First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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think- ago
Congrats' @argosciv, you slimed yourself up @kevdude's butt, so that he made you a mod on v/ProtectVoat? Wow. Just wow!! /s
I'm definitely not on @argosciv's side, Kev. I don't mind if u/TrustTheTruth attacks him or not. I will definitely not defend him.
I know that TTT is just testing loyalities here by spitting out user names, but it cracks me up that he lumped Donkey, Are_We_Sure and argosciv together.
And you can be sure that I will be after your boy argo the minute he starts to push Satanism again (even if it's only by posting Satanic music crap) or is going to defend pedos like Michael Aquino or the OTO. Or promotes 'sex magick' or drinking blood. This is everything I have been fighting against.
Have a nice day, Kev.
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
argosciv ago
Actually, the invite totally took me by surprise. I asked @kevdude if he was sure, considering the potential shitstorm that could come from it and he said he was.
I've been helping on various fronts just for the sake of it and never sought to become a moderator of any subverse in the process - I decided to accept the invite merely because it was a gesture which I'm honored to receive, because I do actually care about the quality & culture of Voat and have been one of the most brigaded/gang-stalked users on this site since I had the guts to be honest and open about where I've come from and took my research in it's own direction, away from the party lines of TTT - which is exactly why that group of users targets me and tries to turn mods/users against me through manipulative tactics and talking points.
Despite what you may think, I absolutely do not defend proven pedophiles, nor do I promote or worship anything - especially not malicious criminal activities. What you choose to believe, is up to you.
Precisely. That's why they're putting my name in their little list, but then flipped their shit at me the moment I came out and denounced them for doing it.
We're better off keeping away from each other, so that we can both work towards bettering Voat without stepping on each other's toes. I do actually appreciate that you mean well in what you do, but it does no good for either of us, to be at each others' throats - indeed it plays right into TTT/ES(et al)'s subversion, if we argue.
This is the last I hope to have to say about this publicly - if you'd like to discuss grievances in private, I'll be glad to, but otherwise understand if you're not interested. I wish you well and have no interest in causing problems for you.
cc: @Vindicator, @Crensch, @srayzie
think- ago
This is what @srayzie wrote a couple of months ago about you (please see below). It is still valid.
Yes, you claim that Michael Aquino, one of the central Pizzagate figures is innocent = the allegations against him are not 'proven'. You disgusting piece of shit.
And unlike you, @srayzie and me at least had the balls to call you out in public, while you pitched the narrative that we must be shills behind our back.
I suggest you stay away from me as far as possible.
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@Crensch
Vindicator ago
It pains me greatly to see this shitstorm blow up AGAIN. To see people allowing their emotions -- which in this very thread we have proven were systematically manipulated for months and months with false information by a disgusting pack of shills posing as victims and researchers -- to run out of control and throw both logic and evidence out of the window.
It is neither fair nor wise to use a quote from srayzie -- especially from the middle of the ES gaslighting era -- as evidence of your beef with argosciv. You are claiming he tried to hurt other users. That he is here to disrupt the investigation. You need to show the actual evidence for that, or you are only continuing what ES and his minions started. ESPECIALLY if you are correct and have seen something I and Eric and Crensch have overlooked!
I pointed this out one of the previous times this blew up -- was it a coincidence it blew up my thread about Q pointing out the S8n twitter account tweet about Pizzagate? Really? You really cannot zoom out from the words people are saying in that comment thread and see how argosciv was painted with radioactive waste and then trolled into triggering a shitstorm to derail that submission?
For Christsake!
@srayzie, what do you see happening, when you read that thread now?
I think argo is off base on many of the conclusions he draws, and am not keen to write a book "defending" him. But this issue goes to the heart of the attacks against this sub and how they are carried out. So let's look at the evidence.
Here is the source for that claim, since you didn't provide it: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2670350/13528873 Argo says
I don't see Argo saying Aquino is innocent. He is asking for evidence of the claim Aquino is a pedo. I don't know much about Aquino or the Temple of Set, but I do know that the claim made against him by the three year old daughter of a Christian pastor turned out to be impossible, if police reports are to be believed (i.e. Aquino's innocence of that charge would be "credible"). Argosciv is only stating what his research showed. If there is evidence that research is wrong, it ought to be presented against Aquino.
What I've read about Aquino sounds like a psyop very similar to the Comet shooter -- desensitize the public with a big media event that causes them to dismiss ALL similar reports to cover up what's really going on. It wouldn't surprise me if Aquino himself paid the pastor to bring the baseless charges forward so he could debunk them and gain victim status, as well as a lot of free publicity for his "church."
I'm not clear on argo's full position on Aquino, but from what I've gathered, he believes all of the Satanic Panic stuff was orchestrated hogwash to cover for Scientologists.
You also have said repeatedly that argo is dangerous and harmful to women because he "promotes" sex magic and blood drinking. I spent over a week researching this. You'll need to find that for me, because all I ever saw was him being baited into admitting he'd engaged in it. I never saw him advocating it. I DID see a LOT of people joining the proven shill brigade SAYING he pushed it and was a pedo.
It took me three days of digging to find, but I did manage to dig up the original source of that jpg (Cropped jpg. Hello? Red flair!) that dragonkiller and Cc1914 were posting about him in that link and many other places. Here it is: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2201527/11173531?=20
First of all, he didn't volunteer the information. "Finska" drew it out of him by feigning interest and baiting him about vampires (a topic you yourself expressed interest in his research on, before the gaslighing began). The post is in v/pizzagatewhatever, and the comment is quite deep in the tree. And it was totally taken out of context, he wasn't advocating for people to make satanic blood sacrifices. He was admitting he had been involved in non-violent blood drinking and therefore could credibly talk about those who might be doing it violently. Further down the thread, argo replies to Finska:
The overall message of his comments within his post are right in line with the rest of us: "these people are sick." Now, clearly, he believes in "magic". But he has explained his motivation for posting here and for discussing his theories about disinfo regarding Satanism. This is from the private messages he sent to Crensch, which Crensch posted in this thread:
I should not be surprised by anything anymore, given the fact that the disinfo pushers have manipulated the entire world. But I am surprised. I'm surprised and disappointed after all we've been through together, all of us, that any serious person on Voat would believe anything claimed without evidence, and persist in believing it in spite of evidence they are being played.
Why do we even have the submission rules to prevent manipulation if we are just going to throw them out the window when we start making comments? What's the point?
think- ago
Ok, Vin, that did it for me. I will step back as a mod, immediately.
That the allegations against Michael Aquino are 'not proven' is ridiculous. Maybe you would like to read the post @HugoWeaving did some time ago as a starter.
I cited @srayzie's comment, because she summed it up very nicely. You chose at the time to not take @srayzie's and my statements seriously.
You actually have the nerve to quote this:
I won't add anything more, I don't want to turn this into a shitshow. I am writing this in public, because of your comment above, which you choose to put on a public thread, instead of PMing me.
I can't even express what I feel. Congrats to @argosciv.
I will stay on board as a normal user, and will post more research. At least I have more time now for doing new submissions. /sad smile
@srayzie @Crensch @MolochHunter
youllrememberme ago
Now, you finally see the truth. Just know they will brigade me for commenting out of anon. It's worth it to me.