I know it's not been the whole 6 months we discussed last time, but it is indeed time to talk about the RULES.
As you all know, we have a place for meta talk about the rules and the mods, /v/pizzagatemods. It's not overly public, and it's not the most elegant solution to cluttering the front page here, but that's what we have.
This sticky is here because the usual monthly concern-trolling, and @Millenium_Falcon attacking by @ESOTERICshade gathered enough notice to warrant one.
This was the deleted post. This is the post I made with my findings on the issue.
As always, mods serve at the pleasure of the users of the subverse. Please make your voices heard.
This sticky is both a polling and a discussion. Discuss whatever, wherever, but the polling will function like this:
POLLING
On a base-level comment, type any of these numbers you agree with, in any order.
1 - Rules are fine, don't change them
2 - Mods are doing a good job, don't remove them
3 - Mods aren't doing enough, and need to recruit more mods, and remove more submissions.
4 - Mods are not doing a good job, we need to talk about removing them
5 - Rules are not fine, we need to change them
6 - Mods need to lighten up and let more things slide, let's talk about that.
7 - Try no rules and no moderation for a couple of weeks
8 - No rules and no moderation in perpetuity.
Millennial_Falcon
Millennial_Falcon seems to be a popular whipping boy here. Those that show up in /v/pizzagatemods with complaints tend to target him almost exclusively. The people attacking him seem to think they're not alone, but fail to provide any evidence of wrongdoing.
Keep in mind, your accusations and support for them will not just be taken at face value, like every accuser so far seems to have expected. They will be researched thoroughly, and if there is merit to them, something WILL be done. Please feel free to be the first to provide evidence of wrongdoing on his part.
And by all means, comment on any other mod you have an issue with. Hell, if you guys want ME gone, I'll hand over the reigns to whomever you think is worthy.
Poll will end on the 18th.
Oh,
9 - Stop asking us this crap for 6 months FOR REAL this time!
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letsdothis1 ago
WHAT ABOUT HAVING A RULE ABOUT MUTUAL RESPECT BETWEEN MODERATORS AND THE PEOPLE WHO DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING IN TERMS OF RESEARCH ??
twistedmac11 ago
Exactly. Notice the complete change in @Crensch's attitude, too, vs on this thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/2394295/1191224
Crensch ago
Example of a "user" we have to deal with that doesn't seem too far from @letsdothis1's posting and behaviour.
Another "user".
Esoteric is another one that I've caught lying and wasting my time, but I don't have the links handy.
@Scirel @kevdude @heygeorge
twistedmac11 ago
And that's your excuse for speaking to people the way you do? You tore everyone apart in that thread who cared disagree with you, myself and @ESOTERICshade included. And I've NEVER spoken with you before, so I definitely haven't earned that kind of treatment. I saw @letsdothis1 attempting to speak with you in a pretty rational manner, and I saw you fly off the handle. If you can't handle day to day shit from people who don't agree with your every word, go somewhere else.
Is it so much to ask for a moderator to speak with an iota of respect? Serious question.
Here, let's ping some more people since that seems to be a thing. @vindicator @millenial_falcon @putitout
Disappointed ago
Its @puttitout
twistedmac11 ago
Thank you, I'm on my phone and wasn't paying attention to make sure I had the proper amount of t's.
Disappointed ago
Its all good. Theres a voting system coming in soon that is supposed to allow users to remove mods. Its has some drawbacks but if you want to give input on it where the admin can see, post in here: https://voat.co/v/voatdev/2362183
As far as I know this is coming at the end of the month.
ESOTERICshade ago
I heard about that. I hope it is better than the answer they had for vote farming. Basically all that accomplished was the ability of people @crensch to create a bubble like v/pizzagate mods where they can get posters into a sub and down vote them without the posters ever being to gain enough CPP to down vote. That is the way the mod sub is.
Crensh and couple of other people had their 10 minimum CPP points accrued, then they set a 10 CPP limit. Once the limit is set the system won't add any points. Yesterday I had over 30 up votes in the mod sub the sidebar still says I have zero. So, crensch and crew sit in there and down vote people that will never be able to down vote.
All the while crensch preaches about letting the votes speak for themselves. They got down voted into the stone age, statistically speaking, in this thread but of course in a narcissists world that does not count.
Disappointed ago
Yea, I have shown the admin that I can game it using a VPN and Im still trying to come up with way thaat can defeat me. If it doesn't work I'll game it and expose it using Tor or Vpn don't worry.
ESOTERICshade ago
It reads more than the ip address and mac address. I know that. Not sure how you did that. Simply switching the ip address shouldn't game it. It reads the whole machine ID or something.
Disappointed ago
I'm not going to show people what to do but either way he did not know until I told him. It was very simple though. The votes were flagged as certified.