9 months ago I asked argosciv very nicely to explain his words to me. I explained to him that his words were ambiguous and by and large meaningless. I tried to ask specific questions in order to make things easier on him.
There wasn't even an ounce of effort on his part to clarify.
Here's a pizzagatewhatever post defining words for us in an attempt to befuddle the unwary and get them to go along with his mind gymnastics about a place called Racine, Wisconsin. Just scroll over it quick. He gives you the wikipedia link for Wisconsin, and quotes something completely irrelevant. Then Nicaragua. Then Hurricane names. He puts in bold the words "Joseph and Mary".
In submission 2, he STILL won't touch directly on Racine, ostensibly the whole point of both of these submissions.
Links to wikipedia for Slavery in the US, Cuban revolution, Nicaraguan revolution, mentions of Kurt Cobain, Jimmy Hoffa, Emerson Electric, Queen Victoria, 1905 Russian Revolution...
And he who he pings is rather telling given the list of users attacking the mods recently.
Part 3
Lindbergh kidnapping. Really. Just list out all kinds of events without ANYTHING but a wikipedia excerpt and link.
Part 4
Not Another Teen Movie Jaime PRESSLY plays Priscilla in the Movie. In real life Priscilla was the Wife of Elvis PRESLEY Another Tin In IIDK.
WOW. SO AMAZING.
I was discussing the Vegas shooting and the broader connections, with a very close friend... he, in jest, said, "What happens in vegas, stays in vegas"
and
my friend is very much like me and has a different way of having obtained similar knowledge(I will reveal no more), he is not always sure why he says what he says but he has proven vital at times & always delivers abstractly.
Un. Fucking. Real.
So let me connect the dots of this piece of shit submission for you all.
Vegas shooting(live coverage thread) - comment RE: Not Another Teen Movie -> "Jaime PRESSLY plays Priscilla in the Movie" -> "Priscilla was the Wife of Elvis PRESLEY" -> "I was discussing the Vegas shooting and the broader connections, with a very close friend... he, in jest, said, "What happens in vegas, stays in vegas"" -> Retard friend mentions "Shep" -> "On October 3, 1945, Elvis Presley sang "Old Shep" at age ten for his first public performance" -> "My friend, also, in conversation mentioned, "Ford", again I forget why, sorry." -> Wikipedia bullshit on HENRY FORD -> Wikipedia bullshit on WILLIAM FORD -> "Again, no word of a lie, my friend and I had also briefly touched on the Irish potato famine..." -> OMG THEY MENTIONED POTATOES -> Something about Idaho, Utah or Wisconsin -> OH SHIT, ANOTHER QUESTION TO ANSWER, "Is there a relation to be found via "Ford", perhaps related to Chicago mafia, prohibition, Jimmy Hoffa, Ed Gein, Manson Family, etc?" -> Going back to Jaime Pressly, though... -> Sidenote: Las Vegas, Elvis Impersonators... weddings??? -> Vegas shooting.
That's ONE submission in his "series".
Here he is claiming anti-Satanist rhetoric HELPS Scientologists and even more nefarious parties. I asked him to prove his claim.
Not only did he not prove his claim, but he didn't prove any link at all between Satanists or scientologists. He claims it will take "pages" of research to respond to the simple request above.
I liked where he PMd me this:
as it makes you and that retarded judaeo-christian-cunt srayzie
... after I told him specifically NOT to do so, and to take his communication to the public forum. I can kind of see why @srayzie is unlikely to let up on him - I can kind of see why others might not take kindly to him, either.
Did he really just ping KKWR? Nutcase.
In my attempts to find something actually useful or good, I found that he used a reverse image search (Should be standard operating procedure here, is it not?) to debunk this. And other than that, he's been listing the faggots attacking mods over the Jem777 crap, and seems to be on the correct side there. It's only fair I look for and mention what good I did find.
I fail to see why this thing with almost no redeeming qualities and a great deal of qualities that are, at best, useless, is not treated like the fecal matter it is.
Doesn't he drink blood or some shit? With what PG has been researching, I can't see his justifications for that as anything but an attempt to shove the narrative back around the ritualistic drinking of blood that supposedly happens. Attempting to create a sacred cow by arguing that it's totally ok to drink blood.
I don't have the links to all of that, but I recall seeing him mention it specifically because he doesn't want everyone talking bad about people that drink blood. What the everloving fuck is that?
Mock the little parasitic faggot or don't, but I'm going to need a bit more in the way of justification before I turn this particular username into a sacred cow for myself. I saw the justification that we have more pressing enemies to fight, but I can and will fight everyone at the same time, and I'll win.
Vindi, you can run your mod team how you like, but if that's a sticking point for you, I'll make sure I rip the faggot to shreds every time he decides to drink his adrenochrome. I'm not terribly fond of the idea of curtailing comments by mods, but I haven't heard your justification for that.
If that is the path forward, the other mods can have their justice boners vicariously through my responses to argosciv, if they choose to continue being mods with such a limitation.
Just my .02, and it's about time argo had his very own submission that can be searched for on searchvoat anyway.
@srayzie @think- @EricKaliberhall @shizy
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Vindicator ago
I was not trying to curtail comments by mods. I was trying to refocus energy from useless shittalking onto whatever is really happening with the whole Jenny/Jem/Webb/Gritz death thing, which we still don't understand. Maybe that's stupid, but this is actually the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being responsible for someone else's death by an irrational crowd. After a week in which ES, AWS, argosciv and a number of the folks in the Jem threads all bitched to me about mods bullying users, it sounded to me like a new mod attack narrative forming which we didn't need to provide free ammunition to. I asked these guys to ignore each other, just as you suggested I ignore ES, which for the most part, I have.
This myth of me "running the mod team" is kind of silly. The only influence I have is whatever advice of mine they choose to take. I can't demod anyone, make them do anything, or control them in any way. I can lead by example, which I try to do, and in general, I personally don't patrol Comments and call people out for voicing opinions about research topics. I stick to the content of submissions. It was made abundantly clear to me by kevdude and you that Voat would not accept that kind of biased behavior from moderators in a big subverse like v/pizzagate. When I call people out, it is for baseless attacks on other users, doing things that damage the subverse, spreading false information, or trying to suppress other user's freedom of speech.
Crensch ago
I get it.
Can't feel good. They're obviously nutcases. Making that submission now.
The usual suspects complaining when SHTF.
Forgive me for not recalling the details here.
I wasn't really able to frame your words in any other way. I didn't know what your intentions were here. I consider this team YOUR mod team, as you work closely with them and I do not. I try to stay hands off with you more or less running things.
Any mod you don't want on the team will be removed.
Everyone looks up to you as the best mod PG can have, and likely the only one really capable of doing the job right.
Reasons matter. I don't think some of your reasoning was expressed to your mods, and they took things the wrong way. I could be wrong there, but I certainly didn't know about your position and thoughts before what I know now. I think I probably will not be the only one to think that way.
I now realize how hellacious this past week has been for you, and if I had known before writing this what I know now, I'd have worded things differently, or maybe this post wouldn't have been necessary right now.
Since I'm in the habit today of overstepping my bounds, I think everyone would be happier if you would share the load. Let the rest of us in on the what and why of your thought processes when SHTF for you. Don't just keep up the invincible superman act, because we're not going to understand the motivations behind your words. You have mods that really REALLY think the world of you want want to help. Lean on them.
Sorry for the textual backhand; I didn't realize you were having such a hard time, and nobody seemed to understand why you wanted them off Argosciv's back. What I perceived would happen wasn't going to be pretty, and SOMETHING had to shake loose.
That's no excuse, though, and it was wrong of me. Sorry, bud.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Dear Mr. @Crensch,
Would you please give your opinion of the data contained in this link, https://searchvoat.co/user/?user=argosciv
@Vindicator what say you?
Vindicator ago
That's kind of a cool metric page. Didn't know SearchVoat.co could do that.
What jumps out at me is that @argosciv posts the majority of his stuff to v/pizzagatewhatever -- unlike most pg researchers who don't fit with the ruleset very well and pretty much all shills who are deliberately trying to forum-slide v/pizzagate content with convoluted, difficult to vet shitposts.
think- ago
Well, he posts his satanist shit all over the threads on v/pizzagate, in comments, even uploading satanist music, claiming Michael Aquino, one of the most nefarious child raping satanists, is innocent, and no pedo, and the OTO is a total innocent organization.
And obviously he doesn't care whether he triggers SRA survivors.
So, at best, he is a pedo enabler, and a satanism pushing troll.
At worst, he was sent here to do exactly that by a satanist organization. OTO comes to mind.
@Crensch @srayzie @Shizy @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock
srayzie ago
What is OTO?
Shizy ago
It's what Alestair Crowley practiced. It's really sick and really evil.
think- ago
A satanist organization.