I know this will be a controversial topic, but as you all know, we’ve been programmed since we were born to believe what we were taught in school. The media and entertainment industry continue to program us.
Us red pilled Patriots do not just believe what we’re told. We’re no longer blind sheep. We do our own research and spread the word. So why not do the same when it comes to the Holocaust?
For over 2 years now, many people on Voat have said that the Holocaust was a lie. I’ve been researching the subject and found an awesome website about it on https://8ch.net/qresearch. I was up late reading this last night, and I am convinced now that we were absolutely lied to. I’m not saying people didn’t die, but the whole story is very different than we’ve been taught to believe.
There are tons of pictures included. It’s a very interesting read no matter what your belief is regarding the Holocaust. So for those of you that are curious, here’s the link...
https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
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Dragon40 ago
Utter bullshit.
Blacksmith21 ago
I love how these self-professed "historians" call all media propaganda now (which it largely is), yet don't consider the fact that most of this BS was propaganda then.
Crensch ago
Are you referring to the newspaper articles about 6 million before the war even happened?
Blacksmith21 ago
I'm referring to crap like this: https://files.catbox.moe/z3y3e4.png
It's Great Depression-era Daily Stormer crap. They had propaganda back then, just as they do now. Look at the history of this paper.
The Holocaust happened. Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.
It is the motives which are now in question.
We all know that the enemy we fight today is the 4th Reich. The Holocaust was a criminal act of persecution against the Jews for Deep State purposes perpetrated by the 3rd Reich.
History repeats itself. I
srayzie ago
I never said it didn’t happen. That’s not what @Crensch is saying either. That’s what people keep twisting. I gave a link with a ton of evidence of many things that we were not told, inconsistencies, and the amount of people killed. That’s not saying it didn’t happen.
9/11 happened, but we were lied to about the official story. Same thing. I’m not pushing it on anyone. People are free to believe what they want.
Part of @Crensch’s problem was how loyal you were to that lying sack of shit @Oh_Well_ian. You were more harsh with me, even tho he was clearly the instigator and ended up being a fuckin nutcase and shill. Crensch witnessed all that and has been suspicious of you ever since.
That being said, you guys are both my friends and I hope you guys can just let bye gones be bye gones.
@Think- @Vindicators
Blacksmith21 ago
I'll say I have no idea WTF happened with OWI. He was generally cool with me. The extent of our interactions was pretty much limited to research-related topics.
You know me well enough that I tend to avoid all of the social drama here. As such, I really had no idea about all of the OWI background until you pointed it out. Even then, it's tough to infer exactly what was going on.
It is what it is, I can't change it. Live and learn.
srayzie ago
It’s all good. Just letting you know cuz I saw Crensch mention that.
Blacksmith21 ago
No problemo, Chica. I'm over it. I spent the day riding motorcycles on Skyline Drive. Spring's here. Time to regenerate the soul ; )
srayzie ago
Awesome :)
Crensch ago
Depending on the specific subject, I am, actually, saying that. The whole ostensible impetus for keeping the Holocaust in recent memory is because of the HORRORS of the NAZI DEATH CAMPS that can easily be dismissed with minimal investigation into the claims and documents.
Yes, Jews were shipped to camps. Yes, they were made to work. Yes, Typhus was a problem and people died. Yes, supply lines were bombed and people starved. Yes, Zyklon_B was used, to delouse clothing to help prevent Typhus. Yes, they had a "Final Solution" doctrine that was going to move Jews elsewhere in order to get rid of them - finally.
@Blacksmith21
You're 100% right about the rest of it.
think- ago
I think the problem here is that @Crensch and other people who say the holocaust = genocide never happened have a list of arguments that should be responded to in detail; this is what @LauraIngalls wasn't able to do, she only replied in an emotional way, and quoted one Christian eye witness IIRC.
My suggestion would be to postpone the argument, immerse yourself in history books for a couple of months, and then come back, and have that discussion regarding the exact numbers, with a number of sources about how many Jews were killed where in which way.
I.e. instead of just saying that there are many eye witness reports, you might want to quote a couple of them, and link to sources.
I think it would be worth the effort.
Maybe @Crensch can do a list of arguments he has, and you can then come back and discuss these.
I feel this would be helpful for the whole community.
It doesn't matter whether @Crensch spends his spare time online or with fishing and hunting; as long as he has arguments you and others with the same position are not able to discuss in detail, with linked sources, he will be the 'winner' here.
@srayzie @Vindicator
Lauraingalls ago
I don't have time for all that. I know the TRUTH, President Trump knows the TRUTH, Paca Goat who knows survivors of the Holocaust knows the TRUTH. Anyone else that wants to be a Holocaust Denier can look up the history of that subject. I was told by Crensch that these Hitler supporters have been on Voat for years. They try to convert people to their side. I am not interested in being a Neo Nazi. By the way, there are many witnesses I "QUOTED". Obviously YOU didn't notice. And I am "EMOTIONAL" because denying that HORROR IS SICK. SOMEBODY has to CARE.
Blacksmith21 ago
This is what the don't want to talk about: https://youtu.be/KGE231k62Bs?t=29
Lauraingalls ago
Thank you for this. To the Neo Nazis and Holocaust Deniers this never happened. Scary people on VOAT.
Blacksmith21 ago
There are thousands upon thousands of hours of film footage interviews of first hand accounts by the US soldiers who liberated the death camps: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/liberation-of-nazi-camps
There are countess interviews with survivors who recount every horror one could experience and still be alive.
antiliberalsociety ago
Jews own the media, what are they going to say...
And let's pretend for a minute... that it actually happened. Does that mean we cannot criticize a Jew's crime just because they are Jewish?
The term Nazi comes from the NSDAP, it was a nickname given to them by the communists trying to discredit them in the 1920's. It's the suppression of truth that causes people to act out
Blacksmith21 ago
2 sides of the same coin. You are about to watch a lot of Nazis arrested for treason.
antiliberalsociety ago
Pop quiz: How did Russia come to be a nuclear superpower?
Answer: It was given to them by the RosenBERGS. Jews. Whom we executed for TREASON.
Blacksmith21 ago
The Rosenbergs just got caught. They we were part of a much bigger spy ring. I'm pretty sure when we execute Obama, Brennan, Comey, Lynch, Podesta, Rice, Jarrett there won't be any hook-nosed bagel eaters in the bunch. Correct?
antiliberalsociety ago
This was explained in 1920. Communism has a gentile as a front. The one who is at the helm and takes all the heat for controversial decisions usually designed to undermine nations. The nominal subordinate is the real power that operates behind the scenes. If George Soros came right out and admitted in his book that he owned Hillary and controls America (even calling himself God), and he's also coincidentally Jewish, that would fit this.
Now if you say "but that's antisemetic!" you'd have to refer back to the 1920 article written about the Russian Revolution.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Written by none other than Winston S. Churchill. Now, he can't be an antisemite, he fought the Devil Incarnate, right? So why on Earth is he saying communism is a Jewish thing?
Lauraingalls ago
Paca Goat knew survivors but these Neo Nazi Holocaust Deniers are too evil to care how much evidence they get. I appreciate the information. I did not realize Nazis were STILL so strong and around.
Blacksmith21 ago
The Nazis just changed their outfits, infiltrated the US government, and expanded their ranks to include useful minorities - Jews, blacks, Muslims, gays, whatever. When the all-German thing didn't work for them, the new plan was to flip the script - rally the minorities while still controlling them and/or creating a symbiotic relationship (professional sports, media/entertainment, etc.) where they have to do follow the Masters' (Nazi leadership) commands.
Lauraingalls ago
I forgot about what you are telling me. The communists did the same thing. I guess I just got so upset learning there are so many Neo Nazis here that I wasn't thinking straight. It is frightening. I guess not everyone here is for the goodness of Q or President Trump. Lots of TROLLS and Deep State people and even some very messed up Q followers.
antiliberalsociety ago
Truth fears no investigation. It is documented in June 1940, Hitler offered peace to Churchill; basically "let's pack our things and go home". He offered not only peace, but offered his own military aid if Britain was ever under attack from Russia, China, or whomever (Russia was his ally at the time) he would provide whatever military aid they asked for as British and German cultures were too alike to be foes. No one denies this, not even the Jews.
Now, HAD Churchill accepted that peace offer (Mind you, Hitler was occupying Paris at the time), wouldn't he avoided the Holocaust from happening? At that point in the war they were fighting over Poland. The Holocaust didn't happen until after 1940. Why would Churchill let that happen by not accepting a peace offer? (One of 15 documented cables sent to Churchill from Hitler)
think- ago
Apologies if I overlooked that.
It's ok to be emotional about it, but you won't win an argument, or convince people reading the thread this way. You will need to quote historians, and their sources.
@srayzie @Vindicator @Blacksmith21
srayzie ago
Oh she’s not even willing to look or have an open mind. She keeps insinuating that we are denying it. I am NOT denying it. There is a lot we were not taught tho!
She told me she does NOT want to see anyone’s evidence and told me and @Bopper to not push this BULLSHIT on her and we said ok.
She dishes it out but can’t take it even people QUOTE something that is different than what she’s been taught her whole life.
@Think- @Vindicator
Vindicator ago
That is a normal reaction to cognitive dissonance. It's not surprising @LauraIngalls can't engage the topic. We've all been there.
I haven't read all the 700+ comments here yet, but I doubt anyone is saying "it didn't happen." More like "it didn't happen the way you've been told." My sense is that they're convinced it is the biggest psyop of all time, perpetrated and enforced with draconian censorship, brainwashing and demonization of doubters, and therefore it demands investigation, debate and reevaluation.
That question should really create cognitive dissonance. Instead of lashing out and running away, we should take a deep breath, pour ourselves a stiff drink, and humbly ask ourselves how awakened we really are.
Those who are Christian have no need to fear discovering whatever the truth really is. The truth is what brings all to freedom. As St. Paul said, "Put all things to the test: keep what is Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21
Lauraingalls ago
There is NO NEED to personally attack me. I can engage a topic. I know the TRUTH. And if you do READ the comments PLENTY of people denied the Holocaust happened, smarty pants. You act like a liberal with your personal attack. They even said President Trump wasn't right when he said to deny the Holocaust makes you an accomplice in the Evil. You have NO RIGHT to act like I don't know what I am talking about. Every person that tried to prove these Neo Nazi. Holocaust Deniers are wrong were attacked. Even Paca Goat who personally spoke to survivors, and is from Germany was attacked. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT LIVES IN DARKNESS, not me.
antiliberalsociety ago
I don't predict you will reply to this, but (I know nothing of who you are or where your political stances lie) if you saw "truth" you could back it up with a link to some facts, yes? The part that most have trouble with is what they THINK is the truth is only bits of truth sprinkled with lies.
There are important questions to consider when discussing the holocaust.
Why is there no mention of it until the 1970s? The word itself means to die by fire; which would be more accurately applied to Hiroshima or Dresden. If you look in an encyclopedia that's pre 1980, there's no mention of it.
Why are there no authentic wartime documents proving Hitler even knew about Auschwitz? There is a British historian that went into the national archives of several countries and sifted through millions of pages to find the genuine documents, be it communication cables between governments, military leaders, etc. His name is David Irving, and he offered back in the 1980s, 1,000 British Pounds to anyone who could produce an authentic wartime document proving Hitler ordered the liquidation of the Jews, or anything regarding concentration camps being death camps. No one could, instead they resorted to ad hominem and attacked his person and credibility, but he just said that proved him even more right because they feared the truth coming out.
Where are the piles of ashes? Why is it illegal to investigate the death camps? A guy with a ground penetrating radar wanted to find all the mass graves of the missing 6 million. He was denied. So he did it anyway, illegally, and found nothing.
Why is there a placard at Auschwitz stating that the chimney is "a replica"? If someone offered you a "replica" $100 bill for services, would you accept that as genuine?
Why did death camps have swimming pools? They claim they were already there from the Polish military, and they just took them over, but that raises the questions of the auditoriums, tennis ball courts, dentist offices, etc. If they were going to die, and death was the purpose, why did they bother tattooing them? Feeding them? They claim labor, but what did they produce? Where are all the products made from these camps? If the answer is wartime materials like shells and so forth, where did they get the steel/powder/machining equipment, etc.?
It was said in the Ernst Zundel trial that the "survivors" claimed all these things. David Irving went on the stand and was asked why he would defame such heroes who went through all these tragic horrors. His answer was a question; "How many Jews survived the holocaust?" The prosecutor answered, "well, a few thousand? Why?" Then David Irving asked; "Why do we always hear testimony from the same 3-4 survivors? Why don't we ever hear from the other few thousand?"
I'm going to through in some humorous memes asking similar questions:
1 2 3 4 In case you don't get #4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43
Bonus: https://i.imgtc.com/aWZ0EcI.jpg
https://i.imgtc.com/FAx1Czv.jpg
If this doesn't intrigue your mind, try v/DavidIrving. Give any of his speeches a listen (have an open mind) and see if you can catch him in a lie somewhere. If you can, please link me to it I'd like to find one.
Vindicator ago
Uhh...did you actually read my comment? It wasn't personal and it wasn't an attack. :-)
srayzie ago
You’re a fricken liberal Vindicator! 😂
Don’t deny it!
bopper ago
lol oh my goodness
srayzie ago
@Vindicator is a feminist 😂
Vindicator ago
I've been accused of a lot here on Voat, but that is a first!
The worst thing about feminism is there is nothing feminine about it. :-(
srayzie ago
Hahaha. Just playing with you xo
Lauraingalls ago
You mentioned ME, that was personal.
Vindicator ago
Yeah...I was stating that your reaction to the "Voat experience" on this topic is normal. It was about as far from a personal attack as you can get.
I mentioned you, because I was talking about you and it's damn rude to discuss someone on this platform without pinging them.
I spent the afternoon reading about 600 of the 700 comment sub threads on this post, Laura, and only two of those replying that I saw actually claim the Holocaust "didn't happen". The very vast majority were being quite civil and attempting to share facts that they themselves found disturbing enough to uproot their original views on the subject.
Why would you come to Voat, one of the only places in the world where you are literally free to say anything you want and have people engage you rationally, if all you're going to do is flip people the bird, stick your fingers in your ears and shout "EVIL" over and over again?
The person I saw in this thread "attacking" and name calling was not the "Neo Nazis", but you, who claim to be a Christian.
Christianity is not a Hallmark Card sentiment. Most people don't have the balls for the real thing. Jesus was butchered by the government and religious authorities of his day because they were able to whip up a mob of brainwashed sheep to demand his blood. If you aren't willing to examine the evidence of similar brainwashing and rabble-rousing today, how are you any different? This is an error all people in every age are prone to make. The wise know it, and err on the side of humility, rather than calling everyone else "evil".
Jesus: "First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." Matt 7:5
Also Jesus: "No one is good--except God alone." Luke 18:19
Crensch ago
And when I say "it didn't happen", I mean that the whole ostensible (not actual) reason they push it on us and our children is horseshit, and none of the fantastical Nazi fanfic claims happened.
think- ago
What exactly do you think didn't happen? Would you maybe have a list? That would be terrific as a starting point for @Blacksmith21's post maybe.
Thank you.
@srayzie @Blacksmith21 @Vindicator @PacaGoat @LauraIngalls
Crensch ago
Here's an old post of mine that @Blacksmith21 can chew on.
Auschwitz was not a death camp, it was a labor camp
Crensch ago
Sure! Hell, I'll give them some things that DID happen, too. BS21 can pick and choose.
Let's start with the totally fair Nuremburg Trials that everyone is so keen on pointing out!
----My first claim: A fair trial didn't happen.
How is it that the victorious Allies get to act as prosecutor, judge, and executioner of the German leaders?
--Source: From Nuremberg to My Lai pp. 81-83.
Judge Iola T. Nikitchenko, at a planning conference before the Tribunal convened explained his view on the trials:
This is the man that presided at the opening session. Where were the trials that determined guilt?
--Source: Leo Kahn, Nuremberg Trials pp. 26.
In his memoirs, Nahum Goldmann, who served as president of both the World Zionist Organization and the World Jewish Congress reported that the Nuremberg Trials were the brain-child of the World Jewish Congress officials. They persuaded the Allied leaders to accept the plan.
--Source: N. Goldmann, The Autobiography of Nahum Goldmann pp. 216-217
The World Jewish Congress(WJC) made sure the persecution of the Jews was the main focus of the trials.
--Source: World Jewish Congress, Unity in Dispersion pp. 141, 264, 267.
Colonel David Marcus, a Jewish officer in the US Army selected almost all of the judges, prosecutors, and lawyers for the Nuremberg Trials.
--Source: "War Crimes" article written by him in Britannica Book of the Year in 1947, pp. 819-821.
Charles F Wennerstrum stated that many employed clerks, lawyers, researchers, and interpreters had only just become Americans in recent years, and whose backgrounds were rather steeped in certain prejudices. He also stated that the evidence selection was made by the prosecution, and the defense had access only to the documents the prosecution considered material to the case.
In regards to Nuremberg, Wennerstrum had "a feeling that justice has been denied".
--Source: Chicago Tribune article, dated February 23, 1948, pp. 1, 2. "Nazi Trial Judge Rips 'Injustice'", by Hal Foust.
US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone stated: "Jackson (Chief US prosecutor mentioned above) is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremburg." and "I don't mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law."
He specifically calls it a fraud.
--Source: Harlan Fiske Stone: Pillar of the Law pp. 716.
Congressional representative Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin states: "The Nuremberg farce represents a revenge policy at its worst."
--Source: Congressional Record -- Appendix, Vol. 95, Sec. 14, pp. A 3741.
John Rankin of Mississippi, another congressman, declared: "A racial minority, two and a half years after the war closed, are in Nuremberg not only hanging German soldiers but trying German businessmen in the name of the United States."
--Source: Congressional Record -- House, Vol. 93, Sec. 9, pp. 10938
EVEN A JEW, Milton R Konvits, specialist of law who taught at NYU states:
--Source: M. R. Konvitz, "Will Nuremberg Serve Justice?," Vol. I, No. 3, pp. 11.
--My second claim: the German defendants were tortured by the Allies
They were tortured by the Allies against international law; violating at least articles 56 and 58 of the Geneva convention of July 1929.
--Source: Nuremberg: A Nation on Trial pp. 69, 302
Austrian officer, Emil Lachout, part of the postwar Allied War Crimes Commission testified under oath in 1988 that German officials had been tortured until they furnished fraudulent statements about alleged killings of Jews in German death camp gas chambers. He provided a copy of a 1948 document confirming this.
--Source: Robert Lenski, Holocaust on Trial, pp. 274, 278.
I've seen Rudolf Höss' confession rather often as a cornerstone document of Holocaust extermination. It's certainly one of the most widely known pieces of "evidence" by anyone that has dipped their toes into this subject.
--Source: Rupert Butler, Legions of Death, pp. 235-239
Rudolph Hoess was tortured for his testimony. After a beating, "It took three days to get a coherent statement out of him, but once he started talking, there was no holding him."
--Source: Rupert Butler, Legions of Death, pp. 236-237
His testimony included claims that 2,500,000 people had been killed in the Auschwitz gas chambers, and another 500,000 had died of other causes.
--Source: Höss testimony at the Nuremberg Tribunal, published in: IMT vol. 33, pp. 275-279
These claims by him are now dismissed by reputable historians, and contradicted by their own, remade memorial stone. 4 Million, really? Does anyone really think the 6 million number wasn't based on 4 million supposedly dying in this camp?
--My third claim: the Allies were guilty of the same things they were "prosecuting" the Germans for.
Chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson stated, in a letter to President Truman that the Allies...
--Source: Jackson letter to Truman, Oct. 12, 1945. State Department files.
The British Government admitted that they, were themselves guilty of "crime against peace" in the planning of a military invasion of Norway before Germany made their move. Britain and the Soviet union jointly invaded and occupied Iran, a neutral nation in 1941.
--Source: J. McMillan, Five Men at Nuremberg pp. 245, 414. "Behind the scenes at Nuremberg," London's Daily Telegraph, Jan. 27, 1977
--My fourth claim: the above, by no means exhaustive on the hypocrisy on crimes, is why there was no definition of "aggression" in the Tribunal's charter, which makes any "conviction" of Principle VI part A, Crimes against peace, a miscarriage of justice.
Funny side note: Notice how the UN adopted the same kind of language? Have you seen what Israel, a member since 1949 has done to Palestine?
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xenoPsychologist ago
well said. saved.
Vindicator ago
This is interesting. Thanks
Crensch ago
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Crensch ago
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ExpertShitposter ago
@Lauraingalls is a dumb jewish bitch, or one of the retarded jewed Christians who think jews are allies of the christian church because its the origin of jesus.
She is the poster-child for why i have no respect for Qtards, most of them are simple minded old farts whose brains don't work anymore.
Humans were meant to live 50-55 years, and there is simply a point where you become incapable of processing new information. This is why i don't bother redpilling anyone older than 40. They are not relevant to the revolution.
Furthermore, I spen't hours watching the violence on the streets of Paris. Not one of these fuckers had the balls to stand with the yellow jackets. Why? Because they like the gibs. They don't want to bring down the system. They don't want to give up their boomer comforts. They want the nigger slave labor to keep the economy rolling just long enough to pay out their pensions. Fuck the world after that amrite?
Apologies to rare exceptions. But for the most part....fuck old fart q boomers, they have no value any longer, they are just a drain, similar as the niggers. Generation revenge will save the world.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
it's sad to see that people like her can only attempt to shout people down, whatever yo believe you should at least be able to explain and argue for it
NeoGoat ago
I managed to red pill myself over 2 years in my early 50s. Yes, I swallowed the big pill one last. It was painful as hell for a couple days, as the last fairy tale was seen for what it was. In spring 2016, I supported Bernoe. Now, Trump is to my left. @Empress @Censch
ExpertShitposter ago
As i have said, apologies and respect to exceptions. I know 60 year olds who are 24h le mans racers. Not to many such exceptions.....
Teeder ago
I'm going to reply only because I think it's hilarious, not because you'll care. I'm 43. I've already been where you are. As have countless millions of white men. You aren't the first, nor even remarkable in any way. I blamed older people until I hit my 30's and realized the average 40 plus works harder than you ever have. Get up every day knowing their lives, and their families well being relies on it. We complain about most of the same things. The difference is, you believe the end is nigh. I believe it's all circular, and has been for generations. There's no revolution happening right now. Young people haven't done shit to instigate one. They sit, like you do now, complaining non stop about 40 plus folks on an age scale, like it has some important milestone of waste. Fact is, take away all those people and sure, you get rid of them, and then you starve, or get murdered. That's your war? On bot sides of that equation are people who think like Jews, or socialists, or libtards. Your only reference to life after this is what? Walking Dead? Call of fucking Duty Zombies? Metaphorically speaking of course.
When I was in my late teens and early 20s, I was already doing labor jobs. I was taking a tent and my dog and canoing up rivers and camping. Catching what I needed through fishing and trapping. That didn't start with idiotube. When we did something that deserved punishment, we didn't lose our cellphones or xbox. We lost our freedom and some skin. We didn't hit twitter and decry how mean the meanie parents were. Fucking over 40's always ruining everything. The average 40 year old male would hand the stupid smirk back to your, in a bag with your ass.
As far as what you posted about Nuremburg. Guess what? Every over 40 already knows. We didn't have to look it up on some chan site. Common knowledge. The difference though is we have families. Those things that require us to have jobs and put food on the table. We can't preach this shit because the over 40's when I was your age made sure we'd suffer, and harshly. But that was a drop in the bucket compared to the ones who winked, knowing full well it would come back around again. because it always does.
Hitler wasn't the first, and he won't be the last. The incoherent thoughts of this 43 year old also knows something else. Nothing you've done on Voat matters to anyone. Nothing has changed from yours, or anyone elses posts on here. There is no revolution of young people because this is all they can do, without guidance and know how, and all the pretending in the world won't change that
ExpertShitposter ago
Firstly not true in my particular case. I'm in my 30's and i have worked every moment of my life after i finished my education, and spent a year working two shifts back to back on my first job. On my second job i worked most Saturdays + overtime, and when the company went bankrupt after 2008, i had to take what ever shit job i could quickly. So despite being used to my office job, i transitioned to washing cars in freezing weather, and at times such as new years eve. Did not quit that job till i could find better first.
Difference between boomers and zoomers is that boomers got paid a lot more per unit of work done.
No we don't. In serious right wing circles, we complain about the complete destruction of the white civilization in the next 50 years, what is causing it, who is really behind it, and what the final solution is.
In Qtard wing circles, discussion revolves around the democrat/republican circus, put on by the jews, with the goal of keeping you occupied with meaningless bullshit and believing you have a political choice.
I agree. The people responsible for the current cycle of shit is primarily boomers.
The system is currently too strong, despite this, there are small revolutions happening around the globe, but boomers are not part of it.
Venezuela is burning, but its not the boomers who are dying on the streets. They were the ones who cheered on the commies who wrecked the country tho.
France is burning for months now, but its not the boomers having their hands and eyeballs blown of every day by cops. They were the ones who invited all the niggers draining the system tho.
Did the boomer have the balls to clean the island of leftists?
Did a boomer have the balls to clean the church/mosque of muslims?
Teeder ago
First, I appreciate that you spoke to me. I half expected the opposite, and just some rantings. My take on your responses. You're right in the sense that no, we don't clean the shit up. I say this because before you did, and by you I mean your age group, we also did. Remember 9/11, and the bombings from the 80's, 90's, and 2000's? That was us, and before that it was the boomers. As far as work? The overarching theme from young people is that there's no work. All the older people have jobs ect. Guess, what? We complained the same way. Young people, and by young I mean all the way down to my 8 year old, believe they deserve everything. They don't. I started in landscaping because it was the only thing I could find. I own my business now because I put in the time. I'm 43 and I feel like I'm 60 most nights. The business side of things is as bad as the labor. I'm inundated with the shit people we make fun of on a daily basis expecting to get hired over my regulars and take no thanks I have no openings as the means to an inquisition on my hate for immigrants, fags, dykes, and women. I'm not just expected to hire these fucks it's a demand from my own government. In my employ I have 5 people. 4 are white. One aged 47, 3 in their 30's and a 22 year old East Asian. His hiring came about when the local chamber of commerce decided that businesses that don't hire the influx of unwanted immigrants might have work directed towards the ones who do. I can't compete without that business. He's a lazy pos who refuses to take direction, speak English, or stay off his cellphone that he suddenly could afford before his first pay. It isn't rosy on the other side either.
As far as what we speak about in the confines of our own groups? It's the same. We've been talking about this since I was young, in my late teens. The destruction of white society started in 1914, and continued through today. Every war is whites dying to protect a lesser species. Sometimes against other whites, and sometimes that's the sole purpose. It wasn't boomers who said gays were ok. It was jews. The prevalence and acceptance by the way started with your age group, and the bloggers and media pushing it. Boomers may have set the laws in motion but only because your age group pushed it to fever pitch. Theres a reason old folks are considered racist and homophobic, and the younger generation more accepting. Except libtards. They're just degenerate fucks driven by greed and debauchery and that predates boomers by a millenia.
As far as whats going on in the world today? You don't seriously believe this started right now do you? Protests have been going on since the beginning of democracy, and communism. Difference is that today you get hit by rubber bullets for the most part. Not real ones. Governments attacking people? Not new. Police acting as govt agents? Not new. Media acting for special (((interests)))? Also not new. Equating boomers or anyone over 40 with the problems the world sees now? Obama says hi. So does Trudeau. And Merkel. All voted in by your age group in the last 15 years. All being given a carrot and still running towards it. My point? I don't hate you for it. I hate the ones who actually did it. There's a massive distinction to make. Most older folks I know fucking hate liberals. Their policies. Their beliefs. Their lemming like state of thought. The liberals when I was younger aren't the liberals of today. These are socialists and communists. The conservatives of today are a mirror image of the older liberals, at least in Canada. The old conservatives are what you'd call alt-right.
As far as France goes. I honestly could care less. If an election was held today they'd likely put their yellow vests away and vote Macron right back in. That movement started out with great intentions, but that isn't what it is now. Look at the people. Not the front lines. The back lines. The ones not getting their hands dirty.
Sorry for the long post and no quotes. haven't figured that out yet. You know, it's no different now than it was 50 years ago, at least concerning how younger people view older ones. We all go through the hate and vitriol for the next generation up the ladder. Older folk blame younger folk and younger folk blame older folk. Once you get to my age, which is not that far, or even older, you'll see the same things I see. I'm terrified of socialism and communism, because neither will be voted in by older people, but we'll be the first to pay. And you'll be second
ExpertShitposter ago
Yes.
Not really. If you look at the point when the shit really started to hit the fan in terms of laws, it was the 60's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
Then there were all the flower power hippies, that may have been right about the shitshow of how Vietnam was conducted, but wrong about everything else....
Nether of us were even close to being born back then.
I hate those who, in today's world of easy to access information, still haven't consumed the redpillls that they perhaps couldn't before the time of internet. And still refuse to acknowledge their responsibility for the current state of affairs. And yet they claim to be "researchers" and "patriots" and "woke", and saviors of the world.
Q people are like a down syndrome man who set an entire building with 1000 residents on fire, and is now trying to extinguish it by throwing glasses of water on the massive building. Simultaneously, he is denying he set the fire, and is calling the burning residents assholes for criticizing him.
That's who i hate. I expected better of them. Those who "did it" were always evil, nothing good was to be expected of them.
Just select the text, and hoover over the buttons above the text-box box to see what they do.
Meh, i already hate both boomers and zoomers. And they both hate me back ;D
Those who start prepping now, and achieve full prep in the next 20 years will get to see the undeserving masses eat shit. And if they lose it all, will always have the opportunity to go out fighting. As long as they hold on to their little stash of "boom".
Teeder ago
One thing we do truly agree on, is the qtards. If ever there was a group who would take credit for everything that does happen and no responsibility for anything that doesn't, it's them. And the jews
I know it's easy to feel hopeless and look for anyone to blame, but blame has to be put on the actual perpetrators. We have whites calling for our extinction. How fucked is that? We have men dressing as ladies and not only using it to access little girls, but being giving permission. Our kids are being taken from us and put in muslim homes. We have murderers being set free because they're black or muslim. There's expectations of reparation for people who were never slaves and had no slave bloodlines and the actual slave traders are still doing it while pushing for whites to pay for their crimes. We send billions to Africa so they can use cell phones while starving, raping and murdering their own and showing it on Facebook.Taking over countries where whites built something over 100's of years and destroying it in a week. Every single subversive media title is meant for one thing. Every single govt ploy for acceptance of migrants. Every single tranny and homo walking down the street. When I was 30 those things didn't exist. We had immigrants but skilled and from non-threatening countries. It says a lot that Sikhs, who bombed a passenger jet for attention, are now the most liked, and less feared non whites in Canada. That...is...fucked...
Prepping should be mandatory training for all white people. As well as firearm training, other weapon training, and carpentry. I include hunting, fishing, gathering and farming under prepping. It might not happen in my lifetime, but it will happen. We're a very patient race, but that push too far usually involves millions not seeing tomorrow.
17917278? ago
Never put this together but yeah, makes total sense.
Crensch ago
@Dragon40, since you linked support for your position from the Nuremberg Trials
And since you specifically referenced Eichmann,
A JEWISH historian by the name of Hannah Arendt wrote that the "eyewitnesses", who testified in 1961 in Jerusalem against Adolf Eichmann were only rarely able to distinguish between what actually happened to them years earlier, and what they had read, heard, or imagined in the meantime.
Source: H. Arendt, Eichmann in Jerusalem, pp. 224.
Lucy Dawidowicz confirms this, stating that "the survivor's memory is often distorted by hate, sentimentality, and the passage of time. His perspective on external events is often skewed by the limits of his personal experience."
Source: L. Dawidowicz, A Holocaust Reader pp. 11.
ANOTHER Jewish Holocaust historian, Gitta Sereny complained of those who "invented Holocaust events."
Source: G. Sereny, New Statesman pp. 17.
@think-
Dragon40 ago
I suggest that you consider two things: One, read the transcripts of the trial (which are online), and Two, examine the documents presented at the trial (which can be found in the printed set of Eichmann trial transcripts.
think- ago
Thanks. I will try to find these sources online.
think- ago
Thank you, Crensch. Going to read it later today.
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Lauraingalls ago
They need to do their own research. I looked at ALL the upvoats on all the Neo Nazi, Holocaust Deniers comments, and it made me sick. ALSO I have debated people on many subjects in the past. It is a BIG waste of time. Sick people stay SICK. You can't cure it. I noticed Paca Goat and even God's Angel had numerous posts proving that the Holocaust happened and they either got NO voats, or negative ones. People under the influence of SATAN can't be helped,
think- ago
Well, obviously they did 'their own research', this is what they came up with. They won't do you the favour of looking for books, pictures or videos that will support your arguments; you will need to give them that info, if you want to convince anyone.
And you will have to be able to respond to their arguments in detail - when they say people cannnot have been killed in gas chambers with wooden doors, you will have to show that it was possible nevertheless.
It's ok if you don't have the time for it, or don't feel you would like to do it, but then people will just stick to their own sources / videos. It seems that reports by people like @PacaGoat and your eyewitnesses don't suffice to convince them.
You have been here for five months; I have been here for more than two years (nine months as a lurker, and 1,5 years as an active user), I know the Voat community well, and I can tell you that the only thing that will convince people here are valid sources (NB: not saying your witness reports are not valid), and as many of them as possible.
@Crensch @srayzie @Blacksmith21 @Vindicator
PacaGoat ago
We... I do give information for research. However all we get from THEM is copy pasta. Links all expounding the same junk with no proofs others than more copy pasta. Comments 4 pages long and no evidence as I said save for the same discredited and usless garble in each post. If it were only one person ok. But when everyone is posting the same stuff only rearranged its crap. And then put comes the grammer and spelling police. This is how you know they have no argument. It is a tried and true athiest fall back, that is whwre it originated. Ive seen it for ten years. Always the same. Just get under their skin and see what comes out. They alway reveal themselves in the end. And hoss Ive been here for well over a year. Almost 2.
think- ago
I appreciate that, @PacaGoat. I was trying to explain the mindset of many people here. Whatever you might think about the info they found, they believe it is valid. This is why I think it needs to be discussed in detail. I cannot chime in, since I'm not familiar with the academic research on this subject.
All I can say is that I don't doubt that there was a genocide - an intentionally planned genocide -, and I don't doubt that millions of jews were killed. From what I gather, different academic researchers come to different conclusions regarding the exact number anyway.
Imo Hitler was a slimy shitbag with greasy hair who brought war over Europe, and it cracks me up that he and his fellow leading Nazis were all ugly and dark haired, while they promoted the ideal of blue-eyed blondes.
It is obvious that he was a puppet - he was introduced into high society by the members of Thule Society, who were into theosophy, and into the occult. And international bankers financed him, at least some of them (or all of them?) were Jewish.
Himmler admired the Dalai Lama, who has been a CIA asset, and is head of Tibetan Buddhism, a dark left-hand path religion, and some Nazis even visited him in Tibet. He renovated a castle which he intended to turn into the centre for esoteric gatherings, and Michael Aquino, one of the most notorious US satanists, went there a couple of years ago, to do a satanic ritual. He wrote in his autobiography about it.
I don't doubt that the Nazis were sadistic shitbags who enjoyed killing and torturing people, and they were the first who did mind control experiments (although I'm not sure whether Mengele was involved in this, or whether he 'only' did eugenic research).
@srayzie @Vindicator @Crensch @Blacksmith21 @LauraIngalls
PacaGoat ago
I sill try to add some to what I started yesterday. Down in myback right now. Prior work injuries acting up.
Mengele, as I remember from my reading from long ago, it was he who devised much of the torture methods. He used not nust Jews but Christians, gays and Gypsies. That was one sick lump of flesh. Many of the evil mad doctor scientist in the movies are crafted after him. Also Hitler and Gobbels where interested in the black sun cult.
Where have we seen that image recently? But let me pht this down right here. The Muh Joo arguments are a diverson from research. Interesting that it has begun to lead to deep diggin into the very thing the cabal is trying to hide....magine that. All the best. Im takin a pain pill!
PacaGoat ago
Hitler had groomers which was suspected many moons ago. I read his Mien Kaff or however you speil it....when I was in 7th grade. That was some seriously skrewed up goobledigook. There is also or was evidence he was possessed. One thing I have been keeping an eye on for the last well....almkst 20 years, is the missing data and history from the internet. I began to keep an eye out on it after a few trips to the local libraries. Books that were always on the shelves now gone and not replaced. Books I had checked out before. Lots of them. I have seen a massive purge followed by revisionist works.
The eugenic works by Hitlers doctors mirrored Sangers sorks here in the US and others. I am not sure if you are aware of the sterilization programs carried out by doctors here of persons that were deemed to be "undesirables." We are seeing in the demoncrat parth a resurgence of that thinking. Follow the path. I sill get back to you. Wifey calls. Lol
think- ago
I will look up Sangers, thanks. Yes, the NY abortion law sucks.
Blacksmith21 ago
You are correct on this issue. This will be the impetus of a follow on post as I do have some very interesting and relevant information on the subject. Recent stuff by names you know, who have been targeted by The Deep State. I just don't have the time right now.
think- ago
Thank you, Blacksmith21. Please ping me into your post, will you? Thank you. :-)
@srayzie @Crensch @Vindicator @LauraIngalls @PacaGoat
PacaGoat ago
Look forward to it
Crensch ago
I look forward to it.
Genuinely.
Lauraingalls ago
OK.
Lauraingalls ago
I really don't care to waste my time. NEVER worked in the past, won''t work now.
Crensch ago
Then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you won't take the time to support? It kills your credibility, and makes you look like a leftist, arguing with emotions.
This is called an 'anecdote'. Anecdotes are just about the lowest form of evidence you can present. It doesn't convince anyone after the truth - ever. Maybe you should read some about eyewitness testimony, too.
Nobody will believe this. Do you want to know why?
I could claim the exact same thing about people like you, and my claim would be just as valid (i.e., not valid) as your own.
You learned that your emotions aren't enough to convince anyone on this website. Leftists deal in emotional argumentation, and it works for them. Maybe Reddit is the place for you?
Yes you do. It bugs you to no end that people don't just respond, "Oh, my gosh! I never knew there were so many eye witnesses!" when you simply claim that there were, but provide none.
Do you want to know what kind of evidence we have?
This shows a holocaust museum website using photos that are not legitimate simply for the shock value. TWO of the pictures they used were false. What else did they lie about, LI?
Lauraingalls ago
I have freedom of speech. BYE. Quit messaging me.
Crensch ago
Nobody said anything different. OP made her submission, and YOU called people SICK for questioning an event that is illegal to question in many countries. I posit that YOU are the one that would prefer to shut down others' speech, and you're projecting that flaw onto me because you can't handle the fact that everyone else has behaved better than you have.
These "SICK" people are more open and friendly and willing to discuss than you are; you've behaved like a spoiled child, and some part of you realizes that. So, to feel better about yourself, you bring up something completely irrelevant.
Hmm, or did you maybe think that destroying your arguments somehow actually stifles your free speech? You're not that stupid, are you?
I'm not messaging you. I'm responding to your public comments. Are you trying to stifle my free speech?
think- ago
@Crensch: please see parent.
Crensch ago
https://imgoat.com/uploads/f3ef77ac0e/209193.jpg
Notice which of these your comment is missing?
Blacksmith21 ago
Notice what your response reeks of?
https://files.catbox.moe/9igih0.jpg
Crensch ago
Notice how none of that has any bearing on the argument, or who is arguing in good faith? Notice how none of that has any bearing on who has sources to support their position?
I noticed.
Blacksmith21 ago
Read some of D'Souza's works.
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Crensch ago
Read some of Hitler's, George Lincoln Rockwell's, and crack open a book on how to argue.
Blacksmith21 ago
You're glowing a bit, Crensch.
Crensch ago
You're really, really bad at this.
Blacksmith21 ago
No, you're really, really bad at this...you're nothing but a professional shitposter, at best: https://files.catbox.moe/c3zfx9.GIF
Crensch ago
Do you remember when I wrecked you so hard you deleted your own post?
I don't even shitpost all that much. Just because I don't really care to find the proper subverse for my posts doesn't make them shitposts, but I guess that's the best argument you can come up with.
You have always sounded more than a little like a Jew.
Blacksmith21 ago
Your life is so small that you actually tally "wrecking" someone online? Pretty pitiful.
Crensch ago
It's something you could never do. Meaning you're bad at this, and I am not.
Everyone else does, and I bet you're lying about that.
Blacksmith21 ago
Are you talking about the Schitt/Smollet thing?
Crensch ago
No.
Blacksmith21 ago
You sound like you are 14. And you have aligned yourself with the David Duke and Ilhan Omars of the world. You wrecked yourself, stud. You should get out in the sun a bit more.
Crensch ago
Imagine having someone you consider to be 14 wreck you so bad you self-delete your own post.
Blacksmith21 ago
Enjoy staying up until 0400 tomorrow pretending to be something you aren't online.
I bet you can't talk about a single man activity - motorcycles, guns, knives, cooking, shooting, construction, building shit, bourbon, etc. You're a little supple, pussy mouthed bitch who only has one mode - muh joos in muh basement.
Crensch ago
Kekekeke
What, exactly, am I pretending to be? Sounds like you really don't like the fact that you fail so hard here, while I do not. In fact, that's really the only metric anyone can use to compare the two of us, no?
I bet you can't formulate an argument with even an ounce of logos, and I bet you're a lard barge IRL.
Did I do it right?
Blacksmith21 ago
@srayzie can vouch for the fact that I'm about as far from a "lard barge IRL" as they come. In fact, I'm the type of man most women prefer - father, husband, MMA practitioner, prior military, combat experienced, badass vehicles and toys, and lots of discretionary income. Plus I'm still a handsome motherfucker. I'm confident you don't bring much to the table in the manliness department.
Looks like I was right - you stayed up until about 0400 shitposting. It's a sad life you lead @crensch. No IRL friends, nor IRL activities. While you are busy sleeping all morning, I'm modding another gun and prepping something from my motorcycle collection to go thrash on the back roads.
It's a gorgeous day outside. Peel yourself away from your Playstation and go get some vitamin D.
srayzie ago
You and @Crensch are both my friends. I wish you guys wouldn’t fight. Why don’t we just let it go. You guys are both awesome.
Vindicator ago
Yeah, I'm going to chime in agreement with srayzie, here @Blacksmith21 @Crensch. What we've got here is two cowboys having a pissing match. From my point of view, y'all work for the same ranch...so when you're done brawling about who is the bigger badass, maybe consider ending at the bar instead of with six shooters in the middle of the street?
Crensch ago
"I'm losing in this battle of wits, because I was born without any. Please look at these manly things that make me better than you. I win now."
I would lose sleep over having written sonething so pathetic. You basically admit that you know your mind is limited when you "argue" (kek) like this. It's no better than, "my dad can beat up your dad". It's worse, really, since you're obviously an adult, so there is no chance you will ever rise above the intllect level of "my irl is better than yours, so you lose this verbal argument."
Since you're too stupid to put the two together, what you're engaging in is a fallacy called ad hominem. You ignore my arguments and instead attack me personally.
Your mind is weak.
Blacksmith21 ago
"You ignore my arguments and instead attack me personally."
You avoided the initial point of debate, my friend, not I.
Crensch ago
I would never be the friend of someone that is so ill-equipped at thinking.
Also, maybe you should review this nest before accusing me of something so patently absurd. Every comment of mine up to your first ad hominem was directly about your words. You couldn't help but attempt to sound smarter by telling me to go read something.
How does it feel to fail so hard, and on so many different levels?
More attacking me directly? I'm sure that helps your position that the Holocaust really happened. Well, it helps in your mind.
You have got to be one of the most hilariously stupid people on this website.
Even when I point out directly what the problems with your arguments are, you press on with your failure as if you're a winner; hell, you can't even reference your own comments without failing.
Blacksmith21 ago
Thanks for the laugh, LOL. You haven't contributed jack shit to v/GA or v/PG in the 2.4 years I've been here. When you produce some relevant research to either sub, something based upon your keen intellect and the sharp mind you claim to possess, then I'll entertain a discussion. Until then, you're nothing but a shitposter/stirrer.
Lastly you shot down my suggestion to read D'Souza, and countered with reading Hitler and Rockwell. It's obvious you espouse Nazi ideology. All of the contemporary actors we work to expose are Nazis in both actions, deeds, tactics, methodology, etc. The only difference is your present-day Nazi party is now watered down with jungle bunnies, spics, sand niggers, gooks, and Jews. Turn on CNN - Deep State shills aka Nazi party propaganda arm. Which lands you square in the middle of what many of us fight here - The Deep State aka the 4th Reich.
IQ and intellect are meaningless without experience.
Protip: Proofread your writings out loud. You come across as a spoiled child.
Vindicator ago
Here is what I think about this topic: I think both of you are right.
As I understand it, @Crensch believes Jews are bent on subverting and ultimately eliminating white folks, using an insane campaign of lies and sneaky behind-the-scenes manipulation and control, the keystone of which is the Holocaust. He believes Hitler and the German people were made patsy's for the elite globalist Jewish cabal's crimes, when Hitler attempted to "make Germany great again." History's understanding of Hitler/Germany is shrouded in lies.
Crensch's conclusions are based at least on some unassailable facts, not on the disinfo that gets pushed here frequently by shills to muddy the waters about those facts. I knew very little about "the JQ" before coming to Voat, and my first exposure to it was trolls and/or shills hazing pizzagaters with the most extreme sketchy material, so I wasn't inclined to take it too seriously. It was, in fact, Crensch's particular type of honor and integrity, and his willingness to explain his views logically that made me seriously reconsider what I thought I knew.
Crensch, you should give Blacksmith those examples, rather than merely attacking him for doubting.
Blacksmith sees the ruling elite of the US and Europe as bearing marked similarities with the totalitarian, propaganda-pushing, eugenics-loving fascists of the Nazi era. As a result of this and mainstream history, he can't fathom how anyone could could embrace Hitler.
But where does the truth lie? How do we tease it out from all the BS disinfo that gets pushed surrounding this topic?
Back in November 2017, QAnon gave some hints about what the truth might actually be. One of these days, I mean to do a thread on it.
He hinted that both of you are correct to a degree. That elite globalists, particularly the Jewish banking house of Rothschild, were the ones behind World War I and II, not so much Hitler. He implied Hitler was a patsy to some extent, and that Merkel is related to him. Those drops need further research and discussion.
However, having contemplated this now for over a year and read much of Voat's talk on the JQ and Hitler, I would venture to say that you BOTH need to be prepared for shocking revelations. Blacksmith may discover that most of history is not what we thought it was. Crensch may be confirmed in his conclusions about the Jews, but find out Hitler was a puppet akin to Obama. (This is assuming Q (who either IS Trump or is working directly for him) was not pushing disinfo in those Merkel drops to force her to step down.)
Most importantly, Q has said that the truth about those who inflicted the World Wars on the citizens and honorable soldiers of the United States, Britain, Germany and every other white country is so foul the revelation of it "would put 90% of people in the hospital." That's how far off from reality our traditional understanding of history is.
I've spent the last year contemplating just what that must entail. I am now convinced that a lot of the Holocaust was an insane psyop. I don't know how much, or exactly which parts, but when you run the math on the 6 million gassed in death camps, it definitely doesn't hold up. I am also convinced they have used vaccines, drugs, crap in the water and food supply and maybe even electromagnetic radiation to cause disease, infertility, depression, and premature death for millions since World War I. They have done this to weaken the population for easier control, as well as to avoid overpopulation. I think they have targeted the white family in particular, and white men, who are the biggest threat to their ability to dominate. I think they regularly murder those who get traction against them, like Andrew Breitbart.
Now...I consider both of you major assets in the fight against these sick fuckers that goes on here in different ways every day on Voat. Seems kinda dumb for you to be fighting each other!
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srayzie ago
I think you’re probably right from what I know so far.
Crensch ago
"I don't like you, so I'm taking my ball, and I'm going home."
Kek.
That was a direct attack on me, not you addressing my words. Right there you're saying, "I don't have to listen to you because you didn't read this book and I am more knowledgeable than you and you just don't know what you're talking about."
Ducking my words by pretending to make a "suggestion". You're a coward.
Really? Do tell.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh holy fuck. Let's just not have words mean anything. NAZI =/= National Socialist, it means PEDOPHILES and DEEPSTATE.
But hey, maybe you have even an OUNCE of logos to back that claim up?
That's why I have nothing to do with that Jewish lie honeypot crap. But keep labeling me like a leftist would, you alcoholic faggot.
Do you want to know who else calls anyone they disagree with "Nazis"?
Want to write some more fanfic about me?
I have all three, you very obviously lack the first two; without them the latter is useless.
Protip: provide logos when arguing on Voat. Your words are Reddit-tier, and would only convince a leftist, which makes me think you might actually be one playing the long-con here as if you're just the village idiot, but still one of us.
Blacksmith21 ago
Yep, you're a shill. If I were playing the "long-con" I would have either:
A) A documented history of making posts exposing anything I can or;
B) A documented history of making bullshit comments in an effort to worm your way in to a v/PG mod position.
You may fool a lot, but you don't don't fool me. My instincts have yet to be wrong.
think- ago
@Blacksmith21, @Crensch isn't a shill. He really believes what he says.
I'm sure that there are Nazi shills on Voat, but @Crensch isn't one of them.
He didn't 'worm his way' to a PG mod position; it was him and @kevdude who defended v/pizzagate against the shill attacks after the sub had moved over here from Reddit.
He doesn't need to make submissions of his own, his role as an O is to defend v/pizzagate against outside attacks.
@srayzie @Vindicator
Crensch ago
You're probably too stupid to actually think anything through, but let's see how amusing your low-effort, one-facet response is, here.
Why would you do that? If you "expose" horseshit, you get exposed. If you actually expose shit, your handlers will have your head.
You have a documented history of posting barely-on-topic horseshit, and arguing like a leftist.
As of the past few comments you have a documented history of calling people you don't like "Nazis".
False dichotomy. I told you before:
You're bad at this.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh, shit. Nobody gives a fuck about your instincts. Even if they did, everyone that is anyone around you would disagree. Weren't you one of those defending Oh-Well-Ian, or whateverthefuck his name was?
How does it feel to be on team ESOTERICshade today, BS21? You're in good company. That guy is WAY smarter than you are, so maybe you should ask him how to not be so hilariously clumsy with your words?
Blacksmith21 ago
The fact that you've spent so much of your free time dedicated to the Voat drama and shill BS tells me that you have nothing else to do but sit behind your computer all day/night. In fact, it's a fair statement to say Voat is your social life, isn't it, Crensch? Sad.
I know this little back and forth is making your Saturday night. You're probably rocking back and forth, sucking on some soda, rubbing your hands gleefully together as you relish a Pyrrhic victory with an anon online. Pat yourself on the back, son. You've earned it /s
I could give a rat's ass about your opinion and false/baseless allegations. My submission and comment history stands on it's own merits. I'll go back to my last point - what have you contributed to the fight? Nothing.
Crensch ago
Were you ever going to defend your position, or is attacking some internet stranger, about MORE things you can't defend your go-to strategy to feel better about yourself?
What's really delicious here is that you recognize it's a victory for me. Your snark is how you hide your shame.
Could you? That'd be quite the sight! And a little gross.
What allegations of mine are false?
The submission history where you deleted your own submission after being completely and utterly destroyed? I remember that.
@Vindicator @srayzie @shizy @MolochHunter @think-
This guy continues to blatantly lie about shit like this.
This is Fagsmith's first submission on NR, dated 9/21/18.
This is the FIRST submission to call him out, dated 9/13/18, by @mr_shamalama.
THIS is @srayzie's first submission on it, dated 9/15/18, and you can ask her, I messaged her about his bullshit before she'd even gotten to read it.
I found his COMMENT, 3 deep, under the top comment of that OP.
How fucked in the head do you have to be to claim this?
And you still cannot defend the Holocaust, apparently.
kneo24 ago
The amount of cop outs used to defame you is pretty obvious.
At some point a pattern becomes obvious.
What should really get everyone's goat is him overstating his importance in NR and the Reddit mods ordeal. He came in after everyone was already all hands on deck, looking into these people and outing them for the scum that they were. There were a few insights I had not considered that he pointed out, but at the end of the day they were small compared to the work everyone else had put in and ultimately not that relevant.
Antiracist10 ago
Ahahahaha! This coming from Crensch, the biggest fucking idiot here. Hey, remember that time you eschewed all philosophy? That's where you got your pretty words from, you dumb faggot.
@Blacksmith21, Crensch is quite the fucking stupid creature. I documented its stupidity for a long time. My conclusions were consistent: He is really really fucking stupid, and fuck him.
Check out some of my work:
https://voat.co/v/Theology/1548772
https://voat.co/v/Theology/1548766
https://voat.co/v/Theology/1406672
https://voat.co/v/Theology/1405146
https://voat.co/v/Theology/1391897
God, he's so fucking stupid. Yet he speaks of argument and logos to you! Hah!