Something fucky is afoot.
It's been relatively peaceful in v/pizzagate for months, except for freshmeat-style brigading and vitriol every time someone makes a post about the Q Leaks. This was bad enough that users created and moved Q discussion to a new sub, GreatAwakening.
But then, last Saturday, 3/10, QAnon declares "March Madness", hints Merkel is a blood relative of Hitler and implies the Nazi's did not lose WWII. Voat goes down, the chans lock up, and post-maintenance Voat develops numerous bugs. Freshmeat magically shows up like a shark at an umputee pool party and he and several other users seize upon the vote-count bugs to run the "Voat is corrupt and run by pedophiles, you rubes need to migrate" play in multiple threads in PG and GreatAwakening.
I posted in Voatdev to make sure they saw the way the lack of communication about the bugs was feeding the shills and impacting PG. I was able to publicly undermine his pitch to paranoid pizzagate members by getting him to admit he knows nothing about our sub and was making baseless slurs. The vote count remained evenly matched the first day, but two days later, downvoats had doubled on many comments by me and other PG mods and users.
But I believe the picture is larger than this.
Based on the way I've seen the nefarious characters behave over the past year whenever anything with real potential to drain the swamp materializes, I began to suspect that freshmeat and various alts have been embedded in Pizzagate all along.
- Here is freshmeat saying corrupt mods are "the same shit that went down on Reddit before we all got kicked to Voat." https://files.catbox.moe/2ts8lm.png
- Claiming mods and O's are pedophiles that he knows outside of Vote and suppressing investigation by limiting the topic to elite pedophilia:
"Stay vigilant and don't excuse anything that is done in that subverse. It's compromised and this is a very big deal. I know these pedophiles outside of Voat and it pisses me off how easily they subvert our movements online. It's literally too easy for them and pedophiles have way too much freedom here...Pizzagate should be about taking out all pedophiles, not just the epstein tier pedos. There is pedophilia literally on Voat and it's also the HQ for Pizzagate? Think about that." https://files.catbox.moe/33fj11.png
- And trying to get people to leave: https://files.catbox.moe/6pd94j.png. Yet his account only started 8/17/2017.
He began his subverse attacking ProtectVoat on 12/1/2016. He caught my attention because his talking points and tactics are strikingly similar to another user...
I now believe that under other alts, he helped get the Reddit sub shut down, herded the users to Voat, and then instigated a war between the 20,000 horrified mostly-mainstream conservative folks and Bernie jiltees following the Podesta email revelations, and the rough-tongued, censorship-hating old goats of Voat. I personally observed the seeding of suspicion, the MSM "alt-right extremist" narrative push, and the ban baiting of r/pizzagate-turned-v/pizzagate mods worried about being silenced because of it and their subsequent removal, as well as the efforts of @Crensch, @kevdude and others to strike a balance to allow mods to set limits on the shills without compromising Voat's prime directive to allow free expression and depose PC tyranny.
I've repeatedly seen the talking points, brigading, intimidation, innuendo-smearing and disingenuous misquoting of top researchers and moderators first promulgated by armyseer via v/ PizzagateShills uncannily mirrored lately by freshmeat via v/realProtectVoat. Armyseer created a subverse to smear Pizzagate researchers and mods until he drove many them off Voat. Freshmeat created a subverse to smear those who prevented pizzagate from being destroyed --
...on 12/1/2017, the same day QAnon confirmed clues in Trump's Asia video and tweetsand said Phase I of the global swamp drain was complete and public.
I exposed armyseer's tactics and he's been mostly quiet in his numerous DeathtoMasons alts since fully doxing and threatening mod abortionburger with death months ago...until Q picked up steam.
Armyseer, who began his career identifying Amalek alts to win the trust of Crensch and kevdude, progressed to posing as a mod, issuing bans to trigger people so they would freak out, ragepost and get banned for real, left Voat last July. Freshmeat appears two weeks later -- admits to being Amalek in a post to Whatever, then self-deletes. (Check the very first post).
Coincidentally, freshmeat suddenly starts shit-talking and downvoting in pizzagate and GreatAwakening for three pages of his comment history the day QAnon finally reveals the nature of the evil truth that "would put 99% of Americans (the world) in the hospital."
I believe a serious analysis of freshmeat's history in light of the evidence I've presented shows that he is not just an annoying but harmless autist. He is a tenacious and malignant operator, who undermined the original v/pizzagate investigator mods @PleadingtheYiff and @pizzathrowaway777, hunted abortionburger on Reddit as RedditArmyOverseer to the point of being banned there for doxxing and then on Voat as armyseer after she published an article about a 16-year-old allegedly raped by James Alefantis at Comet Ping Pong. He attacked @IsThisGameofThrones who was subsequently death threatened by Alefantis and filed a police report. Then pushed the idea the YouTuber was Amalek.
Freshmeat aka Amalek aka MightyYetGentle aka armyseer aka She is dangerous, protects Alefantis and tries to destroy those investigating him and Voaters who protect them. He's not here for free-speech. As more of the corrupt establishment is dismantled, he will get worse.
Watch your backs.
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adhdferret ago
I don't think it is as nafarious as protecting the ones you seek to destroy. It is more about splitting up your community and causing disruption.
Hell don't you guys have carte blanche to delete shit? Worst that they will do is go to PV and bitch which we will downvote them and tell them to fuck a rake.
Its_ok_to_be_white ago
The same tactics are used all over the web. They want us divided. They want us fighting each other. They want us ignorant. They want us weak.
People pulling together as a community is what they fear the most.
adhdferret ago
I won't disagree with you, but as with most movements that are successful or have been they need leadership and a clear chain of command which is why things like FPH and pizzagate have such high turnover rates with usernames.
They will don't want liability for third actions so instead they make statements, baseless accusations and then so they have no consequence just delete the username.
I am not saying there isn't some fuckery afoot within the system, but I know for goddamn sure that someone would have come forward or the actual police would give credit to these so called investigations.
Haven't seen a fucking thing along those lines.
Vindicator ago
Well, I know of two people who tried to come forward and were crushed. The guy I mentioned in the OP who was allegedly raped by Alefantis, which resulted in his mother (Alefantis' biz partner) leaving not just the restaurant, but I believe the country if I recall correctly (several years before the election). Helping vet him so he could tell his story got one of our mods doxxed, threatened and run off of Voat completely and resulted in her reporting online death threats to her local police.
There was the case of the guy Alefantis called and threatened, mentioned in the OP. He filed a police report in Galveston, which of course has no jurisdiction over crimes committed by someone in DC.
And there was also the guy, @trebillion on Twitter, who went to the DC police to report what he'd found on the Comet server instead of talking about it on social media, long before the fake CP "menu" hacker popped up, or the shooter supposedly trying to "save kids" conveniently fired shots through a locked door into the hardrive of the computer. After seeing this video, I contacted him privately on Twitter to ask a bunch of questions. I find him convincing.
So, yes, people have come forward. Every single one who has, has experienced threats, harassment and public discrediting.
I would say that the reaction of the DC Police -- slow roll trebillion's request for an investigation, send the police chief to the Stand with Comet Pizza fundraiser for a photo op, turn the traffic cameras away from the front of the store just in time for the shooter -- actually DOES show the "police giving credit" to these investigations. The evidence of all of this is in the v/pizzagate archives.
Do you honestly believe the DC police are not in on the corruption?