Suspicious behavior from u/NOMOCHOMO, u/carmencita & MANY others... (Lampshadematerial)

submitted ago by argosciv

Section 1

u/NOMOCHOMO (inc. u/Piscina) to @shewhomustbeobeyed:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15691668/5/ | https://archive.is/Sa12R |

  • NOMOCHOMO comment timestamp: 12/21/2018 7:05:35 AM UTC
  • shewhomustbeobeyed comment timestamp: 12/20/2018 4:30:05 PM UTC

NOMOCHOMO selectively chose to reply to shewhomustbeobeyed, whose comment was made 14 hours, 35 minutes and 30 seconds prior.

Anon to v/QRV - "Mods Vindicator and Srayzie on the Pizzagate sub defending satanist pedophile Michael Aquino. Attacking another Pizzagate Mod think- and she resigns in protest.":

https://voat.co/v/QRV/2926720/ | https://archive.is/bfFjH

  • Posting time: 23 hours ago on 12/21/2018 5:47:59 AM UTC
  • Last edit time: 23 hours ago on 12/21/2018 5:57:22 AM UTC

The above v/QRV submission was made 1 hour, 17 minutes and 36 seconds before NOMOCHOMO selectively commented in reply to shewhomustbeobeyed.

The following 2 comments from NOMOCHOMO are those with timestamps closest to the comment from shewhomustbeobeyed, which NOMOCHOMO selectively replied to:

Before:

After:

In the comment which was after shewhomustbeobeyed's comment, we see NOMOCHOMO link to the following thread by u/Stosh21:

In their comment, NOMOCHOMO pings u/StevenDKelley, who only ever made 1 comment(seen in the above thread) and has since been inactive for nearly 2 years.

StevenDKelley's comment, which was made over a month after the submission was posted(well after said submission would have dropped from the front page of v/pizzagate):

Looking back at the main post, at the bottom we see this said by Stosh21:

btw, My name is Steven D Kelley, google me if you want more.

Looking back at the rest of the comments in this submission, who else do we see?

u/SaneGoatiSwear:

To be continued...

Section 2

Days later, after the selective reply to u/shewhomustbeobeyed, we see u/NOMOCHOMO, u/carmencita, u/3141592653 & u/maurice working together to push a bullshit narrative that South Park is "normalizing" pedophilia -- when it is perfectly obvious to anyone remotely familiar with South Park, that their goal is absolutely not to "normalize" such things:

Indeed, notice how the four of them don't want to touch on the real background story of "B. Super Adventure Club", the title of that episode being "The Return of Chef"?

See here for said background story, which involves the suspicious death of Isaac Hayes, his connection to Scientology & his reaction to a prior episode(titled "Trapped in the Closet") which explained that Scientology is a global scam worth millions:

Root of Corruption - Part 18: Bridge the gap (comment 1/4)

Here's a sidenote regarding u/3141592653:

Strongly reminds me of the time that u/carmencita tried to prop up blatant disinfo(which I debunked using a simple reverse-image search) using the usual heart-string-pulling tactic, posted by u/dtneslo(who did see that it was likely disinfo):

Looking back at the above thread made me laugh, a lot, because look at who/what can be seen:

That's a lot of suspicious behavior, but there's more...

First, notice that even u/Piscina showed up, after my debunk, acting oblivious & trying to keep the narrative alive:

Now, let's get back to the subject of ol' George Webb, shall we?

Just before my debunk(and after u/carmencita pinged u/fogdryer, u/Cc1914 & others), u/EffYouJohnPodesta showed up, pulling heart-strings and neglecting to address the article's disinfo:

Next, she jumped straight on u/dtneslo's comment which mentions distrust of George Webb - where she uses aggressive strawman tactics to try to smear/discredit:

Now take a look at the replies to the above:

Here is an archived link to the twitter comment: https://archive.is/TJaK6

If the screenshots are legit, Jenny(JEM) was sick of Webb before she died.

Final note:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2679509/13583555/ | https://archive.is/DAvMw (u/carmencita, in a rare show, makes note of Turkey being involved in nefarious PG-related crimes, but insists on mixing it with other elements and Israel - nobody follows up. When asked for more, u/carmencita advertises themselves, u/new4now and u/fogdryer, without providing a direct link.)

To be continued...

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NOMOCHOMO ago

"Looking back at the main post, at the bottom we see this said by Stosh21:

btw, My name is Steven D Kelley, google me if you want more."

@Argosciv If you are trying to insinuate @Stosh21 is Steven D Kelley, YOU are mistaken/did not read the post or comments.

stosh21 is QUOTING the original Facebook post by stevendkelley

In the comment section stosh21 repeats HE IS NOT Steven D Kelley (emphasis mine):

A. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7283987

"Hey, I just put this out there for discussion. Please remember this guy was posting this stuff well BEFORE Pizzagate. So it's not a story to discredit Pizzagate."

B. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7283483

What I posted is all I have. Was actually hoping some researcher might have more on this.It does look like another chain in the link. I do believe this guy was posting this stuff well BEFORE Pizzagate broke...

C. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500196/7283964

I agree. It does seem implausible. Who knows how the author comes up with those figures. I would venture to say that there are a sizable number of people that can fit in these secret underground facilities.

The architects and ultimate inhabitants of these underground facilities are “elite” international and intergenerational satanists. Kelley refers to them as “cavers”, and regards the facilities themselves as “castles” because of their Caligula-like opulence. Much has been published about DUMBs – Deep Underground Military Bases – but Kelley is the first to give us a clear picture of what the writers of the Protocols of Zion called their underground “metropolitans”

@think- @kevdude @molochhunter

Argos is clearly misrepresenting his "evidence" to try and smear me. ARGOSCIV is the one exhibiting "Suspicious Behavior"

NOMOCHOMO ago

@srayzie @crensch @vindicator

Please see parent

Vindicator ago

I'm happy to consider your claim, Nomo, if you will kindly enlighten us as to the name of your original account. Clearly you've been around pizzagate longer than two months. And obviously you weren't just a lurker, since you hit the board with a detailed multipart series posted in two or three days on an obscure topic.

If you want to be taken seriously, bona fides are necessary.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Clearly you've been around pizzagate longer than two months. And obviously you weren't just a lurker, since you hit the board with a detailed multipart series posted in two or three days on an obscure topic.

Weird... I know you don't mean it as one, but I can only take that as a compliment. Because again: I've never had any other voat account.

Like I already said. I've followed pizzagate since the initial FBI-anon dropped the codes on 4-chan. I lurked on r/pizzagate and continued lurking for almost 2 years here on voat. The whole time I was doing my own research into Alefantis, AHEPA, International Adoptions, Ritual Abuse, Secret Societies, and other Pgate topics.

I've never posted b4 because I don't believe you are ever truly anonymous on the internet. While I shared my research with "woke" family and friends, I felt I was already being put on watch-lists based on search history and private communications. That culminated in 2 consecutive instances of a drone with a blinking red light hovering over my house in December 2016 for about 5 minutes each night. Whenever I began video-ing it, it flew away faster than I could follow it.

While I can't prove it was related to anything I was researching (or anything at all). It was enough to scare me into continued silence.

I first became aware of institutionalized elite pedophilia from r/conspiracy and r/cst (critical shower thoughts). I never posted on Reddit either, but lurked for about 5 years prior. There I learned about the Dutroux affair, the WaPo White House Rent Boys, Gunderson, Dave Mcgowan, Mk-Ultra, CIA Brownstone Operations, and other proto-pgate pedophilia scandals. What little trust I had in institutions continued to evaporate.

I began studying internet/computer security (to at least complicate institutional/government data collection and tracking). Eventually intending to share my research once I felt more capable of protecting myself, I finally began posting on CDAN when "The Church" was the subject of blind items. That is the first site I ever began contributing to rather than simply lurking. There, I interacted with benrayfield, asolo, and (I believe carmencita..though I think under a different CDAN username). I have previously shared the initials of my CDAN username.

I finally joined voat (specifically for v/pizzagate) and wrote "a detailed multipart series posted in two or three days on an obscure topic" because I had researched the topic for a couple years already. Upon returning to my initial research, I found more substantiating evidence which better completed my initial suspicions. So I compiled some of my research into a giant document and began posting it. It was a joy to finally get it out of my head and share it with the community.

I was in a transitional period of my life where I no longer had as many responsibilities, and was able to devote almost all of my energy to writing, researching, and posting. Thus I came out with my barrels blazing. Perhaps too self-confident and with a bit of a god complex (like I was going to bust this thing wide open)

In retrospect, I would have taken it more slowly. I understand now how much shill activity happens here, and can see why you all thought/think I was/am part of it.

But I'm not. And my anger at being labelled one is genuine. Maybe it's negative, but that chip on my shoulder still fuels me a bit.

After not posting for years out of fear, to be labelled a shill/alt made me believe perhaps even this forum/site/moderators are corrupt, this is a honeypot, or it was all futile.

But I'm still here, I'm still defending myself, and I'm still researching and posting.

If you want to be taken seriously, bona fides are necessary.

I don't know which definition of "bona fides" you mean.

If you mean proof of honesty, tell me how to do so. If something can be arranged between you, me, and putitout. I'm all ears.

If you want my government name (a literal bona fide -documentation/proof) Tough Shit.

I know my own integrity. So I don't really care what ya'll think. I'm communicating what I think to be true. I also know I'm a flawed person, who doesn't have all the answers. But I'm trying to find more of them and I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong.

I'm happy to consider your claim, Nomo, if you will kindly enlighten us as to the name of your original account.

If you fuckin' waterboarded me dude the answer will always remain the same. I'm NOMOCHOMO.

No More Child Molesters. That's it. That's what I'm fighting for and that's why I'm here.

@crensch @kevdude @srayzie @think-

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

You do not smell like @ESOTERICshade to me (still waiting on those answers ES), but I remain on the fence about your character.

I too lurked for a full year before making an account, but unlike every single other person on this website, this is the ONLY place on the internet I have EVER 'socialized', VOAT created me. PG fell in my lap and I had to learn how to type, but the character of the old goats is something I know, you don't.

@Vindicator was here from the start, and while I have seen him be mistaken more than once, he never lies that I know of.

Vin is the only mod I trust (until @think- gets rested and back on the team), and the only person I DM outside my own fam., you and others (looking at you @Argosciv) have underestimated my ability to know everything that goes on (outside of DM's), so did my government, I'm used to it.

Please stop attacking the mods; it’s unseemly. Play nice.

@heygeorge speaks for me on this.

No matter what you do the stench of ES will be on you because of YOUR actions, own it.

I fucking hate your name, not you, so far.

ESOTERICshade ago

but I remain on the fence about your character.

My character is stronger than ever. I provided a vital and necessary function in this sub. That function was to split the pizzagate and Qanon world into two different worlds. It had to be done in order for pizzagate to survive. The pizzagate rule set is supposed to keep pizzagate as fact based as possible to maintain it's credibility. The Qanon world operates in wishful thinking, hope, and wildly outlandish made up scenarios.

Mixing those two worlds together would have killed pizzagate stone cold dead. I think @vindicator has good intentions, he just was not insightful enough to see that mixing those two worlds was inherently unwise. Now that a year has passed he can probably see that pizzagate and Qanon are NOT THE SAME THING, as he once demanded and wanted them to be, although he would never admit it.

I felt compelled to fight that battle because I saw the need, and I had the time. I used to spend my time in pizzagate contributing with details and facts. @vindicator unwise decisions caused me to switch my role to fighting for this sub's survival. It ruined pizzagate for me. It exhausted my will to participate. At the end of the day pizzagate is still isolated from the disinformation of the Qanon world so I feel pretty good about it all.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Are you going to answer my questions?

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15715894

ESOTERICshade ago

All of the accounts that have been attributed to me are not mine. When people disagree with vindicator or crensch they immediately cry "alt." Its not always true but its convenient for them to use. I'm logging off now. I have some interesting things in real life going on that I want to participate in. Thanx for all you do here. It is much appreciated by all :) Have a great day :)

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

You are a coward.

ESOTERICshade ago

You are a coward.

I was the person that stepped forward and saved v/pizzagate from becoming something like v/pizzqanon. You are not talking to a coward. It took a lot of my time to do it. I had to get in the gutter with sewer rats like crensch to do it too. When you fight sewer rats you have to use whatever tools you can find in the sewer. Fight fire with fire. It wasn't fun, I promise you that.

NOMOCHOMO ago

No matter what you do the stench of ES will be on you because of YOUR actions

Fair. And I admit to that.

I'm trying to now "play nice" but I don't like "playing", I shoot from the hip. I won't attack mods, but I will defend myself if somebody falsely claims I'm an alt.

Mhmm. S.i.N. are the initials of my CDAN username

If you follow "the Church" posts from last year, you will hear my voice and propensity to lash out.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2530731

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2726936

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2348605

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2287117

I recall making a comment about SiN months ago, I may have even quoted him.

Did you see that?

NOMOCHOMO ago

I had not seen your pgwhatever post (re: short creek dream center), but I have seen the pgate posts.

Thank you for considering/sharing it. To me this was a less politically charged way to talk about pizzagate/elitepedos as the #metoo movement was receiving mainstream support

I'm not sure if I saw the comment you made, but I was regularly cross posting v/pizzagate to the cdan threads to try to spread awareness during that period of Pedowood reveals.

Idk if that makes me more or less credible in mods eyes.

@vindicator is that a "bona fide" ?

srayzie ago

I mod pizzagate more behind the scenes. I’m busy on GreatAwakening most of the time. I know many of the people I’m pinged to from the days that I was just a regular user. I don’t know you. So I don’t have an opinion either way. Sorry.

EricKaliberhall ago

You stated the following in the submission exposing ESOTERICshade and many of his alts..

[–] NOMOCHOMO -2 points (+3|-5) 7 days ago

And now think- quit as a Mod.

It's fascinating how this stickied shitshow has only fractured the community

...under the guise of "protecting" it

You are not fighting against obvious disinformation and vote-manipulation. You call the exposing of it a "shitshow". I don't give a shit if you are ESOTERIC or not... You are not on my side, you are against me. You start any kind of shit in v/pizzagate and I will bury you. Now you can go fuck youself you fucking asshole.

NOMOCHOMO ago

You call the exposing of it a "shitshow"

I call the STICKYING of it a shitshow,

Because as it only makes this community look like it's fractured, rather than focusing on Elite Pedophilia, (the largest/most commented, stickied post focuses on subreddit drama, not our main mission)

You are not on my side, you are against me.

Your right to that opinion. I'm only against Pedos and Pedo protectors. Hope I can eventually prove that to you

EricKaliberhall ago

I call the STICKYING of it a shitshow,

No you didn't.

Because it only makes this community look like it's fractured

Bullshit... We deal with our shit by exposing it for all to see. You think hiding it and hoping it will go away all by itself is any long term solution?

I'm only against Pedos and Pedo protectors. Hope I can eventually prove that to you

If you continue with weasel-words the only thing you will prove is that you are not a legit user... Time will tell.

NOMOCHOMO ago

What weasel-words?

Please name them so I can avoid them

EricKaliberhall ago

I call the STICKYING of it a shitshow,

This right here is you using weasel-words trying to weasel your way out of your own statement.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Your words:

You call the exposing of it a "shitshow"

Vs

My original statement:

It's fascinating how this stickied shitshow has only fractured the community

I never called the original "expose" a shitshow.

"stickied shitshow"

Please don't twist my words. I repeated them as I stated them.

I changed the past tense (stickied) to the present tense (stickying) to show the relevant adjective.

The original post itself wasn't a shitshow.

The "stickying" (over 1000 comments later) has turned it into a shitshow

Again. I only criticized the "stickied shitshow" after I was accused of being an ES alt in a comment addendum.

It was in response to SWMBO pointing out that the whole thread was becoming an energy drain and we all were "pissing away valuable resources"

EricKaliberhall ago

Ok, @NOMOCHOMO I see where you're coming from... I don't agree that the "stickying" (over 1000 comments later) has turned it into a shitshow. I will try to keep an open mind in regards to you... We need warriors and time will tell if you are legit or not.

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NOMOCHOMO ago

Thanks dude.

I'm fine if we disagree, but thanks for considering my side / letting me explain myself.

Attaching this comment as it provides some more context:

https://voat.co/v/Lampshadematerial/2934223/15806094

heygeorge ago

I don’t know why, but I believe you, b. I lurked here, even after making my account, for about a year. And I lurked, accountless, for considerably longer than that.

Please stop attacking the mods; it’s unseemly. Play nice.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Thank you man. That really really really means a lot to me.

I have so much respect and appreciation for what ya'll have created here, and the collective effort you're leading. (especially as everywhere else seemingly gets more censored)

I've realized you all have different opinions/perspectives and I have unfairly been viewing "Mods" as a collective monolith.

Sometimes I get distracted by the differences of opinion instead of focusing on the shared goal.

Thank you for reading my gut-wrenching, word-vomit, overdramatic, desperation rant.

I may disagree with some of you some of the time, but I'll hold my tongue.

I also know that other mods/users may still think I'm full of shit. But all I can do is try to change that with good contributions.

There's a shitton more research, compilation, education, and mass awareness to work towards. I'l try to stay focused on that and not let my emotions get the best of me.

Thank you again. Just for hearing me out and telling me I'm not alone in this.