His post here goes through a stupid amount of wishy-washy crap about who's who on Reddit to get to this:
Ping list
That literally everyone could have gotten on simply by asking Srayzie. She offered to do that so people would know when Q posted.
Let me reiterate here:
THIS IS WHY NEON REVOLT DOES NOT WANT YOU USING /v/GreatAwakening
Because the mod asked if some of the less aware users wanted pings when Q posted. /golfclap
Since I abhor the kind of stupidity seen above, I'm going to take this a step further:
Look at NR's words. Look at all of that roundabout shit about users on Reddit, and the LOOOONG story he told you. A WHOLE lot of Q morale boosters and images and links and connections all to get to the above. Morale boosters and TRUTHS mixed in to make it look legitimate for when he tries to pull one over on you.
I really liked the guy until I read that. I KNOW what happened there.
HE FOUND THAT SUBMISSION
... and didn't bother to tell you all that it was a list made by people asking to be put on it? Is that not suspicious to you? On his mic drop, it's an open-invitation list of people to be pinged?
Do your own digging - the links are there. Come to your own conclusions, but NR's post on their justification is a complete lie.
If you want to ask yourself "why?", the idea has been tossed around that your mods don't like the idea of their removals and bannings being publically available on the sidebar on the right. If their job is to control you, hiding such things is necessary, is it not?
Want your DS-tier fix?
How do you make a mod that you don't control look compromised? Do you add suspicious characters to an open-invitation list then use your loudest voice to claim it is some kind of smoking gun?
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Xenophobic ago
V/greatawakening is pretty cool. Plus my post don't get removed by the likes of the great awakening reddit crew.
Crensch ago
Yeah, @srayzie works her butt off to make that place the best it can be, and the Reddit mods wanted control for some unknown reason, but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough.
Type-o-Negative ago
@srayzie effing rawks!
divine_human ago
from my pov, a moderator is the steward of a community. his job is to maintain the board so it stays readable and enjoyable for the users.
a mod is a servant of community, not its leader. everybody leads themselves. the mods serve as models and intent-givers for the board, not as its queens and kings.
i perceive it as a huge blessing that we got banned from reddit. lets put an end to leadership and followership, and withdraw out attention from platforms that are disigned to manipulate the flow of information.
btw, i love open mod logs. much less chances for silent power-abuse. community over-sees its adminitrations actions.
isnt that also the intent behind citizens and government in a republic? government serves the citizens, not the other way around, and citizens observe and evaluate its governments actions.
Type-o-Negative ago
Yeah, Banout2018 really screwed up and I bet they wish they never banned any subs now because it blew up in their faces because now they cant control anything and lost control of the narrative.
“These people are stupid
They hate America” Q
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Athenaethana ago
Hi- I reread Neon's post because of your vitiolic message to see if I'd missed something and though I had it wasn't what you were complaining about. What inspires me to reply to you is that you belittle his process of getting to the ping list as a sort of roundabout who's who at Reddit when the point he's making is that certain users appear to have major influence over all the conspiracy/ government shenanigan talk over at Reddit and that when he got to the aforementined ping list he noticed that one of the main mods at Redfit (Fart on Toast) had found his way here only slightly renaming himself as Lightly Tiasted and Farty Something, and that that looks bad, like perhaps someone is trying to control the narrative here. So if you explain why that is so offensive to you maybe you can enlighten us.
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Jammer78 ago
What if we just let each subforum do their thing instead of attacking or flaming each other?
Crensch ago
Maybe you should address the ones that started it, then? Either way, not my problem. I'll attack whomever I choose at any time because I'm not actually part of any Q community at all.
I just despise dishonesty and people that mislead normies for profit.
LightlyToasted ago
I was specifically maligned without a chance to defend myself. A simple search would have revealed I've been on Voat for over 3 years and joined @srayzie on GA when it was created. Most of my submissions are on PG and their quality (or lack thereof) can be judged for themselves.
Not cool.
srayzie ago
I never suspected otherwise.
LightlyToasted ago
Oh, I know! I'm just put out that Neon Revolt didn't even bother to contact me OR look at my submission history.
Crensch ago
Make a counter hit piece submission. I'd love to read it.
Either way, Neon pretty much necked himself here.
Christosgnosis ago
Voat goats are the easiest in the world to trigger - just post comments that frankly describe their inane, childish behaviors
Trolls love to dish it out but hate when a spot light is shown back on them exposing them for the pathetic figures that they are
Undocumented_User ago
The way I think, people should look to both (or any) subverse and judge for themselves just as Q drop crumbs and we discover things on our own. Be independent, expand your reach and come to your own theory. Then come back to the Q community and let us verify if your theory stands up.
WanderingTaurus ago
That would require independent free thinking which many people are proving they are still incapable of doing so or even wanting to have the ability to do. They still want people to make the decisions for them.
Christosgnosis ago
You call it shilling - I call it holding up a mirror so Voat goats can see what they look like to everyone else
JackHoff ago
No one cares! And you sound like a little cunt with your holding up a mirror bullshit.
Christosgnosis ago
but you care because you're triggered - the words comprising the mirror might be a bit hyperbolic but there's also grain of truth in its reflection
JackHoff ago
Are you still talking? No one gives a fuck!
Christosgnosis ago
JackOff, you care because you keep talking to me - are you lonely?
Hillary_is_a_faggot ago
Attacking Neon Revolt....fucking stupid. Did you not see him obliterate the microchip larp?
Crensch ago
What better way to install yourself as the new Messiah than to attack the current one?
You think that kind of shitty argument flies on voat?
mistahbang ago
Actually, I mod because it just fits really nicely with my schedule and I will gladly put in more hours if I could because.. well....WWG1WGA!!!!!!!! And oops, let me pick my pants back up. Definitely not a place for such indecency. My apologies. Oh, and guess what... 300,000 people would have left if we were doing a shitty job. Or do you claim 300,000 people were too stupid what only you and other top minds were able to discover? And I will gladly leave my post and publish publically any work, research, and messages I have in regards to the Q movement for anyone to judge if the majority was to ever ask me to step away. This includes messages of threats and ridicule. But as Trump says, I gladly take these bullets for you. Just as I know any other patriot would.
For a second, view me as your brother. And we had a disagreement. But in the end you still love me. Thats what this movement is. Recognizing we are on the same boat. And when you rock it, I'm here rocking with you.
copo42787 ago
I like how the faggot @neonrevolt is here. I used to read his site, until he started whining like a little bitch in every article. “I was on a bicycle for 10 miles, and my taint hurts because my boyfriend went too hard! Buy my shit so I can afford something better than vegetable oil next time!” Classy.
sbbhareshills ago
I'll just leave this here.
As you can see with this post PV and SBBH irrefutably stalked serialbrain2's account and organized a -38 downvoat brigade http://archive.is/etFJb . Serialbrain2 didn't actually do anything wrong but PV shills were portraying him as trying to cheat the voat system and ccp farm. He was a voat noob and was trying to explain ccp to other voat noobs https://old.reddit.com/user/SerialBrain2/comments/9ftojk/to_post_on_theawakening_on_voat_you_need_ccp_here/?st=jm3i8f73&sh=81fdc98d . Actual ccp farming takes place from PV and SBBH as demonstrated by their 38 downvote accounts. They spent years sucking up to the admin and volunteer devs so they could get away with stuff like this. Top posts are PV shills doing personal army brigade requests and you can see SBBH in there doing their usual routine.
Ceirwyn ago
Let's see the old Voat swallow that pill. Of course, that would require them being humble enough to look.
heygeorge ago
I attempted to read much that, but the droning is incessant. I clipped this quickly:
That’s an admission of purpose. To control. There were many other flags in the account, but they are smaller compared to the initial posit: We are not Q. We are your Q filter.
Qanonshow ago
Your logic escapes me. Neon Revolt's article served a powerful purpose. In this war of words, Neon Revolt has earned my trust. I'll visit both sites but I am warned about the MODS here. If nothing happens, such as with AJ and Corsi, or Microbrain, then everything is fine. If they do start to deceive the movement as these others have, well, I suspect it will be instantly sniffed out as we've been warned by a trusted friend.
Q62 ago
This post is an obvious attempt to further divide everyone. Same crap DS has been doing for decades. Their greatest fear is we will rise up as one against them.
Rotteuxx ago
Not all that separate imo. They closed down the reddit community but couldn't allow them to fragment & join other Qfag groups because all that hard work they've put into controlling the narrative would have been lost... even though shutting them down was more important.
So by moving into hostile territory and engaging the Voat immune system they were hoping to make sure that none of their sheep would want to stick around here.
Now that 8chan move I can't quite wrap my head around yet but we all know it'll turn out similarly as to what happened on Voat.
With all this, one could wonder if their aim wasn't to simply scare their fragile sheep from going to other pastures at all.
AR47 ago
Their move to another platform is easy to explain. Look back into history of Voat migration and see what else is similar.
Coontown > coontown > niggers > then the purposed subs off them.....
With each migration they lose more membership base.
PacaGoat ago
Now your preaching! Saying things that many of us dance around and avoid saying. This, could be about one thing.....control. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We shall see. Still tho' I hate all of this. Sad!
Mkanon ago
I read neon revolts post I thought he had a point. If you have a community already why would it hurt for us to move the known mods over to a new thread. That way you get to continue as is and we make sure we don't have moles in our mods. Seems logical to me.
Ceirwyn ago
Exactly.
Crensch ago
I bet it does, sock-puppet account.
ExpertShitposter ago
I am offended that the stupid boomer uses aesthetic fascism artwork on his qfag website. That style culturally appropriated from us real radical right wingers who are 30yo boomers and not the fag q real boomers.
He must cease and desist or else....i will kill him with a gun.
kneo24 ago
Finger guns don't count dude, not unless you're trying to finger bang him.
ExpertShitposter ago
I will 9mm barrel bang him.
kneo24 ago
Ah, so you're going to create another front hole.
RedBourbon ago
His "analysis" was as useful as tits on a boar hog.
Cromagnum_Man ago
Are we turning our guns on each other?
Ceirwyn ago
No, just the Clown shills pretending to be one of us.
Crensch ago
Here is the Voat subverse NOT turning their guns on anyone.
Above is absolutely your mods and NeonRevolt turning their guns on Voat and Srayzie in particular.
alcogiggles ago
Nice observation. It seems only intelligent people can figure something like this out, even before it happens. I got the same feeling from the first sentence. LOOOONG post giving you a chance to trust him, basically qualifying his reputation by piggybacking on some Q posts, then boom, gives you the fake news so stupid people won't question his statements. Classic scam artist there. He's a child with a cigar in his mouth.
Crensch ago
Excellent summary.
kestrel9 ago
Agree, NR has gone ballistic in the great echoing halls of namefaggotry.
So r/GreatAwakening +r/xyz has King Sock Puppetmaster Fot a.k.a. Orangutan, for who knows how long and he gets the boot after a couple months. NR sleuth sniffs out @fartyshorts on the @srayzie ping list (thankfully I never requested to be on it or I too would be assumed guilty of spanning subverses across the internet, intent on violating sacredly guarded safe spaces reserved for the 'smartest' researchers and their faithful tribes).
Perspective: I've liked many of NR articles in the past and probably some in the future but I've seen his analysis have mistakes (which thankfully he self corrects IF he catches it). So NR is clearly not infallible and not all that tactful in the midst of 'pulling a Mea Culpa' imho.
However, he has never been the leader of anything for me personally, nor have any popular people associated with decoding Q drops. Zip. Just a stubborn and skeptical person here who loves voat for providing free range of contribution choices. v/GreatAwakening doesn't automatically ban anyone, even AWS.
I know eventually NR plans to write a book, and no I don't care if he does. But is it possible that fact clouds his perspective about Voat?
So aside from the day of darkness NR talks about, they are paranoid about what exactly? Getting banned on here? Splitting the v/GreatAwakening community on VOAT in the event a comped mod infiltrates? We have 2 mods. We have shills, and people who fall on a scale of Q supporting activity. We have lurkers. Everyone is welcome except the shills. Enough users are familiar with each other to provide support against subversive efforts from bots to stalkers or both.
Yes there's the problem of managing a huge group of people coming over, but we were never asked for our input on that before they broke off to create the self imposed exile of v/Theawkening (with much of the same arrogance it seems to me, that I sense from NR.)
Seems to me that compromised, banned reddit communities could learn some of our strengths, but NR has now written us off, before and after the Mea Culpa. So we may get Christmas Cards, if they aren't too busy running The Movement.
I assume the last line refers to TheAwokening (patriotsawoken).
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
btw I read through the whole thing to criticize him and I wanted to point out
this reads like that bullshit report on "russian interference" the DNI one that dropped early in January of 2017 where instead of backing their claims with any evidence they just kept insisting that "We assess" it to be so.
Crensch ago
"News at 9: RDD carpet-bombs NR so badly that NR has disappeared from the internet in a shame-related-AWOL"
NeonRevolt ago
Uh, no.
I chose my words very deliberately.
There's a reason this story was highlighted by BV on /qresearch/ today by the team there.
SearchVoat ago
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SearchVoat ago
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Crensch ago
Because they're either compromised like you are, or they're too stupid to figure out what a bunch of racists on vote figured out.
It didn't escape me that Q himself didn't say shit about your post, but some "team" did.
Your mic drop moment was beyond pathetic, and you should apologize to everyone for your failure to demonstrate a good reason for you to Hold Your Position.
What do you think you look like when your reason for splitting the community is so easily shown to be a farce?
I'll give you a little while to let all of this sink in, and then I will make sure everybody that is in the Q community in any capacity sees you for the community splitter you are. That is, unless you make a real apology to everyone on voat and everyone in the Q community and eat a dish of humble pie.
I calculate that's about the best result you're going to get out of all of this.
SemperFortis99 ago
Don't worry. NR, won't repond, when people show they will continously stand up to him. This is now his safe place because /v/ta mods turned off the down vote function, or they are blocking some users from using it. I would never trust their utopian 8chan board for famfags!
kneo24 ago
I dunno man. This tells me he chose to deliberately sow doubt and discord between two communities looking to do the same thing.
MANUALROAM ago
he probably chose his words carefully and then was surprised when those words found the reality of the world. everyone is a victim of mind control - the mind controlled happened BEFORE anyone currently alive was alive... humans consistently and summarily act as the result of pre-programming from our earliest age. [it is difficult to know who are [the agents of control] [and who are the ones that are just caught in their sway] [or in the sway of their own false realities]] [[double metaphorical killbox]]. my personal theology is that jesus will ultimately determine these things and in the meantime our best chance to discern is to thru the holy spirit (but this is often specific to us and revealing of our own failing in comprehension, context and empathy - in other words lots of people point out the importance of self observation to other people but no one does it themselves).
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
it's this one btw it's 25 pages and they say "we assess" 20 times, and it's of course evidence free. The fine work of the US "intelligence" community.
PandaFukung ago
Im in both just waiting for some good Q research related posts. enough with this bs its been two days. let people choose what they want instead of trying to force it. its all going down anyway. divided we are.
Crensch ago
"Stop attacking NeonRevolt because reasons. Let him keep manipulating people and never call anyone out because it's a TOTAL distraction!"
4TheRepublic ago
butt hurt ... need i say more?
Crensch ago
No, but you should probably read my submission, since it's obvious that either you didn't read it, or have a reason to pretend it's a nothingburger.
4TheRepublic ago
I read your submission. And I read NeonRevolts submission.
If I had thought your submission were a nothingburger, I would have 'said' that your submission was a nothingburger.
Thus... my "butt hurt ... need i say more?" stands
Crensch ago
Excellent!
Well then. Perhaps I misunderstood your comment.
Then I guess you do need to say more.
BaabaaraFavaBeans ago
I find it amazing when people like you mouth off after seeing a bit of information. It looks like NeonRevolt is correct about the GreatAwakening here on VOAT. In fact I will go one step further and head over to 8Chan directly, deleting my accounts at VOAT. I have seen nothing but Butt Hurt people since being trying out these subs. If you are clowns trying to herd us, so be it. In the end we all know that the Clowns will be no longer. Cheers!
Crensch ago
Wow, that doesn't look like a paid advertisement or anything. No sensible person having read my submission would respond as you have, unless they're either in on it, or paid to lie.
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
Hello, NeonJew!
Shizy ago
Her comment had the tone of someone who was talking to the cable company and trying to explain why she's so upset she's cancelling her service and wants a reduction on her bill! That was phony as hell!
South_African_Anon ago
I follow about 4 different people and if one gets too emotional of off topic that person gets dropped, I refer directly to QMAP and 8ch and get updates and commentary from others. I do not live in the USA so I need some background info on the players and the law etc, so I don't think that you need to "help" us out with bashing anyone, I think those of us on this board are a little more wide awake than the average Joe
Crensch ago
I'm going to show you exactly how stupid you sound here:
Look to the right at the number of subscribers here.
Go to /v/GreatAwakening and see how many subscribers are there.
Who is it that told all of you refugees to come to this subverse? Are you really that awake if you followed him, and he was so easily caught by some Voat goat?
Hell, check the comments here - goats are ripping this guy, who caused this subverse to be the biggest one, to pieces. The subscribers here are awake? They're deluded.
South_African_Anon ago
"The great awakening" has 5300 and "awakening" has 5600, I get confused between the two. I will stick to the Q referenced one which ever that is.
Crensch ago
Neither of them, from what I've seen. Q himself didn't reference either one. You're being lied to by the people that run qmap.pub.
South_African_Anon ago
qmap that was where I linked across. either way, I am here to stay till the next eviction
PolitiJim ago
Been on Voat since the r/purge and don't see how it's going to keep Q followers I only have 80 some "up votes" with content commenting and ZERO CCP's (whatever the he'll they are) to even be able to interact. All these differing quarreling factions make me question EVERYONE. Who had the time to follow every research project as to which one is taking the truth. Very discouraged at losing a chance to interact with the Q community outside of 8chan
Crensch ago
All right, I'll be a nice guy for once and help you out.
My submission has a bare minimum of bullshit needed to suss out your own conclusions. The evidence is there, and it speaks for itself. 1 minute of your time, tops, unless you read NR's submission.
You don't get CCP or SCP here because your mods made this subverse that way. They wanted to hide you from the truth outside of their bubble, IMO.
/v/GreatAwakening is a bunch of Q-loving people that are helpful and friendly, and many of them are your compatriots from Reddit.
SandHog ago
The mods here set this sub to private so any points gained here won't count towards site-wide Comment Contribution Points. Go post some comments elsewhere to raise it up. v/GreatAwakening for the other Q place or just go to v/all/new. Or get them to change the way the sub is set up so points will count.
PolitiJim ago
Great way to completely snuff out the non-board Q community.
SandHog ago
It snuffs out the board community too because noone can ever accrue ccp here unless they go of this board and gain comment points elsewhere. You could get a million points on this board and still not be able to make a post.
PolitiJim ago
Exactly. It's almost intentionally designed to eliminate actual participation. I understand the concern over trolls but if it were me - I'd allow at least a critical mass aboard - warts and all - and then have mods do extreme purge every week or two before implementing these measures.. I'm now primarily back on Twitter following a very few accounts to get color on research...
MolochHunter ago
In his article today he posts of the actors who compromised Reddit “And we believe that these deep state actors were ready and waiting for us to fall into their trap at /v/GreatAwakening.”
Mr Revolt goes on to discuss his misgivings about an Anon know as FartOnToast, however, in the evidence regarding his subject, there are no dealings Fart On Toast has with us here in this particular Q advocate Voat sub
Mr Revolt provides no other evidence or even allegation that is specific to this sub as to why he thinks it may be compromised, or what Mr On Toast has to do with us here, unless it was unbeknownst to use by way of an alternatively named user profile.
I have personally had no dealings with Mr On Toast, and I'm unclear if @Srayzie has.
Certainly, our searchvoat utility reveals no discernable character here in Voat https://searchvoat.co/?t=&s=&u=FartOnToast&d=&df=&dt=&nsfw=off
I remain willing to offer or accept an olive branch from Neon Revolt, or otherwise I'd invite him to be more explicit in any misgivings or allegations
Muntanolva ago
Hey there, may I offer an alternative view that I do not think is being considered from Neons blog?
I believe what he is trying to say by v/GreatAwakening being "compromised" is that he suspected that sockpuppet accounts were made on Voat long in advance to get passed the restriction filters, so that when everyone moved over to their sub, they could effectively silence key posters by downvoting with their various alts. Making an alternate sub with its own voting rules circumvented this possibility from happening.
I'd like to add that I find the above completely plausible and reasonable, especially because of personal dealings I have had with FartOnToast myself. I had always trusted him up until two days before the Reddit bans. He had always been a big proponent of SB2, and created an alternate GA sub on Reddit, claiming that the original was censoring people. I had lightly called out concerns on SB2s illogical posts, and was always brushed off, but two days before the ban I personally requested that Fart look into SB2 more seriously and listed a somewhat comprehensive list of concerns to be had with him. I was then banned by Fart for not breaking any rule and told me he wanted any dissent of SB2 to be taken up personally instead of publically on one of his posts. Said I was dividing the cause.
I told him we have enough evidence to expose him and his team as the psyop it is, then I made a submission describing how downvote brigades could be used into training us to accept suspiciously downvoted posts as truth, when it may be a psyop. The next day all of the boards are gone. Am I crazy to think I may have had a part in triggering this supposed psyop to nuke the boards?
Either way, Neons distrust for FartOnToast came as a very pleasant surprise to me, as I thought I was in the vast minority in thinking he was a psyop instead of the opposite.
Jammer78 ago
SB2 got credibility for exposing Corsi. Now you are getting cred with me for exposing SB2. NR has gotten cred with you for exposing FOT (who supported SB2). How about this. The first subforum to ban SB2 wins :)
Muntanolva ago
While I'd love to no longer see SB2 posts with a plethora of blind followers claiming "I don't get it, but I'm so glad you do!", a ban would just give him more cred to those that would see it as such. I'd like to see diligent arguments against the likeliness of his "connections" flooding the comments every time he posted instead. I try for some of them but I just don't have the time or will to actually read AND understand what his connections are AND take the time to refute every single one.
Jammer78 ago
You gave me a good idea. Each post I will just pick the first ridiculous connection and post a reply mocking it.
MolochHunter ago
It's not a bad theory, except that sock puppet accounts have a limited allotment of downvoats and comments per day (can't recall the exact number) . So they'd have to create a shitload of them to make an impact, but it's feasible and indeed Srayzie has been battling a mob of them since Jenny Moore's death. But if that's all neon meant by it, it was an exceedingly clumsily expressed concern from a diplomatic standpoint, and given the total failure to engage and reciprocate with Srayzies many goodwill missives, it's frankly piss-poor
Muntanolva ago
I wouldn't be so quick to discount what could easily be attributed to caution as nefarious.
MolochHunter ago
well the language he used seemed to comport that the core or entirety of GreatAwakening was compromised. If he meant to imply that voat in general was used as a springboard for sock-puppets that did not come across in his choice of words as he specifically implicated GA as 'setting a trap'
Muntanolva ago
I went back through the whole article again to look for anything that could be suggestive and I could only find these two statements that addressed v/GreatAwakening directly:
"...We believe this group uses a number of sock-puppet accounts mask their efforts, but with a little bit of sleuthing, the patterns became quite clear to us. And we believe that these deep state actors were ready and waiting for us to fall into their trap at /v/GreatAwakening. And it all starts with the ridiculously-named redditor, u/FartOnToast...."
"Look who was waiting for us all to arrive at GreatAwakening on Voat: Fartyshorts and lightlytoasted. Yeah, looks like sockpuppets to me, too. Whether Srayzie, who runs GreatAwakening on Voat knows it or not, she’s likely already been infiltrated."
And then this statement from his previous article:
"...I know that /v/GreatAwakening already exists. I’m also aware of /v/PatriotsSoapbox, and others. But I don’t really know those people. Understand: that’s not an implication of their character. They could be very fine, upstanding people doing their best. But if we’re building something and I don’t know you, I don’t know if I can trust you, long term..."
I couldn't find anything suggesting that he thought either the core or entirety of GreatAwakening was compromised. I thought he was actually careful to express that he did not know whether the moderators even knew that they had "likely" been infiltrated. He did not implicate GA was "setting a trap" but that a trap was likely waiting within GA.
MolochHunter ago
i wasnt privy to that former post, that mitigates it i suppose
NeonRevolt ago
Thank you. At least someone gets it.
Muntanolva ago
Thank you for your reply Neon, I was actually considering trying to get a hold of you somehow to share my interactions with FartOnToast with you. I honestly almost did before your article because I wanted to give a warning of suspicion.
Please be suspicious of SB2, as the two accounts I've seen defend him tirelessly, ive also had questionable interactions with, FartOnToast and C_L_I_C_K.
BuilderAnon ago
The other side of the story: http://archive.is/TIHkH
SemperFortis99 ago
Thanks for putting out the evidence. It's what a lot of us knew for a while. Just wish people wouldn't blindly follow famfags!
Crensch ago
Follow your link; I doubt it's what you thought it was.
BuilderAnon ago
Archive links of:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DrainTheSwamp/comments/943qbe/i_have_just_stepped_down_as_a_moderator_from_ga/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/DrainTheSwamp/comments/9fwq84/neon_revolt_blasting_some_of_the_mods_here/
BuilderAnon ago
What do you mean? The other side of Neons story from FartOnToast him self.
Crensch ago
Never had an issue with archives loading for me. I take it you see the actual webpage and not the big black spots I do?
BuilderAnon ago
I see the pages.
Crensch ago
Apologies, then.
Direct links seem good, thanks.
BuilderAnon ago
How many shit posters does it take to link to a web page?
EmmaS ago
Time to bounce! Outta here.
Crensch ago
?
SandHog ago
You had the audacity to dare question an idol, I guess.
Pickzilla ago
Pardon me for being a dumb cunt, but might I ask wtf is the diff between TA and GA?
Crensch ago
/v/theawakening = TA
/v/GreatAwakening = GA
Pickzilla ago
Yeh I got that message loud n clear. But why 2 subs? Confuses us dumb cunts.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
your mods from reddit are so interested in controlling you they divided your community
Pickzilla ago
Not my mods. Could give a cunt about them. I used redtwit for info during my 1st stage of holy shittidness. Nothing more. Now I'm here to listen, learn. Never read neon revolt's post. I think I'll go read it and see what my gut tells me about his intentions.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
try using the rest of voat a little bit, I laid out some stuff and some evidence for it here if you want to keep an open mind and try learning stuff
Pickzilla ago
Why thank you. That's helpful. Luckily for me I already took the dirty jew red pill.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
good job, but seriously feel free to look around give v/all a chance
AmericaTrumpsBabylon ago
The Neon Jew cannot resist demagoguery it seems. Sad. God forbid we try to come to our own conclusions or go directly to the source. Calling it now v/TheAwakening becomes clueless boomerposters being told what to think
HateCumbuckets ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2718778
Are they sure about that?
AyeDeux2 ago
Use both
Boom, done.
Crensch ago
Not the point.
Read my submission to learn something.
Boom.
patrat102 ago
I think Neon Revolts last article (Surviving the Onslaught, Fighting for Victory! #PatriotsAwoken #Voat #QAnon #GreatAwakeningwas) very fair and it explained a lot about what was happening with the boards and wolves in sheep clothing sneaking in and deliberately sowing discord. It only makes sense to go over to the new 8 chan board set up for us and to at least familiarize ourselves with it in case voat gets taken down as 25+ other boards did. Besides it would almost seem ungrateful not to since it was Q and team that had it set up for us. WWG1WGA. Let's not fight each other let's fight the true enemy.
Crensch ago
Can you link me to where Q said he set that up for you? Or did your mods tell you that?
LITERALLY WHAT I ADDRESSED IN MY SUBMISSION SHOWING HIM TO BE A SHADY FUCK. Try again.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
a lot of them said that to me while I was bullying them, that they had to be on v/theawakening because it's the subverse Q picked himself or something to that effect
Shizy ago
That sounds very cultish of them!
Crensch ago
Their mods or NeonRevolt told them that. I haven't seen evidence of a Q post on that- they've been called out for lying about that, too.
I could hypothesize that those usernames are the shill accounts designed to sway public opinion and convince the normies.
NotTheMeanest ago
Neonrevolt has brought together a LOT of great decodes and info on his page, and has repeatedly told people to do their own research. I think this shakeup has been a good thing, because ultimately it gets people to question EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE.
RoundWheel ago
Sadly, that's exactly how moles operate. The best lie is a lie couched between two truths.
NotTheMeanest ago
Q definitely promotes discernment, ‘if you have eyes to see’ etc
Crensch ago
I thought his blog posts to be very informative in the past, and I can get behind that sentiment of questioning everyone. Recently had to rip a user I liked to shreds over the same kind of thing - it sucks, but is necessary.
Cheers.
NotTheMeanest ago
I agree - the sooner that more people become disillusioned with being told what to think, the sooner they will wake up to the reality of life on earth now - not their idea of it based on teLIEvision and msm crap.
Thanks for your post too, forgot to say that in my comment - you got my last upvote for today! ☺️
Crensch ago
If anyone ever asks you who is, point them to me.
NotTheMeanest ago
And if you ever feel like you are losing hope, this video is awesome - and my very first Voat submission!
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2721343
Crensch ago
Not my style, but keep it up; you'll get better at it as you practice.
NotTheMeanest ago
Haha, fair enough! I’m just waiting to hit 100ccp before unleashing my research on v/vaccines - reddit hivemind was waaay too conditioned, but I have high hopes for Voat!
Shizy ago
If you have 10 CCP you can post your vaccine info at v/GreatAwakening.
NotTheMeanest ago
That's a great idea - and it's Q related due to the drop which said
I personally think the NOT ALL is genius, because it will get people to research to figure out which vaccines are safe... and in the course of their research they will discover that NONE have been proven safe, individually or collectively.
I mainly want to get to 100 first so I can downvote any useless comments like 'Your retarded.' Wrong 'you're' for the realistic effect.
Shizy ago
Others have posted about vaccines on that sub. Most feel pretty much the same way about the dangers- or that they need to be questioned at the very least. You will get some shills and general assholes who can't break through their "vaccines are good" brainwashing. I will help you downvoat them!!!
NotTheMeanest ago
Legend! I don't mind provaxxers having their say, because it's easy to show that they know jackshit and are literally regurgitating propaganda - and as a longtime lurker myself, that's who I'm really trying to prompt to verify what I write, or at least become aware that not all is as the msm/govt try to tell us.
Shizy ago
This is a good platform to spread those messages. Most of the genuine users tend to be open minded and willing to look at an opposing viewpoint as long as it is backed up with facts.
Crensch ago
If you're anti-vax, you might be in the right place. I've not paid too much attention to it, but the idea is at least accepted as plausible by most.
NotTheMeanest ago
I'm extremely antivax. The idea is plausible because (((they))) have been using medical textbooks to filter the propaganda through the 'authoritative' paediatric associations. There's nothing wrong with the theory of inoculation (the Ancient Egyptians being the first documented to have used it) - but it has been perverted and corrupted to such an extent, that vaccine science is at best laughable, and at the worst, part of the depopulation agenda.
Crensch ago
I think you'll do just fine here.
NotTheMeanest ago
Haha, i feel like ive found my online home - have barely been on fb since finding this place!!
HateCumbuckets ago
Thanks for the ping. Not much I can add atm. You really hit the nail on the head.
Crensch ago
Thanks! Just wanted you to see it since this place is hidden from the rest of Voat; no additions necessary.
HateCumbuckets ago
I just can't believe they still can't work out the hostility. They steamroll in with that reddit mentality of controlling the narrative with bans and submission deletions, in a place that values transparency.
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
Archived version, just in case the jew tries to edit.
srayzie ago
@Googlestolemybike what about an archive for me? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2721409
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
I got you.
Crensch ago
Thank you for that! I didn't even think of it - how absurd of me.
Really appreciate the backup, bud.
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
No problem.
acmbandit01 ago
Try this one and maybe give the guy a break. Sounds like we had 300,000 patriots on r/GreatAwakening and he admits to making some mistakes moving here: https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/09/14/surviving-the-onslaught-fighting-for-victory-patriotsawoken-voat-qanon-greatawakening/
Crensch ago
Do you have reading comprehension issues?
I linked exactly that in my submission, and that is the blog post I had a problem with. I would have given him a break *if he hadn't shown himself to be either really stupid or utterly compromised.
I bet you didn't read my submission, did you? You should try it. The evidence speaks for itself.
acmbandit01 ago
My Bad. I read your post, missed your link, "here" and thought you were referring to a poor post he did early promoting one sub over the other. You and I read the same latest post, I get what your saying. I just had a different take.
Crensch ago
Cheers for admitting you're wrong; rare quality these days.
Feel free to continue with your disagreeing of whatever I've said with the newfound information.
acmbandit01 ago
Now how do I get over the 10 comment points hump so I can actual post or send a message??
Crensch ago
Comment in another subverse.
The mods here tried to hide away from Voat which causes the CCP/SCP gained here to not count for the rest of the website.
BeefBourgignon ago
I won't pretend to have read most of his post, but the first chunk sounds a lot like what we're experiencing in real life with the push for increasingly degenerate behaviour being permissable in public, like with those fucky drag queens reading books to kids. Less than 10 years ago they told us they just wanted to get married, now they're propagandising and grooming the kids.
This NR wants special treatment because the whole pack of Reddit refugees just need to adjust to the culture here? He thinks he's the gatekeeper to some mystical Q research and analysis? Pffft.
We'll see, bud. The cream always floats to the top. Might be here, might be 8chan. Might be that the internet gets nuked cuz of that supposed giant sunspot that's going to supposedly fry us all.
Also, I thought vote manipulation (asking for upvoats) was no bueno. You can't ask for that stuff and be taken seriously. . . right?
HouseHawkwood ago
Piggy backing here: if they need to adjust to the culture then they need to lurk more with additional instruction that they if the are unwilling to fully embrace the culture then simply do not respond to it.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
it's not like you need to be just like everyone else on voat, honestly there's a lot of different people here. If they stopped censoring people, stopped trying to farm upvoats and left their hugbox more they'd have no problems
Hand_of_Node ago
This is way off-topic, but...
As far as underhanded mod drama goes, especially mods approved and accepted as mods by reddit in [CURRENT DAY], I feel slight sympathy for their victims, but one should simply not be a credulous dumbass. Maybe a superfluous point, given the subverse, but tales that seem too good to be true should be a clue.
sosat_menya_reddit ago
I read this faggotry too. The fact is the same compromised mods that were fucking the masses on Redshit wanted to fuck them here.
Lay down with a Jew and you will wake up broke. Some dumbfucks just don’t get it.
WanderingTaurus ago
Who do I need to lay with to wake up rich? Asking for a friend.
sosat_menya_reddit ago
Someone with a lot of money, a smart lawyer, is high profile, and married
I guess you better start messaging POTUS
WanderingTaurus ago
I was just being facetious. I am very happily married.
Regarding the POTUS though, pretty sure he didn't fuck Stormy. I think their connection was merely for inside info with all the dirty people she surrounded herself with and she was very willing to sell secrets for once rather than her body. She probably wasn't smart enough to realize where Trump would be in the future with the information she handed to him.
sosat_menya_reddit ago
I was joking of course and don’t have an opinion one way or the other about whether POTUS is faithful. He just fits the profile of who someone would be able to get rich from fucking or even just by making the claim.
SandHog ago
So many crickets.
Is NeonRevolt on the modteam? Because the way that is written it sure sounds like it. I particularly liked how conciliatory that article starts out only to end with v/GreatAwakening is totally comped, you guys.
All of this could easily be resolved with a little honesty and transparency. I gotta say that I'll not be holding my breath though.
sbbhareshills ago
Thats because /v/pizzagate and /v/greatawakening are comped I'll just leave this here.
As you can see with this post PV and SBBH irrefutably stalked serialbrain2's account and organized a -38 downvoat brigade http://archive.is/etFJb . Serialbrain2 didn't actually do anything wrong but PV shills were portraying him as trying to cheat the voat system and ccp farm. He was a voat noob and was trying to explain ccp to other voat noobs https://old.reddit.com/user/SerialBrain2/comments/9ftojk/to_post_on_theawakening_on_voat_you_need_ccp_here/?st=jm3i8f73&sh=81fdc98d . Actual ccp farming takes place from PV and SBBH as demonstrated by their 38 downvote accounts. PV and SBBH probably have the largest downvote brigade on voat. They spent years sucking up to the admin and volunteer devs so they could get away with stuff like this. Top posts are PV shills doing personal army brigade requests and you can see SBBH in there doing their usual routine.
brandon816 ago
By your own admission, he posted a link to a thread elsewhere organizing an upvote brigade for himself. Other users saw it, and began to downvote his account.
If it was okay to upvote brigade someone, then it is okay to downvote brigade them. If not, then neither were acceptable. Either way, you can't complain about this, unless you are also complaining about what serialbrain2 did as well. Anything else is double standards.
abattoirdaydream ago
Brigading from other subs over internet points =/= the brigaded subs being comped? I'm not saying they are immune to GETTING comped, I'm just saying that is not proof, and I personally have not seen evidence that they are. I was very suspicious during the PG kerfluffle too...but that sorted out.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
that's also something annoying here he never mentions if he's even on voat himself or not
Crensch ago
He did in his previous post - said his moniker was @NeonRevolt
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
helpful now I can bring my criticism directly to him
Crensch ago
I should have pinged him. Forgot all about that until just now since he sounded like he was part of the mod team here in the one linked above.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I just went to his post on their subverse and commented directly I really don't care about the deep lore about which one is compromised or whatever, so far v/greatawakening seems better because they act less like redditors
Crensch ago
My entire problem here is that the more I read his post, and the more others read it, the more shady and suspicious as a bad actor he looks.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I mean the whole Q thing seems suspicious imo, but unlike Q I'm anti war/foriegn intervention so maybe I'm biased
Crensch ago
If what Q says is true, the bad actors control many countries that would/could war against us - it'll come to you anyway if you don't do something. The previous regimes/alphabet leaders did a fantastic job of creating wars everywhere - could a group determined to keep peace accomplish their goals in the same way?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I'd say saudi arabia and israel are the countries controlled by bad actors creating war tbh
Crensch ago
I agree. SA had a regime change supposedly already, and will not be a threat. NK also had its strings cut, supposedly.
Saving the best for last is also something that was mentioned - Israel.
Even if you're not into it, there's some interesting shit that is more entertaining than almost anything I've come across in my life.
Some guy I heard on BitChute said something like "Troll, LARP, or Legit, Q will become legend" - and that your grandchildren will ask where you were when the Q phenomenon happened.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I notice this and that I enjoy my internets so who knows I might dig into it at some point, oh btw if you're involved with all the Q stuff tell the newfags to stop trying to game the system
Crensch ago
Not with any of them - I go to the source and don't engage with the community.
Vindicator ago
I've found that is the most efficient route, as well. :-)
Crensch ago
Got a live one.
Crensch ago
It does, doesn't it?
Yep. Total tone change - good eye!
It would. And I'm glad you won't be suffocating to death today.
SandHog ago
I'm surprised they haven't deleted this entire sub out of shame, yet. Or is that possible on Voat?
The longer this goes on the guiltier they look.
MrPim ago
It is possible to delete a sub here. To do so you must delete all of the threads within that sub. When that is done it will autodelete. It takes awhile, it seems to happen sometime overnight.
SandHog ago
I see, thanks. That outta keep them busy for a while at some point.
Crensch ago
I think it is. Not really sure. The problem for them is that it's been archived. All of it.
SandHog ago
Oh, good. Nothing I hate more than gaslighting faggots. Except maybe Progressives.
Ah, who am I kidding? They're the same fucking thing.
Crensch ago
Read the first line and thought exactly what you wrote in the second; not bad.
SandHog ago
It's impossible to find any meaningful separation between the two.
mattathias ago
Hi
Why does your team hate our team so much if we are on the same side? Who are your are leaders? Who gives you your marching orders? Is it organic? Does your team mods have sock puppet avatars that stretch across multiple boards and multiple platforms? Are they paid and/or are they salary. Not a question. How can one mod with sock puppets manage and moderate one, two, three dozens of boards across the Internet. We know. They are not voluneteers.
"I really liked the guy until I read that." Yeah, right. Bullshit. I liked my wife until I read that... I liked my best friend until I read that... I liked my sister until I read that. If you are so trite to discount a friendship/likeability because of a difference of opinion... Hmmm.
1JUDGE4ALL ago
Hi
I just registered and am taking my first look at voat. If it hadn't been for the ban at reddit I might not have ever been here at all. It's a bit unnerving to see threads like this welcoming everyone on the first page, but maybe that's not the norm here...at least I hope it isn't.
Your team, our team, what difference does it make? Can we all just agree on some sort of common direction and take our own route there without destroying each other along the way? Is it necessary to make a special trip to a board you don't like just to tell everyone you don't like them?
Just try imagining your sub being deleted not once, but twice. We had a pretty large group before and kinda wanted to keep what we had instead of swamping someone else's community. Honestly, I don't know about the whole mod thing, but there were plenty of fine folks where we were before that are arriving here. Can we just give it a chance while everyone settles in?
sbbhareshills ago
As you can see with this post PV and SBBH irrefutably stalked serianbrain2's account and organized a -38 downvoat brigade http://archive.is/etFJb. Serialbrain2 didn't actually do anything wrong but PV shills were portraying him as trying to cheat the voat system and ccp farm. He was a voat noob and was trying to explain ccp to other voat noobs https://old.reddit.com/user/SerialBrain2/comments/9ftojk/to_post_on_theawakening_on_voat_you_need_ccp_here/?st=jm3i8f73&sh=81fdc98d. Actual ccp farming takes place from PV and SBBH as demonstrated by their 38 downvote accounts. They spent years sucking up to the admin and volunteer devs so they could get away with stuff like this. Top posts are PV shills doing personal army brigade requests and you can see SBBH in there doing their usual routine.
CantBuySkills ago
I read your statement and then looked at your uovoats... Jesus fucking christ, I'm in v/thetragedy. It's not a difference of opinion, it's a difference of principle.
WhiteDragonMage ago
good boy fall back in line. do as your told
mattathias ago
How many dicks do you suck a day?
WhiteDragonMage ago
sure we have free speech here but all of your above hateful comments clearly show that you lack the intelligence to have an actual debate. youve been analyzed. you are weak. when is the last time you had something important to say?
srayzie ago
Does it look like I hate your “team”?
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2721409
ordinarymike ago
Take me to your leader....kek
Hand_of_Node ago
"We're" not on the same side; You're reddit-tier. You and your mods were literally reddit users until they kicked you out, and if they hadn't, you'd still be there... Perhaps you can't smell your own stench, but it's overwhelming to anyone still having a sense of smell. Thanks for bringing that over here without even bathing first.
As far as your cult goes, I've seen a lot of cults come and go, but have no interest in "rescuing" anyone. You (and everyone) deserve the consequences you create for yourself.
mattathias ago
Hi
;)
Mistaken.
Are you the metric to guage the opposition here, this board. Is your team, are they truly Q researchers? Did Q ever say to back up your data because the boards are compromised? Yes they did. So if Q said to protect against coming censorship, how is that consequences that we created.
You are a traitor.
Hand_of_Node ago
What board? This is a web site on the internet.
All that "Q" gibberish makes no sense and is irrelevant.
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
Q just posted!!! Don't worry about reading it for yourself though, I'll brave the evil super spooky website/hacker den known as 8chong and translate it for you: He says that we have to gas the kikes and race war now.
mattathias ago
Your mom is first in the oven and we'll have apple pie, that's what my wife told me.
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
Your wife can stay. Your faggot ass has to go back in the shed to do the "research" your jewish bosses demand of you. In fact, give her the controls. She's much funnier than you.
SandHog ago
There is no need for 'teams'. The fact that you are thinking like that should tell you something is wrong. What would be the point of having sockpuppets here? Anyone can look and see if there is mod-fuckery going on for themselves in the logs all the way back to creation of a sub here. All of the transparency so far has been pretty one-sided. Seems pretty easy to resolve if the mods here would care to discuss it.
IGiveZeroFucks ago
lol
FlappyJappy ago
I am the highest ranking anon here
mattathias ago
Do you know who your mods are?
Do they have alts across different platforms?
Has any Mod here at Voat been Mods anywhere else?
Are Mods here at Voat volunteers?
heygeorge ago
Voat ‘knows’ mods through their actions.
Do Voat’s GA mods sell t-shirts or beg for patreon donations/what have you?
What does it matter, so long as content is freely allowed?
See above, the Q capitalizers are selling a bill of goods.
WanderingTaurus ago
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a7/76/0d/a7760dd892596075a32a2cbaa9192e2b.jpg
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
"I demand to see your manager"
Kingmakerbreaker ago
https://youtu.be/vHAbVgpjcMQ
Lol. Seriously though, there is some hurt shitpussy in voat on all sides. One team feels insulted they weren't good enough to merge with, and the newvoats from reddit are shields up from the repotting.
Divide and conquer tactics seem to be super effective....But are we done? I mean, the original great awakening team in voat wasn't trying to shut down the reddit board a week ago, what does it matter now that it's here?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I'm just here to bully redditors tbh, for fun and to keep censorship off voat, idk about the whole Q thing but wouldn't going straight to /Qresearch/ and just following Q himself be the most expedient option of all? why do you even need teams and middle managers?
Necro_clown ago
it's for pooling research.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
they don't do that on 8chan? on the /Qresearch/ board?
Necro_clown ago
it's structured differently. this more closely resembles reddit, so the refugees come here because its less chaotic and loosely familiar to what they're used to.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
so a safe space?
Necro_clown ago
sure.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
why do you all need a safe space, you're all adults I assume and not children? you know haw to talk to other human beings, no? I don't get it
Necro_clown ago
A group of people discussing a similar topic isn’t a safe space. You’re free to come and go as well. That’s apparent by you being here attempting (poorly) to troll. That’s the literal opposite of a safe space. Keep up junior. 😘
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
your mods banned me when I tried to do so and even now that they reversed that they're still protecting you stupid faggots from the voting system. Because they know you're a bunch of babies that would cry if people could show that they disagree with you
Necro_clown ago
Lol like I could give a fuck. You’re talking to the wrong one. Ain’t no one counting karma but you sweet cheeks. Down vote me all you like. Lmao.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I LITERALLY CAN'T DOWNVOAT YOU BECAUSE YOUR MODS MADE IT AGAINST THE RULES TO DO SO HERE YOU DENSE PIECE OF SHIT
Necro_clown ago
IM ACTIVE IN OTHER SUBS- DOWNVOAT ME THERE STUPID FUCK. you can’t even troll correctly. You just look dumb as fuck. Hahaha.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
doesn't change the fact that your mods are protecting you here, you oversensitive faggot
Necro_clown ago
They’re not “my” mods you stupid nigger.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
then why are you here on the subverse they created for you? they're the mods you faggots brought here from reddit
Necro_clown ago
Are you- do you speak English? What about I visit all q subs and Chan’s did you not understand?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
what does that have to do with anything?
Necro_clown ago
Oh so you just have bad reading comprehension. Typical of negros. That explains a lot.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
no you're just not making a point, you use this safe space the reddit mods set up for you, and you don't tell them to drop the restriction on voting because you're a bitch that needs a safe space. That's my point, even if you occasionally peak your head out you still mostly stay here under the protection of your mods nannying because you're scared. If I'm wrong tell the mods to drop the restrictions on voting
Necro_clown ago
Nah. I’m good. I’ll stay in the safe space where big mean bullies like you can’t hurt me in the feelings from their keyboards. Hahahahahahaha
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
well as long as you're aware that you're a pathetic bitch then I guess we agree
Necro_clown ago
You’re just mad you can’t have any of the brownies they baked. Shut up and eat your dirt cake and be happy.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I don't want brownies with fucking semen baked into them
heygeorge ago
They’re primarily 50-something empty nesters, sprinkled with stay-at-home moms, drunk laborers, rapists cleared on a technicality, and (I assume) some of them are good people.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
oof reddit isn't sending their best
heygeorge ago
These are real Americans.
Honestly, they don’t even know how to rebbit their comments on the facebook messages.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
a real human bean indeed
heygeorge ago
Yes, this is the Q ‘movement’. Are you a follower?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
whether real or larp Q called for regime change in iran. Not my thing but i do like bullying redditors
MANUALROAM ago
i was thinking about that - why does the united states always have to have all these opinions on other countries - how is it the right of the united stated to call for regime change on the other side of the world?
heygeorge ago
Make a real account and be genuine or fuck back to whatever agency employs you in eastern europe.
MANUALROAM ago
hey george - what the fuck is a "real account" [you mental giant - nice fucking forehead] - an account is a fake thing on the fake internet. i am right here in california - you fascist, racist, contagious loudmouth
MANUALROAM ago
hahahaha for the record i imagined what you look like and then made fun of you for it
heygeorge ago
Fake and/or Gay
Why do you have these opinions on other countries, including what you allege is your own?
MANUALROAM ago
let me be real clear on the gay thing - you are saying i am gay cuz i called you 'hey george' and it sounds gay - [and you are right - it sounds gay] - that is why i tell you to your fucking face that you are projecting - classic closet case - change your own gay name and stop projecting your own latent feelings. fucking loser. stfu - gthfoohfr
MANUALROAM ago
also - dumbfuck - since you managed to distract me entirely off of the conversation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
MANUALROAM ago
hey george, project much? you are the type of loser troll that debases others by being as ignorant as possible. i am the most authentic person in the world atm and you are something that i need to scrape off the bottom of my shoe. you might succeed in chasing me off this board but that will be a loss for you personally, not a win. i can never expect an inbread hillbilly like you to understand such a thing.
heygeorge ago
I like this. And I see that you called me a fascist and a racist. Ok. I take it all back. You’re now my favorite new Voater. Welcome to the board!
MANUALROAM ago
OK - I don't know what to say - i came here to call you a shithead again - but now it doesn't seem as appropriate
MANUALROAM ago
for the record - even tho i am not completely sure you are a shithead or inbread - i reallly legitimately think you probably are racist and fascist
heygeorge ago
I don’t think it’s productive to be so hard on yourself, unless (like some folks) those are the sorts of labels you’d like attached
MANUALROAM ago
you fucking martian
heygeorge ago
Please, mind your language. Would you talk to @CerealForBranesToo like that?
MANUALROAM ago
if you are not a martian, then why are you so green and grey?
heygeorge ago
Ever heard of Kermit?
MANUALROAM ago
you are a frog? pretty swampy...
MANUALROAM ago
prolly
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
Because of warhawks, oil companies, bankers, globalists, and most of all aipac
NotTheMeanest ago
Exactly!! 😂
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
we're on the side of free speech, and we don't need leaders because we're free. If you're on a different side than that we're not on the same side, individual citizens with constitutional rights don't need a "team"
Jammer78 ago
It is impossible not to have leaders. The flaming and subverting of this sub and NR has been widescale and coordinated. Someone had to come up with and promote the idea to do that.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
it's called being free you communist faggot, and it's very possible
dajomo ago
yeah right, i can see that
Christosgnosis ago
You guys go and tuck behind your "free speech" like it's your mommy's apron
Reality is that you're all a bunch of puffed up pompous asses
Crensch ago
If you're better than us, why are we winning at every turn?
Christosgnosis ago
Voat has been around for years and has gone no where - the sub culture that inhabits it is the reason why
Otherwise, the world is ripe right now for independents to make it big given that all the Bay Area corporate-ran social media have gone extreme Leftist fascism with their censorship collusion
But Voat will miss the boat on this because of the Voat goat denizens - they are an Internet ghetto sub culture that like inhabiting a stinky outhouse and trolling anyone that comes along with their inane Hitler dick sucking and racial slur bs. That is all that they are about. Shit trolling completely defines who and what they are.
Their banter about free speech is just their cover for being a bunch of asshole trolls
srayzie ago
Oh isn’t that why your here? Because you didn’t have free speech? Is that not precious these days?
Christosgnosis ago
Trying to prove my point? All that goes on at Voat is trolling new comers with their inane Hitler dick sucking and racial slur bs. That is the epitome of what a Voat goat thinks free speech is all about - just being a fucking asshole troll
VisKyns ago
What the absolute fuck. How can you be so against free speech? This sounds so much like the people you say your supposed to be fighting.
"free speech."
I guess we were more infiltrated than I thought.
Christosgnosis ago
not against free speech
Am talking about people who do nothing with their free speech rights other than use it to troll other people with their inane Hitler dick sucking and "Muh Racism Is So Cool" bs
Crensch ago
I just used my words to rip neon Revolt a new asshole.
Christosgnosis ago
I use my words to put a mirror in front of Voat goats so that they are reminded what they look like to others - and thus why they'll always languish as an Internet ghetto sub culture
Vindicator ago
Voat goats don't give a fuck what they look like to others. That is exactly why they are able to destroy Shareblue disinfo pushers that try to confuse, discourage, distract and divide.
Christosgnosis ago
which is why Voat remains a permanent Internet ghetto - a minor concern that won't ever amount to anything of consequence
the Voat goat toxic sub culture squelches its own potential
Tzitzimitl ago
my mirror is better than yours
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
oh yeah, me and my constitutional rights. I'm just so mean
Christosgnosis ago
Voat goats don't do a damn thing constructive with their free speech rights - they just use it as their excuse for being trolling assholes
everlastingphelps ago
Timothy 6:20-21
Christosgnosis ago
gnosis means knowledge and knowing, so you're using a Bible verse to tell people to shun knowledge
Well, that certainly wouldn't be a first
everlastingphelps ago
Heretics lie, folks. Anyone adhering to gnosticism is a heretic, and they are leading you away from Christ. St. Paul specifically warned us against it.
Christosgnosis ago
You realize that Paul was a first early Christian that became a follower because of a direct mystic experience he had? The very hallmark of what defined the genesis of Christianity - direct personal experiences/spiritual encounters of Yeshua after he'd been crucified?
Paul's sole authority in the early Christ-followers movement became founded on his personal mystical experience
It was much, much later - into the second century - when a man-devised hierarchy of structured church top-down authority began to be imposed in some circles, but that was not characteristic of the early church when folks like Paul were founding it
And the one Christian writing we have that dates from the first century, the Didache, that is primarily concerned with church organization (i.e., it was not a gospel tract nor an epistle - more of an instruction manual), it depicts churches as being autonomous - there was no over arching authority that wield dogma dispensation to subordinate churches. Every church and its elders had to work out these things as individual congregations. Today there are still churches that operate in that exact manner, such as the Church of Christ.
everlastingphelps ago
Yes, I realize all of that.
And Gnosticism is heresy.
Christosgnosis ago
my point, which went past you, is that the Apostle Paul's very ministry was founded on what is these days regarded as a gnostic Christian precept - individual mystical experience
Valentinius who lived 100 – c. 160 AD, a very prominent Christian theologian from Alexandria, but relocated to Rome where he vied to become a chief bishop of Rome and thus Pope over the church, he said he was taught by a person that had been a direct disciple of Paul. A direct follower of Valentinius crystallized that body of teaching into the writing, the Gospel of Truth, which has now become known to scholars again.
The first commentary, known to history, written on a Christian gospel, the Gospel of John, was written by a Valatinian Christian
In the first 2 to 3 centuries, there is no clear establishment of some single, authoritative church orthodoxy. That wouldn't really begin to come about until the 4th century under Emperor Constantine - and it would still be another full century before the theological victors prevailed in the culture.
At that time there were two principal factions of Christianity - the proto-orthodoxy that advocated behind what became legislatively codified as the doctrine of the Trinity, and then the Arians.
Even as the Trinity Doctrine is what legislatively prevailed, Constantine himself continued to retain his Arian palace bishop. IOW, at a personal level, the theological position of the Arians made more sense to Constantine, but the pragmatism of ruling the empire required unifying the church, and he was okay with the Trinitarians dominating the debate if that is what it took to bring unity to the church, and in turn, he hoped, unity to the empire.
But this was all just a matter of legislative outcomes. which then began to enjoy the endorsement of the Roman state - it was not any self-evident theology that was universal to all Christians as being obvious and self-evident. The Trinity Doctrine itself underwent nearly 2 centuries of evolution from the time it was first being espoused to the point where Constantine convened a counsel and it became ratified. Sadly, early church fathers that were pivotal in establishing the Trinity Doctrine were even later denounced for being heretical as the doctrine underwent evolution from generation to generation of church theologians.
But what was really a terrible scene was how Arians began to be dealt with by the prevailing Trinitarians. Some prominent figures amongst the Arians were taken by vicious mobs, beaten to death and their bodies desecrated - the Christian bishop authority over the city did nothing to restrain the mobs. This really set a bad tone for official state-sanctioned Christianity as would be further revealed in later church-committed atrocities down through the ages. Christians began to transform from being holy martyrs to being vicious, mob-psychology, self-appointed executioners.
everlastingphelps ago
It didn't go past me. It was a non sequitor.
Thanks for revealing yourself fully as a godless heretic.
Christosgnosis ago
well, early church history is marvelous topic to discuss - endlessly fascinating, so very much enjoyed the discourse - thanks
Vindicator ago
Christos, that is a bunch of bullshit. Voat contains the largest, most comprehensive and detailed trove of documented and crowdsourced research on elite corruption and abuse of kids of any single location in the world. The researchers documenting this stuff have repeatedly caused Voat to be subjected to DDoS, doxing, DMCA takedown requests, rejection by payment processors and every other sort of fuckery. The free-speech loving Voat goats you scorn have come to our aid repeatedly -- as "trolling assholes" -- to fight disinfo-pushing shills and keep the platform online.
I've written several threads on this, which you can find in my Submission history.
Christosgnosis ago
And yet Voat has remained a minor ghetto all these years where it could be something by now that starts to rival Reddit
And there's incredible oppurtunity that the California Bay Area social media giants are laying at your doorstep with their Leftist-fascist censorship
But it will pass Voat by
Because the ghetto sub culture of the Voat goats is toxic and doesn't have the brains to see that there's an incredible chance to now really make a difference in the world
ThatsSoJewish ago
If we aren't anything, why are there so many niggers like you posting about how nothing we are? Fuck off back to Faggit.
Tzitzimitl ago
oh no its retarded
Derpfroot ago
"I had my speech taken away, but free speech isn't important to me."
Christosgnosis ago
I despise when people use their free speech rights to do nothing with other than troll other people with their Hitler dick sucking and racist slur bs
And that is all the Voat goats amount to - dipshit trolls
So much for their vaunted free speech - and they're all fucking cookie cutter the same about it. It's as though there's just one asshole running all of Voat and he's created a bunch of fake accounts to use to go and troll new comers spouting the same stupid shit
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
how can you not see how retarded this is? you're literally trying to dictate to people how they should be free. Can you even define freedom?
Christosgnosis ago
Dude, there's fresh Q drops so am getting my attention back to that instead of wasting any more time with the hopeless Voat goats crowd
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
can you really not understand why you recieve such poor treatment when you act like this?
Tzitzimitl ago
anybody staying on reddit after all those wrongthinkers got holocausted is probably not very smart
Christosgnosis ago
I'm not complaining about my treatment personally - I fully expect the wretched Voat goats to be triggered by my calling them on their sordid shit
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
shit like letting you in after reddit kicked you to the curb?
Crensch ago
I like how the best argument you have is a tone fallacy where you ignore the content of our words because delivery method hurt your feelings.
Christosgnosis ago
The dip shit Voat goats keep pushing their troll shit on everyone that they claim is invading their space - even when there's a sub forum set up to where they can just ignore it. So there's no invading of the space of the old goats. It's the exact reverse.
If they would keep their Muh Love of Hitler Dick Sucking and Muh Love of Despising Other Races in all the other forums they inhabit, then it wouldn't matter.
But Voat goats aren't libertarian in their beliefs - they're just like ANTIFA fags in their mentality - always trying to shove their shit onto others when it's clearly not being invited
heygeorge ago
Lol seriously like 4 real!
Christosgnosis ago
If you Voat goats claim it's all a delivery method for your particular enlightenment, well the delivery method is precisely what keeps you relegated to an Internet ghetto sub culture sewer hang out
The situation is ripe for independent sites to take advantage of the massive fascist censorship being pushed by the California Bay Area social media companies, but the Voat goats are just too collectively dumb ass to see that and seize the opportunity - start to actually make a difference with a free speech site
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
if we accepted people like you and your cancerous mods it'd quickly stop being a free speech site, because you don't believe in free speech
Christosgnosis ago
there you go again dictating how it's supposed to be - IOW you are fascist because you can't tolerate people with a common interest setting up a sub forum to run it the way they want
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I'm not forcing you to do anything am I? I'm just utilizing my right to free speech. Users like me and many others have worked very hard to make and keep voat as a site dedicated to the principal of free speech. I guess you just hate the first amendment but I disagree
Christosgnosis ago
no, what you've really done is just use free speech to keep Voat a pig pen
instead of using free speech to do something constructive
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
also free means I can do whatever I want with it, the first amendment makes no stipulations about having to be constructive you communist faggot
Christosgnosis ago
sure, you're content to be degenerate - I get that
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
there's nothing degenerate about the first amendment
Christosgnosis ago
no, but I personally regard the squandering of the 1st amendment by just pissing and shitting on it is being degenerate (for the reasons I've previously commented to with my sometimes a bit hyperbolic language)
So v/theawakening is finally starting to light up with Q-related, Storm-related, Drain-the-Swamp related postings and I'm going to get back to what my core interest are - the reason I've bothered to come back to Voat
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
where did anyone do so?
Christosgnosis ago
referring to the pet hobby horse subject matters popular with Voat goats - the Hitler worship, the race hating dogmatism - and their compulsion to push that shit on everyone else that shows up in Voat
Food_Stamp ago
Translation: Im chimping out at you because I cant handle finding out that most of the shit I believe is false.
Christosgnosis ago
Well, diatribe and shilling is far from convincing
Food_Stamp ago
If that were the case you wouldnt be so butthurt. You're chimping out becsuse you can no longer defend your beliefs.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
aka: "things among many others that are protected under the first amendment"
can you really stand by this argument of basically "saying things I don't want to hear" isn't free speech? the whole point of freedom and liberty is that people can do things that offend you, and you can do things that offend them. In fact you can do basically whatever you want within the limits of law, because this is a free country. Hitler worshipers and racists have constitutional rights even if you don't want them to, because everyone does. That's the point.
Christosgnosis ago
there's more to the 1st amendment than just indulging in degeneracy - it also involves the freedom to call out degenerates and shame them in respect to their degeneracy - being that it's entirely irresponsible to let degeneracy slide with no critique
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
sure there's more to it, but what you keep trying to deride as "degeneracy" is part of the 1st amendment. Also if you want to call out and shame them go ahead. That's my point they can say things you don't want to hear, but you can say things they don't want to hear back. If you want to do that you have the freedom to do so here, critique away.
Christosgnosis ago
What you just said is pretty much my entire position - 1st amendment works both ways. I've certainly gotten flak for my critiquing the Voat goats, but, of course, that's entirely to be expected. But seems they're also not that used to getting much push-back. They've been inhabiting an unhealthy echo chamber
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
is it your position? you seem to be complaining that nazis and racists are using their free speech here
Christosgnosis ago
Only care in one respect - the QAnon research community came here as refugees from Reddit with an interest to reestablish the forum we had. Hence v/theawakening. As a community we have focus interest on matters pertaining to Q drops, the Trump Storm, draining the Swamp, taking out the trash in Deep State, et al. Hitler worship and racial hatred dogmas are not in that nexus of our community interest. So it annoys me when old Voat goats insist on brigading v/theawakening in attempts to ramrod their pet interest into this forum. It's the only reason I bother to give them any pushback. I don't care what goes on in other forums.
Today hasn't been too bad - still been a few old Voat goat post attempting to shill and troll, but its been at a tolerable level. The Q-thematic posting has started to ramp up - prodded along by some fresh Q drops.
You know the ironies of ironies here, is that the age of my Voat account basically qualifies me as an old Voat goat - now isn't that a hoot :-)
It's been nice in one respect, though, as I already had some post history and comment history on other forums and it kind of has given me a leg up amongst the Newbies piling into v/theawakening, who are having to start from scratch with completely virgin accounts
BTW, is there any kind of Christianity forum worth looking at here? I don't care for the bland conventional stuff but more toward gnostic, mystic, and esoteric oriented
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
well free speech is in the nexus of voat, even free speech for those dang hitler loving racists you love so much. Also the reason you got brigaded was because you mods were censoring people who criticized them. Honestly I think you should be ashamed of yourself, you keep talking down to the people here that didn't put up with your mods shit but you know what's a fact?
the Hitler loves and racists that came here care more about free speech than you do
and free speech is a fundamental American value, so as far as I'm concerned all these hitler loving racists and trolls you hate so much? they're more american and more patriotic than you. And age doesn't mean anything if you hardly ever participated in the site.
there's no particular forum here for religion at least not one I've seen much of.
Christosgnosis ago
Don't flatter yourself - you old Voat goats just use free speech to hide behind when you being nothing but pompous asses and jerks
Kind of reminds me of the self-righteous attitude that the religious fundamentalist get hung up on. You guys basically chant "free speech" over and over again as though it's an incantation that gives you a license to come off as any kind of pathetic shit head you want to be. Sorry, not impressed by your antics.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
we use it to call out censorship, like what your mods were doing and they banned us for pointing out their censorship. But you don't care about that because you don't care about free speech.
Christosgnosis ago
So far I've been doing okay. I've pissed off the old Voat goats rather royally and yet I'm still here.
As to v/theawakening, I haven't had any issues about participating - been able to comment and post - my stats go up.
And I don't know any of the mods nor have any connections to anybody, just a lone shark.
Just seems to me, based on the steady shill posting that keeps attacking the v/theawakening and its mods, looks like the old Voat goats are basically out of sorts that there are two forums for QAnon stuff - the incumbent v/GreatAwakening and the recent refugees' v/theawakening.
Why can't we all just be one united group existing in one subverse? Well, people coming here as refugees were well aware of the Voat ghetto sub culture mentality of the place. And sure, there were pre-existing mods that wanted to maybe run things as they were before.
So for a site that caters to the creation of subverses so as to suit everyone's taste, on paper none of this should really be a problem. Everyone should be libertarian enough to respect each others preferences. Yet the old Voat goats have just been really bent out of shape about the appearance of a new subverse that is catering to a particular community. That community was trying to operate on its own ideas and that didn't line up at all with the way old Voat goats expect things to be. But it's not a subverse that any of them created. If old Voat goats are truly libertarian in their philosophy as they so vociferously proclaim, then they should be big enough to be tolerant of new communities that are doing their thing.
If v/theawakening gets to some point that jars my sensibilities for freedom of expression, I'll be man enough to admit it to you
But again, I don't think that that is really the chief concern - old Voat goats want just one Q-related subverse. Now that in itself evokes some control-freak psychology kind of issues being at play
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
the old voat goats are out of sorts because your mods banned them from this sub for trying to explain the CCP restrictions they put in place here or trying to show you where the mod logs are so you can see what posts they delete and who they ban
Christosgnosis ago
is there a way to make peace between the tribes and call off the blood shed?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
it would help if your mods weren't being caught right now running vote farms to cheat the CCP restrictions
Christosgnosis ago
Dismay amongst refugee newbies with the lay of the land for how Voat rules work seems rather common - is not just the mods grinding on the bit
It's typical that those that are in charge of trying to manage something think that they need some points of leverage here and there to do that with effectiveness
So tell me, in your estimation, what do you think their objective is?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I just think too many cooks spoil the soup, I'd say 12 but the mod team here keeps switching out members and other people seem to clearly be working with them, and they've admitted to me they have a discord. So you've got upwards of like 15 people all tripping over each other about how to get settled on voat, and how to run the subverse and I'm not surprised that they're having trouble and making bad decisions. You'd be better off is 1 mod decided to run the subverse and maybe 1-2 others came on with him to help clean up spam. Then add more mods as is necessary as the subverse gets bigger, and the rest of their mod team/inner circle or whatever could just use voat like normal fucking users and naturally build up CCP like anyone else had to do when they first got here.
Christosgnosis ago
Okay, some Keystone cops is what we're seeing
But if things here get ramped up to the scale of the subreddit that was shutdown, then it would probably be too much for just one or a few to manage. Am thinking the numbers count is to be prepped for the scale so that the load could be shared
The visible subcriber base there was about 71K. And then a Q drop threw out a number of 270K - don't know if that referred to unique views or an actual subscriber count - given Reddit is completely deceptive about all that.
Either number is a lot of scale for one or two to three to try to deal with
And when things get active again, the shills will show up and they will be relentless because they get paid to work in shifts
One would presume there will be no Voat boats aimed at the subverse the way Reddit allowed Reddit bots be created to attack and control the old subreddit
But perhaps there will be fake accounts spun up and external AI bots could drive those. Maybe that's where the rules of Voat will make it a bit stiffer for fake accounts to get up off the ground and do much
At any rate, this is the face of modern warfare and the mods constitute the front line of defense
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
if you actually had 70k or 300k people here that'd be one thing but as of now you still don't. Shills can't handle the crushing here even if they could just spam them with gore, bots and fake accounts are a lot harder to work here because of the CCP restrictions
Christosgnosis ago
The worse bots at Reddit are the ones Reddit allows themselves - where they expose API access to left wing Soros-sponsored groups - perhaps even Deep State goons themselves
External bots are more tractable to try and defend against
That 71K count took some time to build up to, but I think we could get to that level again more quickly. If we get the base to 15K to 20K and the internal internecine wars here on Voat simmer down, I think folks will start feeling comfortable to come here and the word will get out and around - then could start to ramp again pretty quickly. Only this time there would be clear opportunity to blow on past 71K because there'd be no Reddit and its fuckery.
When get to that level, Voat ownership should start thinking of courting a better class of advertisers that would advertise products that this community might care about. Could help pay operating cost and ability to scale to meet levels of new membership growth. Folks don't mind those minimal sidebar ads so much if restricted to one or two. And if it's a product that would actually like, all the better. For instance, iTarget sells a cool laser-based bullet for dry firing a firearm in the home and target practicing for improved aim. Get product advertisers like that.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
we don't have bots like that here, and again you lot keep bringing up your numbers but it doesn't mean anything here till they get here. "Voat ownership" is one guy and the site is user funded, even all the dumb ads on the sidebar are something the users put up, there are no advertisers here. If anything you lot would have to use bitcoin to send putt money directly if you wanted to help him with hosting
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
@DrogeAnon
please copy and paste my above suggestion to your discord
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I use free speech to protect free speech, by driving off people who don't believe in free speech merely by speaking to them
Christosgnosis ago
I use my free speech to trigger Hitler worshipers and Racial hatred dogmatist - IOW, to trigger the scum
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
Hitler was a nice guy though, he didn't even do anything wrong lol
Christosgnosis ago
Hence why the assassination attempts on the dude, no doubt
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
yup, he was a pure soul who did nothing wrong and evil ((("people"))) hated him for it
Christosgnosis ago
No, you're putting admiration in the wrong places. General Rommel was an honorable German aristocrat and as a general he was hugely admired and loved by the troops he commanded. He took a side against Hitler because he loved Germany. He was so admired that Hitler gave him the ultimatum to commit suicide.
Hitler, in contrast to Rommel, was a mediocre artist that like a lot of pathetic mediocre people (i.e., the leftist ANTIFA/SJW crowd), project their own inner pathetic failings on to other groups and engage in narcissistic blame transfer or projection.
Its the very thing that Q covers over and over again about the corrupt DC Swamp culture. Hitler was just a kind of Hillary Clinton personality type. Her projection and Hitler's projection sprang from the same inner psychological pathology.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
Erwin Rommel was a traitor and probably a jew, nothing honorable about that a soldier's duty is to follow orders, and hitler's paintings were actually quite good but you'll need to be more specific of your critique if you want to have any sort of meaningful dialogue about art. In what way was he mediocre?
I'd like to hear more actual justification for this, what do you even know about the man?
Christosgnosis ago
Hitler's art was not well received and he wasn't able to establish a career as an artist that was going anywhere. He blamed others for that - instead of looking inward and introspecting on himself - classic behavior of a psychological narcisssist; exactly how Hillary blamed everything and everyone around her for losing the 2016 election. Shit, who knows, maybe Hillary is a reincarnation of Hitler. Spiritual beings seem to require many human life times to learn lessons and improve on themselves and then move onward.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
being mediocre and not being well received are entirely different things. Besides which have you seen college admission rates recently, if it's so ridiculous for hitler to suggest that an art school treated him unfairly why can't asians get into medical school in america, compared to blacks with much worse grades. but no that's something that never happens, school admissions have always been run fairly. That's the flimsiest comparison I've ever heard, if I ever hear you complain that trump gets unfairly compared to hitler by the media I'm going to remember this and grind you into the dirt for it.
Christosgnosis ago
You know what's really infuriating - is how the "mainstream" media, the SJW cucks, the Libtards, the whacko crazy Democrats are always trying to say President Trump is a Nazi - literally Hitler. So insulting.
Those dudes are so far out in outer space - they're beyond Pluto - they really annoy me Yugely
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I don't know has he ever blamed anyone else for something? because people who blame things on other people are in fact literally hitler.
I'm implying that you're a hypocrite if that wasn't obvious, I normally wouldn't ruin my own fun but a lot of you redditors are too thick for me to be snide
Christosgnosis ago
Well, I was just looking forward to you trying to grind me into the dirt
Derpfroot ago
Valid criticism is not trolling. Someone specifically set up an entirely new sub....for what reason? To control the narrative? Either way suspicious...and when someone brings it up, you can't dismiss it with "troll." Think logically, right?
Christosgnosis ago
Well, now that's completely shill talk there as everyone knows why v/theawakening got setup
Look, my account is over a year old - I know what a pathetic loser ghetto sub culture that Voat is.
Others know it too. Is why Q community kept setting up subreddits on Reddit for Q research instead of on Voat - even knowing that eventually Reddit would come down on them.
Voat is a ghetto sub culture loser ville because its denizens waste their energy on being dumb ass trolls on shit that other people have zero interest in
Shizy ago
"my account is over a year old"! Yeah, listen to this guy! Very credible with an aged account right? Explain why you have such low CCP?
Christosgnosis ago
because when I first came here and hung out for a while I came to realize that this place is an Internet ghetto sub culture for people that are pre-occupied with things like Muh Hitler Dick Sucking and Muh Racist Dogmas bs and eventually left
the only reason for coming back is for v/theawakening
but while am here, I'll use free speech to hold up a mirror so the Voat goats can see themselves as everyone else sees them
And hence why Voat, after being around years, has remained just an Internet ghetto sub culture hang out - even as the Bay Area tech company-ran social media sites have gone full Leftist-fascism censorship providing ample opportunity of independents to take off
But Voat will continue to languish because of its particular sub culture denizens
Shizy ago
Well there's another explanation that has been mentioned:
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2722007
Christosgnosis ago
Or there's the Occam's razor explanation - came here when r/the_donald got knocked out for a while and a lot of folks thought it was permanent and so many came to Voat
Gave it a try off and on, but my main interest has been Q stuff and being on places where the real action is (was), and there's only so much time in the day. Can't be deeply involved in all sites so have to triage down to things that matter. Voat definitely wasn't a site that mattered.
So you got your pet conspiracy explanation or there's the straightforward Occam's Razzor explanation of my Voat account history of activity
I actually do wish Voat could become a significant rising site given the circumstances of pervasive Leftist censorship going on, but the Voat goat community is just inherently toxic for the reasons I've put out in my many comments of late. Sure my wording gets a bit hyperbolic, but everyone realizes there's a fair amount of truth behind my somewhat hyperbolic wording - and that, naturally ruffles your feathers
shrink ago
So, to boil this down, you hate this place because you don't like how people use their free speech. When a mod starts banning and deleting things they don't like, you don't have free speech. The only thing that reasonably gets deleted is illegal content or outright spam.
Most of us are adults with families. We aren't edgy teenagers being edgy for the sake of being edgy. The harsh language is a warrant canary for free speech. If you don't like all the swearing and insults, that's fine, and that's perfectly normal, but it exists for a reason. Your mods and how they acted PERFECTLY showcased the exact reason we have such language, they failed the litmus test utterly and completely. So they took you somewhere else where they had greater control.
You have no argument other than constantly restating "you guys just say too many mean things and troll everything." If your sub was set up correctly, anything off topic or offensive would get downvoated and hidden, without moderation at all. It would be easy. But that's not what happened. Yet you seem to completely fail at comprehending what people are trying to say here, and you keep getting pissy and defensive.
You're being led down the wrong path, and getting offended and running away is something those mods are counting on to control you.
Christosgnosis ago
no, it's simpler than that. v/theawakening was set up for people that want to concentrate on Q related matters
Voat goats come constantly pouring in telling everbody how its going to be
IOW, the rules of do as they will are fine for them, but not any new comers
To the extent that Voat goats want to keep coming in and trolling with their same old tired shit, yeah, that warrants some push back
If they were actually libertarian, and instead of more like ANTIFA fucks, they would be okay with other people establishing a sub forum and running it as they see fit, but they're not because they're a bunch of busy-body fucks and shit head trolls
You think being offended is something bad - well, are you offended at what the Pedos do? Yes, of course you are.
"Offended" is a too heavy of a word for my case, though. I'm more in the annoyed category
But I'm not inclined to just sit back and submit and say "yes, yes, you're right - I want to be like you Voat goats and assimilate - and suck Adolph Hitler's dick too and hate jews - even though President Trump has Jewish grandchildren that he loves and would have nothing to do with such demented shit
So you maybe you see why I don't mind telling you to stick your Adoph Hitler worship and Jew hatred up your fucking, stinking collective Voat goat asses
shrink ago
No, you had mods deleting and banning things that did not need to be deleted or banned, and gave unreasonable justification for Voat. The mods explicitly stated they were going to run things here like they did on reddit, and that certain things was not allowed to be said. That is the spark that started this, do not put the cart before the horse and confuse your causes and effects here. Because this was an infringement on free speech, goats came in and started telling the mods this was not acceptable site behavior. They were not attacking newcomers for not doing what they "were told," because we weren't telling the newcomers to do anything. We were calling the mods on their bullshit.
You, as a group, were not doing as you will. You were along for the ride in a subverse that was autocratically controlled by moderators, who LED you. They were the ones making the calls. They also made sure that no downvoats were allowed, which meant that you as a community were not allowed to control your own content by downvoating things. That IS NOT free speech.
Who the fuck said we're libertarian? I believe in free speech, and I'm not libertarian. Lolbergtarianism is cancer and completely fails to understand how society as a cohesive collective fucking works. I'm not going to get sidetracked on this, but "free speech" doesn't automatically mean "we're libertarian." Come on.
you were not running it. You did not have free speech. It makes no difference if everything the mods did was done with your blessing and you fully approved of handing over your free speech to them because you're so used to it on reddit, you either have it, or you do not, and you did not. You as a group ran nothing, you were all utterly at the mercy of the mods. I saw plenty of your new Q refugees come in and have a good laugh about the offensive language and said "this is funny, it's nice i can say this here," and a mod would come in and reply "no, no you can't, get your shit together." That IS NOT free speech.
Absolutely nobody is telling you to adopt our opinions on politics. By "assimilate," we mean "advocate for free speech, allow anyone to say anything and don't let it bother you." We don't mean you need to join in lockstep with us and adopt all our viewpoints.
Yeah, and we don't mind you telling us. That's how free speech works. We won't ban you for telling us to fuck off or that our Hitler worship is fucking gay. But you know what? If I went into your Q sub and said "this shit is all fucking dumb and you're falling for bait because you're retards that don't understand how this works, Q is retarded," then I would be banned by a mod for not "helping the cause." Yeah, you have NO problem with that right? No double standards here.
Did I say anything about going somewhere? The only thing I mentioned was that the mods of this sub wanted to pull people off to 8ch so they could more easily control the narrative. I didn't tell you to leave.
If you fail to comprehend the rationale for any of this, there is a far more in depth post here that discusses the problem. https://voat.co/v/whatever/2720296
If you have any problems with whatever is said in that thread, post there.
Vindicator ago
This is a great comment.
Pattern_Blind ago
This Niggerfaggot went Autist on you! <3 That Goat has been on the mountian a while they understand where all the good salt licks are.
Welcome to Voat new niggerfaggots! We are all just humble salt mines here. 1488!
Christosgnosis ago
It's pretty clear you're a particularly extreme control freak type - everything you Voat goats espouse is nothing abut pure hypocrisy of the highest order. Unless everyone submits to your particular form of fascism, then crack the whip of troll festing
You dudes are so completely odious its nauseating
shrink ago
...oh. So you're just going to completely ignore everything I said, pretend I gave you no explanations or arguments, and just keep saying the same stuff over and over even though I already addressed it.
You repeat a lie I already refuted and clearly didn't read a single thing. Why are you here? If you're not going to engage in conversation and actual arguments (of which you have provided NONE) then why waste time?
ExpertShitposter ago
Boomers brains have expired and they just shut down when backed into a corner and slapped across the face with truth.
Fagtardicus ago
guess who?
MadWorld ago
Very interesting perspective!
Archived to preserve the thread context: https://archive.fo/HGP2w
shrink ago
Gradually I began to hate them.
Crensch ago
This is an absolutely fantastic end to a really great nest. I don't recall seeing you around before, but I hope to see more of you with this quality writing.
@Trigglypuff @gabara @ExpertShitposter @kevdude @MadWorld
ExpertShitposter ago
Hilarious bio as well.
srayzie ago
Then leave. Obviously free speech isn’t that important to you.
Christosgnosis ago
No, I like hanging around and putting a mirror in front of Voat goats so they can see themselves for what they are
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
how rude, I can do both I'm a very constructive trolling asshole
Crensch ago
Did you read my submission? Some of your team are not on the same side as anyone not being shady.
I don't have a leader, and I lead no one.
Project much? I give myself my marching orders.
I'm mostly made of carbon, so... yes?
Never heard any credible claims of anyone I associate with having such. Reddit, however, has a lot of those kinds of people - some EMPLOYED by Reddit.
Nice psychological tactic there. What do you call that one? Begging the question?
You sound like you know a lot about such things. Maybe you could educate us?
You seem unaware that shills often couch their lies and misdirections in a LOT of repeated truths and morale-boosting rhetoric. You haven't been outside of your safe space for very long, have you?
Oh, wait, you're probably one of those working to keep everyone IN that safe space, aren't you?
think- ago
LOL
jonnyquest ago
Thank you for being a good sport. I dunno who this guy is you're responding to, and I give you a lot of credit for even bothering. Anyone who is going to criticize the idea of free speech is a class A moron in my book, and these double fucking standards are fucking pathetic.
Also love the organic answer. Fuck this guy!
kneo24 ago
They aren't sending their best shills and Jews. They've been too busy hanging out on Reddit that they can't manage to be effective here at all.
phbalanced4adingo ago
You could be right about all of these things but what do do you gain from being the voat.co mod for the reddit refugees? Mostly unappreciated headaches. Be happy that the community is surviving somehow or work on the one you mod to be the best it can be and prove him wrong.
Crensch ago
I don't care, and how is that relevant?
Like the side-bar where your bans and removals can be seen by all?
1) What makes you think you can tell me how to live my life?
2) I already proved him wrong.
3) I don't mod a Q subverse.
phbalanced4adingo ago
1) I'm a well adjusted sane adult. You are not.
Crensch ago
Being "well adjusted" to the current society would make me pretty fucked in the head, IMO.
You can keep that dubious honour.
@Trigglypuff @Rainy-Day-Dream @kevdude
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
imagine caring more about being perceived as "well adjusted sane" than fundamental american values like free speech, or the human value of not wanting to be lied to and manipulated by those in power
mattathias ago
Is your mom's vagina a safe space?
-mossomo
srayzie ago
Well look at you fellow patriot. Educate you? Isn’t that what Q has been helping us with? There is only one side if you're on the Q team.
👏🏻👏🏻 Good job representing the Q movement. 🇺🇸
I think somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed and needs to go read some Q posts and be reminded on the meaning of division.
heygeorge ago
No evidence. Show me where Voat’s traffic bump (despite also bringing in additional banned Rebbit refugees) remotely resembled that number. I saw 3500 additional users during the peak.
You’re nearly all being lead by questionable people selling t-shirts.
mattathias ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/62ltc9/rthe_donald_actually_has_6000000_subscribers_but/
heygeorge ago
So, first off, from your link:
That’s an inaccurate number. Also, it’s from r/td which has nothing to do with the sub we’re talking about.
Also, Voat reasonably accurately shows how many people are in a given subverse at one time, and how many subscribers there are. The max I have seen attendees at is 7500, which is also about the same number is subscribers.
There is no 300k.
Nearly all of you are being lead by questionable people selling t-shirts.
mattathias ago
That's your opinion. I have mine. We can disagree. I care two fucks about people selling shirts, and don't need any shepards.
I used T_D because it was an easy stat to cite; you missed the point which was in how Conde Nast sells ads which not based on 'subscribers'.
And we crashed your servers when we migrated last week. So 7500 newbies crashed your site?
heygeorge ago
If the founder of your cause is a tshirt slinger, you may want to reconsider what you think.
heygeorge ago
Yeah, 7500 additional active users would certainly ‘crash’ Voat, because it’s kept low budget, ie enough to keep the lights on via donation and what @PuttItOut is willing to accede to us.
You can call out my opinion, but I don’t deal in opinions. I deal in fact-based evidence. Voat isn’t CN owned. Show me evidence to the contrary and I will gladly change my view! Fortunately, I am sure you cannot.
Silverlining ago
How ya doin'
Yes, those numbers have been niggling. 70k subs on r/GA under 10k migrate - I imagine 50% (guess) subs are inactive and just haven't been deleted.
Q faking the figures?
https://qanon.pub/#2168 https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2995301.html#2995423
297k
https://qanon.pub/#2198 https://8ch.net/patriotsfight/res/62.html#252
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9gm52s/a_peak_at_rgreatawakening_traffic_stats_from/?st=JM6UXCG7&sh=714a478d
Does voat have similar stats? Are they available to all or just B/Os. Could they be - for transparency, perhaps.
May be discouraging for a few of the less busy boards - but I'm happy blogging a haand full of bots...
And of course measurement (observation) changes reality (or something)
Happy Qwakening - another big week ahead.
PuttItOut ago
I want to see their t-shirts. Have a url?
heygeorge ago
Here’s a sample!
PuttItOut ago
Top Seller!
heygeorge ago
The flag is backwards, but who cares?
I didn’t notice the site down. Are you still planning to push?
srayzie ago
I’m sure he made Trump and Q proud
PacaGoat ago
Yep, here's the epthomy of maturity. I've seen this very type of wording used by someone under another name elsewhere. Carelful cat daddy. This is bad juju.
Shizy ago
I really wish I could downvoat you!
mattathias ago
I really wish your dad's sperm went into a sock. Or some hippy's mouth. But dammit, you are a survivor. Glad to meet you.
Shizy ago
It's kinda weird that you're thinking of my dads sperm, but ok, faggot!
mattathias ago
I'm a nigger faggot with a Big Black Cock and want to come in your mouth. You ready?
Shizy ago
I'd shoot you're filthy dick off before it would ever get close to me niggerfaggot!
mattathias ago
Where should I sit on the bus?
kneo24 ago
In the wheel well where you belong.
mattathias ago
Aren't you the gangster. How big are your biceps?
-mossomo
kneo24 ago
I can't wait for the day of the rope for when we gas your (((kind))).
mattathias ago
5779
Keep trying. Almost 6000 years. Not dead yet.
Gas me? Is that a death threat? Is that how it goes here?
Listen carebears.
My bloodline would hunt you down, they would cut off your nose and smear it in the glass of the microwave window/pane while you watched you youngest infanct/child get hot and moist on the lowest heat levels.
kneo24 ago
That's some heavy larping shit right there. You fucking rat kikes have spent thousands of years, not fighting overtly, not being at the front lines, but instead hiding in the shadows trying to subvert everything. In turn, it has turned your bloodlines weak. Your bloodlines are nothing but one big genetic deformity. It's why you have disgusting, ugly noses that no one wants any part of. It's why most of you look like weak, willed, short, soy boys. You fear everyone else. Hold onto that fear, it's all you'll ever have.
@Kosherhivekicker, found another one. Sorry to keep pinging you man, but this Jew infestation has gotten bigger.
Shizy ago
He's either a Jew or a nigger. Actually sounds like both.
SearchVoat ago
Bleep bloop, someone mentioned this comment!
'Vote on VOAT!' was posted in v/QRV and includes this reply from @14021082:
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kneo24 ago
I'm starting to believe their mod team is full of Jews as well. Some on the mod team here are Jews as well. They're somehow always the victims here on Voat.
mattathias ago
Larping, larping, larping
Juice will rule the world... Who doesn't like Gingers Snaps?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
you faggots keep alluding to this 300k but there's less than 700 users here right now and a lot of those are probably actual voat users here to bully you
mattathias ago
Fair enough question
Do you not think you and your ilk's scare tactics don't ice people from commenting here?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I'm trying to drive people off, I detest redditors and pussies who can't handle bad words, but I don't need admins or mods to force anyone off when I can just bully them for a day and they'll leave of their own free will. If you trash want to stay I can't actually stop you because freedom of course, but if it isn't apparent I don't want you people here anyway
Crensch ago
You're really not very good at this.
I like how you cut my quote off. I said:
Do you see the difference? One is a quote of my words, and the other is you being dishonest.
Thank YOU for confirming that you're unqualified to defend your mods.
And you're the best they've got? I'll take my team of 1, thanks.
What of what your mods have said or done doesn't undermine Team Q?
Have you ever heard of tone fallacy? Did you know that you're the one that looks unhinged here?
I don't countenance the kind of stupidity and sneaky manipulation shown here. Your mods got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, and you seem to be a little butthurt about it.
That's better. When you quote ALL my words, you don't look like a lying, dishonest sack of shit.
You should let your words speak for themselves, though given your responses here, I doubt you capable of educating anyone at all.
trypanon ago
Thanks for the post Crensch, spot on!
PacaGoat ago
Look at his attitude, Like no one else is team Q? What da heck?! This is eliteism. "Q is ours and you can't have none." immaturity!
Shizy ago
That's your response? Wow!
Hand_of_Node ago
Reddit users.
PacaGoat ago
Think he is someone we all know by the wording there. Read closely. Hate THIS!!
Crensch ago
This is the level of your ability to defend NR and your mods. This is an admission that you are not good enough to do so.
Archive
Seeker_of_him ago
Who cares? Focus on Q.
Hand_of_Node ago
This one is brain dead. Mods could be taking turns ass-raping it, and it would reiterate the need to "grit your teeth and focus on Q".
Seeker_of_him ago
Why else are you here besides Q? Shilling perhaps?
Hand_of_Node ago
Because this is voat, and there have been a number of invasions by redditards who think (or don't) they can bring reddit here and everyone will accept it. That is not the case.
Are you familiar with the meme/complaint about Californians getting fed up with the way California works, then moving to other states and recreating California there?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
seriously why not just go to the 8chan board where Q actually posts and participate there? why get it third party from mods and people like this?
IGiveZeroFucks ago
Apparently these folks need a massive team of heavy-handed moderators to censor what they read and "guide" them in their "research."
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
seems like it
Crensch ago
Right, let's just ignore the fact that your mods and a popular blog poster on Q are lying to you, trying to split the Q community, and herding the normies to somewhere they can curate without having their actions public knowledge.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
yeah, I don't believe this at all
a little late for that
no
"change the rules for us"
NOBODY. CARES.
I'm not big on 2nd chances tbh
I believe they're from the chans even less now
the rest is a bunch of cryptic and vague nonsense and movies references
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
You go to a website and steal content you deem "safe", you self-important kike.
This says it all. To sum it all up, this extremely brave faggot neon jew goes to a naughty website and determines which "facts" you dumb fucks are allowed to see. Get it? Do you see the problem here?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
why didn't they just go to /Qresearch/ in the first place? if they have Q anon himself why do they need so many other faggots to lead them?
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
It's almost as if Q is a jewish larp to placate the heavily armed and frustrated masses of a nation by sowing fantasies about an anonymous, golden savior who is "laying out a master plan" to take down the totally-not-jews who are subverting their nation and its every last value.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
who knows, I just want to bully redditors so they'll stop fucking voat up. Also because bullying is fun
sguevar ago
Quite interesting analysis. I can only vouch for being more vigilant with them. Thanks for sharing the input.
Crensch ago
@gabara @MadWorld @HateCumbuckets @Rainy-Day-Dream @BeefBourgignon
Crensch ago
@Trigglypuff @Rotteuxx @sguevar @Hand_of_Node @ExpertShitposter
kneo24 ago
Whoa, how dare you ping people? You know, one of them might be comped!
think- ago
LOL
ObamasPinkSock ago
Wow - so many members of SBBH,
Hey and now 60% of /v/GreatAwakening mods are SBBH mods too!
Ugh!
Crensch ago
You say that as if posting on SBBH makes you less-than. I've yet to see any evidence or support for this implied claim, just a lot of begging the question on it.
ObamasPinkSock ago
Yes, a LOT of people agree that SBBH are a negative influence on Voat, don't they.
Crensch ago
Yes, the kind of people that even more people agree are a negative influence on Voat.
ObamasPinkSock ago
That doesn't even make any sense.
Crensch ago
The kind of people that agree with you are cancer.
ObamasPinkSock ago
Well then I supposed it's fortunate to have a karma-farming, down-vote-brigading, toxic-sub like SBBH that can "deal" with the cancerous problem of free speech. /s
It's just a shame the SBBH karma-farming wastes so much of Atko's server space.
Crensch ago
Go back to poal or phucks, pedo-posting freshmeat.
ObamasPinkSock ago
Those are some nice personal attacks you've got there.
Did Hillary Clinton teach you those?
Shizy ago
Why don't you explain why you have such hate for SBBH? Other than the obvious of foul language and "distasteful" jokes that one may find "offensive", what is really the problem there?
66%of the GA mods are mods on SBBH. Get it right 😂!
Crensch ago
@srayzie @shizy @vindicator @think- @kevdude
Shizy ago
Incredibly weak argument for why v/GreatAwakening wasn't good enough and they needed to make their own subverse.
Crensch ago
I'd say it had malicious intent, honestly.
Shizy ago
Absolutely! And his weak attempt to justify the need should cause everyone to question the motives behind it.
NotTheMeanest ago
Spinning so hard, he’s going to fall off his chair.