Something fucky is afoot.
It's been relatively peaceful in v/pizzagate for months, except for freshmeat-style brigading and vitriol every time someone makes a post about the Q Leaks. This was bad enough that users created and moved Q discussion to a new sub, GreatAwakening.
But then, last Saturday, 3/10, QAnon declares "March Madness", hints Merkel is a blood relative of Hitler and implies the Nazi's did not lose WWII. Voat goes down, the chans lock up, and post-maintenance Voat develops numerous bugs. Freshmeat magically shows up like a shark at an umputee pool party and he and several other users seize upon the vote-count bugs to run the "Voat is corrupt and run by pedophiles, you rubes need to migrate" play in multiple threads in PG and GreatAwakening.
I posted in Voatdev to make sure they saw the way the lack of communication about the bugs was feeding the shills and impacting PG. I was able to publicly undermine his pitch to paranoid pizzagate members by getting him to admit he knows nothing about our sub and was making baseless slurs. The vote count remained evenly matched the first day, but two days later, downvoats had doubled on many comments by me and other PG mods and users.
But I believe the picture is larger than this.
Based on the way I've seen the nefarious characters behave over the past year whenever anything with real potential to drain the swamp materializes, I began to suspect that freshmeat and various alts have been embedded in Pizzagate all along.
- Here is freshmeat saying corrupt mods are "the same shit that went down on Reddit before we all got kicked to Voat." https://files.catbox.moe/2ts8lm.png
- Claiming mods and O's are pedophiles that he knows outside of Vote and suppressing investigation by limiting the topic to elite pedophilia:
"Stay vigilant and don't excuse anything that is done in that subverse. It's compromised and this is a very big deal. I know these pedophiles outside of Voat and it pisses me off how easily they subvert our movements online. It's literally too easy for them and pedophiles have way too much freedom here...Pizzagate should be about taking out all pedophiles, not just the epstein tier pedos. There is pedophilia literally on Voat and it's also the HQ for Pizzagate? Think about that." https://files.catbox.moe/33fj11.png
- And trying to get people to leave: https://files.catbox.moe/6pd94j.png. Yet his account only started 8/17/2017.
He began his subverse attacking ProtectVoat on 12/1/2016. He caught my attention because his talking points and tactics are strikingly similar to another user...
I now believe that under other alts, he helped get the Reddit sub shut down, herded the users to Voat, and then instigated a war between the 20,000 horrified mostly-mainstream conservative folks and Bernie jiltees following the Podesta email revelations, and the rough-tongued, censorship-hating old goats of Voat. I personally observed the seeding of suspicion, the MSM "alt-right extremist" narrative push, and the ban baiting of r/pizzagate-turned-v/pizzagate mods worried about being silenced because of it and their subsequent removal, as well as the efforts of @Crensch, @kevdude and others to strike a balance to allow mods to set limits on the shills without compromising Voat's prime directive to allow free expression and depose PC tyranny.
I've repeatedly seen the talking points, brigading, intimidation, innuendo-smearing and disingenuous misquoting of top researchers and moderators first promulgated by armyseer via v/ PizzagateShills uncannily mirrored lately by freshmeat via v/realProtectVoat. Armyseer created a subverse to smear Pizzagate researchers and mods until he drove many them off Voat. Freshmeat created a subverse to smear those who prevented pizzagate from being destroyed --
...on 12/1/2017, the same day QAnon confirmed clues in Trump's Asia video and tweetsand said Phase I of the global swamp drain was complete and public.
I exposed armyseer's tactics and he's been mostly quiet in his numerous DeathtoMasons alts since fully doxing and threatening mod abortionburger with death months ago...until Q picked up steam.
Armyseer, who began his career identifying Amalek alts to win the trust of Crensch and kevdude, progressed to posing as a mod, issuing bans to trigger people so they would freak out, ragepost and get banned for real, left Voat last July. Freshmeat appears two weeks later -- admits to being Amalek in a post to Whatever, then self-deletes. (Check the very first post).
Coincidentally, freshmeat suddenly starts shit-talking and downvoting in pizzagate and GreatAwakening for three pages of his comment history the day QAnon finally reveals the nature of the evil truth that "would put 99% of Americans (the world) in the hospital."
I believe a serious analysis of freshmeat's history in light of the evidence I've presented shows that he is not just an annoying but harmless autist. He is a tenacious and malignant operator, who undermined the original v/pizzagate investigator mods @PleadingtheYiff and @pizzathrowaway777, hunted abortionburger on Reddit as RedditArmyOverseer to the point of being banned there for doxxing and then on Voat as armyseer after she published an article about a 16-year-old allegedly raped by James Alefantis at Comet Ping Pong. He attacked @IsThisGameofThrones who was subsequently death threatened by Alefantis and filed a police report. Then pushed the idea the YouTuber was Amalek.
Freshmeat aka Amalek aka MightyYetGentle aka armyseer aka She is dangerous, protects Alefantis and tries to destroy those investigating him and Voaters who protect them. He's not here for free-speech. As more of the corrupt establishment is dismantled, he will get worse.
Watch your backs.
AndrewBlazeIt ago
Whipped.
Amelekkk ago
Upvoted!
CheeseboogersGhost ago
You're a kike, right?
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Jew, GFY.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I don't know what you're even talking about, jew boy. Keep on annoying me
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Cheee account? What the fuck you talkin bout, jew boy? You're swinging in the dark like a retard jew and I am laughing at you. Pathetic.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Try again, kike. Muslims and jews are as bad as each other. Christian cucks are as bad as both of them. I'm not talking about the real Christians who despise the filthy synagogues of satan.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Jew, not even on your best day and me on my worst day can you beat me. Bow your ass down at my boot.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Oy vey JIDF is out & about
Areuyiddingme ago
Psyops?
Crensch ago
Yeah, ShareBlue has been caught here before, and I think some "users" still post content from that website. JIDF is also likely here.
Areuyiddingme ago
Without a doubt I've seen some as well. I'm curious as to how organized they were. Front page has been shit on for a while and I can't imagine scripted farming ccp to be too difficult. I often question the amount of users to accounts. Do we have data on any of the raw number of user/account info available?
Vindicator ago
I commented in one of Putt's recent beta testing threads that it would solve a lot of problems if there was a way to show the number and usernames of alts being operated from the same source, maybe on users' profile pages where is shows the subs they own. Increased transparency does decrease privacy, though. That's the drawback.
One thing I noticed doing this research is the use of almost identical talking points by multiple seemingly unrelated accounts. Things like "mods are pedophiles" or "we should all leave" or "nothing you're doing will ever help; you have to organize public protests" or "we need to have a Discord chat because XXXX". They come in waves, almost like there is an organized effort to push a particular theme for a particular period.
Another thing I noticed is that several of the alts I researched in the OP all make or made a majority of their submissions to v/music, or to their own subverses no one else subscribes to.
Areuyiddingme ago
Sounds like the bots are meant to upvoat themselves to push the ccp. It won't stop us. It it is more of an annoyance than anything. Any system that derives from multiple user votes can be manipulated though.
Crensch ago
They're extremely organized. I've noticed the front page invaded with usernames I don't know posting reddit-tier garbage; unfortunately, we've gotten a LOT of redditfugees lately.
I don't know of any public stats on users-to-accounts, sadly.
R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd ago
Great post. You deserve a guardian of voat badge.
Yeah social media in general is a cash cow for people who get paid to ruin the sites. There is not much you can do about it, other then call them out when you see it. That's when they just make a new account.
Social media is in desperate need of a system in which real users can purge problem mods and users. Failbook, jewtube and others are working opposite of that idea. With admins banning users for calling out the baddies. Until someone files an antitrust suit against the social media giants it's only going to get worse.
Vindicator ago
From what I've seen, RTW, it is even worse than that. After seeing the Twitter revelations over the past couple of months, especially the stuff uncovered by Project Veritas about Jack's 100-person department that archives user dick pics, I think these companies were probably created, like the multi-kid cast shows and movies, for the purpose of exploiting kids for sex. Their financials defy common sense...unless they are getting funding we don't know about, for reasons we don't know about. :-(
Womb_Raider ago
heygeorge ago
I organically downvoted you. No charge!
Womb_Raider ago
Yeah, you're part of SBBH. That's highlighting my point for me.
heygeorge ago
The point is that I personally downvoted you for whining about downvotes. I don't normally, but I did. I see you DV'd my comment, lol.
Womb_Raider ago
"I don't normally" you actually brag about downvoating me, but okay, George.
heygeorge ago
lol it's like chinglish
NotHereForPizza ago
@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude
Stop. There's not much time left. Don't make this any worse than it has to be.
Your sub if contained and they're starting to learn. Split off the discussion? No, I don't agree with that. Should we remove all mods and never let you fucks moderate any sub on this site ever again?
Yes. I'm still adamant you retards all account share. It's bad enough you dumb faggot always brigade every discussion any of you have.
These people will come to realize what you lot have done in time. Until then, keep quiet, or I'll follow you around banging pans until one of us is escorted off the premises.
Pattern_Blind ago
At least we can all agree on not liking the kikes and that (((they))) are probably behind some of these accounts if not all of them. We are forming a community based on love here at Voat. Love of white people and the type of freedoms their societies provide.
Love will Trump Jewish Hate! 1488!
auralsects ago
so vindicator thinks the Nazis won WW2, because the anonymous Q said so. interesting.
Crensch ago
8 upvotes. Right.
Shizy ago
Auralsects is donkeyhote, and every other version of that screen name. He's so easy to spot
auralsects ago
your GAY LITTLE ANALYSES ultimately mean DICK, retard. because they're unprovable. I can easily imagine 8 people agreeing that Vindicator is a retard following a psyop. seriously what a fucking faggot "DERRR I RAN THE NUMBERS AND YER ACCOUNT IS NEW, GTFO SHILLLZZ"
Crensch ago
He wrote it. Kinda strange how he attacks us for his delusional mind thinking WE brigade, but he straight up admits to it.
freshmeat ago
i love how it takes you shills at least an entire month before you start repeating my arguments against me
freshmeat ago
im upvoting this entire thread a) so i can still vote on other submissions and b) because this is the weekend, this post will be forgotten since it's 100% lies, and when you try to bring it up in the future like the nadesh shit, it will be ignored. I'm enjoying all of this
freshmeat ago
The only way this thread could have gotten better is if you showed up. You and the rest of SBBH need to be wiped from the site.
Chiefpacman ago
rPV vs SBBH round 5 is looking interesting.
Seriously though, I would have taken what you said more seriously if not for the weird endorsement of kevdude and crensch in there. Sbbh community isn’t much better than the people you are describing.
NotHereForPizza ago
OH MY FUCKING GOD THANK YOU
I was beginning to think I was surrounded by retards that couldn't figure out the retards are clones of the same team. At least the newfag fan boys stay around rPV and don't come out to annoy people en masse as frequently as the SBBH retards do.
You don't seem familiar to me. I'm glad we crossed paths.
Chiefpacman ago
Nice to meet you too. Looks like you hang in more niche subs, explains why we haven’t seen eachother
NotHereForPizza ago
That's odd. I really don't. I jump in here and there where I think I'm needed.
Beyond that, I usually like to watch. Hence, semper vigilans.
Chiefpacman ago
But I’m everywhere!
Besides some niche corners. You’ll see me around.
Nothereforpizza nothereforpizza nothereforpizza
Now I’ll remember you. Nothere I think for short.
NotHereForPizza ago
that's usually what they go for.
Vindicator ago
That hasn't been my experience. They have been very helpful when we were being flooded with hentai, when our users were freaking out over disinfo shitposts, and when we had a sex offender we doxxed spamming the board with dozens of alts every week.
Chiefpacman ago
They enforce groupthink, they participate in downvoat brigaides. They try to control voat, and make new users think they’re doing good things.
I wouldn’t take what they say as fact. I looked at your comments and can see they encouraged you to make this post. They love ‘good’ press.
I have nothing against pizzagate users; we all like you guys well enough. Working with/ being manipulated by sbbh is not going to help your cause. Like I said; you might have a point to what you’re saying- but I lost interest when I saw those names. They’re as bad or worse than rPV and gang.
A_Real_Cause ago
Nice witch hunt. Fuck you faggot. Post some evidence of this dude actually doing something shady.
Vindicator ago
Scared of what?
Apparently you missed the several paragraphs about the multiple users and mods that have been doxxed and received death threats.
You can click some of the links through to the other thread I wrote specifically documenting his most recent shit.
2368119502 ago
You can't pretend to be concerned about doxxing while endorsing kevdude.
For all your talk about alt-handles, here you are crenschdude_the_vindicator.
You are pathetic.
Glad to see people are finally seeing you for what you are.
Crensch ago
A_Real_Cause ago
All I see is this dude being vehemently against pedophilia. Seriously. The only thing I haven't seen from him is any solutions to the things he's complaining about. And I'm staying out of all of this because the whole thing stinks. Don't bring me into your bullshit.
Crensch ago
Step 1) Comment.
Step 2) Tell OP not to bring you into his bullshit.
Sounds like an @freshmeat argument there. Sounds like a concerned party. Maybe with some reason to be concerned.
Hmmmm...
A_Real_Cause ago
I know what's going on here and I want no part of it. Fuck off.
Crensch ago
Then why did you comment in the first place?
A_Real_Cause ago
Why does it matter?
Crensch ago
Commenting here, then writing:
Really give off mutually exclusive vibes, you know?
A_Real_Cause ago
Ah. My mistake.
ScreaminMime ago
I think this belongs in /v/voatdrama
Crensch ago
It belongs as a sticky for all of Voat. These faggots attack good, core, content-producing goats constantly, and are using either vote-manipulation via sock-puppets or IRC/Discord while using their alts to manufacture consensus.
Shit's dangerous, and they have a foothold. Everyone needs to be aware.
NotHereForPizza ago
This just makes you look like a child.
This is why I suggest you sew discord more than being in any way helpful.
Look at yourselves! You're all jerking each other off and defending each other while the rest of us are sitting here going, "these retards really don't know to avoid people like this?"
Good god, you're pathetic.
freshmeat ago
you are a slimey bastard ill give you that. The desperation is palpable
Crensch ago
Wanting Voat to see this thing you claim doesn't bug you and that you want people to see = me being a slimy bastard and desperate.
Do you even read what you type?
freshmeat ago
dude i want Voat to fine comb my account like you SBBH shills are doing. One single shit post doesn't negate all the truth i've been pouring out.
Like i said earlier, I appreciated the attention.
Crensch ago
Except it wasn't truth. Everyone on this website hates you. You had to start brigading yourself just to keep a positive username.
Why does freshmeat stay in the positives when all your previous usernames did not?
Tell me why you think that is. Did Voat all of a sudden decide they liked Spamalek and MYG tranny comments?
srayzie ago
I’ve always been like this. Vindicator has seen it lol. I’ve just dealt with you in the wrong settings :)
Vindicator ago
https://archive.is/uD9q8
Fambida ago
Wait, he tried to claim concern trolling was created for the donald? That shit existed LONG before President Trump started his campaign.
Womb_Raider ago
Yeah, I remember seeing it in the Chans ages ago. Shills have been around a long time.
Awful-Falafel ago
Amazing work! Thank you for your public service.
Crensch ago
I do, indeed, sir!~
tossyokeys ago
Have you considered that pizzagate (the thing, not the sub) is a hoax designed to distract from actual pedo activity going on in government, and is designed to discredit future investigations?
Vindicator ago
What are you, the New York Times?
I've been a mod there for over a year, read the vast majority of every post that has come through. There is a mountain of evidence that the elite use child sex abuse to consolidate their power, trafficking kids from Haiti, the U.S. foster care system and numerous other places. There is also evidence CP was found on the Comet Ping Pong server, was reported to DC Metro Police, and they refused to investigate. Shortly afterward, a second hacker reported a similar story which Infowars failed to fully vet and got themselves sideways with Alefantis' lawyers. This little psyop effectively made the first guy's story untouchable by the media who were afraid to be sued. We've documented it all.
NotHereForPizza ago
And yet you show people how to make their posts not get deleted, endorse other retards who promote the same thing, then change the fucking rules to promote discord.
Good mother of fuck, read the words you type.
Vindicator ago
Not really clear what you are referring to. Our rules are complex; of course I show people how to meet them. Retards who promote what thing? And when did I ever change the rules, let alone promote discord?
NotHereForPizza ago
I never really responded, so here:
But, from my view, this appears to be more a way to make sure the rules don't apply to you. Beyond that, one of the three main rules for v/pizzagate when I came was "No meta discussion." The most relevant section of today's version of the rules is "Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods." I don't currently have time to dedicate to finding a screen capture of about the time the rules would've shown themselves, but I'd hope that wouldn't make much of a difference to the audience.
Look, at worst, I'm being pedantic with you. I get that. But, you have to understand (and while you seem to have been the most collected and well-spoken of the mods, that I've dealt with anyway, you still seem to turn a blind eye to it at best) there are some among the mod team, if you aren't directly complicit yourself, that are there for more malevolent reasons than what you appear to be at the surface. Don't believe me? That's fine. But, I've grown up in these environments, and was molded by them. Certain methods stand out more than others. That's all that really needs said, I would suppose.
Still though, the pilpul laced semantics bothers the hell out of me, dude.
Vindicator ago
I am trying to understand what this means. What is "pilpul"?
Crensch ago
https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e62166fc8/42829.png
Womb_Raider ago
The funny part about this image is you employ pilpul.
Vindicator ago
Ah. Pilpul = sophistry.
So @nothereforpizza is saying I am mouthing off without saying anything? That seems like pilpul itself to me, since every piece of what I have said in this was based on evidence I found, each of which can be debated on it's merits.
It's fascinating to me that no one responding to the research I have presented seems interested in the primary claim that Voat has termites in the walls.
NotHereForPizza ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2451837/12226707
You didn't respond to this one, but you still make claims like this.
NotHereForPizza ago
Also,
I've specifically done this here:
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2451837/12233345
NotHereForPizza ago
While crensch puts his spin on everything like that, it's more a legal discourse word.
Again, this was a reference to the term I dubbed neutral-speak above.
Sure, make claims. I've remained consistent from the moment I came here. My record will speak for itself.
Vindicator ago
wecanhelp and MF dropped the "meta" rule because no one could clearly define what it meant. That was about 9 months ago. We first submitted a clarified ruleset for everyone to comment on and up or downvote. It was an attempt to moderate more in line with what users want.
Hm. I don't see it that way. I see it as a way to improve the quality of your post until it satisfies the rules -- which is the purpose of the rules in the first place. Also, it allows the maximum number of posts to remain before the userbase to up or downvote as they see fit. The primary way content is curated Voatwide is by the voting system. It's the whole point of the platform. Mods are not supposed to be curating content, so in my mind, helping users understand how to satisfy the rules so that the voting system can do it's thing is a way of curtailing mod power and insuring against "malevolent" moderation. The more stuff mods remove, the less chance the folks have to determine the content of the board.
Even with disinfo posts, I vastly prefer flairing to removing, which not only takes the material and the user who posted it out of the public eye, it removes the post from their Submission history, making it hard to judge the nefarious characters when clicking their username.
NotHereForPizza ago
Yeah, so what you're defining is meta... which could've easily been what v/pizzagatewhatever was for.. which was the same narrative I maintained th entire time.
The problem was, if you still don't understand, was the endorsements from the other mods despite it breaking the rules, the lengthy defense despite directly approaching what meta might mean (which, as I maintain, was better used as my argument, which would then follow with me saying okay then redefine what meta means, because this is definitely meta), the abandonment of my position that meta posts had been flooding the front page for weeks due to abortionburger leaving and all that dumb bullshit. You changed the rule, anyway! So, what the fuck?
As a side note, I was right - I specifically told you that the problem would come up. I may have been a dick about it, but as you've just stated, you came across the problem. Yet, I was shouted down when I mentioned that the issue would come up.
Maybe you dumbasses should've listened. What should we think now, after you didn't listen, but still had to change the rule?
This is what I mean, Vind. It just seems like you're talking in circles. I was consistent from the beginning, no one addressed the argument, and I was proven right. Yet, none of you manage to maintain that I'm credible.
SMELLS LIKE FISH
NotHereForPizza ago
Dude, I'm not playing this game with you again.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1780973 posted by a mod, endorsed by a mod, and defended for hours by other mods, all despite being META DISCUSSION from the very beginning. That's the kind of shit I made an account for, you fucking retard.
I would've stayed silent and never have posted a single thing if it wasn't for you retards. But, I saw you lot fixing shit from the moment I came to this site. You're fooling no one here.
Vindicator ago
We have always posted important "meta" stuff that needed to be stickied on the main board -- Rules discussions, how-to, sitewide announcements etc. This thread was requested by multiple people who were frustrated, so when someone wrote it we stickied it. With the new Voat that Putt is working on now, we'll be able to post these in pizzagatemods and sticky them in pizzagate. It was a capability suggestion that I made to him months ago and he liked. Once we can do that, all such threads will go in pizzagatemods.
NotHereForPizza ago
Phrase it how you'd like, it still smells like "this is how you circumvent rules."
Certain people tend to do certain things that alert other people. The key with these kinds of things, specifically, is
thefrequency.Beyond that, this was combined with bullshit meta about abortionburger not being a mod anymore or whatever, which I specifically said at the time wasn't front page worthy (which has always somehow been evaded, even when you do this neutral-speak PR shit with me).
The sub drama combined with the meta talk (when there's another sub for that), and the signaling is what makes it stand out.
Pilpul
NotHereForPizza ago
And the exception proves the rule, eh?
tossyokeys ago
I only dispute the evidence related to the Podesta emails and Comet Ping Pong. I am skeptical about Alefantis, but not sure. In other words, I only disbelieve the "pizza" part of pizzagate.
DC police are certainly corrupt. The stuff about Haiti, and the foster care system are very likely legitimate. I remain convinced, as you and I have both said before, that the elites practice and document pedophile activity as a control mechanism.
The real problem I have with the pizzagate investigation are the claims from hackers and anons that can't be verified. See, it would be fine to investigate based on these tips, but all too many of your fellows at PG have based their conclusions on them. If PG always worded their statements as theories, I'd have absolutely no issue with spreading them far and wide. Theories never hurt anyone.
You may also notice that while I don't believe PG is legitimate, I've never spammed your sub, or even criticized the handful of users that I believe are purposely spreading lies. I think you guys are mostly harmless, and I believe in free speech. I also believe in the investigative process though, and that requires hard facts before I'll buy in. To convince me, it will take more than double hearsay and anecdotes.
So keep doing your thing, I won't give you trouble in your sub. But outside of the subs devoted to the PG theory, you might hear some criticism. Hopefully that doesn't make us rivals. I'd much prefer that we all get along.
Vindicator ago
I can certainly respect that. We work pretty hard to get people to source every claim. It's one of our submission rules.
Crensch ago
No, because the Podesta Emails contained known pedo-food euphemisms, hence "PIZZAgate".
tossyokeys ago
I'm clearly and emphatically stating that the podesta emails were fabricated and leaked by podesta and his pals, on purpose, to discredit researchers and protect the real pedo cabal that includes many within the DNC, RNC, Hollywood, and several dozen non-profits located around the world. You know, the real one. The one that isn't so fucking retarded as to store their vaguely incriminating sex trafficking interactions via an unencrypted email server located in a god damn public workplace that hundreds of $18 an hour staffers have access to.
But you know exactly what I meant, didn't you.
Crensch ago
I didn't know exactly what you meant. That sounds really outlandish, and as if you don't know how big conspiracies work.
tossyokeys ago
Its a hell of a lot more likely than the story we're all being fed. For your theory to be correct, it would imply that the entire FBI and NSA must also know, and be complicit. That's a conspiracy too big to be secret. However, if you force all the top-level political insiders to partake in certain very illegal practices on film, the conspiracy knows no bounds.
Look. We both know you're not going to change your mind on this, and neither am I. You heard my theory, and I'm familiar with yours, so I'm not sure these much left to say.
Crensch ago
Think Seth Rich is the only one that felt depressed all of a sudden?
Oh? Who are they going to tell? The MSM? What authorities would they run to? Obongo? The DoJ?
Yeah, and when that happens, and all the little NSA/FBI/alphabetgoodguys find this out, what, do you think, they're supposed to do about it?
I change my mind all the goddamned time. I do it when someone has better arguments, or evidence. It's happened here in the presence of many in this very thread.
But you admitting you won't change your mind tells me all I really need to know.
A_Real_Cause ago
How does the quote go? "Imagine the horrible things they might be doing and multiply it"? Pizzagate has certainly been completely dropped from any mainstream media. They absolutely don't talk about podesta and his creepy fucking emails in the news, ever, do they? They all are probably fucking kids and killing people behind closed doors and have been doing it for such a long time that it's become commonplace. Fuck em all. They can have it then.
DieselBustersYes ago
Send @freshmeat nudes @kevdude.
Womb_Raider ago
I don't like freshmeat either, but this post is accusing them of being @she and @amalek? Don't you think that's a little ludicrous? What makes you think that?
@She was from SBBH's camp, it was clear as day from the IRC screenshots that @she was friends with the present SBBH gang and not only that, she was a raging SJW.
I think you're off base, Vindicator. Not to mention that criticisms of the PG sub are pretty valid... especially early on, while PG was gaining steam, much of the moderation was suspect. That's why 4-5 replacement subs were born. That didn't happen for no reason.
This post appears to be peppered with falsehoods the likes of which makes me suspect whether you're a sock puppet account of SBBH... I'll add you to the list of accounts to watch, I guess. Surprisingly big list.
Crensch ago
Given your presence here, I don't believe this. The links proving what Vindicator said are there, and you question them as if they're not.
Sounds like someone has a dog in this fight, but wants to appear neutral to me.
Womb_Raider ago
Frankly, I've caught you lying and manipulating people so many times that I no longer care what you have to say, Crensch.
Crensch ago
Except you haven't, because if you had, you'd have links and archives of it like I do for freshmeat.
Womb_Raider ago
I do have screens. Remember when you called discord a honeypot to dox users? You deleted all of those comments, but I have them. Why did you try to hide your words, Crensch? That's good evidence of dishonesty right there. You're such a coward.
Crensch ago
I deleted comments? Where?
I don't think you have what you say you have.
Womb_Raider ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/1856839
Crensch ago
Not evidence of anything.
Womb_Raider ago
Those were your top comments that are deleted, do you deny it?
Crensch ago
Did you present evidence? Or did you just present a link to deleted comments?
Womb_Raider ago
Do you or do you not deny it, first?
Crensch ago
So, no evidence? Good to know.
Womb_Raider ago
Answer the question and you'll see. It says a lot that you won't answer. Admission of guilt.
Crensch ago
TIL exercising the right to remain silent = admission of guilt.
It's not happening. Provide your evidence or be someone that doesn't support his claims. Your choice.
Womb_Raider ago
The right to remain silent = a law that protects you from prosecution. You're remaining silent because you know those comments were in fact your comments making wild, false claims about discord's capabilities to destroy individuals.
You're a piece of work.
Crensch ago
How funny is that.
That's quite the claim. Proof?
Says the guy that doesn't support his claims.
heygeorge ago
I'd like to see @womb_raider's evidence of the mysterious deleted Crensch comments.
DieselBustersYes ago
@Womb_Raider...
So, how many bitcoins did @kevdude pay your for your shill work?
Lucky fucking bastard, heard that you got .1! >:(
Womb_Raider ago
He paid me in brigades
DieselBustersYes ago
Was it worth it though?
Womb_Raider ago
More evidence of manipulation is a good thing, I suppose. It would take a lot of effort to silence me, and doing so would make it clear to voat that something is amiss. I think everyone's aware you guys brigade anyway, but supportive evidence is good.
DieselBustersYes ago
Is @freshmeat/ @9-11 and his army of a hundred socks that try to infiltrate SBBH helping you on your adventure with fighting SRS/SBBH?
Womb_Raider ago
If you're asking if he's worth defending, the answer's probably no. But I will defend anyone on this website from lies.
Crensch ago
Did you follow the fucking links, faggot?
https://searchvoat.co/?t=&s=&u=freshmeat&d=&nsfw=off&o=on
What did @freshmeat post there?
https://archive.is/uD9q8
What did @MightyYetGentle1488 post there?
No reason to even read the rest of your shit.
Womb_Raider ago
I saw those. I don't find them credible.
When it comes to weighing the credibility of myg versus SBBH, he ranks just slightly above you guys, if that puts things in perspective for you.
Crensch ago
Oh, I know your position here. I can guess WHY it's your position, too. So can everyone else.
Womb_Raider ago
Because I think MYG is a liar? Yes, that's my position. Since when is it not yours?
Crensch ago
You're either not understanding, or pretending to not understand. Either one is kinda funny.
freshmeat ago
I'm honestly too busy for this shit tonight, 7 months ago everyone was role-playing as amalek and there were many front-page shit posts claiming to be Amalek. I joined in on the fun. I am not Amalek, he is in jail.
Crensch ago
Too busy to get your bot army or discord/irc buddies to log in and defend m'lady?
freshmeat ago
dude it's saturday night. People have lives, and I was on my way out until I logged in an hour ago. Now I really need to leave, we can pick up on this tomorrow for god damn sure. You guys didn't even try to hide your bots tonight.
Crensch ago
You mean the single accounts that we all have and use to post content here while you and your buddies ADMITTEDLY have alts that you slip in and out of?
Keep at it, cupcake.
freshmeat ago
you're literally making shit up, you look like a god damn retard
Crensch ago
What did I make up with my previous comment?
Vindicator ago
Oh? Please elaborate.
Womb_Raider ago
Well, the @she accusation for instance feels like a massive reach. I mean, honestly, how do you think? You're not addressing me question, so lets start there before you question me, please. And @amalek? I'd like you to expound there too, if you could. Those are ridiculous accusations, and I know freshmeat better than I would have liked to.
Vindicator ago
All of the evidence I just replied to you with was in the OP, but you're acting like I made baseless claims. Of course I questioned you.
Vindicator ago
Freshmeat's joined Voat 8/17/2017 and made his first post to Whatever 8/17/2017 “Amalek here, Friendly reminder that lefty reddit liberals are the top posters.” Post deleted 12/1/2017. https://searchvoat.co/?t=&s=&u=freshmeat&d=&nsfw=off&o=on (See first link)
MYG is an O of RPV and likely an Amalek alt: https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2244203
I didn't research She, but MYG claimed to be an alt here: https://archive.is/uD9q8
Womb_Raider ago
Yeah, I asked mighty about the "Amalek here" thing, he said it's because everyone was pretending to be Amalek some 7 months ago and he was joining the fun. If it's his first post on a fresh account, I'm not sure how I feel about that. Being the first post for the account is questionable, I will concede that.
I know he runs rPV, but why should that be considered a negative thing? You defend Protect Voat and attack a redundant subverse? That doesn't make much sense to me. At least their sub posts about the PDF spammer.
MYG is definitely not @she. You joined voat after the @she event occurred. How would you know anything about it anyway? I'm calling deceit.
Vindicator ago
I find it interesting that you are fixating on a single, three character word in a piece with dozens of much more important components, ignoring the mountain of evidence I presented, as well as the premise, and claiming I am being deceptive. MYG said he was @she, which I documented. As I said, I know little about that drama. I don't even know why including it is getting you and everyone else so riled up. I do know how armyseer used a subverse he controlled in a way eerily similar to freshmeat, to wage an incredibly damaging disinfo campaign that resulted in the doxxing and silencing of multiple excellent researchers, and that the most vicious attacks attacks of both coincide directly with revelations exposing the Clinton cabal.
Perhaps I was wrong to think Voat would be interested in the evidence of this.
xenoPsychologist ago
not to mention saying "peppered with falsehoods" and when asked to elaborate, went back to the one thing.
Womb_Raider ago
I just addressed the parts I'm certain of. The remainder of your post is news to me, and may be valid information. I don't know. I will be looking into the rest of it and updating my opinion, probably editing this comment in response. Like I said, I don't like the guy, but if you're endorsing SBBH you must be suspect also.
These downvoats in this thread are very, very strange. I went from 21380 CCP to my current 21304, that's a lot of activity in a small window. Screams manipulation to me.
Vindicator ago
With so much points to begin with, why do you even worry about it? I lost 500 points overnight once right after I became a mod. But I don't worry about it much.
Womb_Raider ago
It's the principle. Someone brigading another user is an attempt to silence their viewpoint. The system is designed to counter spam but when manipulated and left unchecked, it could silence anybody. It's always important to call it when you see it.
I don't mind legitimate downvoats, but if I feel a group is trying to bury criticism, that bothers me.
Crensch ago
What it screams is that you're demonstrably wrong, and your anecdotal context isn't as solid as you seem to think it should be.
You're treating good users poorly, while defending the user called out in OP.
But obviously those downvotes are unexplainable without brigading.
Womb_Raider ago
How so? I disagree.
No I'm not. I'm addressing the topic at hand objectively. Vindicator mods a sub that has caused controversy on voat and I simply said so. You disagree? You are delusional of the existence of the offshoots of Pizzagate? What point are you making here? Who do you consider 'good users', SBBH members?
80 in less than 8 hours? Yes, that's strange activity.
Crensch ago
More pretending to not understand. Really funny.
If I commented as you have, I'd expect more downvotes.
Then again, I could just post something anti-freshmeat to get those.
Womb_Raider ago
Pretending to not understand? Please elaborate. I understand perfectly well what's going on.
Crensch ago
Every claim in OP is sourced, but you say:
When @Vindicator asks:
You say:
Attacking the user for not responding to your ridicule-worthy, and obviously rhetorical questions. Let's go through them:
Question 1:
What do you want as a response here, a "yes"? Do you really expect any other response? Is this the question he was supposed to answer?
Question 2:
What... with you having written nothing but the above question, you think he's just going to turn around and say, "my god, HOW BLIND COULD I HAVE BEEN? Of COURSE it's ludicrous!"? Was this the question he didn't answer?
Question 3:
... He dug around and found the usernames linked to the user in question ADMITTING things. What answer do you want here? "Oh, SBBH told me so!"? Is it a trick question? Why would you think something if the evidence is right in front of you, I wonder?
Was that question the reason you pulled your passive-aggressive shame attack on him for not answering? "You didn't answer my question, you rude fuck, so start by answering my question before questioning me."
Remember when you wrote this?
http://archive.is/npRlt
@kevdude @srayzie @gabara @think-
Crensch ago
This comedy brought to you here
For those that just woke up, or haven't had their coffee today, @freshmeat accuses ME of brigading by posting a screenshot of his downvotes here. I respond with a screenshot of downvotes I got from him and his crew in another submission.
Apparently I could be brigading myself and blaming it on him, but he fails to see that the opposite could be true. His arguments almost invariably could be used against him. If he ever decides to attack you, remember that.
freshmeat ago
There isn't a chance in hell I would brigade anyone on this website, especially at this point of having a minor amount of visibility.
That would fall under the presumption im a fuckin loser like you. You have made so many enemies that you think I do what sanegoat and amalek did, and I never have. I appreciate the awareness campaign tonight. You guys jumped the gun a bit and people are going to see right through your lies. Just like at this high-tier autism post that mixes half-truths and lies into some sperg version of reality. I wouldn't be trying to make Putt's job harder at this point in time, so you have a lot of balls ill give you that.
Crensch ago
Except you have before, and you're a known liar.
The only person that isn't under the impression that you're not even good enough to lick the shit off of my boot is you. How does that work for you?
Everything sourced.
Lies.
Pick one.
freshmeat ago
Literally zero proof and you pulled this out of your ass
You sound emotional and triggered and it's evident by the brigading tonight.
Everything I said is true and this post is getting me publicity.
Crensch ago
https://archive.is/uD9q8
https://searchvoat.co/?t=&s=&u=freshmeat&d=&nsfw=off&o=on
Kek.
freshmeat ago
maybe explain this more coherently so people on the fence can see what point you are trying to make. I stand by that 1488 post, and ive been complaining about what you shit heads do to this site for literally years.
uvulectomy ago
so......... tl;dr - freshmeat is a niggerfaggot cryptokike?
DieselBustersYes ago
He needs to go somewhere else...
Crensch ago
Yes.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Freshmeat is 9-11
adhdferret ago
I don't think it is as nafarious as protecting the ones you seek to destroy. It is more about splitting up your community and causing disruption.
Hell don't you guys have carte blanche to delete shit? Worst that they will do is go to PV and bitch which we will downvote them and tell them to fuck a rake.
Its_ok_to_be_white ago
The same tactics are used all over the web. They want us divided. They want us fighting each other. They want us ignorant. They want us weak.
People pulling together as a community is what they fear the most.
Vindicator ago
That is what has been happening in Pizzagate and GreatAwakening. People have survived the divisive attacks and come together as a community -- not just here, but also on Twitter and in some cases IRL. It wasn't until that really happened over the past month that freshmeat showed up in our threads (under that alt). That made me curious, so I started looking into the similarities between him and our previous disinfo scourge and was quite surprised at what I found.
People had to file police reports. It was no joke.
freshmeat ago
im not what this post claims to be. Ignore the numbers and consider the content of what im saying
Crensch ago
"Ignore the well-sourced facts and listen to my words, goy!"
freshmeat ago
numbers are fabricated, my words aren't.
FreshMeatSpin ago
So, what are you saying?
Crensch ago
The links above aren't fabricated. Your words are lies and unsupported accusations - unlike OP.
adhdferret ago
I won't disagree with you, but as with most movements that are successful or have been they need leadership and a clear chain of command which is why things like FPH and pizzagate have such high turnover rates with usernames.
They will don't want liability for third actions so instead they make statements, baseless accusations and then so they have no consequence just delete the username.
I am not saying there isn't some fuckery afoot within the system, but I know for goddamn sure that someone would have come forward or the actual police would give credit to these so called investigations.
Haven't seen a fucking thing along those lines.
Vindicator ago
Well, I know of two people who tried to come forward and were crushed. The guy I mentioned in the OP who was allegedly raped by Alefantis, which resulted in his mother (Alefantis' biz partner) leaving not just the restaurant, but I believe the country if I recall correctly (several years before the election). Helping vet him so he could tell his story got one of our mods doxxed, threatened and run off of Voat completely and resulted in her reporting online death threats to her local police.
There was the case of the guy Alefantis called and threatened, mentioned in the OP. He filed a police report in Galveston, which of course has no jurisdiction over crimes committed by someone in DC.
And there was also the guy, @trebillion on Twitter, who went to the DC police to report what he'd found on the Comet server instead of talking about it on social media, long before the fake CP "menu" hacker popped up, or the shooter supposedly trying to "save kids" conveniently fired shots through a locked door into the hardrive of the computer. After seeing this video, I contacted him privately on Twitter to ask a bunch of questions. I find him convincing.
So, yes, people have come forward. Every single one who has, has experienced threats, harassment and public discrediting.
I would say that the reaction of the DC Police -- slow roll trebillion's request for an investigation, send the police chief to the Stand with Comet Pizza fundraiser for a photo op, turn the traffic cameras away from the front of the store just in time for the shooter -- actually DOES show the "police giving credit" to these investigations. The evidence of all of this is in the v/pizzagate archives.
Do you honestly believe the DC police are not in on the corruption?
Its_ok_to_be_white ago
Haven't you noticed the arrests? Trump is in full pedo-hunting mode.
adhdferret ago
I don't see the Clinton crowd in orange.
I don't see anything other than shit from the goddamn FBI which not sure if you know is the largest distribution network for pedo material is making easy arrests.
Much like how they cultivate terrorist and act like it is their job.
Have any of the people you put under investigation ended up in jail yet? If so was anything of the investigation performed by the crowd ever acknowledged in their prosecution?
FuckEverybody ago
I think the problem is the sprawl is just so massive and pizzagate is the pedo tip of the iceberg. There's some reason why you can't just arrest some of these people, you have to build cases. Or go full blown vigilante, but I don't know how realistic that is.
adhdferret ago
It isn't complicated. It is simple if the president can say that Osama planned and orchestrated the twin towers bombings stands to reason our new one can say these people are fucking children and we need to deal with that.
So either our president is a paid for politician or they are in fact innocent.
You choose which one.
FuckEverybody ago
I think you're right to an extent, but I also still think it's more complicated than that. I don't think they even know who all the players are, and I think the investigation is still ongoing, and I think some people make deals or need to make deals to get deeper in the investigation.
And I think it's so deep and fucked up that most people wouldn't accept what's true, and the brainwashed will be a problem. The media is in bed with the corrupt, and it runs so deep that people are living a lie starting with their core concepts of reality including what they believe happened in WWII.
Ask anyone about Antarctica, like why don't people live there, like really live there, and most people will say something like "oh it's too cold, who cares about Antarctica?" They're entire reality will be shattered.
All the loons that voted for Hillary, pretty sure they will fight for her not to be arrested. It's fucked up. Shit like the Baltimore riots, the shitty college safe spaces, already exposed U.K. Pedophile rings now seemingly forgotten, WMDs in Iraq, the fucking gulf of Tonkin was a lie... shatter people's reality and violence breaks out.
I mean, I'm all for it, but I think the idea is to take all these people down without a civil war or world war, keep things cold.
If the pizzagate related cabal isn't taken down properly, we will probably enter world war 3.
Or not, these are just my theories.
Execute them all publicly, fuck the cautious shit, it's probably a cautious plan presented by guilty parties anyway trying to keep things slow and cautious while they find a way to escape.
adhdferret ago
No fuck all that. They exploited children for sexual gratification. We as a race have advanced beyond that and I don't give a fuck. There is no deals, no manuvering or any of that.
We need a goddamn executive branch with a backbone.
FuckEverybody ago
Agreed. It should be that simple.
If Trump isn't part of the cabal, then he most likely has (((cabal members))) surrounding him and they're convincing him to take this complicated cautious approach instead of the simpler more direct approach as you mentioned.
adhdferret ago
I am done with the gray area of shit like this and the deals to get a better case.
We have some fucking badass son of a bitches that can swim 3 miles to hike 2 miles and kill everyone in a goddamn village without making a sound. It is simple they go to another country and well shit happens..... Bad shit as some might call it.
Otherwise we get a restoration of fucking order or we just get shit worse for the future.
So being prior military I have that chain of command instilled within me. So I will trust in our president and while I don't like it....just the way it is.
Vindicator ago
You're an interesting guy, ferret. What I've noticed modding pizzagate these many long months is that the folks who get the angriest are either vets or law enforcement, and carry themselves like those very badass son of a bitches you mention. I am fortunate to know a couple of Rangers and an Air Cav vet IRL, and recognize the way they carry themselves.
They are always targeted by the disinfo pushers on our board. Frequently, they are pushed into "black pilling".
It may well be that doing right by these folks is what is keeping everything that's happening under wraps so far.
:-) Thank you for your service. At this point in time, I suspect you will not be disappointed.
adhdferret ago
Here is my number one problem with Organizations such as yours.
First off there is zero accountability held on you and your investigation. That means that say when there is false evidence that is submitted in a forum for someone to read about, and they act upon it due to the so called lack of law enforcement they are left with the fallout.
The person who posted the disinformation just makes a new account and boom they forget about it and no one within your ranks speaks of it again.
How many innocent people have gotten involved within the pizzagate ordeal? People that didn't do anything but be so called suspect?
Bet you cannot even name one person without Google. And even then you say it is not relevant or your sorry....well society has this thing of once labeled then always labeled. Destroyed people's fucking lives and for what?
I will tell you what. So you and your merry group can feel useful. Well you are not as of this date. We have a system for this shit to happen and all you are is a social justice warrior. Just a different title.
Another problem I have is how movements such as this always turn to funding so they can continue.
It always happens just a fact of history. Look at perverted justice. You know them right? They were the group that teamed up with to catch a predator back in the day.
They made 1.2mil from that shit and employee salary's were almost a million. Did you Also know that many of the cases they brought to court with their evidence didn't result in prosecution?
You know why? Because they didn't follow the law in evidence and documentation. Also they entrapped many of the ones they wished to get in jail. Matter of fact FBI at one point sezed thier computers because they were the ones distributing the pornography they were supposed to stop!
This is where you and yours are headed. Just happens because for one you have no clear leadership. I know why too.
It is because you don't want to be responsible for this. Your main goal far as I can tell is to hold a position of authority over people.
It is always the same time after time. Yet people like you claim the same thing.....we did it for the right reasons. Well no you didn't. You did it because you wanted to feel like you did something relevant.
How about you focus your attention to something that you can change. Something where you will get out of your house and interact with people face to face. Start something for kids about the dangers of predators? Educate parents on the pitfalls of social media within your own community?
Even though I have been out of work since July I still interact with my community. I help mentor kids and give them a trade skill. I show them how to fix engines....how to troubleshoot problems.
I educate myself upon problems with my son's school and if I can make a valid point I bring it up at the HSA.
Then on here I am always trying to find ways to involi community with new ideas for subverses where they can empower others to possibly make more involvement.
It is what I have done since I got here. Tried to involve more and more people and encourage connection. What does pizzagate encourage?
Singularity because anyone that opposes is just attacked and there is no goddamn welcoming to new community or even reception.
Hell can't even post about it because likely you will delete it lol. Oh let me guess you have a sub dedicated for that? I bet you don't even have an idea of how to correlate all the data you have so far because everyone is doing something different.
Then comes the problem of authentication for linking new users to old account names or does that even happen?
Last thing is I just don't like you or anyone involved within the subverse. They rarely participate within the rest of voat and contribute nothing but more dynamite to the boss for when the shit hits the fan.
Hell your group doesn't even go after the investigation of the current pedos on this site, but holy shit get a chance to find some obscure hoaf assed connection to some shit across the world.....yeah everyone on that.
You want to impress me? Fix Voat and rid it of the pedo scum that is already here.
You won't I already know and you won't even encourage it for some half assed reason. Nope you will just ignore it and allow it to planned your home like a nest of termites.
Makes perfect sense.
Far as who I am.....i am just another person that wants the world to be a better place for all. A place were I can actually live a fruitful life and raise a family. My dream is to help others active that goal as well.
Far as the black pill....grow up and stop using memes to convey a message when speaking with someone about a problem you want to to be taken seriously.
I am not looking at any situation as hopeless I am looking at it as I am not certain with my means available I can actually win so I don't see a point in wasting my time.
It isn't defeat it is strategy. Time management if you will and that is all. I know that since the dawn of civilized world we have had pedophiles. We will always have them in our branches of government. Just how it works. We will have secret societes that will practice questionable methods.
We will and nothing you me or anyone else can do about it.....you don't need to fix the world and you are not supposed to either.
I know that people will be explotied on this planet and while it is a damn shame it isn't a pressing concern for me. I am responsible for my son.....my wife....my life....my family to an extent.
Other than that I honestly don't care. Those kids have people within their lives that should and if they don't well blame their God or yours.....won't change anything either just try it.
Now someone fucks with me or mine? I won't hesitate to end their attempts by any means necessary. I don't care who it is.
I have done what I had to before I was in the military while I was enlisted and hope I don't have to again. I don't like who it is that I become.
So you read this and come to your own conclusions....reply if you feel you can address anything I will be respectful as I always am.
adhdferret ago
I am just a man. A man that can bleed when cut or die when shot. Nothing about me is badass.
Shit need to be seen as godly right or damnation wrong.
The only thing you could do that would make me proud is make a measurable difference. Get law enforcement to acknowledge your movement in a good way.
Unlike you I think that the division of our people that have taken the oath to uphold the law are wanting to do that. Maybe not all of them, but more that want the right thing then those that don't.
Until that happens I won't see you or anyone within your movement as a good thing. Just a distraction for those that need it.
Womb_Raider ago
Yeah, Pizzagate was sloppily run. The other subs split off because the censorship was heavy.
NotHereForPizza ago
I actually have documented evidence of the mod team not only supporting infiltrating the sub, but circumventing rules for the sub that were "voted for by the community."
I've seen the cycle before: appoint your group to moderation/maintenance, advertise methods for circumventing rules, change rules, split off after division is sewn.
It's easy to spot. The retards don't think they'll notice, but all they need is someone to step in and point them in the right direction.
Womb_Raider ago
Can you PM me the evidence, please? I have some, but I'd love more. I thought Millenium_Falcon was the only bad seed, but I've learned more about the mod team and think others still there are very questionable.
No wonder the PG investigation left voat.
NotHereForPizza ago
it was reported MF was friends with James Alefantis, a Rothschild. What's funny is that if you question the other ones about whether or not they know James, if they knew MF knew james, or something similar (involving JA), they just plain don't respond.
Here's the thing though, the mod team has thinned a little since I was really adamant about making noise about them. It's more the SBBH group now that is causing the commotion. What I have though would be best modified by screenshots of the front page of v/pg from back then. Without that, it tends to carry a little less weight. Do you have any captures that involve the rules for the sub circa late 2016/early 2017?
Womb_Raider ago
Unfortunately not. I didn't archive as much back then.
adhdferret ago
Meh they want to keep the idea going. It is how they occupy they time so way I see it at least they are harmless doing what they do.
MadWorld ago
Oh boy, here it comes the rPV crew... I am guessing all the votes will turn in favor of freshmeat in a couple of hours!
NotHereForPizza ago
You seem to have the wrong idea.
This feud is between children who don't understand how trolls work, and retards who showed up to voat recently, but have unironically made a sub called "realprotectvoat."
It's no secret that SBBH and PG mods brigade just as much, if not more than the neofanboy team.
Which of these groups do you think is better? Neither seem helpful or willing to work together. Doesn't that seem strange to you? Doesn't something stand out?
MadWorld ago
I don't really like the fight between the /v/realProtectVoat and @Crensch, and I don't really care about /v/sbbh subverse. But I do know @Crensch and PG mod @Vindicator cite their sources, and they are very good spotting infiltrators. I very much appreciate their work!
I also do know that there are nice /v/sbbh users. When Putt was porting the new codebase, very small number of users offered to help(MYG was even shitposting/spamming on bug reports a number of times. Similar users were even shitting on Putt's announcements). For example, @Nadesh doesn't know much about testing on preview.voat.co and she has kids to take care of. But she learned and she stuck with us throughout all 4 phases of testing.
Do you have the sources to back up that claim? If you do, maybe you could put together a similar submission, such as this one, for everyone to discuss.
NotHereForPizza ago
Get one other person to agree with you and Crensch, and I'll spend a little bit of time on you if you really want.
See what happens when we play nice? We can have a civil discussion.
freshmeat ago
I wish i got paid to do this shit like y'all do. You and the same people always show up in threads saying the exact same shit with no proof everytime. Please stop ruining my buzz
MadWorld ago
I want nothing to do with you, psycho! You brought attention to yourself! I check regularly on /v/voatdev subverse for bugs and updates. And you and your rPV crew just keep bring your drama with your vote manipulation there.
I understand it's your job to trash Voat here. Always the one with wise talk, yet, so fucking stupid and self-contradicting when seen as a whole.
Again, always the one with wise talk, but offer no proof, yet demanding proof from others. I used to report bugs to /v/voatdev when Putt was porting the new codebase and I have the habit of visiting that subverse to check up the status. Normally I just ignore a piece of shit like you. But your own drama brought the attention to yourself while talking up your ass!
LOLS, says the psycho who tries to ruin Voat community. Yeah we all know Putt is a piece of shit along with every subverse listed under your rPV. Thanks to your narrative, now we can shit on Putt and his cabal to protect free speech and expose how much Voat hates free speech! And good job manipulating votes, it does make your narrative very "persuasive", just don't craft it so perfectly.
freshmeat ago
A verifiable lie
Crensch ago
Verify it, then.
freshmeat ago
where have i posted in voatdev?
Crensch ago
No, you made the claim that it was a lie. Verify that it is a lie.
freshmeat ago
it's a lie that i shit post in voatdev like you and you Vindicator alt
Crensch ago
So no proof? What about proof that Vindicator is my alt?
think- ago
Handbook for Radicals 101: Accuse others of what you are doing. LOL.
@MadWorld
fusir ago
There's no way She is still around. Anyone still know where the nudes of her are?
The_Penis_Wizard ago
https://imgur.com/a/lFMGG
Don't share it around too much, don't want these ones DMCA'd too.
fusir ago
Yeah. I'll create my own.
The_Penis_Wizard ago
Don't forget to credit me. I worked hard for these.
fusir ago
I probably won't really share them, but I might. Our comments are burried enough. Could you edit yours with a note so that I see it if I look in my saved?
So what did you do to get them? Did you actually have to get them from her? Just asking because it would be funny.
The_Penis_Wizard ago
Well /u/HomerSimpson was a mod with her at askvoat. The mods there were using telegram to talk. He let me use his account to fuck around and I ended up getting one pic from her. I blackmailed her for the rest. The one with her username is her verification from /v/fatpeoplehate.
There was a lot of begging and crying not to release them, trying to appeal to my better nature, etc.
adhdferret ago
She was a persona just like sanegoatiswear and many others. They are throwaway accounts simply made to start sedition or at least the illusion of it.
The_Penis_Wizard ago
Nah @she was a real person and hasn't come back. No alts, she quit for good.
Womb_Raider ago
I think so too. My personal theory was that @she was friends with SBBH, and they knew she would be unpopular. They started an "organic" push to remove her and looked like good people.
I don't think they are good people.
adhdferret ago
Wasn't it penis wizard that drove the nail in that coffin?
Womb_Raider ago
If so, kevdude took all the credit. I don't remember a user by that name at all, but it has been some time.
The_Penis_Wizard ago
Nah she was fine with all the trolling and SJW talk around her. She quit voat after I blackmailed her for nudes and posted them.
heygeorge ago
TPW is still here.
Womb_Raider ago
Indeed, I found his account a few hours after saying that. He's still active, too.
Vindicator ago
I didn't research that alt -- only saw MYG claiming to be it https://archive.is/uD9q8
Crensch ago
So either he's @she, or he's a liar, right?
The_Penis_Wizard ago
Definitely not @she. She was just some dumb chick, not actually an sjw or anything. Got boogiemanned after removing some CP from /v/askvoat. Didn't care about politics or any of that shit.
Crensch ago
CP? That's not what she was removing. She was removing anything without a question mark when the rule said it must be a "question".
The_Penis_Wizard ago
The big one that set people off and put her on the radar was making a stink over some jailbait. She did more dumb shit after, but that one started it. It's why she was first called an SJW.
Crensch ago
I never heard a thing about that; I'll take your word for it, though.
Vindicator ago
"Just LARPing"?
HateCumbuckets ago
Wasn't her nudes, voats first DMCA takedown request?
@The_Penis_Wizard
The_Penis_Wizard ago
First two. Then I got one on reddit, on the imgur album, and got my sixth or seventh reddit shadowban.
HateCumbuckets ago
Did Atko or Putt ever say anything to you about it?
The_Penis_Wizard ago
Puttputt told me to please just stick to hating fat people, and not causing drama.
HateCumbuckets ago
And there is the difference between voat and reddit. I'm glad you found the time to come back.
freshmeat ago
naw im sane goat you got this whole post wrong.
I fuckin love how I got the most cancerous mods on this website freaking out right now
FreshMeatSpin ago
Watching that karma drop?
gabara ago
"Sar Megahhikkitha" literally means "He became a mujahideen" - This is a threat to Voat. Why do mods of this sub keep deleting posts related to this threat?
https://translate.google.com/?um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob#auto/en/Sar%20Megahhikkitha
The only defense made has been that it is actually Hebrew. Although no one has been able to verify this independently. The only hit found so far on the web is the google translation. But it is fishy that their first defense of him is that "he is a not a secret jihadist, he is a Jew." (remember @SarMegahhikkitha mods a couple of Jewish themed subs: v/MessianicJudaism & v/OrthodoxJudaism)
OR the third defense is that he is Amalek (Old goats will remember the spam attacks on this site, the doxxing of @atko, the death threats to users). One of the subs he moderates is v/amalekvszionism
Why can't we discuss this?
@freshmeat thank you for the continued deletions! You keep this fresh in v/all for me! (And it isn't sliding if I only post one thread. Make sure your excuses for censorship have some basis in reality!)
freshmeat keeps saying "nuh-uh, you're misspelling the word!"
This is false. I will copy my response to him and put it here, since freshmeat keeps deleting our posts on this problem.
It's not at all altered. freshmeat doesn't know anything about transliteration.
The Arabic language does not use an alphabet like English: it uses an abjad. An abjad is a set of symbols that represent phonemes that contain both a consonant and a vowel. You could think of it as having things like
all as single symbols. These then get modified by diacritics (think "accent marks") to change the inherent vowel. So for example, maybe I change it to
Let's say ' represents an O and " represents an A. That changes our word to
Which is Mohammad.
Now this system was developed for Arabic in the 600s or so. It's totally unrelated to the Roman alphabet used by English, Spanish, German and all the rest of the Western European alphabets. To change from this abjad into a proper alphabet, we have to try to map their syllables to our letters. This isn't 100%, as anybody whose taken any foreign language could easily explain. As a result, there are different ways you can transliterate a word.
So when we see
SarMegahhikkitha
we realize that's one of several ways of transliterating the original Arabic into the English language.
However in ALL cases, the original Arabic word
is very much Arabic and very much means "He became a mujahideen"
Incidentally, freshmeat's argument is as stupid as saying "mujahideen" isn't a real word because it's can also be spelled "mujahadeen" or "mujahadin" or "mujahidin" or any of the other transliterations.
freshmeat is a fuckhead who needs to learn basic linguistics.
Crensch ago
I love how the whole website knows you post CP/bestiality and you admit to posting a video of a donkey being raped.
FreshMeatSpin ago
Dat was a sexy donkey, doh!
freshmeat ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2450929/12205249
FreshMeatSpin ago
Down it goes.
srayzie ago
You were trying to act all nice the other day. I knew something was up with you. You’re a sick freak for posting about donkey rape. You talk shit about everyone else but you’re the sick fuck who’s into tranny’s.
You might as well give up. You’re bringing more attention to yourself by trolling. It’s becoming well known that you like beastiality you sick faggot.
freshmeat ago
I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you made it clear your interests lie with SRS/PV.
Oh fuck off. I think all trannies need to die and they are the reason pedophilia is even being normalized to begin with. I post worse shit than what you are referencing, which was a satircal post. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can see that as well, despite it being distasteful.
Yeah sure let me get right on that. Everyone knows I'm not here trying to make a name for myself and I don't give 2 fucks what anyone thinks about me as long as they are honest about stuff like Pizzagate and SBBH/SRS. If I were here to make friends I'd probably go to reddit or some gay shit. The truth is nasty and if you think you can take on some of the shit I've seen from the pedophile groups then you need to man the fuck up and stop playing these SRS games.
I'll never stop exposing shills, and they will never get rid of me. Doesn't matter how many bots they use.
srayzie ago
There is no excuse for posting something like that. Anyone who even views that is a sick fuck. End of story.
You don’t give 2 fucks about what people think? Then why are you replying retard?
Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a shill. You must feel inadequate and have a small dick. It’s obvious you’re mentally ill with some sick fetishes. According to my statistics, that puts you on the high probability of being a whiny little faggot bitch with no life.
freshmeat ago
It's a shock video on a gore website, and it's tame to some of the shit uncovered in Pizzagate. See if PG weren't ran by shills and actually exposed the real dirty shit pedos are doing then you wouldn't be stuck on something like this.
Because you are slandering me, which is something I haven't done to you, yet.
Not necessarily, but anyone who defends SRS is a shill.
Oh lord 😂
Someone sounds fuckin triggered.
srayzie ago
Why would I be triggered? Hmmm. Could it be that I’m an animal lover and feel that anyone raping a donkey should be locked up? We don’t show gore in pizzagate. We keep it legal.
So you go to shock gore sights? You’re digging your hole even deeper you creep. Keep talking and telling us what else you do. People who look at that look at much more. It’s clear that you are one sick mother fucker.
freshmeat ago
You have to know what evil is to fight evil. You are just some clueless asshole who is jumpin gon the SRS bandwagon. You will get exposed, but im trying to go party tonight so I'll have to get back with you later.
And nah, you keep it censored. Pizzagate stems from a previous public investigation before it was subverted by shills, and you are late to the party.
srayzie ago
Go gag on a big dick while you’re out faggot
freshmeat ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witzelsucht
srayzie ago
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Faggot
Crensch ago
All I'm posting is you admitting to it. Keep at it, though. It'll never stop.
freshmeat ago
https://imgoat.com/uploads/12b4ba287f/94829.png
That is some pretty blatant voat manipulation
@PuttItOut @PeaceSeeker when are you going to make a concise effort to end this toxic user's rampage on this website?
Crensch ago
https://kek.gg/i/7cy8Pz.png
You mean like that?
freshmeat ago
Ask @PuttItOut. You could easily be the one brigading yourself and blaming it on me.
FreshMeatSpin ago
Get them Meat, get them! We are both on
ouryour side!Crensch ago
You mean like this? https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2448195
NINE examples of likely brigading there. Enjoy!
Crensch ago
You mean like this? https://kek.gg/i/6QN_kR.png
NotHereForPizza ago
I'm starting to think this is a parody account. Either you're actually a really funny guy and this whole thing has been a joke, or you're actually calling someone else out for brigading.
MY FUCKING SIDES, DAD
freshmeat ago
The accounts that do that are listed in dev mode and Putt can easily verify you are making shit up if he wanted to. Go ahead and use your bots and shit tonight while no one is looking, I'll make sure this gets the attention it deserves when more people are around.
FreshMeatSpin ago
Yeah, Meat is going to get all of you!!!
Crensch ago
You mean your people. Kek.
Womb_Raider ago
Wait, are you accusing him of having a gang with a straight face?
Crensch ago
Either that or a bunch of sock-puppet alts he uses to downvote people and submissions he doesn't like, while upvoting himself.
Womb_Raider ago
And you're making these accusations of other people with a straight face? That's hilarious to me. I can't say for sure either way, but for you guys to be that hypocritical amazes me.
Crensch ago
Got any proof for the claim that we're doing the same thing?
Crensch ago
I'm giving it attention, myself. And I'll be posting your shame again tomorrow. I'll continue until it gets zero downvotes from you and your crew.
freshmeat ago
i never denied i posted a retarded pakistani arab fucking a goat, just like you never denied you hired one named @nadesh to spam posts you pay them to, with BTC. It isn't CP and it certainly isn't glorifying animal rape
think- ago
Spreading beastiality isn't glorifying beastiality?
.....gosh, you should really shut up, man.
With every word you say you're digging your own grave more deeply.
12209597? ago
You are seriously dilussional or just drugged out or a bit weird upstairs with a very far fetched imagination that is often ludicrous in nature to think I am a paid pakistani shitposter?
Which I am definitely...
NOT!
I guess this is your very unique way of just saying hi 👋
Well @freshmeat hi 👋 it’s that easy, no far fetched stories required, okay? Please don’t don’t do this again. Thanks.
freshmeat ago
https://imgoat.com/uploads/12b4ba287f/94835.png
Lmao look at this @PuttItOut. This is clear botting. I told you SBBH have been using pajeets to manipulate this site and here they are working with /v/Pizzagate mods to do exactly that on a slow night on the site.
12209685? ago
You clearly want to to talk to me as
you keep pinging me into this thread
Right? So stop accusing me of all sorts of nonsense and let’s talk.
Come on now, just be straight down the line with your answers, you can do this! :)
heygeorge ago
I know you like to think the best of people, but like many jackasses before him, you will not get answers to reasonably polite direct questions.
Hi Nadesh! This guy is a delusional alcoholic. I have in the past tried to talk to him about it, because this happened to someone close to me. But I fear that once the damage is done and extensive that it is too late.
12217017? ago
Mr George! Thanks for your insight. Yes I always apeal to ones human nature and I still have hope; I guess that’s just me.
I too have lost loved ones to alcohol and I have seen this destructive lifestyle but I have also seen people recover and live wonderfully productive lives. Most alcoholics really do not believe they have a problem; just maybe, maybe he will wake up, I really hope so.
heygeorge ago
You're a good egg!
I fear there is little recovery once someone becomes delusional through alcohol induced psychosis, but maybe there is yet hope.
freshmeat ago
Go fuck yourself moslem.
https://imgoat.com/uploads/12b4ba287f/94833.png
Nice voting bots you guys are pulling out tonight
12209639? ago
It’s okay @freshmeat I have met many people who struggle to form friendships or trust people in general.
Just take a deep breath and ask yourself sincerely; what have I ever done to you to deserve your hateful tongue towards me?
I genuinely ask you...
Crensch ago
Fucking well done, sir.
NotHereForPizza ago
It's almost like you post that each time Vindicator make a post like this... I wonder why that might be.