Dude. If you were deliberately trying to boost my credibility, and show just how desperate HLI is getting, you couldn't do anything better than this. Everyone on this forum understands that you don't Skype or have phone conversations with total frickin' strangers, and that it is very impolite even to ask. I don't care who you are, or who you claim to be. You could be Walter Cronkite or Mahatma Gandhi, you're still not getting my phone number.

As I told you in my message, you don't roleplay a normal person very well. You just go right to the creepy and inappropriate stuff.

There's a huge context for events in 2013 that I haven't written anything about as yet. These things take a lot of time to compose, and I've mostly had to stick with micro details so far. I'll take a brief stab here at setting that context.

I think that the biggest problem the pedosadists were facing in 2013 was that their machine was aging and falling apart. That's still their problem, only now made far worse by Trump. Partly this is because of the Clintons, partly it's just the passage of time.

When Bush Sr. rose to power, he did it over decades, with a lot of care and self-discipline. He was already rich, and had all the right connections. He put in his time as director of the CIA, and VP to Reagan. But to keep things stable from one election cycle to the next, he needed to partner with some Democrats. I guess because they were already working with the CIA in Mena, and he already knew they were pedosadists, he chose the Clintons. By comparison, though, they were strung-out hillbilly carpetbaggers with no contacts, no family wealth, and zero self-discipline. Bill was expelled from his Rhodes scholarship at Oxford for raping a girl. That set the pattern; they would just take stuff, and do stuff, and leave it to someone else to cover for them. Like pardoning Marc Rich, or Hillary taking $200,000 in furniture from the White House. Or firing William Sessions as director of the FBI, and killing Vince Foster the very next day.

Bush Jr. was nowhere near the equal of his father, but he had a bunch of old-guard guys in his administration who helped him keep everything more or less together for the crime syndicate. Now, clearly the plan was for Hillary to follow Bush Jr., but she was nowhere near the equal of Bill in politics. Riding a wave of mistrust, Obama grabbed the presidency. The result was 8 years of divided government like America had rarely seen before. Obama didn't even bother trying to line up Congressional support, because he wasn't going to get it. He just issued executive orders. He was trying to make peace with Iran, and the price of that would have been to let Assad stay, and to let the Shiites control the pipeline that would be built through Syria. But the compromise that was forced on Obama was that he had to take Hillary as Secretary of State for the first term. She ran around frantically making deals, selling uranium to Putin, selling foreign policy to the Saudis, ripping off Haiti, and so on, much as if she was president.

And of course, during this same period we had the 2008 financial crisis, and the Tea Party, and the collapse of the Democrats at the state level, and the Berniecrats. Both parties were in bad shape in terms of credibility or power. Both were facing internal revolt.

It's not clear to me whether Hillary intended to stay for Obama's second term, and then her health problems plus Benghazi forced her out, or if she always intended to leave after 2012, to prepare to run in 2016. Either way, the situation in February 2013, after her last day in office, was that the pedosadists were at their weakest and most vulnerable since about the mid-1970s. People all over the world, and in domestic politics, knew that the Bush-Clinton crime syndicate was running out of gas. For the first time in 32 years, they didn't have any key federal positions. Obama was corrupt, sure, but he wasn't running the global child-sex auction. He wasn't exposed in the same way as the Clintons. And who knew what would happen in 2016? Clearly, Chelsea or Jeb weren't going to just walk in and carry on.

It was in this context that Snowden made his big 'reveal' in early June. I think there were a number of people who saw the global reaction to Snowden and said, 'Now or never,' and put together a plan to bring the machine down, as I described in my Day 8 post.

There are a lot of nuances to the Glenn Beck video that I haven't gotten to yet. They will be the subject of my next big submission. But just to jump ahead a bit and mention one: Pence and especially Ryan are Tea Party sympathizers. On the face of it, neither of them owe much if anything to the old GOP establishment -- not even the usual political debts of party fundraising. According to Wikipedia, Ryan has brought in less pork for his district than other Republicans, as a matter of Tea Party principle. Beck is likewise way closer to the Tea Party than to old-money Republicans, and of course all three owe nothing at all to the Democrats or the Clintons. We can be skeptical about this and say they're still crooks, all politicians are crooks, and we don't trust them, sure. But while bringing down the old order would wreck lots of people in the GOP, and would wreck lots of Democrats, it seems clear that it would only advance their careers, as well as those of other Tea Party newcomers. They would have been heroes to a lot of red-state voters.

I'm open to the argument that the Tea Party also auctions kids for ritual sacrifice. But someone has to provide some sort of actual evidence for that. It's kind of like the media saying that Trump voters are violent racist thugs, but somehow never having actual video of them beating black people. Instead all the video is of them waiting patiently in mile-long lineups, in the rain and cold, to cheer for Trump.

I'm not buying the line that WIC and his sockpuppets keep putting out, that everyone is automatically blackmailed. If you believe that, then you have the burden of explaining why the government keeps shutting down over budget gridlock, and why there even is a Tea Party, and why Bernie was allowed to run, and countless other questions. Their control has never been that good. For a long time it has been barely good enough, and now it isn't even barely good enough.

Okay, apparently we have to do this yet again. We'll start by linking to my previous rebuttal, which was addressed to you. I'm going to urge anyone who still needs convincing to read through not only my post, but all your comments, to confirm that you never answered any of my charges against WIC.

1. That he lied repeatedly, claiming for example that Ryan "paid his respects" to a mobster, except WIC offered no evidence that the man was a mobster, or that he came from a mob family, other than their having an Italian surname.

2. That he refused to supply actual evidence, saying that it came from "sources" and "witnesses" that had to be protected. He claimed to be an insider with access to secret FBI RICO investigations.

3. That he spread demoralizing and totally unsupported claims that "the swamp will never be drained," in the very same fashion as HighLevelInsider.

4. That he refused to explain why no other conspiracy site has ever said anything about Racine whatever.

5. That he occasionally jumps from merely being a special FBI insider to also claiming knowledge of the Singularity and the afterlife, and that nobody calls him on this credibility-shattering move, least of all you.

6. That he and you have both managed to totally avoid acknowledging the Milwaukee recount lead that I supplied.

You better be careful or you are going to piss people off and get a major dig going on this subject. You are lucky you have not triggred one already. You are fooling with a crowd of experts and they see what you are doing. If you get this hive stirred up they will turn Racine's business upside down and there will be very little left untouched.

Oh Lord. This is what you're going with? I already volunteered to support this effort, provided anyone ever bothers to make it. In my rebuttal I posted a list of 67 random "leads" that WIC posted over a four-day period. To WIC, supplying a lead consists of declaring, like a divine oracle, that "Kabbalah is involved," or "the Club of Rome is involved," without any specific allegations of wrongdoing. An investigation of that random pile of names isn't going to get very far, no matter how many people turn out. But I doubt many will. WIC's own defense by this point is numbingly repetitive, as this quote from the link above shows:

The RICO cases involved all of these people and many more. The entry point was based on extreme racial discrimination and segregation but that was only the tip of what was involved and it led to many foundations and secret societies including the Clinton Foundation.

I already posted the link to the original civil RICO case, showing that it involved a few tavern owners and was properly dismissed. WIC keeps asserting that he knows all about a secret criminal RICO case, including that Paul Ryan obstructed it. This is unresponsive. Saying "many secret societies were involved" is insultingly stupid at this point. WIC cannot just claim, "I know things that nobody else knows, accept them on my authority as the Truth or you will never be Saved."

Yes, thank you for pointing that out. One more creepy footnote to the story.

No, only certain financial strings. Podesta is the chief of staff for the Clinton machine -- the consigliere if you remember the Godfather movies. He's the guy ordering killings, setting up major blackmail or extortion, and so on. Podesta has a large money machine, the Center for American Progress, which is mostly funded by normie Democrats. He also has consulting contracts with the Saudis and the Russians, and a lot of other stuff.

Meanwhile Brock is in charge of social media strategy. He's their disinfo expert, their meme warrior. He has his separate money machine, again mostly funded by normies.

Sandler is important to both men, because as a wealthy pedosadist, he will pay for things that the gang needs to do that cannot easily be explained to the normies. When Brock developed the plan for covering up the Glenn Beck whistleblower incident, he needed Podesta to approve the plan, and to confirm to Sandler that he should pay for it.

However, both men are also greedy bastards who exploit their positions in the machine to get rich personally. So they aren't necessarily completely honest with Sandler about how they use the money that he gives them.

Hmm, according to @NeedleStack, you're a sockpuppet yourself.

If I understand your complaint here, you're saying that I'm correct about Herb Sandler, but I'm just not reporting anything original. It's nice of you to confirm it. But you're also saying that the people who originally posted this info were banned? So you won't be proving any of this. Hmmm.