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Dragon40 ago

Utter bullshit.

Blacksmith21 ago

I love how these self-professed "historians" call all media propaganda now (which it largely is), yet don't consider the fact that most of this BS was propaganda then.

Crensch ago

Are you referring to the newspaper articles about 6 million before the war even happened?

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm referring to crap like this: https://files.catbox.moe/z3y3e4.png

It's Great Depression-era Daily Stormer crap. They had propaganda back then, just as they do now. Look at the history of this paper.

The Holocaust happened. Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.

It is the motives which are now in question.

We all know that the enemy we fight today is the 4th Reich. The Holocaust was a criminal act of persecution against the Jews for Deep State purposes perpetrated by the 3rd Reich.

History repeats itself. I

think- ago

Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.

I think the problem here is that @Crensch and other people who say the holocaust = genocide never happened have a list of arguments that should be responded to in detail; this is what @LauraIngalls wasn't able to do, she only replied in an emotional way, and quoted one Christian eye witness IIRC.

My suggestion would be to postpone the argument, immerse yourself in history books for a couple of months, and then come back, and have that discussion regarding the exact numbers, with a number of sources about how many Jews were killed where in which way.

I.e. instead of just saying that there are many eye witness reports, you might want to quote a couple of them, and link to sources.

I think it would be worth the effort.

Maybe @Crensch can do a list of arguments he has, and you can then come back and discuss these.

I feel this would be helpful for the whole community.

It doesn't matter whether @Crensch spends his spare time online or with fishing and hunting; as long as he has arguments you and others with the same position are not able to discuss in detail, with linked sources, he will be the 'winner' here.

@srayzie @Vindicator

Lauraingalls ago

I don't have time for all that. I know the TRUTH, President Trump knows the TRUTH, Paca Goat who knows survivors of the Holocaust knows the TRUTH. Anyone else that wants to be a Holocaust Denier can look up the history of that subject. I was told by Crensch that these Hitler supporters have been on Voat for years. They try to convert people to their side. I am not interested in being a Neo Nazi. By the way, there are many witnesses I "QUOTED". Obviously YOU didn't notice. And I am "EMOTIONAL" because denying that HORROR IS SICK. SOMEBODY has to CARE.

think- ago

By the way, there are many witnesses I "QUOTED".

Apologies if I overlooked that.

And I am "EMOTIONAL" because denying that HORROR IS SICK. SOMEBODY has to CARE.

It's ok to be emotional about it, but you won't win an argument, or convince people reading the thread this way. You will need to quote historians, and their sources.

@srayzie @Vindicator @Blacksmith21

think- ago

@Crensch: please see parent.