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tossyokeys ago

I began to suspect that freshmeat and various alts have been embedded in Pizzagate all along.

Have you considered that pizzagate (the thing, not the sub) is a hoax designed to distract from actual pedo activity going on in government, and is designed to discredit future investigations?

Vindicator ago

Have you considered that pizzagate (the thing, not the sub) is a hoax

What are you, the New York Times?

I've been a mod there for over a year, read the vast majority of every post that has come through. There is a mountain of evidence that the elite use child sex abuse to consolidate their power, trafficking kids from Haiti, the U.S. foster care system and numerous other places. There is also evidence CP was found on the Comet Ping Pong server, was reported to DC Metro Police, and they refused to investigate. Shortly afterward, a second hacker reported a similar story which Infowars failed to fully vet and got themselves sideways with Alefantis' lawyers. This little psyop effectively made the first guy's story untouchable by the media who were afraid to be sued. We've documented it all.

NotHereForPizza ago

And yet you show people how to make their posts not get deleted, endorse other retards who promote the same thing, then change the fucking rules to promote discord.

Good mother of fuck, read the words you type.

Vindicator ago

Not really clear what you are referring to. Our rules are complex; of course I show people how to meet them. Retards who promote what thing? And when did I ever change the rules, let alone promote discord?

NotHereForPizza ago

I never really responded, so here:

Our rules are complex; of course I show people how to meet them.

But, from my view, this appears to be more a way to make sure the rules don't apply to you. Beyond that, one of the three main rules for v/pizzagate when I came was "No meta discussion." The most relevant section of today's version of the rules is "Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods." I don't currently have time to dedicate to finding a screen capture of about the time the rules would've shown themselves, but I'd hope that wouldn't make much of a difference to the audience.

Look, at worst, I'm being pedantic with you. I get that. But, you have to understand (and while you seem to have been the most collected and well-spoken of the mods, that I've dealt with anyway, you still seem to turn a blind eye to it at best) there are some among the mod team, if you aren't directly complicit yourself, that are there for more malevolent reasons than what you appear to be at the surface. Don't believe me? That's fine. But, I've grown up in these environments, and was molded by them. Certain methods stand out more than others. That's all that really needs said, I would suppose.

Still though, the pilpul laced semantics bothers the hell out of me, dude.

Vindicator ago

the pilpul laced semantics bothers the hell out of me, dude.

I am trying to understand what this means. What is "pilpul"?

Vindicator ago

Ah. Pilpul = sophistry.

So @nothereforpizza is saying I am mouthing off without saying anything? That seems like pilpul itself to me, since every piece of what I have said in this was based on evidence I found, each of which can be debated on it's merits.

It's fascinating to me that no one responding to the research I have presented seems interested in the primary claim that Voat has termites in the walls.

NotHereForPizza ago

Phrase it how you'd like, it still smells like "this is how you circumvent rules."

Certain people tend to do certain things that alert other people. The key with these kinds of things, specifically, is the frequency.

Beyond that, this was combined with bullshit meta about abortionburger not being a mod anymore or whatever, which I specifically said at the time wasn't front page worthy (which has always somehow been evaded, even when you do this neutral-speak PR shit with me).

The sub drama combined with the meta talk (when there's another sub for that), and the signaling is what makes it stand out.

Pilpul

https://voat.co/v/whatever/2451837/12226707

You didn't respond to this one, but you still make claims like this.

NotHereForPizza ago

Also,

I am mouthing off without saying anything? That seems like pilpul itself to me, since every piece of what I have said in this was based on evidence I found, each of which can be debated on it's merits.

I've specifically done this here:

But, from my view, this appears to be more a way to make sure the rules don't apply to you. Beyond that, one of the three main rules for v/pizzagate when I came was "No meta discussion." The most relevant section of today's version of the rules is "Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods." I don't currently have time to dedicate to finding a screen capture of about the time the rules would've shown themselves, but I'd hope that wouldn't make much of a difference to the audience.

https://voat.co/v/whatever/2451837/12233345

NotHereForPizza ago

While crensch puts his spin on everything like that, it's more a legal discourse word.

Again, this was a reference to the term I dubbed neutral-speak above.

Sure, make claims. I've remained consistent from the moment I came here. My record will speak for itself.