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Dragon40 ago

Utter bullshit.

Blacksmith21 ago

I love how these self-professed "historians" call all media propaganda now (which it largely is), yet don't consider the fact that most of this BS was propaganda then.

Crensch ago

Are you referring to the newspaper articles about 6 million before the war even happened?

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm referring to crap like this: https://files.catbox.moe/z3y3e4.png

It's Great Depression-era Daily Stormer crap. They had propaganda back then, just as they do now. Look at the history of this paper.

The Holocaust happened. Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.

It is the motives which are now in question.

We all know that the enemy we fight today is the 4th Reich. The Holocaust was a criminal act of persecution against the Jews for Deep State purposes perpetrated by the 3rd Reich.

History repeats itself. I

think- ago

Way too many first-person accounts to be a FF, statistically speaking.

I think the problem here is that @Crensch and other people who say the holocaust = genocide never happened have a list of arguments that should be responded to in detail; this is what @LauraIngalls wasn't able to do, she only replied in an emotional way, and quoted one Christian eye witness IIRC.

My suggestion would be to postpone the argument, immerse yourself in history books for a couple of months, and then come back, and have that discussion regarding the exact numbers, with a number of sources about how many Jews were killed where in which way.

I.e. instead of just saying that there are many eye witness reports, you might want to quote a couple of them, and link to sources.

I think it would be worth the effort.

Maybe @Crensch can do a list of arguments he has, and you can then come back and discuss these.

I feel this would be helpful for the whole community.

It doesn't matter whether @Crensch spends his spare time online or with fishing and hunting; as long as he has arguments you and others with the same position are not able to discuss in detail, with linked sources, he will be the 'winner' here.

@srayzie @Vindicator

Lauraingalls ago

I don't have time for all that. I know the TRUTH, President Trump knows the TRUTH, Paca Goat who knows survivors of the Holocaust knows the TRUTH. Anyone else that wants to be a Holocaust Denier can look up the history of that subject. I was told by Crensch that these Hitler supporters have been on Voat for years. They try to convert people to their side. I am not interested in being a Neo Nazi. By the way, there are many witnesses I "QUOTED". Obviously YOU didn't notice. And I am "EMOTIONAL" because denying that HORROR IS SICK. SOMEBODY has to CARE.

Blacksmith21 ago

This is what the don't want to talk about: https://youtu.be/KGE231k62Bs?t=29

Lauraingalls ago

Thank you for this. To the Neo Nazis and Holocaust Deniers this never happened. Scary people on VOAT.

Blacksmith21 ago

There are thousands upon thousands of hours of film footage interviews of first hand accounts by the US soldiers who liberated the death camps: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/liberation-of-nazi-camps

There are countess interviews with survivors who recount every horror one could experience and still be alive.

Lauraingalls ago

Paca Goat knew survivors but these Neo Nazi Holocaust Deniers are too evil to care how much evidence they get. I appreciate the information. I did not realize Nazis were STILL so strong and around.

Blacksmith21 ago

The Nazis just changed their outfits, infiltrated the US government, and expanded their ranks to include useful minorities - Jews, blacks, Muslims, gays, whatever. When the all-German thing didn't work for them, the new plan was to flip the script - rally the minorities while still controlling them and/or creating a symbiotic relationship (professional sports, media/entertainment, etc.) where they have to do follow the Masters' (Nazi leadership) commands.

Lauraingalls ago

I forgot about what you are telling me. The communists did the same thing. I guess I just got so upset learning there are so many Neo Nazis here that I wasn't thinking straight. It is frightening. I guess not everyone here is for the goodness of Q or President Trump. Lots of TROLLS and Deep State people and even some very messed up Q followers.

antiliberalsociety ago

Truth fears no investigation. It is documented in June 1940, Hitler offered peace to Churchill; basically "let's pack our things and go home". He offered not only peace, but offered his own military aid if Britain was ever under attack from Russia, China, or whomever (Russia was his ally at the time) he would provide whatever military aid they asked for as British and German cultures were too alike to be foes. No one denies this, not even the Jews.

Now, HAD Churchill accepted that peace offer (Mind you, Hitler was occupying Paris at the time), wouldn't he avoided the Holocaust from happening? At that point in the war they were fighting over Poland. The Holocaust didn't happen until after 1940. Why would Churchill let that happen by not accepting a peace offer? (One of 15 documented cables sent to Churchill from Hitler)