Suspicious behavior from u/NOMOCHOMO, u/carmencita & MANY others... (Lampshadematerial)

submitted ago by argosciv

Section 1

u/NOMOCHOMO (inc. u/Piscina) to @shewhomustbeobeyed:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15691668/5/ | https://archive.is/Sa12R |

  • NOMOCHOMO comment timestamp: 12/21/2018 7:05:35 AM UTC
  • shewhomustbeobeyed comment timestamp: 12/20/2018 4:30:05 PM UTC

NOMOCHOMO selectively chose to reply to shewhomustbeobeyed, whose comment was made 14 hours, 35 minutes and 30 seconds prior.

Anon to v/QRV - "Mods Vindicator and Srayzie on the Pizzagate sub defending satanist pedophile Michael Aquino. Attacking another Pizzagate Mod think- and she resigns in protest.":

https://voat.co/v/QRV/2926720/ | https://archive.is/bfFjH

  • Posting time: 23 hours ago on 12/21/2018 5:47:59 AM UTC
  • Last edit time: 23 hours ago on 12/21/2018 5:57:22 AM UTC

The above v/QRV submission was made 1 hour, 17 minutes and 36 seconds before NOMOCHOMO selectively commented in reply to shewhomustbeobeyed.

The following 2 comments from NOMOCHOMO are those with timestamps closest to the comment from shewhomustbeobeyed, which NOMOCHOMO selectively replied to:

Before:

After:

In the comment which was after shewhomustbeobeyed's comment, we see NOMOCHOMO link to the following thread by u/Stosh21:

In their comment, NOMOCHOMO pings u/StevenDKelley, who only ever made 1 comment(seen in the above thread) and has since been inactive for nearly 2 years.

StevenDKelley's comment, which was made over a month after the submission was posted(well after said submission would have dropped from the front page of v/pizzagate):

Looking back at the main post, at the bottom we see this said by Stosh21:

btw, My name is Steven D Kelley, google me if you want more.

Looking back at the rest of the comments in this submission, who else do we see?

u/SaneGoatiSwear:

To be continued...

Section 2

Days later, after the selective reply to u/shewhomustbeobeyed, we see u/NOMOCHOMO, u/carmencita, u/3141592653 & u/maurice working together to push a bullshit narrative that South Park is "normalizing" pedophilia -- when it is perfectly obvious to anyone remotely familiar with South Park, that their goal is absolutely not to "normalize" such things:

Indeed, notice how the four of them don't want to touch on the real background story of "B. Super Adventure Club", the title of that episode being "The Return of Chef"?

See here for said background story, which involves the suspicious death of Isaac Hayes, his connection to Scientology & his reaction to a prior episode(titled "Trapped in the Closet") which explained that Scientology is a global scam worth millions:

Root of Corruption - Part 18: Bridge the gap (comment 1/4)

Here's a sidenote regarding u/3141592653:

Strongly reminds me of the time that u/carmencita tried to prop up blatant disinfo(which I debunked using a simple reverse-image search) using the usual heart-string-pulling tactic, posted by u/dtneslo(who did see that it was likely disinfo):

Looking back at the above thread made me laugh, a lot, because look at who/what can be seen:

That's a lot of suspicious behavior, but there's more...

First, notice that even u/Piscina showed up, after my debunk, acting oblivious & trying to keep the narrative alive:

Now, let's get back to the subject of ol' George Webb, shall we?

Just before my debunk(and after u/carmencita pinged u/fogdryer, u/Cc1914 & others), u/EffYouJohnPodesta showed up, pulling heart-strings and neglecting to address the article's disinfo:

Next, she jumped straight on u/dtneslo's comment which mentions distrust of George Webb - where she uses aggressive strawman tactics to try to smear/discredit:

Now take a look at the replies to the above:

Here is an archived link to the twitter comment: https://archive.is/TJaK6

If the screenshots are legit, Jenny(JEM) was sick of Webb before she died.

Final note:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13583555/ | https://archive.is/DAvMw (u/carmencita, in a rare show, makes note of Turkey being involved in nefarious PG-related crimes, but insists on mixing it with other elements and Israel - nobody follows up. When asked for more, u/carmencita advertises themselves, u/new4now and u/fogdryer, without providing a direct link.)

To be continued...

auralsects ago

suck my cock.

srayzie ago

I’ll answer for my alt...

You wish 🖕🏻

Gothamgirl ago

Holy shit you are a never ending troublemaker, you should invest this time looking for pedos, or the cabal, not the individuals trying to change and stop it.

argosciv ago

Just an example showing that I'm not the one downvoting here and even upvoted 3141592653's comment:

https://files.catbox.moe/jn4bf4.jpg

"Can't see username logged in, must be fake!"

^ Tell yourself whatever you want.

cc: @Vindicator @Crensch @srayzie @kevdude @Shizy

NOMOCHOMO ago

Hahahaha Remove the Log from your eye:

"Can't see username logged in, must be fake!"

^ Tell yourself whatever you want.

Edit (2 hours later)

I win because I clipped out the context

Exactly. You keep accusing me of what you're guilty of

Argosciv lampshades himself in a single comment.

You are so dumb

argosciv ago

Did I clip out context? No, I merely gave you shit for trying to claim some sort of victory and for yourself, clipping context in order to kick up a stink about being ignored.

Anyone interested will be able to see exactly what you said and exactly what I said. They'll also notice that you're still trying to claim victory over, well, being ignored*. Except, your comment wasn't the only one I felt no need to respond to. SWMBO asked to stop being pinged - yet you felt compelled to ask for her thoughts and see if you can get her to engage you in private message... you also feel compelled to try to weaponize the past(an obsolete narrative) in an attempt to manipulate think- and @srayzie... you know what that follows, right?

ES attempting to manipulate/groom female users. You really, really seem to fixate on them, just like he does.

(I'm not pinging think-, because she also asked me to leave her alone. I have chosen to respect that and have only responded to her here twice here, when appropriate. I've also ignored a couple of her comments to me, not because they're invalid, but because there's no sense in making her angry.)

* That's the funny part, your emotional reaction to being ignored and the attempt to /thread.

You're gonna be even more pissed off when you realize that "To be continued" is still very much active.

"You are so dumb, I win because I said so and because I said you're dumb!"

^ Again, obviously just giving you shit with an interpretation of your behavior - you like to think it's okay for you to interpret mine, so, fair's fair, right?

Please, another "I win" comment, it's totally not showing how badly you want this to be over.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Did I clip out context?

Yes you did. You claim a screenshot shows you upvoting a submission, but your login name isn't visible. Your screenshot is missing very pertinent context related to your claim that you argosciv are upvoting.

If you're gonna accuse me of being an alt, you should care about your own optics.

you also feel compelled to try to weaponize the past(an obsolete narrative)

The "obsolete narrative" (I assume you mean the Getty bunker?) isn't my concern, nor am I "pushing it". My concern is your intentional misquoting of @stosh21

Looking back at the main post, at the bottom we see this said by Stosh21:

btw, My name is Steven D Kelley, google me if you want more.

However, If you read stosh21's comments, they clearly state they are not stevendkelley and that quotation is from kelley's original Facebook post.

You are intentionally are confusing who is who, and thereby label my pinging of @stevendkelley as "suspicious". Considering you've edited so many of your comments for "clarity" I don't understand why you aren't fixing this glaring mistake in the body of your post.

You've repeatedly stated I've "clipped context". Please explain exactly what you mean. What relevant context have I left out? You just repeat your claim without explaining it.

ES attempting to manipulate/groom female users. You really, really seem to fixate on them, just like he does.

Dude. I dont believe anybody here is what they say they are. Even if you have a photo linked/Twitter account. Just because you have a gendered username doesn't mean anything on the internet. Especially on a forum where we're researching things people get killed over.

To say I "fixate" on female users, you'd have to 1- count all of my interactions, 2- quantify them between male/female (not cherry pick specific interactions/say they represent a trend). 3- You'd have to prove each user is indeed Male or Female 4 - Somehow prove that commenting/responding = fixating (which is a logical leap 5 - prove that supposed fixation is "manipulative/grooming" (an armchair psychological leap) 6 - prove my gender because if I am female, it wouldnt be "fixation"

And then you have to rectify such claims with your other claims that many of these accounts are my alts. Am I therefore grooming myself?

You are spinning in circles dude. Do whatever you want. But you are only looking more and more ridiculous.

I kinda think I've already established my credibility. And if downvoats are any sign not very many people find your posts useful (though I suppose you'll just say those are alts/manipulated people hating on you)

P.S.

(I'm not pinging think-, because she also asked me to leave her alone. I have chosen to respect that and have only responded to her twice here, when appropriate. I've also ignored a couple of her comments to me, not because they're invalid, but because there's no sense in making her angry.)

Bullshit. She asked you a pointed QUESTION about why part of your post was relevant to your claims.

You didnt answer it. Not a comment, a question. That doesn't seem "respectful" to me.

argosciv ago

Oh god lol.

You have no idea just how badly(much) you proved my point about your behavior here.

You claim a screenshot shows you upvoting a submission, but your login name isn't visible.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

You've repeatedly stated I've "clipped context". Please explain exactly what you mean. What relevant context have I left out? You just repeat your claim without explaining it.

I said it thrice directly in relation to the above, because that's exactly what you tried to do, change the context of the image because it(and being ignored) upsets you. Don't play stupid now.

The "obsolete narrative" (I assume you mean the Getty bunker?) isn't my concern, nor am I "pushing it". My concern is your intentional misquoting of @stosh21

LOL!

You are intentionally are confusing who is who, and thereby label my pinging of @stevendkelley as "suspicious". Considering you've edited so many of your comments for "clarity" I don't understand why you aren't fixing this glaring mistake in the body of your post.

Hahahahha!

@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude @Shizy ^^

This is great!

And then you have to rectify such claims with your other claims that many of these accounts are my alts. Am I therefore grooming myself?

Playing stupid again ey? Where exactly did I state in explicit terms that the other users pinged/mentioned are your alts?

And don't just rely on the title of the first follow up to this thread, which you're either deliberately misreading or are too stupid to understand.

To say I "fixate" on female users, you'd have to 1- count all of my interactions, 2- quantify them between male/female (not cherry pick specific interactions/say they represent a trend). 3- You'd have to prove each user is indeed Male or Female 4 - Somehow prove that commenting/responding = fixating (which is a logical leap 5 - prove that supposed fixation is "manipulative/grooming" (an armchair psychological leap) 6 - prove my gender because if I am female, it wouldnt be "fixation"

Oh but many of these users do/have state(d) their gender and I'd hazard a guess that quite a few of them are being honest about it. Can you prove otherwise? Are you calling think-, @srayzie and others liars? Or do you just not trust that they're being honest?

Are you saying that "Donkey" is wrong to attack them for being female, because they might not be?

LOL! So, females can't fixate on other females? Why's that?

You are spinning in circles dude.

Oh god lol... again, you have no idea. Or do you?

And if downvoats are any sign not very many people find your posts useful (though I suppose you'll just say those are alts/manipulated people hating on you)

Ah but of course you would try to rely on this as an indicator of your validity - the voting means very little here, considering that of course those users mentioned aren't going to be happy.

Makes sense that you think the downvotes matter, seeing as how you're quite likely one of the people downvoting just to create that perception and then capitalize on it. Kinda reminds me of this, just saying.

Which, hey, it's normal for you to downvote in a thread about you - don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're genuinely downvoting that which you disagree with and that's not sarcasm in the slightest.

I do however find it kind of funny that my replies to you aren't getting immediate downvotes after that screenshot, though. Sure, people will come in and downvote them a little later, but that's their/your prerogative - I on the other hand, feel no obligation to downvote even though there's a few comments more than worthy of it(not talking about yours, either).

Bullshit. She asked you a pointed QUESTION about why part of your post was relevant to your claims.

You didnt answer it. Not a comment, a question. That doesn't seem "respectful" to me.

Have a good ol' ree over that. Not every comment(or question, if you must split hairs) warrants a response - the ensuing discussion would be irrelevant and would turn into an argument that need not be had, because I have no reason to anger her. But of course, you'll keep trying to spin it to make it look like I'm disrespecting her, because as usual, you want to perpetuate the infighting. That's becoming more and more obvious.

Yes, I've read the entirety of your comment, it's just so damn hilarious that I'm not gonna quote every portion of it.

You just put the icing on the cake, as it were. Predicted ahead of time.

Do whatever you want.

Ditto. This next part is going to be even more interesting.

Have a real hard think about why I ignored the comment of yours which you're trying to use as a means to claim victory. Think real hard. Don't just settle for the conclusion that makes you feel happy and accomplished, think about it.

To be continued...

All questions in this comment are rhetorical and do not require a response - feel free to respond if you're so inclined, though.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Oh but many of these users do/have state(d) their gender and I'd hazard a guess that quite a few of them are being honest about it. Can you prove otherwise? Are you calling think-, @srayzie and others liars? Or do you just not trust that they're being honest?

Nope I don't trust them to be honest. Nor am I calling anyone a liar.

I judge people by the content of their posts, not the gender they claim to be on an anonymous forum.

argosciv ago

Ah shit, gotta redo some pings because of quotes. LAME!

See parent.

See also parent of parent - note the timestamp. Called it 13 minutes ahead of time xD

@Shizy @srayzie + @MolochHunter

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I would appreciate it if you would stop pinging me.

@NOMOCHOMO @argosciv

Believe me when I tell you neither one of you want to know what I think.

NOMOCHOMO ago

I actually do want to know what you think, whether in public or private message.

But since you've asked, I won't ping you anymore

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Other than your name and the stink you caused, I have no problem with you at this time.

If you are who you say you are(how you would prove that I have no idea), then I want you to know that I read all church related posts on cdan that my limited abilities to search would allow back then, and Schneiderisnext fucking ROCKS.

When I asked you not to ping me I was referring to this awful sub and post, feel free to ping me to anything on non offensively titled subs. Have a good day.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

thank you

NOMOCHOMO ago

"Looking back at the main post, at the bottom we see this said by Stosh21:

btw, My name is Steven D Kelley, google me if you want more."

@Argosciv If you are trying to insinuate @Stosh21 is Steven D Kelley, YOU are mistaken/did not read the post or comments.

stosh21 is QUOTING the original Facebook post by stevendkelley

In the comment section stosh21 repeats HE IS NOT Steven D Kelley (emphasis mine):

A. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7283987

"Hey, I just put this out there for discussion. Please remember this guy was posting this stuff well BEFORE Pizzagate. So it's not a story to discredit Pizzagate."

B. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7283483

What I posted is all I have. Was actually hoping some researcher might have more on this.It does look like another chain in the link. I do believe this guy was posting this stuff well BEFORE Pizzagate broke...

C. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7283964

I agree. It does seem implausible. Who knows how the author comes up with those figures. I would venture to say that there are a sizable number of people that can fit in these secret underground facilities.

The architects and ultimate inhabitants of these underground facilities are “elite” international and intergenerational satanists. Kelley refers to them as “cavers”, and regards the facilities themselves as “castles” because of their Caligula-like opulence. Much has been published about DUMBs – Deep Underground Military Bases – but Kelley is the first to give us a clear picture of what the writers of the Protocols of Zion called their underground “metropolitans”

@think- @kevdude @molochhunter

Argos is clearly misrepresenting his "evidence" to try and smear me. ARGOSCIV is the one exhibiting "Suspicious Behavior"

NOMOCHOMO ago

@shizy @shewhomustbeobeyed

Plz see parent

Shizy ago

I have no clue what any of this is about. I don't know the history here so I'm trying to read and get up to speed.

NOMOCHOMO ago

@srayzie @crensch @vindicator

Please see parent

Vindicator ago

I'm happy to consider your claim, Nomo, if you will kindly enlighten us as to the name of your original account. Clearly you've been around pizzagate longer than two months. And obviously you weren't just a lurker, since you hit the board with a detailed multipart series posted in two or three days on an obscure topic.

If you want to be taken seriously, bona fides are necessary.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Clearly you've been around pizzagate longer than two months. And obviously you weren't just a lurker, since you hit the board with a detailed multipart series posted in two or three days on an obscure topic.

Weird... I know you don't mean it as one, but I can only take that as a compliment. Because again: I've never had any other voat account.

Like I already said. I've followed pizzagate since the initial FBI-anon dropped the codes on 4-chan. I lurked on r/pizzagate and continued lurking for almost 2 years here on voat. The whole time I was doing my own research into Alefantis, AHEPA, International Adoptions, Ritual Abuse, Secret Societies, and other Pgate topics.

I've never posted b4 because I don't believe you are ever truly anonymous on the internet. While I shared my research with "woke" family and friends, I felt I was already being put on watch-lists based on search history and private communications. That culminated in 2 consecutive instances of a drone with a blinking red light hovering over my house in December 2016 for about 5 minutes each night. Whenever I began video-ing it, it flew away faster than I could follow it.

While I can't prove it was related to anything I was researching (or anything at all). It was enough to scare me into continued silence.

I first became aware of institutionalized elite pedophilia from r/conspiracy and r/cst (critical shower thoughts). I never posted on Reddit either, but lurked for about 5 years prior. There I learned about the Dutroux affair, the WaPo White House Rent Boys, Gunderson, Dave Mcgowan, Mk-Ultra, CIA Brownstone Operations, and other proto-pgate pedophilia scandals. What little trust I had in institutions continued to evaporate.

I began studying internet/computer security (to at least complicate institutional/government data collection and tracking). Eventually intending to share my research once I felt more capable of protecting myself, I finally began posting on CDAN when "The Church" was the subject of blind items. That is the first site I ever began contributing to rather than simply lurking. There, I interacted with benrayfield, asolo, and (I believe carmencita..though I think under a different CDAN username). I have previously shared the initials of my CDAN username.

I finally joined voat (specifically for v/pizzagate) and wrote "a detailed multipart series posted in two or three days on an obscure topic" because I had researched the topic for a couple years already. Upon returning to my initial research, I found more substantiating evidence which better completed my initial suspicions. So I compiled some of my research into a giant document and began posting it. It was a joy to finally get it out of my head and share it with the community.

I was in a transitional period of my life where I no longer had as many responsibilities, and was able to devote almost all of my energy to writing, researching, and posting. Thus I came out with my barrels blazing. Perhaps too self-confident and with a bit of a god complex (like I was going to bust this thing wide open)

In retrospect, I would have taken it more slowly. I understand now how much shill activity happens here, and can see why you all thought/think I was/am part of it.

But I'm not. And my anger at being labelled one is genuine. Maybe it's negative, but that chip on my shoulder still fuels me a bit.

After not posting for years out of fear, to be labelled a shill/alt made me believe perhaps even this forum/site/moderators are corrupt, this is a honeypot, or it was all futile.

But I'm still here, I'm still defending myself, and I'm still researching and posting.

If you want to be taken seriously, bona fides are necessary.

I don't know which definition of "bona fides" you mean.

If you mean proof of honesty, tell me how to do so. If something can be arranged between you, me, and putitout. I'm all ears.

If you want my government name (a literal bona fide -documentation/proof) Tough Shit.

I know my own integrity. So I don't really care what ya'll think. I'm communicating what I think to be true. I also know I'm a flawed person, who doesn't have all the answers. But I'm trying to find more of them and I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong.

I'm happy to consider your claim, Nomo, if you will kindly enlighten us as to the name of your original account.

If you fuckin' waterboarded me dude the answer will always remain the same. I'm NOMOCHOMO.

No More Child Molesters. That's it. That's what I'm fighting for and that's why I'm here.

@crensch @kevdude @srayzie @think-

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

You do not smell like @ESOTERICshade to me (still waiting on those answers ES), but I remain on the fence about your character.

I too lurked for a full year before making an account, but unlike every single other person on this website, this is the ONLY place on the internet I have EVER 'socialized', VOAT created me. PG fell in my lap and I had to learn how to type, but the character of the old goats is something I know, you don't.

@Vindicator was here from the start, and while I have seen him be mistaken more than once, he never lies that I know of.

Vin is the only mod I trust (until @think- gets rested and back on the team), and the only person I DM outside my own fam., you and others (looking at you @Argosciv) have underestimated my ability to know everything that goes on (outside of DM's), so did my government, I'm used to it.

Please stop attacking the mods; it’s unseemly. Play nice.

@heygeorge speaks for me on this.

No matter what you do the stench of ES will be on you because of YOUR actions, own it.

I fucking hate your name, not you, so far.

ESOTERICshade ago

but I remain on the fence about your character.

My character is stronger than ever. I provided a vital and necessary function in this sub. That function was to split the pizzagate and Qanon world into two different worlds. It had to be done in order for pizzagate to survive. The pizzagate rule set is supposed to keep pizzagate as fact based as possible to maintain it's credibility. The Qanon world operates in wishful thinking, hope, and wildly outlandish made up scenarios.

Mixing those two worlds together would have killed pizzagate stone cold dead. I think @vindicator has good intentions, he just was not insightful enough to see that mixing those two worlds was inherently unwise. Now that a year has passed he can probably see that pizzagate and Qanon are NOT THE SAME THING, as he once demanded and wanted them to be, although he would never admit it.

I felt compelled to fight that battle because I saw the need, and I had the time. I used to spend my time in pizzagate contributing with details and facts. @vindicator unwise decisions caused me to switch my role to fighting for this sub's survival. It ruined pizzagate for me. It exhausted my will to participate. At the end of the day pizzagate is still isolated from the disinformation of the Qanon world so I feel pretty good about it all.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Are you going to answer my questions?

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15715894

ESOTERICshade ago

All of the accounts that have been attributed to me are not mine. When people disagree with vindicator or crensch they immediately cry "alt." Its not always true but its convenient for them to use. I'm logging off now. I have some interesting things in real life going on that I want to participate in. Thanx for all you do here. It is much appreciated by all :) Have a great day :)

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

You are a coward.

ESOTERICshade ago

You are a coward.

I was the person that stepped forward and saved v/pizzagate from becoming something like v/pizzqanon. You are not talking to a coward. It took a lot of my time to do it. I had to get in the gutter with sewer rats like crensch to do it too. When you fight sewer rats you have to use whatever tools you can find in the sewer. Fight fire with fire. It wasn't fun, I promise you that.

NOMOCHOMO ago

No matter what you do the stench of ES will be on you because of YOUR actions

Fair. And I admit to that.

I'm trying to now "play nice" but I don't like "playing", I shoot from the hip. I won't attack mods, but I will defend myself if somebody falsely claims I'm an alt.

Mhmm. S.i.N. are the initials of my CDAN username

If you follow "the Church" posts from last year, you will hear my voice and propensity to lash out.

NOMOCHOMO ago

I had not seen your pgwhatever post (re: short creek dream center), but I have seen the pgate posts.

Thank you for considering/sharing it. To me this was a less politically charged way to talk about pizzagate/elitepedos as the #metoo movement was receiving mainstream support

I'm not sure if I saw the comment you made, but I was regularly cross posting v/pizzagate to the cdan threads to try to spread awareness during that period of Pedowood reveals.

Idk if that makes me more or less credible in mods eyes.

@vindicator is that a "bona fide" ?

srayzie ago

I mod pizzagate more behind the scenes. I’m busy on GreatAwakening most of the time. I know many of the people I’m pinged to from the days that I was just a regular user. I don’t know you. So I don’t have an opinion either way. Sorry.

EricKaliberhall ago

You stated the following in the submission exposing ESOTERICshade and many of his alts..

[–] NOMOCHOMO -2 points (+3|-5) 7 days ago

And now think- quit as a Mod.

It's fascinating how this stickied shitshow has only fractured the community

...under the guise of "protecting" it

You are not fighting against obvious disinformation and vote-manipulation. You call the exposing of it a "shitshow". I don't give a shit if you are ESOTERIC or not... You are not on my side, you are against me. You start any kind of shit in v/pizzagate and I will bury you. Now you can go fuck youself you fucking asshole.

NOMOCHOMO ago

You call the exposing of it a "shitshow"

I call the STICKYING of it a shitshow,

Because as it only makes this community look like it's fractured, rather than focusing on Elite Pedophilia, (the largest/most commented, stickied post focuses on subreddit drama, not our main mission)

You are not on my side, you are against me.

Your right to that opinion. I'm only against Pedos and Pedo protectors. Hope I can eventually prove that to you

EricKaliberhall ago

I call the STICKYING of it a shitshow,

No you didn't.

Because it only makes this community look like it's fractured

Bullshit... We deal with our shit by exposing it for all to see. You think hiding it and hoping it will go away all by itself is any long term solution?

I'm only against Pedos and Pedo protectors. Hope I can eventually prove that to you

If you continue with weasel-words the only thing you will prove is that you are not a legit user... Time will tell.

NOMOCHOMO ago

What weasel-words?

Please name them so I can avoid them

EricKaliberhall ago

I call the STICKYING of it a shitshow,

This right here is you using weasel-words trying to weasel your way out of your own statement.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Your words:

You call the exposing of it a "shitshow"

Vs

My original statement:

It's fascinating how this stickied shitshow has only fractured the community

I never called the original "expose" a shitshow.

"stickied shitshow"

Please don't twist my words. I repeated them as I stated them.

I changed the past tense (stickied) to the present tense (stickying) to show the relevant adjective.

The original post itself wasn't a shitshow.

The "stickying" (over 1000 comments later) has turned it into a shitshow

Again. I only criticized the "stickied shitshow" after I was accused of being an ES alt in a comment addendum.

It was in response to SWMBO pointing out that the whole thread was becoming an energy drain and we all were "pissing away valuable resources"

EricKaliberhall ago

Ok, @NOMOCHOMO I see where you're coming from... I don't agree that the "stickying" (over 1000 comments later) has turned it into a shitshow. I will try to keep an open mind in regards to you... We need warriors and time will tell if you are legit or not.

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NOMOCHOMO ago

Thanks dude.

I'm fine if we disagree, but thanks for considering my side / letting me explain myself.

Attaching this comment as it provides some more context:

https://voat.co/v/Lampshadematerial/2934223/15806094

heygeorge ago

I don’t know why, but I believe you, b. I lurked here, even after making my account, for about a year. And I lurked, accountless, for considerably longer than that.

Please stop attacking the mods; it’s unseemly. Play nice.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Thank you man. That really really really means a lot to me.

I have so much respect and appreciation for what ya'll have created here, and the collective effort you're leading. (especially as everywhere else seemingly gets more censored)

I've realized you all have different opinions/perspectives and I have unfairly been viewing "Mods" as a collective monolith.

Sometimes I get distracted by the differences of opinion instead of focusing on the shared goal.

Thank you for reading my gut-wrenching, word-vomit, overdramatic, desperation rant.

I may disagree with some of you some of the time, but I'll hold my tongue.

I also know that other mods/users may still think I'm full of shit. But all I can do is try to change that with good contributions.

There's a shitton more research, compilation, education, and mass awareness to work towards. I'l try to stay focused on that and not let my emotions get the best of me.

Thank you again. Just for hearing me out and telling me I'm not alone in this.

MadWorld ago

They will ALWAYS find something else to attack this site...

Piscina ago

You being paid by the line or by how many researchers u can bully? You are the reason Voat is losing cred.

argosciv ago

Hahahahaha!

Says the user who's trying to bully @PuttItOut and concern troll/push a narrative that Voat is compromised.

Whoever has put the money into this venture now pulls all the strings. No transparency unless we are told who the financial backer is.

For money, of course! Anything is for sale--even scruples, integrity, honesty and transparency--if the price is right. I'd guess that the satanist pedos have thrown Voat a bone and will now call the shots. Whoever pays the piper calla the tune.

Oh wait, what's that? You didn't even have the guts to post the above as top-level comments so that Putt gets notified of them?

Piscina ago

You're a whiny baby if you think those comments are trolling. Go somewhere and grow a pair and a brain and then come back.

srayzie ago

The bitch says you're the problem, yet she follows you to your own sub just to talk shit. The one making money is the whining cunt that keeps accusing others of being either paid or a pedophile. Obviously a shill.

@Piscina take your ass back to pizzagate and shut the fuck up.

Piscina ago

From the she-wolf who has the face of a horse's arse and is as attractive as a dirty ashtray that's pretty funny. Your psyche needs to up your meds and lock you back up in your ward Crayzie.

srayzie ago

Well someone’s an insecure cunt! You say all that, yet in another comment, you just called ME the drama queen lol. It’s not my fault that you ended up with the ugly gene. 🙄 With that bitterness, you must have some deep ass wrinkles!

I’m pinging @Shizy for a good laugh! 😁

Piscina ago

Spineless, gutless ugly little twat that you are, you can't stand on your own two feet. You need to call your goon squad in to back you up in your vile bullying. You're a disgrace of a human being, and dogshit ugly to boot.

Shizy ago

I didn't know you "psyche" can prescribe meds?! 🤣

How is being called a she wolf an insult? I'm guessing Pissina is really old!

srayzie ago

I think so too. She was rude to me before and told me something like she was smarter because she’s lived longer.

Piscina ago

Poor baby cries because people are 'rude' to her while she calls them cunts. Fool doesn't recognise the irony.

srayzie ago

@Shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Vindicator @Crensch

Look at this stupid bitch calling Argosciv a bully, when she's the one that brought her ass over here to his new sub. See how the bullshit is now spreading to other subs? Her and her shill gang want the drama. They will find something to bitch about. There's no way this drama queen cunt isn't paid.

Piscina ago

Poor cry baby @crayzie needs to call for the mommies. She's crying. Someone hand poor baby a tissue. Wha wha wha!!!

Piscina ago

Hey @crayzie you need to call in your Voat brigading reinforcements you are so pathetic on your own. Here comes your little goon squad to protect you. Poor baby you are!

srayzie ago

My comments incriminate the mods? My comments prove I’m a bitch to mouthy cunts like you. Guilty!

...attack users from your fat arse.

You haven’t seen my ass. Be glad you didn’t. You’d be even more jealous you UGLY CUNT.

The one who’s batshit crazy, is the one that accuses us of the most insane shit. Did you read all my evidence last week proving that I wasn’t lying? Looks like you failed again.

I don’t mind that you call me crayzie. It doesn’t bug me like being called a curb bothers you... CUNT!

@Shizy

Shizy ago

This coucou again? I thought the boring old granny's moved to another site?

srayzie ago

Poal 😂 She needs to take her fat granny ass back over there. 🙄

Piscina ago

Hilarious coming from a wrinkled hippopotamus like you Crayzie.

Shizy ago

Guess you haven't seen @srayzie's picture 😂

argosciv ago

Well, she would have gotten a ping if nothing else - same as how NOMO got one. That was my bad for not realizing that u/ mentions result in a ping.

That said...

Obvious agenda and allegiances are obvious.

srayzie ago

Yeah, IT is a she

Piscina ago

Says the Neanderthal hairy-backed shewolf who tries SO hard to look sexy on her profile pics. Give up now Crayzie because you trying to look attractive is like a cow trying to bear fruit...it just ain't gonna happen :(

3141592653 ago

Get a hobby, mate. And stop comment-stalking me, its getting rather creepy. Go listen to some Tool. You dont have to like or understand my way of interacting with my peers via commenting. Happy holidays mate

argosciv ago

Quite possibly the most interesting response so far.

I'm still very iffy considering what I've seen and shown in the main post, but, I've been wrong about you before and will be glad to be wrong about you again.

Thanks for the memory jog.

Hostility towards you suspended.

3141592653 ago

sorry for the delayed response. and thanks, I think (?!) Everyone might not agree with all my views, but I'm certainly not a shill. I've dedicated two decades to this fight. best to you.

argosciv ago

sorry for the delayed response.

Ditto

and thanks, I think (?!)

Haha yep I was being nice there. Genuinely thanking you also, for jogging my memory about a few things.

You may or may not be aware of just how much you helped ;)

3141592653 ago

Im not aware at all. Thank you !

srayzie ago

Or word got around. Especially considering how things were handled. It’s not everyday that a mod publicly resigns in the comment section. I’m sure a lot of people heard about it.

@Shizy @MolochHunter @Vindicator @Kevdude @Crensch

argosciv ago

NOMO says here that they were watching/checking the submission and that's how they found out.

Then went and sought out @shewhomustbeobeyed's comment from over a day prior.

srayzie ago

Yes I saw that.

think- ago

Anon to v/QRV - "Mods Vindicator and Srayzie on the Pizzagate sub defending satanist pedophile Michael Aquino. Attacking another Pizzagate Mod think- and she resigns in protest.":

https://voat.co/v/QRV/2926720/ | https://archive.is/bfFjH

I assume that the poster is @youllrememberme, who showed up in no time after I stepped back on the stickied EsotericShade thread. He should maybe have had the grace to ping me, although I'm not interested in his shill drama.

I didn't leave a comment there.

@argosciv: After reading the post today, I wondered whether you might have left comments? Specifically the comments defending Michael Aquino? Just askin'. Thanks.

youllrememberme ago

Specifically the comments defending Michael Aquino?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but just so I don't get accused of some more bullshit, I'll put this on the record. I would never defend satans eyebrows.

argosciv ago

I've opted not to reply to you here yet so as not to provoke anger in you, but, since you ask.

I did not. I've nothing to do with posting that submission or any of the comments therein - .

I was alerted to it by someone(good) and the only thing I did in regards to it was archive it and look for timestamps/comments in the ES thread which might indicate who did or might be connected to whoever did post it.

Whoever is behind it, is trying to play both sides and cause good folk to turn on each other(no doubt in my mind that it connects back to YRM and co.) - which is absolutely not something I'm interested in doing.

As I've said, I have no interest in even talking about Aquino, let alone defending him if it's true that he's abused children. The 'konformist' link you posted the other day was worth taking into account and I've taken the time to follow up on a couple of the sources in it, though it's still not something I'm 100% sure on, one way or the other.

think- ago

Ok, thanks for replying. I asked because my suspicion was that M. Aqui. himself was the anonymous writer who commented. I guess he has a google alert, and shows up whenever his name is mentioned in forum posts.

The 'konformist' link you posted the other day was worth taking into account and I've taken the time to follow up on a couple of the sources in it, though it's still not something I'm 100% sure on, one way or the other.

The FBI stopped investigating him at some point, but later an investigator stepped forward, and said the FBI division in question had links to Aquino's Temple of Seth, and this was the reason the investigation (Aquino's role in the Presidio daycare abuse scandal) was closed.

After the FBI closed the investigation, the Army Crime Investigation Division opened a new investigation. They came to the conclusion that there were reasons to assume he is guilty. He was titled (= tagged in the army files) as an offender. He appealed against getting titled, but lost the court case. The Court decided that the investigation of the CID and him getting titled were legit. It stressed that the CID had pointed out that his alibi wasn't convincing.

It found that he lied when he said that nobody called him 'Mickey', like the children had said he was called.

LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan called him 'Mickey'.

It found that his allegations that the CID was instigated by an anti-Satanist senator wasn't true, because the timeline of events were not like Aquino had pointed them out.

The Court also found that he wrongly accused the pastor-father of one of the girls accusing him (the one that @Vindicator mentioned in his comment) of harassing him via mail.

It also found that Aquino lied about the girls age, in order to make it seem impossible that she was in the daycare centre at the time the CID said she was.

TL;DR: There is an Army Criminal Investigation Division Report that says he has to be seen as a sex offender.

There was a Court that said the CID investigation and their results were legit.

There was a former investigator who stepped forward later and told the FBI that closed the case was compromised.

I'm just sticking to the facts here, not to my personal interpretation.

I will do a post about the case.

@kevdude @Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @MolochHunter

argosciv ago

TL;DR: There is an Army Criminal Investigation Division Report that says he has to be seen as a sex offender.

Yes, this was one of the sources I followed up on, the court document relating to that.

I'd have to follow up again to look for explicit mention of some of the other stuff you mention above, though, as the document I read(if I recall) didn't touch on them.

Shizy ago

Oh wow! I didn't know any of that about Aquino. Ping me when you make your post on this!

think- ago

I will, @Shizy.

srayzie ago

You publicly resigned as a pizzagate mod due to @Argosciv’s becoming a mod of ProtectVoat. Am I correct? Is this all based off of Argosciv’s beliefs in regards to Aquino? If not, I would like clarification. Thanks.

think- ago

You publicly resigned as a pizzagate mod due to @Argosciv’s becoming a mod of ProtectVoat. Am I correct?

No, I didn't. That I resigned had nothing to do with him becoming a mod of v/ProtectVoat in fact. That was a discussion I had with him and @kevdude the day (IIRC) before, and which had already ended.

I wrote in my resignation comment why I resigned in public. You might want to read it again. You asked me why I resigned in public, for some strange reason you insinuated so many things, but somehow ignored what I had actually explained about my resignation.

I resigned because @Vindicator attacked me in public. I had written a PM to him five hours before, saying I pondered to step down, which he ignored, instead he rushed to the thread to defend @argosciv.

I cannot cope with the cognitive dissonance anymore that is caused by seeing people I really cared about defending @argosciv, and acting like he is a normal user like everybody else. This is why I resigned in the first place. I came here to fight pedophilia and Satanism.

It wasn't me who started to discuss this issue in public, it was @Vindicator. I would have preferred to discuss this in PMs. He chose to attack me like that, although I was a close friend and his close fellow mod. I was all in tears when I read his comment. I felt I couldn't mod one minute more, I felt so exhausted.

I pinged a bunch of users because I was serving the community as a mod. They had the right to know that I resigned. And I did it on the thread because I was so tired, and was crying, I wasn't sure I would be ablet to write a post on v/pizzagatemods. And anyway, they should also know why I resigned.

You might have forgiven @argosciv, but I haven't forgotten that he harassed you with Satanic music videos, that he trolled the sub with Satanic music, that he refused to answer whether he is a Satanist when @Shizy asked him twice, that he admits he drinks blood and is into sex magick. That he spread that we all got it wrong when we think Satanism is evil, that it has been all a big misunderstanding, hence his 'Roots of Corruption' series. (Please correct me if I'm wrong with anything I'm saying, @argosciv.) Someone like he doesn't belong on v/pizzagate imo, and in the very least shouldn't be accepted by the mod team.

If I get @Vindicator right, he thinks this is 'just' @argosciv's religion. Well, but we are on a sub investigating Satanic Ritual Abuse. We are discussing the shticks of the Church of Satan, like displaying a statue of Baphomet in public. They too, claim there members aren't into anything nefarious.

And regarding Michael Aquino: He has been discussed here over and over again. If a newbie thinks the allegations against him are not proven: ok. I would have sent him some old posts, and suggested to read them. But that a Satanist, who has been here for two years, says the allegations are 'not proven', although there are the results of the CID investigation, and the Court documents, is a totally different matter. It's like Are_We_Sure saying that the allegations against Hillary 'are not proven'.

And that @Vindicator choose Wikipedia of all websites, to support @argosciv's claim, and then added @argosciv's quote where he said the SRA victims just 'parroted' their abusers - as if SRA victims who broke from Satanist cults are just too stupid to see what he, @agrosciv claims, also made me very angry. There are countless SRA survivors who did research, there are therapists and scholars writing about Ritual Abuse, but he, @argosciv, is the only one who found out the truth? And @Vindicator obviously thinks we should listen to what he says.

I put so much time and effort in modding the sub, I always had your back, and this is the result? I feel very sad.

@Crensch

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srayzie ago

I probably didn’t read all the fine details when you posted. I was shocked. I didn’t know that you wrote Vindicator earlier. But, you were one of my best friends. We always talked. If you and Vindicator fought, I was always the one to be in the middle talking you guys down. I would comfort you because you really cared for him. So I was shocked when I found out.

I love you. I also love Vindicator. He’s been going thru a lot and he’s hurt too. I hurt for him as well. What hurts the most, is that you didn’t even warn me. You didn’t even write me afterwards. We talked almost daily. Several times a day even. How could you go do that and ping everyone and not give a damn that you hurt me? You had to have known I would be shocked. I’ve had a mixture of emotions. From being pissed off, to being disappointed, to being sad. Look how long it is ok for you to even acknowledge me, or reply to my comments. I’ve stayed calm and reasonable. I didn’t cuss you out or disrespect you. I didn’t deserve this.

Think-, we are both adults. We’ve had different upbringings. You know things about me that hardly anyone knows. If I didn’t have forgiveness in my heart for my mom and my brother, I would have grown up a fricken basket case. If I didn’t have the love and support of the people in my life now, I wouldn’t be alive today. I understand that you deal with things differently. We all deal with things in our own ways. You can’t expect everyone to deal with things the same way you do. I know I don’t always show it, and have my sins, but I am a Christian. I believe in forgiveness.

Something my dad taught me that has helped me thru life, is that when someone hurts us, or someone was bad, look at their intentions. Was that person TRYING to hurt you? Did that person grow up wanting to have addiction overtake their lives? Did that person go thru some sort of trauma growing up, and now they are broken? Is it so bad to hold someone’s hand when they are struggling?

I know that my mom was fucked up in so many ways. But she loved me and WANTED to change. Argosciv WANTS to get his life in order. He may succeed. He may not. It may take 5 more attempts until he actually makes it. Would you rather him just keep doing those things? What is the likelihood that someone will change if they have no support and everyone is going to hate him anyways?

I may not be the smartest person, but my life has given me wisdom. Hopefully you can someday see our points of view. We’ve all had different journey’s in life. We’re all at different stages in terms of growth. My life was fucked growing up. I myself have screwed up many times. The best thing I can do, is to learn from it and grow. To take what I’ve learned and use it for good. It made me a stronger person and a more compassionate person. I am glad I was able to reach this point. It took me years to reach this point. So, by you choosing to just up and run and not accept me for being the kind of person that I have strived to be, is really unfair.

You know I didn’t even like Argosciv when all this started. Just because I have chose to support Argosciv, does not IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM mean that I am ok with Satanism, blood drinking, etc... It means that as long as someone is willing to try to improve, then we should be there for our fellow brothers and sisters. They are only human.

I would have totally disagreed if Argosciv became a mod of pizzagate. That’s different. That’s where a lot of people were upset by the things he said. There are many victims there. But, he’s not a mod there. He’s a mod of ProtectVoat, and he’s damn good at researching and finding the fuckery going on here on Voat. Not only does it help us, it’s keeping HIS mind busy. It’s keeping him out of trouble. I’ve witnessed his positive changes first hand.

I am not trying to change you. I accept you for not having the same beliefs as me. But I don’t accept you expecting us all to believe the same as you. You totally dropped me out of the blue. You would even ping Vindicator. You and I didn’t even fight, and all of a sudden, I see you avoiding me. Now you’re buddy buddy with shewhomustbeobeyed. It shows me that we weren’t as close as I thought we were.

My doors always open if you choose to enter. I know you’re a good person. I hope you’re doing well. Xoxo

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I'm sorry you don't like me. Anything I can do to reassure you that I am not against you?

srayzie ago

Nooo. It’s nothing like that. Nothing against you at all. I’ve talked to you before and I did like you. My problem is with Think-. Sorry if I made you feel that way. I’m glad she has someone. I was just sad because I had no warning and it’s like she just moved on and replaced what we had. It’s not your fault.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I’m glad she has someone

I don't know who that would be, you know her much better than I do.

It’s not your fault.

I know, but thank you for saying so. :)

think- ago

I probably didn’t read all the fine details when you posted.

Well, you better had before insinuating I had sinister motives. :-/ /is angry

He’s been going thru a lot and he’s hurt too.

He's hurt that he attacked me? /s He owes me an apology.

You didn’t even write me afterwards.

You think you can attack me in public like that, and I will just continue our friendship as if nothing had happened?!

Look how long it is ok for you to even acknowledge me, or reply to my comments. I’ve stayed calm and reasonable. I didn’t cuss you out or disrespect you. I didn’t deserve this.

Ah, now I am getting bashed, because I wrote my responses 'too late'? /gets really angry now

My laptop is out of order, as I wrote @Vindicator - in a comment here on this thread, and I have been ill. That's all. So instead of appreciating that I defended you against 'youllrememberme', you are turning this against me now? WTF?

but I am a Christian

Well, I am too. And I don't accept Satanists on a sub that is meant to fight Satanism, and Satanic Ritual Abuse.

You can forgive @argosciv all you want. But this is not a self-help group for Satanists, or a therapy group. Many SRA survivors come here, or are lurking. Do you realize how they must feel when they see the mod team being buddies with someone like @argosciv? I don't care with whom you hang out otherwise. That's not my business. I don't have to like your buddies on Voat.

But when I was a v/pizzagate mod, it was my damn business to tell you that it doesn't look good that you hang out with @argosciv.

I PMed you. It was you who choose to take this to the public. The day before, when I had the convo with @kevdude and @argosciv, I suggested you might want to PM me, too, but you choose to reply to me on the public thread.

I read what @Vindicator wrote about @argosciv's beliefs, pretending it's just a matter of Free Speech, as if this was a religion like any other religion. This is really, really TERRIBLE for a v/pizzagate mod. We are here to fight Satanism, not to endorse it as a religion. FFS.

So, by you choosing to just up and run and not accept me for being the kind of person that I have strived to be, is really unfair.

You didn't even try to understand my point when I PMed you about my problems with being friendly to @argosciv. I didn't just 'run'.

I had an ongoing discussion with @Vindicator for four months. Four months ago he did exactly the same thing: Ignoring my PM, instead he rushed to the public thread, defending @argosciv. This is just unbelievable. You too seem to forget that we have users who are survivors of SRA.

And btw, where the heck has @Vindicator been when we discussed Michael Aquino? When we discussed over and over again that Wikipedia is not a reliable source when it comes to articles about sexual abuse? When SRA victims told their experiences with Satanism and Satanic Ritual Abuse?

I would have totally disagreed if Argosciv became a mod of pizzagate. That’s different.

I already explained to you that it wasn't him becoming a mod of v/ProtectVoat that made me resign. Why didn't you read what I wrote in my earlier comment today?! He systematically groomed the mods by bootlicking, and made himself 'useful'. That's why I made my earlier remark to him at the time on @Crensch's Esoteric sticky thread.

it’s keeping HIS mind busy.

I don't care.

But I don’t accept you expecting us all to believe the same as you.

When it comes to endorsing Satanism, you better should, otherwise you will loose your credibility as a v/pizzagate mod. If you choose to support @argosciv as a mod team, you'll have to continue modding without me. I loved being a mod. But I cannot cope with the cognitive dissonance that my fellow mods are either shitposting with @argosciv, sending him congrats to his anniversary on Voat in public, or are accepting his beliefs as a religion as any other, like @Vindicator does. I just can't.

I see you avoiding me.

Again: Do you think you can attack me in public, and I will just ignore it, and carry on as usual?

Now you’re buddy buddy with shewhomustbeobeyed. It shows me that we weren’t as close as I thought we were.

What is the background story to this? I was on friendly terms with her before. I helped her crossposting from v/pizzagatewhatever to v/pizzagate in the past. If you don't like @shewhomustbeobeyed, what is the connection to our relationship?

It shows me that we weren’t as close as I thought we were.

I will always cherish the friendship we had, @srayzie. If you think that 'we weren't as close as' you thought we were, that's up to you. I don't even understand what @shewhomustbeobeyed has to do with it.

I feel very sad that you choose to attack me in public, and now are turning it around. I feel gaslighted.

I borrowed a laptop today, but will leave soon, and will not be online for the next couple days, so please don't expect an immediate reply if you choose to answer to this comment.

srayzie ago

Part 2

Here is my 2nd comment. This one was posted AFTER YOU RESIGNED. I was shocked, my feelings were hurt, and I hadn’t even begun to process it yet, and I STILL stayed calm and wrote you publicly like you had been doing with everyone else. Screenshot

This is how it began...

I love you think-. You’re one of my favorite people. But, this isn’t going to be like my usual message to you. You chose to publicly disrespect every single one us mods.

Then I calmly told how I felt. I’m entitled to my feelings as well.

I ended with this...

Well, you’re my friend. I care about you. I’m always here if you need me.

YOU were the one that was harsh. I poured out my feelings to you, I explain my view on this whole situation, so you could see that my intentions are good. I had hopes that we could be mature enough to remain friends, even if we don’t have the same beliefs. Just like we were able to do regarding Q. My feelings didn’t matter to you at all. You took my feelings being hurt, and twisted everything I said.

Examples of you twisting things...

Me

I see you avoiding me.

You

Do you think you can attack me in public, and I will just ignore it, and carry on as usual?

I’m the bad guy. Think- did everything right. Show me where any one of my comments was attacking you. Maybe you should read them again after you clear your head.

Me

You didn’t even write me afterwards. Look how long it is ok for you to even acknowledge me, or reply to my comments. I’ve stayed calm and reasonable. I didn’t cuss you out or disrespect you. I didn’t deserve this.

Remember, I was the ONLY one you were no longer even pinging. Because my messages were “public attacks.”

You

Ah, now I am getting bashed, because I wrote my responses 'too late'? /gets really angry now

Seriously?

You

Do you realize how they must feel when they see the mod team being buddies with someone like @argosciv?

At that time, I wasn’t even talking to Argosciv very much, and I wasn’t buddy buddy with him. He’s been helping identify shills. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m having doxing attempts and all kinds of shit. That’s practically all we’ve talked about. He had that little celebration thread for his Voat birthday. I made a couple of comments. That’s it. It seems like the shills have everyone hating pizzagate mods anyway. We can’t win for losing.

You

But when I was a v/pizzagate mod, it was my damn business to tell you that it doesn't look good that you hang out with argosciv.

I have certain values when it comes to how I treat other people when they are down, that I am not willing to change.. You do what you feel is right, and I will do what I feel is right. If @Crensch or @Vindicator want me to step down, then so be it.

You

When it comes to endorsing Satanism, you better should, otherwise you will loose your credibility as a v/pizzagate mod. If you choose to support argosciv as a mod team, you'll have to continue modding without me.

I’m not ENDORSING Satanism. I’m fine with you resigning if that’s what you feel you needed to do. But you could have warned me! At the very least, you could have pinged me. Didn’t you feel attacked by Vindicator? Well you still wrote him.

You tell me this...

My laptop is out of order, as I wrote Vindicator - in a comment here on this thread, and I have been ill. That's all.

You could have taken a moment for me when you wrote him.

So instead of appreciating that I defended you against 'youllrememberme', you are turning this against me now?

Geez... Did you not see me say thank you? I think you want me to be the bad guy, so you don’t have to take responsibility for how you handled things.

Me

Now you’re buddy buddy with @shewhomustbeobeyed. It shows me that we weren’t as close as I thought we were.

You

If you don't like shewhomustbeobeyed, what is the connection to our relationship?

Wow. You sure twisted the fuck out of my comment. Where did I ever say that I didn’t like her? All I know is that you’re now pinging her a lot and stopped pinging me. That would hurt your feelings too. This has nothing to do with her and you made her feel like I didn’t like her.

You

I feel very sad that you chose to attack me in public, and now are turning it around. I feel gaslighted.

Well if that’s not the pot calling the kettle black.

Me

It shows me that we weren’t as close as I thought we were.

You

I will always cherish the friendship we had, srayzie.
If you think that 'we weren't as close as' you thought we were, that's up to you.

No, that was up to you. I’ve tried to be here for you. I’ve tried to explain things in a calm manner and having a civil conversation like adults. You clearly have a very distorted view of me, and how friendships work. I’ve said my peace. You’ve never attempted an apology. You’ve continued to not give a damn about my feelings, and now you’re being just plain mean. There’s nothing left for me to say.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Thank you for the ping, I hope you don't mind if I did't read it and skipped to the part that pertains to me (much too private imo)

You said this

Now you’re buddy buddy with shewhomustbeobeyed. It shows me that we weren’t as close as I thought we were.

Regardless of what your intent was, this is the phrase that leads me to believe you don't like me. Not anything that @think- has said.

I am sad for you both, hope you can work this out soon.

srayzie ago

What I meant by that, was how she said I attacked her and stopped pinging me. She’s a pinger. I didn’t even attack her. She resigned and she didn’t tell me and we were close. I guess I’m expected to have no emotions. Then it was like she was avoiding me. She pinged everyone, even Vindicator, but didnt ping me anymore. She always pings. I just kept it to myself.

Since she replied, i tried to tell her she was hurting my feelings. I didn’t mean to make that part sound as if i didn’t like you tho. But I saw that now she’s pinging you and others. It’s not about you at all. It’s that I don’t think she’s being fair right now.

I’m only pinging you because she was. That way you see the whole story.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I understand and do want to know when it concerns me, but let me be clear.

It is not my business, I washed my hands 2 days ago.

Please work this out in private, and not in a sub called LAMP SHADE MATERIAL.

ffs

srayzie ago

It is not my business, I washed my hands 2 days ago.

Oh I didn’t know that. I thought she was keeping you updated because you wanted to be. Ok well no problem.

Please work it out in private...

Tried that remember? Take care.

srayzie ago

Part 1

You

I PMed you. It was you who choose to take this to the public. The day before, when I had the convo with kevdude and @argosciv, I suggested you might want to PM me, too, but you choose to reply to me on the public thread.

First of all, that is not what happened. I received NO PRIVATE MESSAGE from you telling me that you were resigning. I didn’t hear from you at all that day. You voiced your frustrations with me about @Kevdude, @Crensch, and @Vindicator. But that was a day or 2 before, and it was nothing extreme.

What happened is you pinged me to this comment that you made, where you publicly disrespected Kevdude. Doesn’t that mean you started the public fight? You don’t think that shit show helped turn even more people against us Mods? Out of all threads, you sure picked the best one.

To Argosciv you said the following...

Congrats' argosciv, you slimed yourself up kevdude's butt, so that he made you a mod on v/ProtectVoat? Wow. Just wow!!

Then you said this to Kev...

And you can be sure that I will be after your boy argo the minute he starts to push Satanism again (even if it's only by posting Satanic music crap) or is going to defend pedos like Michael Aquino or the OTO. Or promotes 'sex magick' or drinking blood. This is everything I have been fighting against.

Should that have been said publicly? I’m just one to believe that drama between mods should remain private. Especially on subs like Great Awakening and Pizzagate, where we know that deep state and paid shills are looking for even the smallest sign of weakness between us mods, so they can spring the next wave of lies, accusations, and attacks against us. In the long run, it effects the whole board. You’ve started things publicly a few times. One of the times, was directed at Blacksmith21, and it got him de-modded. Each time, you would get upset for making Vindicator upset.

So when you pinged me to the comment you made directed at Kevdude and Argosciv, I even asked you if you wanted me to tell you what I thought. I think you knew that I wasn’t going to be happy. You said I could do whatever I felt like, but please be aware that you were in an aggravated mood because of argosciv, and that you weren’t sure whether I would prefer to PM. | Screenshot.

Since you had been airing things publicly, I decided to respond publicy. I was very calm. I was respectful. This is all I said...

Well since you guys talked about it publicly, I will say it here...

I think Argosciv has shown a lot of improvement and he has been helping with things behind the scenes. He’s not a mod of pizzagate. He’s a mod of ProtectVoat. I could understand your concerns if it was pizzagate.

You know I’ve had my problems with Argosciv as well. But, he has been respectful. He knows that I am a Christian and hasn’t sent me satanic music or anything in a long time. I think people deserve second chances. I have fucked up many times in life. Thank God, I got another shot or I wouldn’t be where I am.

It’s not like someone is under contract. If at anytime Argosciv did something wrong, Kevdude could de-mod him. Technically, since it’s not pizzagate, and it’s a free speech site, he can pretty much talk about Satanism all he wants if he chose to. I wouldn’t like it and wouldn’t get along with him either if he started that shit. Hopefully that won’t happen. But, I’m in support of giving him a chance.

☝🏻That was an attack?

The next time your name popped up, it was because people told me you resigned. How nice of you to give me a heads up.

You didn't even try to understand my point when I PMed you about my problems with being friendly to Argosciv. I didn't just 'run'.

How can you say that? I understood your reasoning. I was trying to also help you understand theirs. Being a friend isn’t always about telling you what you want to hear. I didn’t get rude with you or anything. Our goodbye to each other was like normal.

I had an ongoing discussion with Vindicator for four months.

I know. When I brought up that you were acting more distant, you would talk about it a little bit. But not like you were at your breaking point. I also know Vindicators side, and that things that were going on in his personal life. I felt bad for him too because he was stressed out. I was trying to be a good friend to both of you.

Much of your reply is about Vindicator. I’m focusing now on you and I. What gets me, is how you much you have misinterpreted everything I have said. I NEVER attacked you. I made sure to stay calm and not cause the situation to escalate. For whatever reason, you’re choosing to see me as the bad guy here. Now I’m not going to sugar coat it. You’ll twist my words anyway.

See part 2...

srayzie ago

I don’t think I pinged part 1 in the right place...

@Shizy @MolochHunter @shewhomustbeobeyed @Think-

Shizy ago

This just sucks all around! I feel like crying 🙁.

think- ago

Well, I cried for days after @Vindicator and @srayzie attacked me. :-(

Vindicator ago

When did anyone attack you, think-? When? Show me the evidence of that.

You've been the one on a rampage. You attacked argo and kev. You filled my inbox with angry messages for several weeks, to the point where I didn't even want to log onto the computer. You scoffed at every response I made. When I asked you for evidence that argo was advocating Satanism or Aquino, you gave me nothing that clearly showed that. Nor did you point me to any detailed information about Aquino supporting your vague claim that his crimes were so terrible even a neutral position would irreparably harm all the survivors on the board.

And now you are attacking me saying I should have known all about it. Well, I didn't. My job is not to have exhaustive knowledge of every little detail reported on this board. Christ...if I tried to achieve that, I would have burned out from this sick shit in the first two months! Hundreds and hundreds of sick, evil assholes have been documented here. I make sure posts follow the rules, and dig deeper into those that don't pass the smell test. I don't read deeply on most subjects because this is a marathon through Hell! The fact that you expect that from me and are now trying to weaponize it as evidence I'm a bad mod just blows my mind. That is exactly the argument Esoteric always uses to attack me.

What. The. Fuck.

After you decided to jump on this thread and publicly accuse the entire rest of the mod team of being corrupted by "Argosciv bootlicking", I felt I had no choice but to address that claim publicly with my findings regarding whether Argo is dangerous to research or researchers here. I did it in an objective, rational way. I linked to what I had found.

You didn't even have the grace to read what I wrote. You had a tantrum that I dared to disagree with you. And then, instead of behaving like an adult, you ragequit and pinged everyone you could think of to your outburst. Justify it however you want, but you acted in a mean, vindictive manner with zero regard for the consequences.

You never once questioned you might be wrong.

You never considered anyone's point of view but your own.

You never once stopped to consider you were becoming a tool of the shills.

And it's not just about argosciv. You behaved in the same way when you imagined I was trying to defend an accused pedo a few weeks ago. It was complete shit.

No sooner had we put a stop to the lies and smears of ES and his crew, than YOU, a mod who should remain professional and objective, picked up their campaign yourself and continued it, in this very thread. Claiming you were attacked by me. By srayzie.

You've been gaslit alright, but it hasn't been by me. You have been weaponized by the shills, just like Jem apparently was. You're doing their work for them. That amazes me.

srayzie ago

Attacked her. Wow.

think- ago

You asked me whether I wanted to split the mod team, or get the team being attacked by shills.

That was an attack, @srayzie. How do you think I felt reading this? After we were so close, and I always had your back, you insinuated I might have intended to harm the mod team? WTF?!

@Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @MolochHunter @shewhomustbeobeyed

srayzie ago

You asked me whether I wanted to split the mod team, or get the team being attacked by shills.

You aren’t dumb. Whether you did it out of anger or being emotional, you made Vindicator and Kevdude look bad. You used an old comment of mine for a reason. The mods already saw it. Argosciv already saw it. Therefore, showing an old argument between Argosciv and I, was for the users. You want their support. I can understand that. But, not at the expensive of others.

That was an attack, srayzie. How do you think I felt reading this? After we were so close, and I always had your back, you insinuated I might have intended to harm the mod team? WTF?!

How do you think I felt, when after I replied to you the other day, and did not attack you in any way, you responded with this shit piece twisting everything I said?

Vindicator didn’t go after you first. It started with you being rude publicly to Kevdude and then using my old comment while fighting with Argosciv that made Vindicator respond, because he was pinged when you quoted my comment. He stood up for himself. He couldn’t believe you were starting drama involving mods again publicly. So you resigned for the following reason...

Ok, Vin, that did it for me. I will step back as a mod, immediately.
That the allegations against Michael Aquino are 'not proven' is ridiculous. Maybe you would like to read the post HugoWeaving did some time ago as a starter.

You started it that day. You did it in the thread that you knew would cause a shit show to occur. You knew that you were painting us all in a bad light. When it came to posting my comment, you wanted to prove your point that “you were right” and Srayzie “changed.” You are playing victim like you were attacked, when the truth is that you threw us all under the bus publicly, which was a shitty thing to do, and you refuse to take responsibility for it.

I’ve tried being nice about it, I’ve tried sugar coating it so that I didn’t hurt your feelings. All you did was twist my words. So, I’m not sugar coating it anymore. I’ve had your back always too. You are the one that chose to walk away and look like the victim. Not us. We’ve tried on multiple occasions to talk to you. Just keep using manipulation by playing victim, and pinging your friends to this subverse, so that the shit show continues.

@Shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Crensch @Vindicator

srayzie ago

Oh and I always had your back as well

srayzie ago

You didn’t let me know that you were resigned, or that you DID resign, before. Ever even wrote that.

think- ago

@shewhomustbeobeyed: please see parent. Thank you.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Thank you for speaking my heart.

I'm gonna git U 4 making me cry, U claivoyant girl U

think- ago

xoxoxo

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I will do a post about the case.

Please do.

Vindicator ago

I will do a post about the case.

That would be good. A link to the CID report would be good, as well. If we are ever going to prevail over the misinformation narrative pushers, we have to source stuff...over and over if necessary.

think- ago

A link to the CID report would be good

My laptop went down yesterday. :-( Wasn't able to find the CID files, but the Court files confirming the results of the CID are online. Might take some time to write the post, will have some rl responsibilities.

I will ping you in after I will have submitted.

youllrememberme ago

no doubt in my mind that it connects back to YRM and co.

I had nothing to do with that thread, nor do I have a "co." here other than my cousin and her husband and they are none of the people mentioned. Her husband doesn't even really post here, he's a chan guy. I found out about @think- resigning through that thread and made one comment https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15690884 You're probably right about both sides being manipulated, but it's not me. This was the last post I made on the srayzie subject.. https://voat.co/v/QRV/2893326 That other shit isn't my style, I would have quoted the accusations in the post body and left links with the quotes for an archive.

think- ago

Now, you finally see the truth. Just know they will brigade me for commenting out of anon. It's worth it to me.

Ok, @youllrememberme, since we all met here in this cozy corner of the internet, I will just tell you this:

I thought it was totally pathetic that you came out of the woodwork in no time, after I had resigned.

This is what you wrote (per your link above):

Now, you finally see the truth.

I think it is shitty that you turned up in order to instrumentalize my conflict with @Vindicator and @srayzie.

This was a specific argument with @Vindicator, @srayzie and me. You don't know the background story, and it's none of your business. It's also pathetic that you think because I have had an argument with them, that I will chime in bitching about them, or might be on your side. You can just fuck off.

They were both my closest friends on Voat. I can cherish our friendship looking back, even though I might be angry now. It's not my style to paint people in a bad light as 'muh evil people', only because I have a specific conflict with them.

I still think it's awesome how @srayzie created and maintains v/GreatAwakening, although I'm not even a Q follower. I still think @Vindicator has great traits, and I miss him.

Again: I'm not interested to be used in your smear campaign. What you have been doing is disgusting, and infantile. Suggesting they brigade you is pathetic.

Focus on your own work, and stop this shitshow. Behave like an adult, not like a juvenile troll. FFS.

@kevdude @Crensch @Shizy

Just know they will brigade me for commenting out of anon. It's worth it to me.

youllrememberme ago

Relax, I haven't posted anything about srayzie in almost a month. I saw the thread in QRV, thought you may have woke up. Apparently it was just a domestic disturbance. Don't get your panties all bunched up over it.

I'll continue to call out shills reguardless of how juvenile you think it is. People are being manipulated here and most are sick of the good alt bad alt bullshit that sryazie admitted to having knowledge of in a DM to me.

srayzie ago

Relax, I haven't posted anything about srayzie in almost a month

That’s because every time you do, you’re called out. You’re learning,

youllrememberme ago

LOL you'll never make me obey with your bullshit lies.

You're Ian, you're thisistotallynotme, you're nothereforpizza

Next thing you know you'll be calling me amalek. You've been fully exposed for who you really are, it's just boring dancing around in circles with you, so I've moved on.

srayzie ago

Thank you

Shizy ago

Awwww, think-!!!

think- ago

@Shizy: please see parent above, thanks.

srayzie ago

Let’s not forget about your @thisistotallynotme alt. Or, is that your cousin?

That other shit isn’t my style

You are one of the biggest pieces of shit on Voat. You play many different roles, including a concerned Q patriot. So your STYLE changes to fit the narrative. Trying to cause division is what you live for. So, I wouldn’t doubt for a second that you would go make that post. You’ve done it time and time again.

@Kevdude @Argosciv @Shizy @MolochHunter

youllrememberme ago

I have no affiliation with thisistotallynotme. That person has actually insulted me through DM and I've spoke to other members about them trying to figure out who the fuck it is. My cousin is @beautifullyinvisible and her husband is @nowcomesthepain

You accuse me of being everyone and their mom, including Ian. Why do you always appeal to authority and ping everyone?

srayzie ago

I just ping the mods I work with. I’m a mod of pizzagate and ProtectVoat too. As you know, we have our eyes on you because of your lies and accusations against us GreatAwakening mods. We all know you here. So, you can cut the act. It’s not about authority. You call me a name fag/Fame fag all the time as well.

youllrememberme ago

I'm not acting and that's classic appealing to authority (ping power users to upvote you and downvote me to create a false consensus).

I didn't start that thread and I'm not any of the people you accuse me of being. You know the alts I have (youllrememberme2/youllrememberme3) and that they were only created because I was brigaded when I came back, after deleting ThePuppetShow. You are a famefag, your voat popularity means the world to you. It's really kinda sad.

MolochHunter ago

douchebag. If one person is hoodwinking users in a sub, of course it stands to reason that other mods get pinged in to be appraised of the glowinthedark niggerfaggot fuckery. @Srayzie would be NEGLECTING her duty NOT to ping us in

MolochHunter ago

now list me Srayzie's actual alts, and provide an examples where she's used them for nefarious deceptions

because your list is as long as my fucking ARM on that score, pal

youllrememberme ago

I have 2 alts, youllrememberme2 and youllrememberme3. I only have them because I was brigaded by sbbh when I first came back to voat. Don't make shit up to push your narrative. I sometimes use youllrememberme2 when I post out of anon because srayzie like to make up bullshit to get people to brigade me. Like, I'm Ian or thisistotallynotme or nothereforpizza. I'm not any of those people, so, you must have alligator arms, "pal".

Explain how arguing with yourself on an alt is "necessary" as srayzie states. I'll wait.

srayzie ago

I’ve never vote brigaded. We don’t ping each other for that reason. That is your assumption. I can’t help the fact that you exaggerate everything and feel intimidated by mods, or by people who are not anonymous. You aren’t anonymous now. You weren’t before. You just want to fight. Get a life.

Everything you accuse me of, is only showing your weaknesses. Youre showing the things that cause you to feel inferior. Your accusations reflect your low self esteem issues. You especially go after me and Shizy. It appears that you have self esteem issues when it comes to females as well. We can’t help that you have issues. Sorry you’re struggling bro. @Shizy @Kevdude

Shizy ago

Check his "cousins" accounts. Very strange. Maybe they're more of his alts since the last time u/BeautifullyInvisible posted was to give him an assist when he was fighting with Cheesebooger months ago.

@agrosciv

argosciv ago

Oh holy fucking shit...

You have no idea how significant this is... thank you for pointing this out.

@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude @srayzie @MadWorld

argosciv ago

Sorry, just seeing this now, you typo'd my username lol.

Noted.

(Still waking up on this end)

Shizy ago

Damn it!!! You name makes me feel dyslexic!

argosciv ago

Hahaha, sorreh!

<3

srayzie ago

Yeah. Who’s going to out there cousin? If I were his cousin, I would tell him to never tell a soul that we shared genes. 😂

NOMOCHOMO ago

Yep. I told her she could respond to me in private if she wanted.

But I did so publicly, because I'm forthright. Also I'm not going to change my behavior to avoid "the patterns" your shroom-addled, apophenic, mind identifies as "following" ES

@Argosciv, on the other hand, got blasted by @crensch when you

"PMd [him] this:

as it makes you and that retarded judaeo-christian-cunt srayzie

... after I [crensch] told him specifically NOT to do so, and to take his communication to the public forum.

(https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/2682459)

So what the fuck was that dude? Were you, Argosciv, "grooming/manipulating" Crensch by PMing him? Are you "following the same patterns as ES" ?

P.S. if you're going to reference a comment I made 2 hours ago (https://voat.co/v/Lampshadematerial/2934223/15796204) but still not respond to the false narrative I caught you spinning 7 hours ago (https://voat.co/v/Lampshadematerial/2934223/15792462) it kinda proves you're a guilty, sneaky P.o.S.

P.P.S. I tag you/ping you in every accusation I make.

You post an archive (so I don't get a ping) like a scared bitch with his tail in between his legs.

Are you afraid I'll keep catching you lying? After accidentally pinging me, are you now afraid to write out my full screenname?

@vindicator @think- @kevdude @shizy @srayzie

argosciv ago

Oh I'm just letting you run your mouth as much as you want.

Letting you consistently behave like ES.

Letting you consistently rely on an old narrative that is now completely obsolete - but, you already know it's obsolete, right?

You can see the indicators, right?

Of course you can, that's why you keep spamming it in the hope that people unfamiliar with what's happened since, will see it and think it's valid.

That's why you also keep pinging think- in the hopes to rile her up with the past - whoops, smells like ES/TtT-styled grooming/manipulation.

NOMOCHOMO ago

A. No response to Private Messaging users in the same way you accuse others.

B. Specious, Substanceless, Repetition: hurrrdurrr "[insert name] acts like ES"; hurrdurrr "you're pushing a narrative", hurrrdurrr "responding to a comment is grooming/manipulation"

And then you post a screenshot proving you've intentionally avoided responding to the lie I caught you pushing (stosh21 is stevendkelley)

https://voat.co/v/Lampshadematerial/2934223/15796796

https://files.catbox.moe/jn4bf4.jpg

I wish I could take credit for the HEADSHOT, but you pulled the trigger yourself.

Is that a winky face or a black eye?

Goodnight sweet prince.

Edit: I'm pinging Mods and former Mods...something you will never be.

argosciv ago

D'aww, look at you getting all emotional and trying to spin.

Something troubling you?

Is it that I ignored your comment, or that you're finally starting to realize how obsolete your narrative is?

Or are you upset to realize I'm not downvoting anyone here and even upvoted someone who said something harsh to me?

All of the above?

youllrememberme ago

I’ve never vote brigaded. We don’t ping each other for that reason. That is your assumption.

The proof is in the voting behavior everytime you do it, it's not an assumption, it's fact.

You aren’t anonymous now. You weren’t before. You just want to fight. Get a life.

You came here to pick a fight when I was defending myself, to someone else, from your bullshit. I come out of anon to prove a point, thanks for playing.

Your accusations reflect your low self esteem issues. You especially go after me and Shizy. It appears that you have self esteem issues when it comes to females as well. We can’t help that you have issues. Sorry you’re struggling bro.

lol I don't think mentioned shizy since I agreed with Ian that you act like the same person. If I did it's because you pinged her and she commented. Not struggling at all, it's you pinging all your internet buddies for confirmation and consensus cracking. You're horrible at deflecting.

youllrememberme ago

Your assumption is wrong, that thread was how I found out about the drama in the ES thread. The only threads I've posted about srayzie's shilling are the ones I've admitted to. I'm not the only person on Voat that see there's a problem there. Let's not forget that I was one of the first people to expose ES and his alt rarepeaks. Srayzie defended him in the thread I created too, that was one of the first things that set off alarm bells for me. She was so sure he wasn't donkey because she knows who he really is. I'm pretty sure I know now too. We won't get into that, though. I'm just here to tell you I didn't create that thread. Merry Christmas btw.

think- ago

Let's not forget that I was one of the first people to expose ES and his alt rarepeaks.

When exactly was that? Because it was me who discovered that rarepeeks is his alt, after sifting through old threads.

Have a link to back up your claim?

youllrememberme ago

It was a long time ago and it wasn't anything formal, it was just a comment talking shit about how he created rarepeeks after licking donkeys taint for the auralsects name and acting like he was the only one who got it. You may have beat me to that one, not a big deal. Here's one of the original threads of me calling out ES/Donkey though. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2516810 and here's me exposing one of his other alts https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2516810/12585296/10#12585296

The nail in the coffin is when auralsects responded for ES here.. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2512977/12559995

think- ago

@argosciv, you write in your OP:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2930725/15730101/4/ | https://archive.is/Z2itM (Here we see u/carmencita ONCE AGAIN raising the topic of StCharles Seminary

This is what Carmencita wrote:

[–] carmencita -1 points (+0|-1) 2 days ago

OMG. I am so sorry. Thank you for your courage for even being able to read this stuff. @StcarlesSeminary is an SRA Victim. A family cult. Someone I know almost sent their Child to Duke and I sent her some info and she mixed it. You sure have some background to deal with You are a Saint really. God Bless You +

Apart from what you in general might think about @carmencita, what is your problem with mentioning the user @Stcharlesseminary, and/or Satanic Ritual Abuse? Thanks.

@Vindicator @MolochHunter @EricKaliberhall

think- ago

@Crensch @kevdude: please see parent. Thank you.

argosciv ago

Oh hey, look who showed up under 30 minutes after NHFP's response. Surely just a coincidence...

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2930434/15763107/ | https://archive.is/6lrgi

Shizy ago

Is it the 26th already?

argosciv ago

In timezones UTC 3 and greater, lol.

Of course, I'm sure their excuse will be that I'm not on "ignore" xD

NotHereForPizza ago

Teehee I see I'm getting to you.

Merry christmas, faggot. Suck any tranny dick today?

argosciv ago

Also, wasn't it that user / group who admitted to @srayzie, that they edit/delete their comments to make responses look off-topic?

srayzie ago

Yes. ElectroLumus did that. His alts do it here all the time still

maurice ago

Don't know who this agent smith is or why he wants to implicate me in his psychosis.

Here is all I said on that thread.

[–] maurice 0 points (+1|-1) 2 days ago

Southpark has been doing this kind of stuff for many years. If someone didn't allow them to, do you think they would still be on air? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2930725

.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................

That being said, why does https://voat.co/u/argosciv have the flag of Vlad the Impaler as his profile pic? Mosue over the profile image and right click, do a google search of the profile image, you're see it is Vlad's standard.

Why does this agent smith quote old ass greek stories, like so many of the alphagetti agencies that protect these elite families?

“ The eyes of Argus are always watching... ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_Panoptes

Why does this agent smith use the user name argosciv This came up on a google search of his user name. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/027311779390053E

Here is another connection to his name, this site https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=410523519

Is this user the author named, merrick? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_(Galloway)

If these google searches are accurate and this is this user, he is A)masonic, B) an agent for some alphagetti agency, C) possibly works for Spacecraft Interactions Branch, Phillips Laboratory, Hanscom AFB, MA 01731, U.S.A. ∗∗ Radex Inc., Bedford, MA 01730, U.S.A.

I'm likely wrong on most accounts of this, no one would be this stupid to use such a user name directly connecting them to their own work...........would they?

I'm nobody and do not wish to be drawn into this persons psychosis.

argosciv ago

An interesting response. Here's the only one I need to give you:

  • Attempting to enforce the idea that I'm psychotic, through repetition of the terms "psychotic" and "agent smith". Incidentally a tactic used by disinfo pushers, clandestine agencies(which you're also trying to imply that I'm connected to) and MSM, when trying to attack someone they deem a threat to their narrative.
  • Trying to associate my username/bio with Greek stories and the elite, ignoring or otherwise totally unaware of why I actually chose it.
  • Trying to suggest that my username is connected to mentions of it outside of Voat, which I can assure you is a complete misfire. Of course, it's hard to prove this and that's surely something being counted upon.
  • Trying to suggest, using the above, that I'm "masonic" and trying to use my profile avatar to paint both myself and Vlad III Dracula as a boogeyman.

Pretty much the exact same MO as the likes of corrupt clandestine agencies, TtT, EYJP and alt-reliant, proven larper, manipulator and birgader, ES.

Also doesn't address the Elephant in the room RE: SouthPark, uses deflection/projection to avoid doing so.

maurice ago

Yea, Well, I've been annoyed by clandestine pricks most my life. I learned to think like them.

Nice way to not acknowledge why you want to drag me into this crap. You seen all I said about Southpark. If people didn't want them saying what they do, they wouldn't be on the air still. So, why try to tie me into the rest of this nonsense?

argosciv ago

Oh look, they edited their reply to remove all of their accusations. Funny that.

@Vindicator, @Crensch, @srayzie, @kevdude, @MolochHunter

maurice ago

Yeah, they did. I figured it was bad taste, I knew you could still see the crap. Want me to repost it all?

think- ago

I just noticed myself that he was really quick replying to @shewhomustbeobeyed - only about an hour after I had resigned I think. I learned it when I looked at @shewhomustbeobeyed's comment history a day later.

And that comment was deep in @Crensch's ES thread.

@MolochHunter @EricKaliberhall @Vindicator

3141592653 ago

You will be missed. Thanks for all your good work.

think- ago

Kindly welcome, @3141592653. I will stay on the board, and will do more submissions. So - see you soon!

3141592653 ago

Good to hear, @think-

think- ago

I just stumbled upon this when looking at @MolochHunter's comment history.

Maybe you should have had the grace to at least ping the users addressed in your OP.

@3141592653 @maurice

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @kevdude

3141592653 ago

Thanks

maurice ago

Thank you.

MolochHunter ago

very forensic, my man, kudos

argosciv ago

Thanks. It's going to get a bit more interesting when I follow up again lol.

Kinda funny seeing NOMO rush in to preserve their narrative(deflecting away from their tactics and/or ignorance RE: SouthPark), without properly addressing the content(selective reply to @shewhomustbeobeyed, an attempt at division* - which he tried to project onto me - and the timing thereof in contrast to the anon attempt at perpetuating division over in v/QRV) - nevermind parroting the usual suspects over in the first follow up submission and here in this one.

* and/or grooming/manipulation.

@Crensch @kevdude @srayzie @Vindicator

NOMOCHOMO ago

Sumner Redstone is a Jew btw, his money produces and broadcasts Southpark.

Why are you defending a Jew on a forum called "lampshadematerial"

http://www.nndb.com/people/631/000024559/

NOMOCHOMO ago

So you think Michael Aquino is innocent...

And you attack me on Christmas....because I replied to @shewhomustbeobeyed and posted about Southpark?

Am I getting your "thesis" right?

I'm trying to be charitable here, and not denounce you and curse you out given the amazing gift God sent us in Jesus Christ.

But I fail to see what I've said that is "suspicious".

And you are being a very hateful and negative person on a joyous day.

We may disagree. But you are the one seeking division.

P.S. my Southpark post clearly is in context of MTV/Viacom, a company that employed PROLIFIC PEDO Dan Schneider, has repeatedly used Satanic imagery in their advertising, and is owned by a former US Military PsyOp officer (Sumner Redstone)

Were the Simpsons and Family Guy also blowing the whistle? Or normalizing? It's a fair question and worthy of discussion

argosciv ago

And you found this submission so quickly, how?

  • Did someone tell you about it?
  • Are you using searchvoat to stalk me despite us never conversing(to my recollection)?
  • Are you stalking my submission history?
  • Are you desperately monitoring @Crensch's thread about ES, on Christmas?

You can bet your arse I've kept an eye out for your fuckery. Attempting to use old talking points(and taking them out of context, as usual) which you're capitalizing on to groom/manipulate @shewhomustbeobeyed via selective replying, won't change a thing. Nevermind the "Oh how could you be so mean on Christmas" whining, if Christmas is so important to you, what are you even doing here, looking out for such a thread?

Your agenda is been clear to me. This is the only reply I need to give you, regardless of any answers you may give - readers can determine the rest for themselves.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Hey Retard.

You pinged me.

So I saw it immedately

MolochHunter ago

great work. you really got @argosciv on that one

Now, are you going to actually address the evidence of inexplicable activity like pinging in long dormant accounts like Davidrkelley ?

because an ignorant observer might postulate that you'd burnt some primary alts and needed to raise the CCP of other alts over the voat function unlocking thresholds

NOMOCHOMO ago

...Really MH?

You're asking why I pinged davidrkelley....the ORIGINAL AUTHOR of the Getty bunkers claim?

The dude whose statements were the basis of the aformentioned post?

I think that's self explanatory.

But just in case...

Though dormant, I'm hoping if the dude ever checks his account he might provide some evidence of being contracted by CIA and NSA, which he has never substantiated.

Ignorant observer

Lol. You just burned yourself

MolochHunter ago

how would you know he even had a voat account ?

NOMOCHOMO ago

  1. Because I searchvoated "getty museum"

  2. I found a relevant post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/

  3. I read all the comments and saw that "stevendkelley" had commented on it

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7832654

P.S. I also said I didn't know if the username was legit, and noted that he only had one comment.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2925239/15681322

Anymore questions?

think- ago

Yes - how did you learn that I resigned? I didn't ping you to my comment I left when I resigned.

@MolochHunter @EricKaliberhall @Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude

NOMOCHOMO ago

Because I keep up with the giant post that you Mods have kept stickied at the top of the forum. Are we peons not meant to read it?

I pay special attention to it since I have been wrongly lumped into the "ES brigade" and have been previously accused/pinged to it when @Crensch copy pasted:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15560738

More recently, I was informed I was tagged by TrustTheTruth beyond the ping limit, I continued to follow that thread which is where/how I discovered @think- resigned.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15636715

@shewhomustbeobeyed (tagging you since you wanted to know)

@kevdude (tagging you just FTR)

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Thank you for this explanation.

NOMOCHOMO ago

You're welcome.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I think I'd like an answer to that question as well. Let me know if you get one will you?

think- ago

Yes, I will. ;-)

argosciv ago

I'd also like to know why NOMO chose to reply to you in such a manner, given the time since your comment he chose - rather than replying in the relevant comment chain or making their own top-level comment.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Why did I reply to @SheWhoMustBeObeyed? Because I shared her sentiments, and @think- 's resignation perfectly proved her point.

SWMBO's comment: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15676843

I try so very hard to not interfere with the battles that occur here, but dammit this one has me shattered, focus is being lost, resources are being wasted and energy is being pissed up a rope."

Why didn't reply in the "relevant comment chain"? Because I wasn't going to get in the middle of a battle that had nothing to do with me.

argosciv ago

Okay, sure, I'll give you another response.

TIL that mention users via the u/ method, does result in a ping, which lends validity to your retort earlier.

Why did I reply to @SheWhoMustBeObeyed? Because I shared her sentiments

The comment you selectively replied to, had nothing to do with think- and you know it.

Why didn't reply in the "relevant comment chain"? Because I wasn't going to get in the middle of a battle that had nothing to do with me.

So you decided to get in SWMBO's ear and perpetuate division, because you didn't want to get in the middle of something that has nothing to do with you? You wanted to just niggle away in the sidelines about something which has nothing to do with you, like whoever it was that anonymously posted a divisive crosslink over in v/QRV? Rightio then.

NOMOCHOMO ago

A. You're the one who prompted a mod to resign....That's divisive...

...I pointed out she resigned, thus agreeing "focus is being lost, resources are being wasted and energy is being pissed up a rope."

I am seconding SWMBO, calling for unity, and encouraging focus on research not infighting.

TLDR: I am trying to unify. You are promoting division

B. You just said @maurice is

trying to suggest that my username is connected to mentions of it outside of Voat, which I can assure you is a complete misfire. Of course, it's hard to prove this and that's surely something being counted upon.

While at the same time YOU are trying to associate me with

whoever it was that anonymously posted a divisive crosslink over in v/QRV?

Trying to link me to an anonymous QRV poster is even more specious than connecting internet mentions of your username.

TLDR: YOUR LOGIC IS INCONSISTENT and you are grasping at straws.

argosciv ago

A. You're the one who prompted a mod to resign....That's divisive...

No, I'm not - nor were any of the other mods. But you continue to try to spin it that way and project, regardless of your own blatantly divisive and sly reply to a ~1.4 day old comment - which does indeed match the MO of someone running over to perpetuate the division/conflict over in v/QRV.

Again parroting the same talking points/narrative as ES.

I am trying to unify. You are promoting division

By seeking to get in the ear of someone who expressed dismay over the state of affairs, capitalizing on the situation to make them feel worse and enforce the notion that everyone is divided?

Rightio.

B.

Partially addressed above.

YOUR LOGIC IS INCONSISTENT

Oh noes, bolded all-caps!

Do you mean like how the situation does involve you, but then it has nothing to do with you?

NOMOCHOMO ago

Proof @argosciv prompted @think- to resign. (In her own words)

A. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15686139

B. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15688028

C. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15688513

You didnt respond to my points. You just repeat yours and boomerang mine back at me.. Like a schoolchild "I know you are but what am I"

By seeking to get in the ear of someone who expressed dismay over the state of affairs, capitalizing on the situation to make them feel worse and enforce the notion that everyone is divided?

Nope. I'm saying the infighting must stop. And demonstrating exactly what encouraging infighting has led to... neglecting research, wasting time defending ourselves from spurious claims, the resignation of posters, and now, a moderator quitting.

The only good thing you've done is create a separate forum for accusations of pgate shilling and brigading.

Even though you're accusing me, I appreciate that you haven't crowded the main forum with this.

However, I'm not replying to you anymore because you demonstrate repeated dishonesty. You are trying to smear.

However, If any other users or mods have concerns about me or my character, I will be happy to defend myself.

Merry Christmas to all. And to all a Good Night.

srayzie ago

@Think- is a grown woman. She chose to resign all on her own.

argosciv ago

Again trying to spin it as if I prompted anyone to do anything. I have no control over anyone's behavior and you know that.

Given that you keep harping on this, pushing a narrative and the way you sought out SWMBO's reply, it's very clear that you are not trying to end the infighting, but rather perpetuate it while trying to disguise your intent.

The only good thing you've done is create a separate forum for accusations of pgate shilling and brigading.

Even though you're accusing me, I appreciate that you haven't crowded the main forum with this.

Sucking up to me, like you have to @Vindicator - following, again, the same patterns as ES*, does not make you seem any more well-intentioned.

* Ironically enough, that was a thread by u/ThePuppetShow who would eventually go on to, as youllrememeberme, try to get me blamed for being them, by ES, so that they could both drag me into the middle of a fake argument, hoping I would buddy-up with YRM so that they could resume trying to manipulate me via PM - as ES did when he, along with VieBleu, tried to rally me against the mods of v/pizzagate - but you already know all that.

However, I'm not replying to you anymore because you demonstrate repeated dishonesty. You are trying to smear.

Project moar. Or don't; by all means, hush.