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Dragon40 ago

Utter bullshit.

Blacksmith21 ago

I love how these self-professed "historians" call all media propaganda now (which it largely is), yet don't consider the fact that most of this BS was propaganda then.

Crensch ago

Are you referring to the newspaper articles about 6 million before the war even happened?

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm referring to crap like this: https://files.catbox.moe/z3y3e4.png

It's Great Depression-era Daily Stormer crap. They had propaganda back then, just as they do now. Look at the history of this paper.

The Holocaust happened. Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.

It is the motives which are now in question.

We all know that the enemy we fight today is the 4th Reich. The Holocaust was a criminal act of persecution against the Jews for Deep State purposes perpetrated by the 3rd Reich.

History repeats itself. I

think- ago

Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.

I think the problem here is that @Crensch and other people who say the holocaust = genocide never happened have a list of arguments that should be responded to in detail; this is what @LauraIngalls wasn't able to do, she only replied in an emotional way, and quoted one Christian eye witness IIRC.

My suggestion would be to postpone the argument, immerse yourself in history books for a couple of months, and then come back, and have that discussion regarding the exact numbers, with a number of sources about how many Jews were killed where in which way.

I.e. instead of just saying that there are many eye witness reports, you might want to quote a couple of them, and link to sources.

I think it would be worth the effort.

Maybe @Crensch can do a list of arguments he has, and you can then come back and discuss these.

I feel this would be helpful for the whole community.

It doesn't matter whether @Crensch spends his spare time online or with fishing and hunting; as long as he has arguments you and others with the same position are not able to discuss in detail, with linked sources, he will be the 'winner' here.

@srayzie @Vindicator

Lauraingalls ago

I don't have time for all that. I know the TRUTH, President Trump knows the TRUTH, Paca Goat who knows survivors of the Holocaust knows the TRUTH. Anyone else that wants to be a Holocaust Denier can look up the history of that subject. I was told by Crensch that these Hitler supporters have been on Voat for years. They try to convert people to their side. I am not interested in being a Neo Nazi. By the way, there are many witnesses I "QUOTED". Obviously YOU didn't notice. And I am "EMOTIONAL" because denying that HORROR IS SICK. SOMEBODY has to CARE.

Blacksmith21 ago

This is what the don't want to talk about: https://youtu.be/KGE231k62Bs?t=29

Lauraingalls ago

Thank you for this. To the Neo Nazis and Holocaust Deniers this never happened. Scary people on VOAT.

Blacksmith21 ago

There are thousands upon thousands of hours of film footage interviews of first hand accounts by the US soldiers who liberated the death camps: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/liberation-of-nazi-camps

There are countess interviews with survivors who recount every horror one could experience and still be alive.

antiliberalsociety ago

Jews own the media, what are they going to say...

And let's pretend for a minute... that it actually happened. Does that mean we cannot criticize a Jew's crime just because they are Jewish?

The term Nazi comes from the NSDAP, it was a nickname given to them by the communists trying to discredit them in the 1920's. It's the suppression of truth that causes people to act out

Blacksmith21 ago

2 sides of the same coin. You are about to watch a lot of Nazis arrested for treason.

antiliberalsociety ago

Pop quiz: How did Russia come to be a nuclear superpower?

Answer: It was given to them by the RosenBERGS. Jews. Whom we executed for TREASON.

Blacksmith21 ago

The Rosenbergs just got caught. They we were part of a much bigger spy ring. I'm pretty sure when we execute Obama, Brennan, Comey, Lynch, Podesta, Rice, Jarrett there won't be any hook-nosed bagel eaters in the bunch. Correct?

antiliberalsociety ago

This was explained in 1920. Communism has a gentile as a front. The one who is at the helm and takes all the heat for controversial decisions usually designed to undermine nations. The nominal subordinate is the real power that operates behind the scenes. If George Soros came right out and admitted in his book that he owned Hillary and controls America (even calling himself God), and he's also coincidentally Jewish, that would fit this.

Now if you say "but that's antisemetic!" you'd have to refer back to the 1920 article written about the Russian Revolution.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

Written by none other than Winston S. Churchill. Now, he can't be an antisemite, he fought the Devil Incarnate, right? So why on Earth is he saying communism is a Jewish thing?