9 months ago I asked argosciv very nicely to explain his words to me. I explained to him that his words were ambiguous and by and large meaningless. I tried to ask specific questions in order to make things easier on him.
There wasn't even an ounce of effort on his part to clarify.
Here's a pizzagatewhatever post defining words for us in an attempt to befuddle the unwary and get them to go along with his mind gymnastics about a place called Racine, Wisconsin. Just scroll over it quick. He gives you the wikipedia link for Wisconsin, and quotes something completely irrelevant. Then Nicaragua. Then Hurricane names. He puts in bold the words "Joseph and Mary".
In submission 2, he STILL won't touch directly on Racine, ostensibly the whole point of both of these submissions.
Links to wikipedia for Slavery in the US, Cuban revolution, Nicaraguan revolution, mentions of Kurt Cobain, Jimmy Hoffa, Emerson Electric, Queen Victoria, 1905 Russian Revolution...
And he who he pings is rather telling given the list of users attacking the mods recently.
Part 3
Lindbergh kidnapping. Really. Just list out all kinds of events without ANYTHING but a wikipedia excerpt and link.
Part 4
Not Another Teen Movie Jaime PRESSLY plays Priscilla in the Movie. In real life Priscilla was the Wife of Elvis PRESLEY Another Tin In IIDK.
WOW. SO AMAZING.
I was discussing the Vegas shooting and the broader connections, with a very close friend... he, in jest, said, "What happens in vegas, stays in vegas"
and
my friend is very much like me and has a different way of having obtained similar knowledge(I will reveal no more), he is not always sure why he says what he says but he has proven vital at times & always delivers abstractly.
Un. Fucking. Real.
So let me connect the dots of this piece of shit submission for you all.
Vegas shooting(live coverage thread) - comment RE: Not Another Teen Movie -> "Jaime PRESSLY plays Priscilla in the Movie" -> "Priscilla was the Wife of Elvis PRESLEY" -> "I was discussing the Vegas shooting and the broader connections, with a very close friend... he, in jest, said, "What happens in vegas, stays in vegas"" -> Retard friend mentions "Shep" -> "On October 3, 1945, Elvis Presley sang "Old Shep" at age ten for his first public performance" -> "My friend, also, in conversation mentioned, "Ford", again I forget why, sorry." -> Wikipedia bullshit on HENRY FORD -> Wikipedia bullshit on WILLIAM FORD -> "Again, no word of a lie, my friend and I had also briefly touched on the Irish potato famine..." -> OMG THEY MENTIONED POTATOES -> Something about Idaho, Utah or Wisconsin -> OH SHIT, ANOTHER QUESTION TO ANSWER, "Is there a relation to be found via "Ford", perhaps related to Chicago mafia, prohibition, Jimmy Hoffa, Ed Gein, Manson Family, etc?" -> Going back to Jaime Pressly, though... -> Sidenote: Las Vegas, Elvis Impersonators... weddings??? -> Vegas shooting.
That's ONE submission in his "series".
Here he is claiming anti-Satanist rhetoric HELPS Scientologists and even more nefarious parties. I asked him to prove his claim.
Not only did he not prove his claim, but he didn't prove any link at all between Satanists or scientologists. He claims it will take "pages" of research to respond to the simple request above.
I liked where he PMd me this:
as it makes you and that retarded judaeo-christian-cunt srayzie
... after I told him specifically NOT to do so, and to take his communication to the public forum. I can kind of see why @srayzie is unlikely to let up on him - I can kind of see why others might not take kindly to him, either.
Did he really just ping KKWR? Nutcase.
In my attempts to find something actually useful or good, I found that he used a reverse image search (Should be standard operating procedure here, is it not?) to debunk this. And other than that, he's been listing the faggots attacking mods over the Jem777 crap, and seems to be on the correct side there. It's only fair I look for and mention what good I did find.
I fail to see why this thing with almost no redeeming qualities and a great deal of qualities that are, at best, useless, is not treated like the fecal matter it is.
Doesn't he drink blood or some shit? With what PG has been researching, I can't see his justifications for that as anything but an attempt to shove the narrative back around the ritualistic drinking of blood that supposedly happens. Attempting to create a sacred cow by arguing that it's totally ok to drink blood.
I don't have the links to all of that, but I recall seeing him mention it specifically because he doesn't want everyone talking bad about people that drink blood. What the everloving fuck is that?
Mock the little parasitic faggot or don't, but I'm going to need a bit more in the way of justification before I turn this particular username into a sacred cow for myself. I saw the justification that we have more pressing enemies to fight, but I can and will fight everyone at the same time, and I'll win.
Vindi, you can run your mod team how you like, but if that's a sticking point for you, I'll make sure I rip the faggot to shreds every time he decides to drink his adrenochrome. I'm not terribly fond of the idea of curtailing comments by mods, but I haven't heard your justification for that.
If that is the path forward, the other mods can have their justice boners vicariously through my responses to argosciv, if they choose to continue being mods with such a limitation.
Just my .02, and it's about time argo had his very own submission that can be searched for on searchvoat anyway.
@srayzie @think- @EricKaliberhall @shizy
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EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Well he's a real shill, that's for sure, and he's attacked me on numerous occasions for the past two years. I didn't gather my proof, but any time I see his name I expect B.S. to follow.
argosciv ago
Yes, you've been nice to me in the past & I very much appreciated it. Despite everything of late, I still appreciate how you conduct yourself here on voat - even when the not-so-nice stuff is directed at me.
The reason I neglected to put in effort there at that time, was because my research was indeed in utter disarray and I needed to lay it out - if not for others, for myself to be able to go back and review various aspects so that I can attempt to clarify and add a lot more at a later stage.
^ Leads in to the next part here, regarding the deplorable state of my earliest entries: (I'll spare quoting this entire section to save space)
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that many of the earliest entries are an abhorrent mess. I'm not proud of that.
At the time of my earliest entries, I was still figuring out the markdown syntax and working on how to make things easier to read and have continued to try to refine my presentation along the way. I was also trying to cram way too much into the 10k character limit, without considering the option of letting the research bleed into extra comments(I also was not drafting my entries in .txt documents, having switched to doing so and bleeding into comments later on in the series).
That's my bad for assuming that others would have the time to look at the cramming and be able to extrapolate exactly what I was looking at.
As for the suspicious pings, well, again this was early days for me in terms of becoming an active poster & I truly had no idea who could or could not be trusted. Again, as time has passed, I have also tried to refine my pings while determining who can and cannot be trusted - I'm fallible and fucked up a few times in the process of elimination, but, I've been willing to cut people from my pings list as suspicions arise.
I understand how suspicious many of those pings are and am even embarrassed/angered that I ever trusted some of those people & otherwise neglected to take the time to do history checks in the early days. I put energy, time and trust into people who fooled me and did not otherwise deserve it; for that, I am sorry.
Getting back to the entries you listed, though:
[0. Root of Corruption: Touching on Racine, WI - Part 1 & 2]
This wasn't an attempt to befuddle at all, it was just a poor choice of presentation and a result of cramming - I was still trying to make sense of what I was reading and what the connections may or may not be(If I recall correctly, I spent a few nights going back and forth without properly taking notes, haphazardly dumping snippets without properly explaining). As it would turn out, Racine is not as strongly relevant as Wisconsin itself abroad; my research began to center more on Plainfield than Racine. Although some of what I garnered from Racine does hold some amount of relevance, I have indeed forgotten to put this into a more coherent context.
The reason the extra stuff was included(Hurricanes, Nicaragua, Russia, historical events, etc) was because from Racine, my research did jump over to these subjects in a massive chain(unfortunately, some of the relevance has been forgotten and left to collect dust - some things may no longer be relevant even). It was inappropriate to just slap the links down in this manner, which I have come to realize over my time here.
[1. Root of Corruption - Part 3: Charles Augustus Lindbergh; Lindbergh kidnapping]
As explained at the bottom of this entry, this is when I decided on a new/cleaner title format due to the research going much broader and no longer being specifically about Wisconsin(Racine or even Plainfield) alone.
That's no acceptable excuse for how short and effectively empty this entry was at the time, but, I did come back to the subject very strongly after "Part 13", in the following:
[2. Root of Corruption - Annex: Addendum RE: #WHQOPSI: Jim Carrey]
Where I discussed in comment 8/9, in relation to the Lindbergh kidnapping, potential Freemason corruption and curiosities/links with regards to timing, locations and events involving Scientology, NXIVM, George Soros, Michael Avenatti & Andy Warhol - to name a few.
There's more coming on the Warhol link in my upcoming entry which has been severely delayed due to the Jem777 situation (I have very much wanted to get back to this work, rather than get involved with the shit storm).
[3. Root of Corruption - Part 4: The "Manson-Presley-Ford" Case]
This one is another utter mess and without wishing to excuse it, again it is a result of cramming and haphazard dumping due to neglecting to properly take notes and organize the information into a draft - what also went wrong with this entry, was that at the time of writing/posting, I did not realize just how much I was working with.
Even looking over it as I write this, I've noticed more common ground that it has with later entries.
With regards to the friend I mentioned: (Note that this person is not at all someone here on voat, they've never read my research, I simply discuss a wide range of topics with him)
Me:
I don't think he'd be too upset with my explaining some of what makes his mind tick in relation to the above;
He has been an insomniac his entire life & as such, has spent countless hours awake in the dark(thus conscious during biological-processes that should instead occur while dreaming) thinking on a lot of things with respect to 'the big picture'.
You:
He's not even remotely retarded. It was in appropriate for me to use this word with regards to srayzie and for that I'm sorry, but, it is just as inappropriate for you to say this about someone you've had zero interaction with. I understand that you're not happy with how I referenced the conversation I had with him regarding part 4, but, my poor wording/presentation is not at all reflective of his intelligence.
That aside, the dot connections you put there, Crensch, are understandably sarcastic - I don't blame you for mocking the messy nature of the entry, but, to explain it:
-> [
Pressly| Pres[s]l[e]y | Presley[, Elvis] | "Old Shep" |"Shep"] <-What I was explaining here, is that when I considered Not Another Teen Movie, Marilyn Manson and Jamie Pressly - in combination with "Old Shep", which I came across when looking up "Shep" after being prompted by the conversation with my friend - I was reminded strongly by the surname, of Elvis Presley, due to their similarity. Elvis's death has always struck me as suspicious, but, at the time of Part 4, I had not yet begun to take Scientology into account...
It wasn't until recently that I actually came across Elvis's encounter with Scientologists: (Indeed, the Presley family has a few connections on this subject)
[4. http://web.archive.org/web/20180820134842/http://www.lermanet.com/cos/lisamarie.html]:
[5. https://pagesix.com/2017/03/12/lisa-marie-presley-did-not-rejoin-the-church-of-scientology/ | https://archive.is/1SZGQ#selection-1045.0-1049.236]:
[6. https://people.com/archive/cover-story-the-presley-inheritance-vol-39-no-8/ | https://archive.is/nMSVp]
[7. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4740460/priscilla-presley-elvis-reports-quit-scientology-denies/ | https://archive.is/HiI4e]
Continued in reply to this comment...
argosciv ago
Explanation of part 4 continued:
"Ford"
At the initial writing and posting of part 4, I was not sure exactly what, if any, relevance would be found - hence presenting the question,
The question was open to anyone who might know more or have the time to look into it.
I had intended to come back to the subject(s) myself, however, reading back over it in the 24 minutes after posting, something jumped out at me immediately, resulting in this comment; [3]:
What jumped out at me was that Henry Ford's mother, Mary, was born in Michigan to Belgian immigrants - with his father, William, being born in Ireland. Keeping in mind that I was not yet considering Scientology, Mary's Belgian ancestry reminded me of the Dutrox affair, hence the content of: Root of Corruption - Part 5: Beyond The Dutroux Affair: The Reality of Protected Child Abuse & Snuff Networks; Reviewing with 'new' eyes & Root of Corruption - Part 6: The "Dutroux-De Baets-Manson-Pres(s)ley-Joker-Ledger" Case.
Side note: The Warhol link will also touch on Batman...
From those entries onwards I began allowing my mind to open up a lot more to the more 'abstract' side of things, due to noticing very strange things happening in real-time response to my postings/research.
It would still be quite some time before Scientology would come to the foreground of my mind, but, on that subject I refer momentarily back to part 4 & the fact that William Ford was born in Ireland, Mary Ford in Michigan...
I'm not certain if the Irish potato famine or the Ford Motor Company & family are connected to Scientology, however, Ireland and Michigan are:
[2]:
Ireland:
Michigan:
Side note: Comment 9: Trump Tower fire | Warhol | NXIVM
With the above in mind:
[8. wiki: Elvis Presley]
When did Elvis Presley die? August 16, 1977 (aged 42) - in Memphis, Tennessee, U.S.[8]
[9. my reply to your asking me to prove my claim]:
[8]:
I have reason to suspect that Scientologists had a hand in the death of Elvis Presley and/or the 'cover up' of the causes thereof.
I suspect that they timed it in August so that people might blame it on Satanists if they ever thought to consider that he was murdered in some capacity over a prolonged period(perhaps having a connection to George Nichopoulos), rather than simply having died of cardiac-arrest relating to constipation caused by drug use.
Scientologists have kept their fingers deeply in his family's proverbial pocket prior to & ever since his death, despite him wanting nothing to do with them - remembering Priscilla Presley's ongoing involvement with Scientology.
Can I personally prove that Scientologists are involved in Elvis's death? No, because it's well & truly out of my hands. The pieces are there to warrant my suspicions, though; it is worth publicly imploring those in an appropriate position(eg: via an online forum where civilians investigate corruption), to investigate Scientology's proximity to him & his family before, during & after his death.
No. That implies:
A: Present tense.
and
B: That I collect it in copious amounts in a cup or something to that effect, ingesting it as though a beverage.
Both are, by themselves and in combination, incorrect and inaccurate portrayals not based on fact at all.
I have only ever consumed tiny amounts of blood from another person, a few times in my distant past. Obviously this will not sit well with most and contrary to accusations, I am not here to encourage others to do the same. I have also explained how any desirable effects from doing so, can be replicated without the need to consume blood.
I have absolutely not engaged in the sick extremes/crimes being investigated here and moreover, I do not condone said crimes or extremes.
@Crensch @Vindicator @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @srayzie
See comments context.
argosciv ago
Sorry for the delay, I swear I'm working on a detailed response right now.
In fact, I have to thank you again for this opportunity @Crensch. You've done me quite a favor - not sure if you intended on that, but, thanks.
cc: @srayzie @think- @EricKaliberhall @Vindicator
Crensch ago
I sincerely doubt anything I've done will ever help you make a single cogent argument. It's all up to you whether or not you set the walnut sauce down long enough to make a coherent post now and then.
argosciv ago
Damnit, it's going to take at least 2 comments, as the explanation(of part 4) requires presenting more supporting research.
I'm also explaining the early messiness in the process.
Shizy ago
Will part 4 be kept simple and to the point? Specifically will you be addressing crensch's question about your blood drinking?
Vindicator ago
I was not trying to curtail comments by mods. I was trying to refocus energy from useless shittalking onto whatever is really happening with the whole Jenny/Jem/Webb/Gritz death thing, which we still don't understand. Maybe that's stupid, but this is actually the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being responsible for someone else's death by an irrational crowd. After a week in which ES, AWS, argosciv and a number of the folks in the Jem threads all bitched to me about mods bullying users, it sounded to me like a new mod attack narrative forming which we didn't need to provide free ammunition to. I asked these guys to ignore each other, just as you suggested I ignore ES, which for the most part, I have.
This myth of me "running the mod team" is kind of silly. The only influence I have is whatever advice of mine they choose to take. I can't demod anyone, make them do anything, or control them in any way. I can lead by example, which I try to do, and in general, I personally don't patrol Comments and call people out for voicing opinions about research topics. I stick to the content of submissions. It was made abundantly clear to me by kevdude and you that Voat would not accept that kind of biased behavior from moderators in a big subverse like v/pizzagate. When I call people out, it is for baseless attacks on other users, doing things that damage the subverse, spreading false information, or trying to suppress other user's freedom of speech.
Crensch ago
I get it.
Can't feel good. They're obviously nutcases. Making that submission now.
The usual suspects complaining when SHTF.
Forgive me for not recalling the details here.
I wasn't really able to frame your words in any other way. I didn't know what your intentions were here. I consider this team YOUR mod team, as you work closely with them and I do not. I try to stay hands off with you more or less running things.
Any mod you don't want on the team will be removed.
Everyone looks up to you as the best mod PG can have, and likely the only one really capable of doing the job right.
Reasons matter. I don't think some of your reasoning was expressed to your mods, and they took things the wrong way. I could be wrong there, but I certainly didn't know about your position and thoughts before what I know now. I think I probably will not be the only one to think that way.
I now realize how hellacious this past week has been for you, and if I had known before writing this what I know now, I'd have worded things differently, or maybe this post wouldn't have been necessary right now.
Since I'm in the habit today of overstepping my bounds, I think everyone would be happier if you would share the load. Let the rest of us in on the what and why of your thought processes when SHTF for you. Don't just keep up the invincible superman act, because we're not going to understand the motivations behind your words. You have mods that really REALLY think the world of you want want to help. Lean on them.
Sorry for the textual backhand; I didn't realize you were having such a hard time, and nobody seemed to understand why you wanted them off Argosciv's back. What I perceived would happen wasn't going to be pretty, and SOMETHING had to shake loose.
That's no excuse, though, and it was wrong of me. Sorry, bud.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Dear Mr. @Crensch,
Would you please give your opinion of the data contained in this link, https://searchvoat.co/user/?user=argosciv
@Vindicator what say you?
Vindicator ago
That's kind of a cool metric page. Didn't know SearchVoat.co could do that.
What jumps out at me is that @argosciv posts the majority of his stuff to v/pizzagatewhatever -- unlike most pg researchers who don't fit with the ruleset very well and pretty much all shills who are deliberately trying to forum-slide v/pizzagate content with convoluted, difficult to vet shitposts.
think- ago
Well, he posts his satanist shit all over the threads on v/pizzagate, in comments, even uploading satanist music, claiming Michael Aquino, one of the most nefarious child raping satanists, is innocent, and no pedo, and the OTO is a total innocent organization.
And obviously he doesn't care whether he triggers SRA survivors.
So, at best, he is a pedo enabler, and a satanism pushing troll.
At worst, he was sent here to do exactly that by a satanist organization. OTO comes to mind.
@Crensch @srayzie @Shizy @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock
srayzie ago
What is OTO?
Shizy ago
It's what Alestair Crowley practiced. It's really sick and really evil.
think- ago
A satanist organization.
Crensch ago
Unsurprising.
Vindicator ago
Haha...didn't know that's what I was doing. I thought I WAS leaning on y'all for help. Did not realize I was not communicating clearly. I was attempting to. My bad.
No worries.
Crensch ago
@Vindicator
Sorry, bud. Didn't realize I didn't ping you here, completely unintentional.