Backstory:
I finally got sick of seeing anti-Q rhetoric being nothing but character attacks, goalpost-moving, and strawmen, so I finally asked someone against Q that I previously respected to defend his position. This is the abortion of a comment he provided, and I promptly destroyed it so badly that he backpedaled and unbelievably claimed it was the wrong video - after pointing me to exact times of what I should watch.
Worse, still, for the anti-Q argument, I provided to him a set of text/images that he could easily debunk if fake, and despite being raked through the coals until there was nothing left, he still hasn't even attempted to do so.
Challenge:
Present your case better than he did. Either defend your position with facts, evidence, and if a video, timestamps to the relevant parts, OR debunk these. Or even some small number of them. Even one is a better start than the aforementioned user had.
Anyone that has known me for any length of time on this site knows that I follow the evidence, and will flip on a dime if I find my position untenable. This is the place to cause that to happen.
TL;DR:
Either prove your position that Q is a LARP, or debunk these.
Promise:
If nobody manages to even cast a non-trivial amount of shade on Q, I will spend my time here demolishing everyone that dismissively mocks Q as a LARP.
If, however, you can convince me Q is a LARP, I will use your arguments to mock those that still believe in Q.
Good luck.
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MolochHunter ago
whether or not you believe Q is working with Trump, or whether you think he is but its a ruse to pretend to drain the swamp while planning to betray us, these are facts:
1) Q's drops provide insightful and genuine intelligence that would win considerable respect if posted by any regular old anon who was not alleging to be a Trump insider. That intelligence deserves its own consideration irrespective of the legitimacy of the insider claim
2) he has never once acted in Bad Faith - told Americans to break the law, engage in vigilantism, etc, etc. He has called for Unity among Americans, and that's a fuck load of what's needed at this fractious moment in history.
kneo24 ago
I just want to point out that the above poster is a Zionist and supports the browning of America. This zionist will constantly talk out both sides of their mouth.
Blacksmith21 ago
Don't forget to point out that @kneo24 is CBG.
Shizy ago
Either the same person or they just fag out together so much they sound alike.
kneo24 ago
Go ahead, you niggerfaggot, prove this.
Shizy ago
Why don't you take it to the cage fight and not shit talk @molochhunter here?
kneo24 ago
I didn't know shit talking was now reply to the user you're talking about, and saying true things about them. Do yo have any other phrases you'd like to redefine to fit a narrative?
Shizy ago
Not right now, thanks for asking!
MolochHunter ago
thanks but its ok, Shizy, I've told @kneo24 that I'm proud about the browning of America and thats why when i fuck his mother its up her ass hole
Shizy ago
No wonder he's not happy with you 😂
kneo24 ago
Do you support the browning of America? Do you support Israel? Your friend here does and it seems you're in defense of him. Do you share the same values as he does.
Shizy ago
So you believe the same exact way on everything as those that you are friends with? Interesting! That's not typically true of most people but for some reason you seem to think it is.
kneo24 ago
Again, you seem to be defending him based on the true accusations I made, which is why I'm questioning if you believe as he does. I don't defend my friends for indefensible things, like being a zionist, or supporting the browning of America. I hope you're aware that zionists seek to play both sides and aren't your allies in this, especially if "Israel is being saved or last."
Shizy ago
I simply told you to take it to cagefight if you wanted to fight with him. I'm not defending his personal beliefs, and I really don't even know what those are nor do I actually care. I care even less about your beliefs and wasting my time sharing mine with you. Go find someone else to fight with.
kneo24 ago
Pointing out the truth about someone is not fighting them.
You're also purposely dodging the questions and pretending to be ignorant of their meaning. I do not believe that you don't know that zionism is the defense is an ethnic Jewish state. I do not believe that you don't know that the browning of America means turning America into a non-white majority.
And yes, coming to their aide and having teenage chat sessions with them about my comments is defending their beliefs.
Shizy ago
I'm not purposely dodging shit! Of course I know what those things mean, I just don't think highly enough of you to engage with you. For some reason that seems to really bother you, but deal with it!
kneo24 ago
Now you've lied. Are you jewish by any chance?
Shizy ago
Now you're obsessively bugging me, you a nigger by any chance?
kneo24 ago
I'm not a nigger, and it's easy to see that by how I haven't chimped out, like OWI. See how easy it is to answer these simple questions?
Shizy ago
Well a white woman is telling you she's not interested in conversing with you but you persist and won't let it go. That's what niggers do.
kneo24 ago
If that was the case, you'd simply stop responding. You wouldn't have gone to such lengths to lie to me. This isn't person to person interaction. You could just easily walk away, leaving me to wonder what the real answers were. Instead, you'd rather keep evading the questions and coming up with bullshit responses, and now you're trying to play some sort of victim. Geeze, it's not like you haven't done that before.
Shizy ago
I haven't lied, so go fuck yourself for calling me a liar! Like I would care enough to lie 😂! Don't flatter yourself! Youre a part of cheeseboogers little fan club yet you really expect me to take you seriously and have an actual discussion about anything?!! It seems you use the same shitty tactics he does of twisting and taking things out of context. I have no time or use for those bullshit games. Im not playing victim. I just pointed out how niggers act. If you took that personally then that's your issue.
kneo24 ago
You did lie. You said you didn't know what "zionism" or the "browning of America" was, and when I told you what they were, you said you know what they were, and that you didn't want to engage in conversation with me.
If I'm taking things out of context, you could have used any opportunity to clear it up and work on writing more clearly so that isn't a problem.
See, that's another lie. Multiple of them, in fact. You keep telling me you wish to not converse, but you keep responding, And now you're pretending you're some sort of victim because I won't leave you alone, despite you constantly responding to what I'm writing.
Afterall, this is a discussion forum. I'm not going out of my way to engage with you, you inserted yourself into a conversation thread I was a part of, for the sole purpose of defending a zionist. Again, you could have just simply not responded to anything I have written, but you continue to do so.
Shizy ago
I never said I didn't know what Zionism or browning of America is 😂! ! Why do you lie?? What I said was I don't know about Molechhunters beliefs, nor do I particularly care! You on the other hand have some weird fixation on what I believe. Let it go dude! I'm not sharing shit with you! And now that you have kept pushing It and turned to outright lying, I'm blocking you. I don't have time for more booger wannabes.
kneo24 ago
Well, sure, you know what his beliefs are. It was part of the conversation. See, another lie. And you continue to respond despite not wanting my attention. Blocking me doesn't change the facts.
I was hoping that the long time between responses was an indication that you wisened up and decided to not respond.
Shizy ago
See, you're using your bullshit twisting tactics like I already called you on! I made the cage fight comment before molech said anything about browning of America, so what now? You've shown yourself to be a liar, and a bad one at that. And I will take as long as I want to respond to you 😂! I'm actually here trying to read threads, not hanging on your every word! Once again, that's a pretty niggardly mindset you have!
kneo24 ago
You didn't. Moloch made that comment days ago. You made your cage match comment today, and then you scurried off to defend him, which indicates your original intentions were to defend him from the start, instead of being neutral.
On that note, I don't care how long it takes for your responses. I was pointing out that I thought a delayed response was you finally taking the idea of not responding to me at all, indicating you actually got the point.
It's clear, however, that you lack reading comprehension abilities.
On that note, if you don't want me to respond to you, why do you keep engaging in this banter with me? Was that another one of your lies?
Shizy ago
You mean comments that you linked to? I didn't click your links. I don't care enough to! To use the same words you used to crensch about cheesebooger, I think molechs heart is in the right place regarding pizzagate, so I don't really care about the other shit! Not sure why you care so much but maybe it has something to do with the twisted mindset that spams telling people they should kill themselves because they don't think like you do! And real cute with the reading comprehension comment from the person who couldn't understand what I was saying about knowing molechs beliefs! What a laugh!
notenoughstuff ago
kneo 24 is a Jew. He/she has proven as much themselves. I get the impression that kneo is very focused on becoming controlled opposition here on Voat - he is definitely very active. And there are a large number of shills and Jews here on Voat, though that is generally unavoidable. I do wonder about the system and whether it has some of the same vulnerabilities as reddit seems to have. While downvoting can help keep spammers out, it can also help censor others. But Voat does have differences, and it might be possible for it to turn out well in the long run. I guess we will see.
Shizy ago
I think you are right on about this. I got tired of his nonsense and just blocked him.
kneo24 ago
The difference here is that I don't think either of them are zionists. If I believe either of them were, I would be taking sides.
Not caring about the browning of America, or the fact that zionists have infiltrated the movement you support, really says a lot about your moral character.
Of course a zionist defender would play dumb here.
I rather enjoy demoralizing jewish shills.
You lie so often, it's hard to discern what the truth is from you, and what you really mean. You can't fault someone for not being able to navigate the mess of lies you leave behind you.
On that note I'll ask again. If you don't want me to engage in this type of discourse with you, why do you keep responding? Are you a zionist? Do you support the browning of the U.S.? Are you jewish?
MolochHunter ago
he's got some bug up his ass because while im all for building the wall, I stop short at gas chambers
kneo24 ago
You can make all the jokes you want, but those are your words as you wrote them. You're a zionist and support the browning of America. You have nothing left.
heygeorge ago
Why are you attacking them instead of adding to the discussion? IMHO, molochhunter sounds like a PG/Q normie who’s maybe not been as long a fixture on Voat as you.
dooob ago
Really interesting, isnt it. I see that pattern more often that not.
kneo24 ago
Alright dooob, how is my attack incorrect? You are saying they aren't a zionist? That they didn't support the browning of America?
dooob ago
My brain automatically filters JIDY and similiar accusations as fake. Those two comments are really weird indeed, maybe Moloch's whole history should be reviewed.
heygeorge ago
It turns out he did contribute. Not for nothing, dooob, but I know that sometimes you see things that just aren’t there. But I’m watching now.
kneo24 ago
I did add to the discussion.
The Zionist has been on Voat as long as I have if we go by account dates. 1.6 years versus 1.6 years.
heygeorge ago
Nice! I suppose what I’m saying is that many of the PGer’s just stay in that pen. I may have been a bit cranky this morning and I tire of all the accusations spit around here. I was mistaken.