Section 1
u/NOMOCHOMO (inc. u/Piscina) to @shewhomustbeobeyed:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15691668/5/ | https://archive.is/Sa12R |
- NOMOCHOMO comment timestamp: 12/21/2018 7:05:35 AM UTC
- shewhomustbeobeyed comment timestamp: 12/20/2018 4:30:05 PM UTC
NOMOCHOMO selectively chose to reply to shewhomustbeobeyed, whose comment was made 14 hours, 35 minutes and 30 seconds prior.
Anon to v/QRV - "Mods Vindicator and Srayzie on the Pizzagate sub defending satanist pedophile Michael Aquino. Attacking another Pizzagate Mod think- and she resigns in protest.":
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2926720/ | https://archive.is/bfFjH
- Posting time: 23 hours ago on 12/21/2018 5:47:59 AM UTC
- Last edit time: 23 hours ago on 12/21/2018 5:57:22 AM UTC
The above v/QRV submission was made 1 hour, 17 minutes and 36 seconds before NOMOCHOMO selectively commented in reply to shewhomustbeobeyed.
The following 2 comments from NOMOCHOMO are those with timestamps closest to the comment from shewhomustbeobeyed, which NOMOCHOMO selectively replied to:
Before:
After:
In the comment which was after shewhomustbeobeyed's comment, we see NOMOCHOMO link to the following thread by u/Stosh21:
In their comment, NOMOCHOMO pings u/StevenDKelley, who only ever made 1 comment(seen in the above thread) and has since been inactive for nearly 2 years.
StevenDKelley's comment, which was made over a month after the submission was posted(well after said submission would have dropped from the front page of v/pizzagate):
Looking back at the main post, at the bottom we see this said by Stosh21:
btw, My name is Steven D Kelley, google me if you want more.
Looking back at the rest of the comments in this submission, who else do we see?
u/SaneGoatiSwear:
To be continued...
Section 2
Days later, after the selective reply to u/shewhomustbeobeyed, we see u/NOMOCHOMO, u/carmencita, u/3141592653 & u/maurice working together to push a bullshit narrative that South Park is "normalizing" pedophilia -- when it is perfectly obvious to anyone remotely familiar with South Park, that their goal is absolutely not to "normalize" such things:
Indeed, notice how the four of them don't want to touch on the real background story of "B. Super Adventure Club", the title of that episode being "The Return of Chef"?
See here for said background story, which involves the suspicious death of Isaac Hayes, his connection to Scientology & his reaction to a prior episode(titled "Trapped in the Closet") which explained that Scientology is a global scam worth millions:
Root of Corruption - Part 18: Bridge the gap (comment 1/4)
Here's a sidenote regarding u/3141592653:
Strongly reminds me of the time that u/carmencita tried to prop up blatant disinfo(which I debunked using a simple reverse-image search) using the usual heart-string-pulling tactic, posted by u/dtneslo(who did see that it was likely disinfo):
Looking back at the above thread made me laugh, a lot, because look at who/what can be seen:
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13992564/3/ | https://archive.is/mL8Tv (u/3141592653 responds to my debunking with an attempt to discredit the website I linked, rather than addressing the indisputable analysis it provides. Then falls back to heart-string-pulling when called out on exactly that)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13584663/2/ | https://archive.is/mIBXj (u/3141592653 pulling heart-strings in response to sourceless jabber from u/carmencita where she tries to bring Israel into it - incidentally, accusations against Israel was the other form of disinfo using the same image(s) of Syrian children)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13583875/3/ | https://archive.is/TsyHH (u/carmencita propping up sourceless jabber about only needing a needle to get adrenochrome from the back of the neck - despite there being nothing to back this claim up - see next)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13590763/5/ | https://archive.is/ugrak (u/3141592653 actually bothers to ask for evidence about the neck-adrenochrome claim but then babbles on about the pineal gland after u/13Buddha shows up to say that there's nothing to support said neck-adrenochrome claim - note that u/3141592653 doesn't ask for evidence to back up the main premise of the submission article)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13583238/ | https://archive.is/PPPRr (u/dtneslo begins to poke holes in the article, asserting that it might be a photo related to the chemical attack in Syria and having distrust of George Webb. u/carmencita pretends to value "Research" and "Proof" despite pushing the disinfo premise. u/3141592653 responds with heart-string-pulling. Both refuse to properly acknowledge the mention of George Webb or the photo probably being related to the Syria chemical attack. u/Vindicator's comment was made after my debunk.)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13583494/ | https://archive.is/s8tKl (After u/dtneslo begins to have doubts about the article and mentions George Webb, u/carmencita again makes a heart-string-pulling comment and pings u/new4now, u/fogdryer & u/Cc1914 and fail-pings u/InnocentAngel. u/new4now claims to remember seeing the pics, pulls heart-strings, but somehow doesn't remember seeing them in their original context)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13582514/ | https://archive.is/TtYCW (Here we can see u/fogdryer's first comment in the thread after being pinged in, the second being shown in above links regarding neck-adrenochrome claims. Notice that u/carmencita replies to the same comment that u/fogdryer does, just over 4 minutes after u/fogdryer)
- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13584751/ | https://archive.is/jyvUh (u/3141592653 says that they're counteracting the downvotes in that thread, but obviously is only doing so for those pushing disinfo and did not want to upvote the only person who took the time to properly debunk the disinfo; me - hence my telling them to shut up)
That's a lot of suspicious behavior, but there's more...
First, notice that even u/Piscina showed up, after my debunk, acting oblivious & trying to keep the narrative alive:
Now, let's get back to the subject of ol' George Webb, shall we?
Just before my debunk(and after u/carmencita pinged u/fogdryer, u/Cc1914 & others), u/EffYouJohnPodesta showed up, pulling heart-strings and neglecting to address the article's disinfo:
Next, she jumped straight on u/dtneslo's comment which mentions distrust of George Webb - where she uses aggressive strawman tactics to try to smear/discredit:
Now take a look at the replies to the above:
Here is an archived link to the twitter comment: https://archive.is/TJaK6
If the screenshots are legit, Jenny(JEM) was sick of Webb before she died.
Final note:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13583555/ | https://archive.is/DAvMw (u/carmencita, in a rare show, makes note of Turkey being involved in nefarious PG-related crimes, but insists on mixing it with other elements and Israel - nobody follows up. When asked for more, u/carmencita advertises themselves, u/new4now and u/fogdryer, without providing a direct link.)
To be continued...
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think- ago
I assume that the poster is @youllrememberme, who showed up in no time after I stepped back on the stickied EsotericShade thread. He should maybe have had the grace to ping me, although I'm not interested in his shill drama.
I didn't leave a comment there.
@argosciv: After reading the post today, I wondered whether you might have left comments? Specifically the comments defending Michael Aquino? Just askin'. Thanks.
argosciv ago
I've opted not to reply to you here yet so as not to provoke anger in you, but, since you ask.
I did not. I've nothing to do with posting that submission or any of the comments therein - .
I was alerted to it by someone(good) and the only thing I did in regards to it was archive it and look for timestamps/comments in the ES thread which might indicate who did or might be connected to whoever did post it.
Whoever is behind it, is trying to play both sides and cause good folk to turn on each other(no doubt in my mind that it connects back to YRM and co.) - which is absolutely not something I'm interested in doing.
As I've said, I have no interest in even talking about Aquino, let alone defending him if it's true that he's abused children. The 'konformist' link you posted the other day was worth taking into account and I've taken the time to follow up on a couple of the sources in it, though it's still not something I'm 100% sure on, one way or the other.
think- ago
Ok, thanks for replying. I asked because my suspicion was that M. Aqui. himself was the anonymous writer who commented. I guess he has a google alert, and shows up whenever his name is mentioned in forum posts.
The FBI stopped investigating him at some point, but later an investigator stepped forward, and said the FBI division in question had links to Aquino's Temple of Seth, and this was the reason the investigation (Aquino's role in the Presidio daycare abuse scandal) was closed.
After the FBI closed the investigation, the Army Crime Investigation Division opened a new investigation. They came to the conclusion that there were reasons to assume he is guilty. He was titled (= tagged in the army files) as an offender. He appealed against getting titled, but lost the court case. The Court decided that the investigation of the CID and him getting titled were legit. It stressed that the CID had pointed out that his alibi wasn't convincing.
It found that he lied when he said that nobody called him 'Mickey', like the children had said he was called.
LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan called him 'Mickey'.
It found that his allegations that the CID was instigated by an anti-Satanist senator wasn't true, because the timeline of events were not like Aquino had pointed them out.
The Court also found that he wrongly accused the pastor-father of one of the girls accusing him (the one that @Vindicator mentioned in his comment) of harassing him via mail.
It also found that Aquino lied about the girls age, in order to make it seem impossible that she was in the daycare centre at the time the CID said she was.
TL;DR: There is an Army Criminal Investigation Division Report that says he has to be seen as a sex offender.
There was a Court that said the CID investigation and their results were legit.
There was a former investigator who stepped forward later and told the FBI that closed the case was compromised.
I'm just sticking to the facts here, not to my personal interpretation.
I will do a post about the case.
@kevdude @Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @MolochHunter
argosciv ago
Yes, this was one of the sources I followed up on, the court document relating to that.
I'd have to follow up again to look for explicit mention of some of the other stuff you mention above, though, as the document I read(if I recall) didn't touch on them.