harm is the supposed LARP doing? Other than opening some people's eyes to the way the Media Establishment and global corrupt politics and institutions work. I've had personal attacks on Twitter from people jumping in on my tweets and expressing such anger (=fear) about QAnon and it can only leave me thinking the Media Establishment branwashing propaganda is working on them for now. Fear of the Other. People herd together and are scared to step outside the herd to join what the Media Establishment portrays as the Other - those crazies, looneys, deranged, dark folk who are believers of the most dangerous conspiracy since the dawn of the internet...apparantly.

Been following Q from the beginning. I am a believer, although I will never dig my heels into anything 100%. You should always be open to being wrong, and looking at other info presented. Plus things get infiltrated, so you need to be on the look out for that happening.

One thing I have noticed is some of the ones that are so against Q, seem to have such a negative world view, and personally attack anyone who brings Q up. Why would they change my mind by being that way? I believe in collective consciousness and negative thinking is just the state of mind that they want us in. Anger, fear, hopelessness, fighting, division etc. They gain power and feed off that energy.

Whether you believe in Q or not, it is a great movement, so many people are waking up, questioning, learning etc. Isn't that the outcome that we have been wanting? Some have been complaining for years that more people needed to know the truth regarding 9-11, child trafficking, deep state, the federal reserve, mind control, the media and on and on and on. Guess what, that is happening, so many more now are looking into things they dismissed as conspiracy theories before, we may have a chance to free ourselves from the Orwellian nightmare. Q's message, even though he leads them down dark paths of information, is somehow also filled with unity, positivity, love, laughter, hope and prayer. I like that approach.

On the fence like mustard, but has anything happened? Legit question, I have no idea.

I want to believe...

Only thing I can add here is something I learned nearly a year ago now, I baked early on 4chan days. The thing has been riddled with spooks since day 1. But not strictly d&c spooks, spooks were actually running the bakes. I got mixed up with a bad crowd who were extremely well organised and operated with impunity on 4chan.

If you recall there were many many extreme bot attacks reposting old comments and derailing the bakes, it was the same guys operating the bots as were running the bakes, I was directed to a website for instructions on using an IRC platform and I did a bit of poking around on the site and found some twitter accounts linked to it, and sure as shit the twitter accounts were bots reposting the same spam comments as the 'attackers' on the 4chan threads.

The information that Q puts out is real, I remain very current with the situation, but I am not sure that any of us strictly understand the motivations behind this psyop fully.

Reminder: PamphletAnon deleted a Q thread and then lied about it, I have proof confirmed by BO, he is cancer.

You're not going to be convinced, cause q is real, its a psyop of some sort, but what is wrong with encouraging people to find the truth?

From my experiences, it's the reactions of "them" that are suspiscious. As in Streisand Effect related suspiscious.

If Q is a larp, when why is the MSM having the mother of all chimp outs within the past few days? This chimp out is on par to the one that happened when pizzagate first showed up.

If Q is a larp, then why within 48 of the Q movement becoming mainstream did "they" attempt (failed) a false flag against them last night around 7 PM PST?

If Q is a larp, explain the escalation of shill visciousness within the past week. (the tactics have escalates into full blown vomit inducing grade vile, alongside the wave of "evidence planting" false flag tactics).

4pol thread on Trump being controlled opposition

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/120504207

Notable links:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/jared-trump-trump-campaign

https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2017/01/31/george-soros-backed-jared-kushner-venture-cadre-250-million/

This thread is like kryptonite for @CheeseboogersGhost and @Tallest_Skil

"Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him." - Albert Pike, 33rd degree Freemason

This video sums it up nicely:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=RNSVrrakF6A

distracted from big pizzagate developments

constant misdirection

Also, Q IS REAL. I don't doubt that. But he and POTUS are a joint psyop to misdirect the redpilled into supporting neoconservatism

Proof that Q is bullshit 1) Thinks Robert Mueller is secretly pro-Trump 2) thinks Trey Gowdy isn't controlled opposition 3) supports regime change in Iran.

There should be no doubt whatsoever by this time that Q is legit.

Almost definitely a close associate in Trump's circle (the reflection of the Jefferson portrait and the underside of the table lamp from the Oval office showing on the pen in one of the Q posts shatter any uncertainty).

The proofs are too numerous to even bother mentioning here. One reason for the cryptic nature of the communication is the illegally of disclosing classified material. NSA is the source of this data, most probably in collusion with DIA and/or other intelligence components from the military. Successful prosecution ( now OVER 45,000 sealed indictments) warrant discretion regarding disserminating information. Finally, "it" is working in the sense that tens of millions of people are starting to recognize the vast scale of deception and corruption that has existed on a global scale for some time.

THAT fact can NOT simply be "told" to the public and expected to be embraced as part of a new reality.

Absolutely brilliant plan and - so far - outstanding implementation of same.

100% legit.

QAnon is the triphandle on /pol/ right? Thats about all I know about the subject. Without having read the claims I can't really comment on them. I don't read /pol/.

Think you're hot shit, dont'cha?

Keep it up, I'll larp your Q!

I've been on board with Q for sure about three months. Before that I was still considering all things.

Whether or not Trump is an Israel supporter in the wrong way matters not at all. The opening of eyes and drastic increase of John Q public's interest in the current events are invaluable. We needed this in the worst way. It's happening drastically faster than depending on the old red pill way.

And this is part of the problem I have with Q. I am not trusting SHIT until I get results. I am not dropping my guard for a second, until I get results. I am going to keep looking deep into shit until I fucking see results.

It's never been about necessarily WHO he is, but rather WHY he is. There's no doubt that Q has done a good job at dropping little intel breadcrumbs to prove his (or their, but I'll call it a he for now) legitimacy as an insider. HOWEVER...

...And this is is the fucking important thing, okay? There is no way to guess his intentions. You don't know if Q is a good actor simply by virtue of knowing a few newsbits in advance and delivering them to 4chan with some lame-o Halo 3 ARG crypric metaphoria. There is no way to determine whether or not this is some CIAnigger psyop campaign to rope some /pol/lacks into the idea that everything is being taken care of and to relax with the looking into things goy and don't forget to vote for Trump in 2020, while nothing of true importance actually moves forward. You don't know if Q is controlled opposition. For all you know, you may be eating right out of the palm of "his" hand.

Take absolutely everything this guy says with a healthy dose of skepticism, not only for the content, but of his intentions. There are some good people in this world, but you have NO FUCKING CLUE whether or not this guy is a Three Letter Acronym nigger.

Thanks for presenting your opinion.

My response:

that puts them in handcuffs.

What happens when the police department is corrupt and won't arrest a mayor that has done something illegal?

As for the rest of your comment, it's as if you need Q to be a god and have the power to make everything exactly how you want it with a snap of his fingers before you think he's anything to write home about. As if the cloak-and-dagger takedown of a clandestine intelligence bureau that operates at the behest of the richest people on the planet is a simple "point and arrest to win" type scenario.

And nothing personal, but this is worth pointing out. You're the first to even begin to respond in the negative on Q, and your comment isn't all that negative. It looks just a little bit like a less-valuable alt account being used to judge the response of the users here to a little nudge in the direction of Q being a LARP. I could be wrong, but if you know how shill outfits operate, I'm sure you won't blame me for covering my bases.

http://archive.is/km7nD

https://pastebin.com/dZbP9hCt

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Conspiracy_Nerds___Weird_Dollar_Bills_Appearing/5-1906671/&page=1

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Saudi-Arabian-Purge-Happening-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Q-Anon-links-in-OP-/5-2048525/?page=1387

I’m personally on the fence. I have been posting pro Q content though. I also get attacked in the greatawakening because of my association with SBBH. So officially my stance is not against Q but asshole maniacs like the jerk off who deletes comments.

Your comment /v/QProofs/2656435/13445660 has been deleted by: @ClickClick on: 8/2/2018 1:22:24 PM

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Oh my! So envelopes have copied the G mail logo.

My comment was spot on. It’s an envelope not a Gmail logo. Also proved that sub is an official circle jerk echo chamber.

The post that got hated on was basically calling out the maniacs being used while they don’t know it. This is a possibility and probably why anti-Q stances have started. If you want a successful and supported movement you need to accept those like me who want to believe but still question things. This means that getting attacked, like any human response when you are pissed off, will end up calling Q a larp.

So now you are challenged to reign in the assholes and faggets. Get them to accept a more moderate view for the better of the community. I already know how this will go and you are being challenged unfairly. ;-) too bad but it’s the for the better.

Q is either an insider or somebody who knows a hell of a lot which makes him being a genuine larp hard to defend. A good example was that guy who imitated Steve Jobs and called everybody retards - talk about larp extreme skills! It had a lot of people fooled in the beginning but after a while everybody realized it was a parody. So, the proof is more about which is Q? An insider or somebody with awesome access to informatio. The later would technically be a larp but not completely. The challenge is to prove that he is a insider as in a member of his cabinet/surrounding support team. Remember an insider could also be leaking information to the outsider and thus having awesome access to information.

A last thing to consider: the NWO is retooled their strategy. The economic collapse will not happen. Because unlike Detroit which got paid off by the government Trump will likely let corporations fuck themselves. So expect a boom period until 2024 with the end of the Trump Presidency. The market will go to 30k and possibly break 40k. NWO is fueling this along with Trump’s efforts. The NWO ain’t stupid. The next President 2024-2028 is a question mark. More than likely a Trump soon off so the economy will slow but not crash. 2028 is the danger period. The NwO will have had 4 years to regain some control and more than likely enough to put that Puerto Rican chick into the Oval Office. If a democrat or democrat puppet like Bush 2 then expect the economy to tank and kill the next Republican Presidental chance. Invest now! Bitcoin and such will also keep rocketing like never seen before. But before 2024 pull out your investments and cash out happy. You might still be ok until inauguration but 4-5 months into that presidency and you will suffer losses.

The only way I can see the NWO getting wiped out is massive world wide revolt and I don’t see that. The swamp will remain but in retreat mode until the Trump elite have disappeared and more left leaning refugee lovers gain power again.

Trump bought us time. He prevented massive wars and death of many societies under Killary’s watch.

Q needs to hit a few obvious home runs before Trump announces XYZ is going to jail or we will see people who point out October never saw Killarney in jail arguements grow.

The sheeple need wins not esoteric riddles and trivia challenges.

surely some fascinating discussion will occur. no? only a few silent downvotes? truly these are sad times.

whether or not you believe Q is working with Trump, or whether you think he is but its a ruse to pretend to drain the swamp while planning to betray us, these are facts:

1) Q's drops provide insightful and genuine intelligence that would win considerable respect if posted by any regular old anon who was not alleging to be a Trump insider. That intelligence deserves its own consideration irrespective of the legitimacy of the insider claim

2) he has never once acted in Bad Faith - told Americans to break the law, engage in vigilantism, etc, etc. He has called for Unity among Americans, and that's a fuck load of what's needed at this fractious moment in history.

I wonder if the backpeddler will come here and try to debunk Q again?

I will enjoy watching this show. Truly. What do you wanna bet all you get is crickets?

I don't know what I think of the reality of Q, but I don't think it's even relevant in the big scheme of things All Q does is points people in directions and asks them to figure things out for themselves.

I'm not even Amercian but I keep up with Q like housewives watch soap opera's it's a big saga that I can sit back and watch. If it is a LARP it's benign and it's just asking people to learn things about stuff, if it's not a LARP it could be one of the most important movements in modern history. Either way what do you have to lose about at least being open to it?

@think- @Hey_Sunshine @zyklon_b @Enigmatic_Continuum

Please see OP.

@MadWorld @WhiteRonin @Empress @Diogenes_The_Cynic @gabara

Please see OP.

@Vindicator @dooob @NeoGoat @clamhurt_legbeard @Artofchoke

Please see OP.

@kevdude @srayzie @shizy @heygeorge @xenoPsychologist

See OP.