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Mej777 ago

You wasted everyone’s time and lost all credibility by calling out sock puppets according to you.

The Herb Sandler story was outed in detail over 8 months ago. Those researchers were banned. Never trust you or read your info again. Sloppy Seconds when the risk is not so high....

SoberSecondThought ago

Hmm, according to @NeedleStack, you're a sockpuppet yourself.

If I understand your complaint here, you're saying that I'm correct about Herb Sandler, but I'm just not reporting anything original. It's nice of you to confirm it. But you're also saying that the people who originally posted this info were banned? So you won't be proving any of this. Hmmm.

Mej777 ago

Here you go on one of many on Herb Sandler from 7 months ago that lays out everyfact and more from some who gave up long ago.

His details and the researchers involved worked very hard. You and your shill bot armies can take a hike. Sloppy Seconds

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1738976

@ASolo @ESOTERICshade

SoberSecondThought ago

This is all very interesting stuff. I think @ASolo maybe uses bold a bit too often, and packs too many topics into a single submission. I would have left Chabad Lubavitch for a separate submission, and focused just on financials. But those are very minor criticisms. It's great research! Thank you @ASolo!

However, I think you're missing the point if you believe any of these four prior posts make my post unnecessary. In the first one, we do get a ton of information about the activities of the Sandler Foundation, such as their using ACORN to go after Wells Fargo, and that is awesome. But there is nothing in that one specifically about David Brock's illegal slush fund at Media Matters, or where it came from. Knowing that the Sandler Foundation donated to MM a decade ago does not help very much with that investigation. We need to look at his personal donations starting in 2014, which @ASolo (meaning no disrespect) did not do. We need to look at his interactions with David Brock and John Podesta just before those donations, and again @ASolo never investigated that. The second submission, mentioning Aaron Dover, is similar. It covers many of the same facts as the first, and it doesn't cover the key facts that I point to. It's sad that Aaron Dover died, but it isn't really relevant to what I'm doing in this project.

The other two posts you cite, by other people, are similar as well. Yes, they talk about Herb Sandler and his emails. I did say that those were infamous emails and that everyone has heard of them. But these posts don't make any connection between Sandler and an illegal MM slush fund, or between the slush fund and the current disinfo campaign that is going on right here at /v/pizzagate. (I see that the one from 9 months ago discussed whether Kathy Tate knew anything about the pedosadist stuff, and came to the same conclusion I have, that she was an innocent.)

The point of research is to make specific connections on specific topics. My topic is not ACORN or the crash of 2008, and it is not Chabad Lubavitch or Saturday Night Live skits. They're all really interesting and valid topics for investigation, they're just not what I am working on. If @ASolo feels that I have somehow misused his research, or claimed credit for it that I do not deserve, I'll certainly listen. But I suspect he's just going to nod and agree to the perfectly obvious fact that my submission uses different sources, and mentions specific donations and emails from Sandler that his submission does not (and vice versa). Plenty of room here for everyone to get credit. We're all working on different parts of a large puzzle.

ASolo ago

I don't want to get in between what Mej777 and you might have going on. I respect him/her and the research he/she contributes and really don't exactly know where she/he was coming from but do appreciate the reference, but you are right, your contribution is still in another area however similar the names are and any follow up investigation into the Sandler's is completely warranted and welcomed, and is only a continuation and evolution of all of this work. Mej777 meant well I'm sure.

I did enjoy this thread as well, any exposure of this sadistic clan is welcomed, these Sandler's, Sussmans and all these sneaky, underhanded old monied elite meddlers must be exposed.

Mej777 ago

Not trying to bring you in @ASolo there should be no middle but this guy spent the last week tearing down several researchers who have been here from the beginning. I have pointed out repeatedly his posts are regurgitated ideas he learned from others Work and gives no credit. He calls me a liar and prove it constantly which is a cointel tactic.

I responded this time because of all the work I know you did on this as well as the Aaron Dover part where you are among the few that paid attention to his death and sacrifice.

Mej777 ago

And here is an earlier one exposing this thread 10 months ago.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1515328

Mej777 ago

And another one 9 months ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1577235