First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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Cc1914 ago
After trying to actually process all this I’m going to take @EsotericShade s advice that he always gave me and , “ Speak my mind “ or was it really donkey ? This thought disgusts me ! I’m not going to go on and chastise you because that’s not my style. I will say you hurt a lot of people who actually developed friendships with you and that’s just wrong on so many levels . Call me over emotional or whatever ..
ESOTERICshade ago
I'm not Donkey. The Donkey hates me. The Donkey tears me apart every time I open my mouth. The Donkey is the Donkey and he don't like me. Actually, I don't think the Donkey likes anybody.
think- ago
Interesting that you haven't replied to that part of @Cc1914's comment, Esoteric.
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock
ESOTERICshade ago
I am not the Donkey. What else can I say about it? The Donkey hates me as much as he hates everybody else.
think- ago
Her comment that you hurt people was directed directly at your EsotericShade screenname, as you perfectly well know.
So, what do you have to say to @Cc1914's comment:
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @srayzie
srayzie ago
What do you mean by that @Cc1914?
Cc1914 ago
What do I mean by what ?
srayzie ago
Because you said...
I was wondering if I missed something or if you’re referring to Esoteric being accused of being Donkey.
Cc1914 ago
I was telling ES he hurt a lot of people by lying and acting like he cared basically is what I meant . Did you read my whole comment ? This is mind boggling, how long have you known about ES being donkey ?
srayzie ago
I don’t think he is Donkey. I’m not disagreeing about everything, but the Donkey part I disagree. I was close to Esoteric at one time. I think I read it all. I was in a rush.
Cc1914 ago
I considered him a friend . It’s hard to believe he could play such completely different characters as donkey and ES because I didn’t think the ES I knew , could stoop to donkey levels . Why did he answer as “ donkey” to a comment made to “ES “?
ESOTERICshade ago
I can assure you that I am not Donkey and that should be pretty obvious. Our personalities are nothing alike.
Crensch ago
... says the vote manipulator and consensus manufacturer.
Kek.
ESOTERICshade ago
Says the person that rigged the v/pizzagate mod sub so that nobody but him and his alts could down vote, and hid the sub from v/all so that the rest of voat would not notice how he was handling things in the v/pizzagatemods sub.
think- ago
Him and his alts? Which alts?
@Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @srayzie @Shizy
ESOTERICshade ago
Alts or people he selected or knew could down vote, because, somebody was damn sure down voting and we know who is ultimately in control of the v/pizzagatemods sub.
Everybody that was paying attention knows it happened. It left a comment trail too. I won't argue with you or anybody else about it. I don't care. I have ignored this sub mostly because I so don't care. Now, i'm gonna go do some stuff I want to do that does not include any of this bullshit. You have a good day.
Crensch ago
I'm sure @think- remembers this comment that describes the tactics you're using here. "muh better than you and all of this IRL" crap, along with low-effort since you provide no proof of anything.
ESOTERICshade ago
There will be effort, it won't be low, it will be high effort, but it won't be here at this webiste. Before the winter freeze hits we have a lot to do in my family. I have to help my nephew put a hot water heater in one of our rent houses in the morning and i'm getting my tools together. It weights about 400 pounds, we can't drain it because the valves are rusted shut, its been in the house for about 30 years, the plumbing will suck and have to be redone too, then install a new one. I know you don't care but that is what is on my plate right now. Its my real life.
I want you to understand that I don't intend to invest my time trying to wrestle control of the v/pizzagate sub. I don't have the desire, the time, nor the inclination. Nor do I want to cause trouble for the v/pizzagate sub.
I had an opinion that I still have and it is this........The v/pizzagate sub is supposed to operate on facts as best as possible. The Qanon community deals pretty much strictly in speculation and guesses, with a big dose of hope added in.
I didn't want the v/pizzagate sub to turn into wild guesses and speculation and I firmly believe that is what would have happened if pizzagate and Qanon became some sort of Unicorn hybrid. I think that mix would dilute and discredit pizzagate and all our efforts might go down the drain. I would hate for that to happen. I have a lot of years invested in this project.
I hold no animosity for any of you guys. We all have our own perspectives depending on what we all have been individually been exposed to. We all have our own mental skill sets.
I just want pizzagate to remain focused on its mission and not get caught up in the theatre of Washington D.C. drama and mainstream fake news narrative. If it happens, it just happens. I hope it does not happen. Pizzagate became huge because it followed NOBODY. Pizzagate blazed it's own trail. It led and did not follow. I hope that continues.
I have to get my tools ready for morning. I wish you well. I have a damn good feeling you will get your wish and see less of me around here for a lonnggggg time. Adios......
Crensch ago
Telling us a story about how he will be gone for a long time because of a water heater. Kek.
@think- @Vindicator @kevdude @srayzie @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
Nope. Just an example of real life. The reason I will be gone for a long time is because I don't want to deal with the likes of you, the abyss of ignorance and intellectual bankruptcy. I know people that have read a lot of the following. Why would I hang out with you instead? You want to learn about your "jews" you hate so much. Read all this and stop flapping your gums. Silence is a virtue, sometimes....
It took me a lot of years to search all this out and find it. I'm giving it to you in a nutshell, even though I don't really like you. But you are young and maybe you can't help it. Take a look. Plenty of good "jew" books in here. You can find some seriously good quotes to support your cause, I PROMISE YOU THAT.
You want to sit on the internet and type "nigger kike faggot jew" over and over all day or you want me to guide you to the good shit?
Secret history of the Cabal
https://archive.org/details/isisunveiledama02blavgoog
https://archive.org/details/SecretTeachingsOfAllAges
https://archive.org/details/SecretHistoryOfTheJesuits
https://archive.org/details/EustaceMullins-TheCurseOfCanaanADemonologyOfHistory1987
https://archive.org/details/MullinsNewHistoryOfTheJews1968
https://archive.org/details/GogMagogAndTheKingdomOfTheKhazarsParts12
https://archive.org/details/ToaffArielBloodPassoverTheJewsOfEuropeAndRitualMurder
https://archive.org/details/ThirteenthTribeTheKhazarEmpireAndItsHeritage
https://archive.org/details/TheSecretsOfTheFederalReserve
https://archive.org/details/Solzhenitsyn200YearsTogether
https://archive.org/details/TheBiologicalJew
My Irrelevant Defence
https://archive.fo/hloSO
https://archive.org/details/TheHistoryOfJewishHumanSacrifice
https://archive.org/details/cu31924074315833
Hat tip to @2impendingdoom
Justin Davis Files. This one is really bizarre and sad. Justin Davis was on the run from the cult. He posted on facebook while homeless. About the only pleasure he had in life was going to public places he could play chess for free. He was a good chess player. While on the run and homeless Justin posted what he could on facebook in an effort to out the people he knew that were murdering and torturing. They did weird things to Justin such as sneak up on him while he was asleep, drug him, sew threads into his chest coated with poisons or some substance, and clipped the ends flush with the skin so that they were not visible. I rescued this information and uploaded it to archive.org
https://archive.org/details/JustinDavisFilesText
Morals and dogma of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
https://archive.org/details/moralsdogmaofanc00pikeiala
The Rite Of Sodomy In the Catholic Church vol one and two
https://archive.org/details/rite-of-sodomy-vol-i
https://archive.org/details/rite-of-sodomy-vol-ii
Sabbatai Zevi [microform] : a tragedy in three acts and six scenes with a prologue and an epilogue
https://archive.org/details/sabbataizevitragasch
https://archive.org/details/SatanicIlluminatiBloodlines
https://archive.org/details/SpringmeierFritzEzekial63_201603
https://archive.org/details/TheIlluminatiTreeOfDeath
https://archive.org/details/TheInternationalJewTheWorldsForemostProblemhenryFord1920s
https://archive.org/details/TheJewTheGypsyAndElIslam
https://archive.org/details/KeviewATheOralLawAndItsDefenders_201605
https://archive.org/details/KeviewATheOralLawAndItsDefenders_201605
https://archive.org/details/TheJewishStrategy
https://archive.org/details/JewsAndTheBritishEmpire
https://archive.org/details/SecretTeachingsOfAllAges
https://archive.org/details/TheJewsAndTheirLies1543En1948
https://archive.org/details/TheShabbateanFrankistsUndTheEuropeanNobility
https://archive.org/details/fp_Naomi_Klein-The_Shock_Doctrine
https://archive.org/details/ultimateevilinve00terr
https://archive.org/details/The_Satanic_Rothschild_Dynasty
https://archive.org/details/The_Satanic_Rothschild_Dynasty
https://archive.org/details/LiesOfTheWhiteSlaveTrade_201702
This is a text.
https://archive.org/details/WhiteWalterWhoBroughtTheSlavesToAmerica_201605
https://archive.org/details/WilliamCooper-beholdAPaleHorse
Bill Cooper FOIA fbi files release
https://archive.org/details/billcooper-fbi1
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/author/devere/kingdom.html
Crensch ago
No, it's not. It's exactly what I said it was - a ploy by you to pretend to have more important things to do than comment.
Also, why would I want to read through the links of someone that needs to manipulate votes and manufacture consensus? Obviously your words and knowledge don't resonate with anyone organically, which means either your information is bad, or you're too stupid to present it in a way that anyone will give a damn about.
I don't really need any more. After a certain point, the information becomes needlessly esoteric in nature. Nobody cares about how well-read you are, or how many pieces of uselessly specific information you have.
Nobody.
The cabals and masons and JEWS and cult members and whatever else - NONE of that information matters if we hunt them to extinction.
Apparently, all of your links guided you to manipulating this website with alts and vote brigades.
It guided you to fashion your own Hegelian dialectic when you attacked new and vulnerable users with your alts, while swooping in to save the day as ESOTERICshade.
And you thought I didn't know what the fuck Hegelian dialectic was! God, that must sting, knowing that your own talking point can be used against you now, as a certainty of you using it to manipulate others for your own advancement.
@Vindicator @think- @srayzie @kevdude @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
These are books. Since you are Voat's Genius you should be able to sort all that out.
Some of them written before I was even born, some not. Some good stuff in there for a person with the time to look. What I did was use a book browser and search by keyword for stuff I was interested in, like your passion, the Jews. There are some good works in the pile and this is not all I have.
You shoud be able to recognize, just at eye level sight, about four of these books. Actually more, but i'm cutting you some slack. Are we here to insult each other or are we here to swap information and learn? You tell me?
Crensch ago
Books that led you to needing to manipulate people, apparently.
I know what I need to know, and I dig for what I want to know. YOU manipulate people, votes, and consensus to force your will upon others.
You're here to be mocked, apparently; I'm here to mock you, obviously.
ESOTERICshade ago
It is books proving the history of your premise that people of Jewish origin are often behind the ills of mankind. Try these. Use a book reader and use the search function. This is just off the top of my head.
This is a history of where the bastards came in from ancient ages. The people we are dealing with are the Pharisees from days of old.
https://archive.org/details/EustaceMullins-TheCurseOfCanaanADemonologyOfHistory1987
Seriously dirty deeds from the bastards.
https://archive.org/details/ToaffArielBloodPassoverTheJewsOfEuropeAndRitualMurder
This is where the bastards originate from.
https://archive.org/details/ThirteenthTribeTheKhazarEmpireAndItsHeritage
Eustace Mullins more updated version of his thoughts about it.
https://archive.org/details/MullinsNewHistoryOfTheJews1968
This one ain't bad. Been years since I read it.
https://archive.org/details/TheBiologicalJew
Pretty amazing at 19 years old, but, somehow, I doubt that a little bit :) I saved Gigabytes of stuff you can't even find anymore. I saw the info purge coming and I grabbed Gigabytes, and Gygabytes, and Gybatyes, and Gybates of it....I still got it.
That is too bad for everybody.
Crensch ago
Still going at this? Nobody cares, faggot. You're like a convict trying to tell an upstanding citizen how to live well.
ESOTERICshade ago
Incorrect. Myself and people far above your knowledge level swap intellectual info (not about you) all the time. We swap info UP ON THE LEVEL I just tried to give you. We discuss it. People that understand it do indeed care. Getting close to bedtime for me. Sorry you found no value in the books I gave you. I wish you well. Good night and I hope you have a good life.
Crensch ago
What's hilarious is I didn't need some knowledge level to destroy you. I didn't need knowledge to constantly outplay you. I'm more intelligent than you'll ever be, and no amount of books you read can cause you to best me.
Anyone that DID care now sees what you are, if they're here on Voat. Though I doubt you had any, I do hope you lost friends over it.
ESOTERICshade ago
Actually I gained some friends. I wish you well.
think- ago
No. You have groomed people in order to use them later. This isn't friendship.
Like you thought you could groom me as a buddy, and later use me as your pawn and tell me how to mod.
Remember there was a reason why I blocked you on my second day as a mod here. And I have blocked only five users so far.
You have actually HURT people. Read @Cc1914's comments again. Oh, but you already said you gave a 'frickin shit' that you hurt other users.
Btw., did you groom migratorypatterns as well? She suddenly got a fit of rage when I referred to her as a woman, then said she wasn't a woman, and would never be one, and on the next day she deleted her account.
At the end of last year, you wrote a PM saying that you had pissed off everybody in your real life. NOW I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
Oh, and btw., talking about your rl, you really shouldn't drink that much.
Your private email handle is quite interesting too for someone that pretends to fight satanism.
And this is probably your biggest lie.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @kevdude
ESOTERICshade ago
I will tell you something else. My private mailbox fired out a bunch of messages. It literally created accounts from the first letters in the subject line of a message. It sent a message out to those accounts. This place is fucked and I don't trust it. You stay and fight these spooks. I go. Later.
Vindicator ago
LMAO. Check in with the guys at Langley you share your account with. They're probably fucking with you.
If this were a real bug, you would have reported it to @Peaceseeker and @PuttItOut in v/voatdev like any honest goat here would do for the sake of Voat.
@Crensch @think-
PeaceSeeker ago
/u/ESOTERICshade:
Example: /u/dghjgthbvvc640vcb does not exist, yet it is hyperlinked automatically nonetheless. Likewise, messages can be sent to it, but that will not stop anyone from making such an account. If I send a message to the above user, and you create an account with that username a month from now, the record of my message will then be sent to that user. That's all.
Vindicator ago
Thanks for explaining that, Peace. The King of the Weasels here is claiming his account sent messages by itself, not just that it "created usernames". He is implying Voat is compromised:
https://archive.fo/Pk6QS
Trying to scare away those investigating elite corruption by raising doubt in their minds that Voat is a honeypot, and probably create plausible deniability in case any of the users he has groomed privately decide to out him by sharing PM's sent from his main account or any of the alts we have uncovered that he has used to try to manufacture consensus and game Voat's voting system.
ESOTERICshade ago
I sent screen shots of it to people you know very well. Be careful before you shoot your mouth off.
think- ago
Is this a threat, EsotericShade? And if so, with what are you threatening @Vindicator?
Speaking of screenshots, I did screenshots of all of your comments, and also archived the threads.
@MadWorld has also been so kind to archive your comment history.
@Crensch @srayzie @kevdude
ESOTERICshade ago
Absolutely not a threat. That was a comment to Amy, and you KNOW that. It simply meant be careful what you joke around about because somebody might try to twist it into something that it isn't. Just like you are doing now. You are taking a comment I made to Amy, trying to make it seem as if it was a threat to Vindicator, and spinning it all out of context. I don't hate Vindicator. I just didn't want the v/pizzagate sub to get so deeply meshed with Qanon that it dissolved the main mission. This is very simple. It's not complicated.
You are taking a comment I made to Amy, telling her to be careful about joking around because somebody might spin it into something it's not, and attempting to weaponize it. Amy has had enough grief. She outed one of the worst pedo Youtube channels in existence. She paid a heavy price for doing that.
The mod team here has turned into a mob mentality. You leading the lynch mob now or what?
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think- @kevdude @shizy @EricKaliberhall
"Hi, my name is ESOTERIC, and I got my meth-addled mind demolished by a user I think is 19 years old. I write comments telling this user to "grow up" using nigger slang, and tell him to find his own voice while creating alts and manipulating votes and consensus to amplify my own. I groom women on this site by attacking them with my alts, and downvoting them to make them feel like shit; then I swoop in and save the day as ESOTERICshade, and create my own Hegelian dialectic scenario in doing so."
"Notice how I try to use snark here to try and make this 19 year old sound absurd, but it only confirms to him, and others, that I REALLY slipped up in bringing up meth heads in the first place; I'm an overemotional Jew that can't help but make mistakes and show my weaknesses when the goyim makes me feel inferior. Here I am intimidating a woman I previously threatened and harassed by confronting her when she very obviously wants nothing to do with me."
"Here I am, pretending I don't think about a user much after threatening him to "be careful before you shoot your mouth off", basically proving that I am capable of the harassment mentioned above, but incapable of sticking with one narrative or manipulation tactic. Like this one where I weave a story where I allude to Voat being a CIA honeypot out to get me because of the TRUTH my meth-addled mind speaks!"
ESOTERICshade ago
I am no threat to you. I wish you the best.
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think- @kevdude @shizy @EricKaliberhall
"Hi, my name is ESOTERIC, and I got my meth-addled mind demolished by a user I think is 19 years old. I write comments telling this user to "grow up" using nigger slang, and tell him to find his own voice while creating alts and manipulating votes and consensus to amplify my own. I groom women on this site by attacking them with my alts, and downvoting them to make them feel like shit; then I swoop in and save the day as ESOTERICshade, and create my own Hegelian dialectic scenario in doing so."
"Notice how I try to use snark here to try and make this 19 year old sound absurd, but it only confirms to him, and others, that I REALLY slipped up in bringing up meth heads in the first place; I'm an overemotional Jew that can't help but make mistakes and show my weaknesses when the goyim makes me feel inferior. Here I am intimidating a woman I previously threatened and harassed by confronting her when she very obviously wants nothing to do with me."
"Here I am, pretending I don't think about a user much after threatening him to "be careful before you shoot your mouth off", basically proving that I am capable of the harassment mentioned above, but incapable of sticking with one narrative or manipulation tactic. Like this one where I weave a story where I allude to Voat being a CIA honeypot out to get me because of the TRUTH my meth-addled mind speaks!"
"Just like above, I like to tell users exercising their FREE SPEECH things like this:"
"But it's totally NOT a credible threat from me, goyim! TOTALLY USE YOUR FREE SPEECH just nothing offensive, cuz someone will get you, K? I have my meth heads and water heaters to deal with, so I, myself, am too busy to be a threat to you! See? I'll even tell you myself that I'm no threat to you, which makes it believable, right?"
ESOTERICshade ago
A lot of people have been done wrong by the "powers that be" and I don't want you to end up in that category. I think you mean well but be careful. You are the owner of a very controversial sub. A lot of powerful people probably don't like what is being posted here. There is NO FUCKING WAY I would be the owner of this sub. I am simply suggesting that you take the role seriously and protect yourself. The things that can be brought to bare, NOT BY ME, BUT BY THE PERPS, is more complicated than most people can imagine.
I am giving you damn good advice. It is free so take it for whats it worth. I promise you this>>>>I am not, and have never, threatened you. I think you are young and maybe you don't realize what sort of position you are in. If that is the case, be careful. That is all that I am saying. You have your whole life in front of you. The perps have a maze of ways to fuck up a person's life. Just be careful.
think- ago
Hmm.....
.....a couple of months ago you wrote that @Crensch should be fired, and the key to the sub should be handed over to you, and you would like to appoint mods.
Do you really think anyone will believe it's credible that you changed your mind? Honestly?
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[–] ESOTERICshade 2 points (+4|-2) 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)
Some of the great posts that get deleted literally take weeks to prepare, the really good ones that is. People that are that smart, dedicated, and can "see" well enough to make those associations, and then even present it and make it understandable get seriously irate when it gets deleted and relegated to the back water.
For instance this post right here, the one @crensch calls a piece of shit done by an idiot.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2390929
Well, the "idiot" that figured a lot of that out is @swordfish69. Swordfish is almost legendary for his ability to make associations that most people cannot see. pizzagate is a freaky world and it takes a special eye to spot this level of connection and it takes years to learn to see it.
@letsdothis1 understood it well enough to pick up on it and add to it. So @crensch comes along and calls it a piece of shit, tells everybody that anybody that disagrees with him is always wrong, and then insults everybody that ties to reason with him. @crensch does not have the skills to see it.
crensch said he would hand over the keys to this place to somebody we choose. Great. Hand us the password to the main name that started this sub. I will go in and change the password and nobody but me will be able to get in. I will fire everybody that needs to be fired. I will pick three mods starting with with @think- and @vindicator and @Asolo if he wants the job. I will pick one or two more.
I can straighten this sub out. I know I can. I can pick me some mods that understand pizzagate, want to mod, and put this place on autopilot so that I don't even have to do the modding myself.
@crensch made the offer. Cough up the keys crensch. We will be rid of you and Falcon both. Its the best idea you have ever had.
@Crensch @Vindicator @kevdude @srayzie @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
I"m not reading all that. You spent hours on it, but nope, not me i'm not even that interested. You guys keep your war against....whatever it is....you are at war with....I will keep not giving a fuck.......I swear to god I won't even read all that shit and I can't believe you wasted your time compiling it.
think- ago
Your choice. It's basically just a long old comment of yours (you don't like your own writing?), with a little intro by me. :-)
But don't complain later that you don't know what I wrote. :-)
It is formatted properly. Read it properly. :-)
But I'm generous today, I will emphasize bold letters what your quote is where you say that you should be made an O, Crensch should be fired, and that you want to appoint the mods. :-)
I will format it in a way that even the dumbest of retards will be able to get that your plan has been to take over this sub. :-)
@Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Shizy @MolochHunter
ESOTERICshade ago
If I ever said I wanted to be the owner of this sub I must have been in a weak moment out of my damn mind. No way I would do that. I would not do that job for one hundered thousand dollars a year. No amount of money could entice me to do that job. I do suggest that the resident fuckwit owner of this sub be replaced by somebody else though. But, who would that be? I dunno. If the resident fuckwit @crensch would go back to his cringworthy darkness, and let @kevdude and @vindicator run this place, along with yourself, I think things will be ok.
MINUS THE QANON stuff. The rules state that this sub is at least attempting to be fact based. We have to maintain that if we hope to have any credibility. I like @vindicator but he wanted to mash this sub in with the Qanon world of wild speculation and guesses. I threw myself upon the gears of that machine and let myself get mashed up in the process.
This is not complicated. It is very simple.
think- ago
No. You have pushed the 'Crensch needs to go' narrative for ages, it started months before you left that comment, and it has been pretty clear that you want to take over the sub, and be an O, like you said yourself in the comment I quoted.
I do believe however, that you don't want to mod, since you know how much time and effort his would cost.
Remember that you told me on my first or second day as a mod (before I blocked you because you treated me as if I were your pawn) that you always make long-term plans and strategies.
Do you want me to dig up this PM as well?
@Crensch @Vindicator @kevdude @EricKaliberhall @srayzie
ESOTERICshade ago
Should have happened yesterday. It is not too late. That idiot needs to get the fuck out. How many times can I say that without repeating myself? crensch can type "nigger faggot kike shill" a dozen times in a minute without making a typo. Fuck that. I need a more intellectual diet.
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think- @EricKaliberhall @kevdude @shizy
"Hi, my name is ESOTERIC, and I got my meth-addled mind demolished by a user I think is 19 years old. I write comments telling this user to "grow up" using nigger slang, and tell him to find his own voice while creating alts and manipulating votes and consensus to amplify my own. I groom women on this site by attacking them with my alts, and downvoting them to make them feel like shit; then I swoop in and save the day as ESOTERICshade, and create my own Hegelian dialectic scenario in doing so."
"Notice how I try to use snark here to try and make this 19 year old sound absurd, but it only confirms to him, and others, that I REALLY slipped up in bringing up meth heads in the first place; I'm an overemotional Jew that can't help but make mistakes and show my weaknesses when the goyim makes me feel inferior. Here I am intimidating a woman I previously threatened and harassed by confronting her when she very obviously wants nothing to do with me."
"Here I am, pretending I don't think about a user much after threatening him to "be careful before you shoot your mouth off", basically proving that I am capable of the harassment mentioned above, but incapable of sticking with one narrative or manipulation tactic. Like this one where I weave a story where I allude to Voat being a CIA honeypot out to get me because of the TRUTH my meth-addled mind speaks!"
"Just like above, I like to tell users exercising their FREE SPEECH things like this:"
"But it's totally NOT a credible threat from me, goyim! TOTALLY USE YOUR FREE SPEECH just nothing offensive, cuz someone will get you, K? I have my meth heads and water heaters to deal with, so I, myself, am too busy to be a threat to you! See? I'll even tell you myself that I'm no threat to you, which makes it believable, right?"
"This comment employs tactics such as LYING about not understanding what comment another user is referencing, despite an archive being provided, the brown-nosing of ONE mod while attempting to gaslight another, and the 'u mad bro?' coupled with my telling the user to "take a break" in order to cool off, because they are TOTALLY mad, just because I said so!"
"I like to LARP as grampa ESOTERIC and warn you of things any sane person would already be aware of, but I'm TOTALLY doing it for your own good because you totally mean well, but you're also totally a meth head that SNORTS meth and needs to go to rehab!"
"I will spit-wad my accusations and talk about "how long it took" for him to write out the above comment and how I'm TOTALLY not going to read it. I want desperately to find out what sticks, but my mind doesn't work well enough to do so because I snort meth; sadly, my friends and family also snort meth, so they cannot help me beat this guy, either."
"Hey guise, I totally did a thing that was totally good for PG and you NEED me because reasons and it TOTALLY excuses my use of alts to brigade and manufacture consensus and groom users, all of which I have never apologized for because I am not sorry."
"I'm not going to read your comment - too busy snorting meth. I love meth. Meth should be legalized. Meth heads are awesome. But somehow I'm worried about CRENSCH'S state of mind."
"I like to blow smoke up users' asses, like this, where I say nice things about Crensch, but 8 months ago and even 1 hour ago I show that that I think Crensch is a fuckwit."
"When I, ESOTERIC, get caught in a lie, I claim it was a 'weak moment'. I somehow KNOW other 'users' will show up... oh, sorry, 'WELL KNOWN USERS' that mostly happened to be my alts. Did I mention I'm a Jew that loves meth heads?"
"As a meth-addled Jew, it's very difficult for me to see patterns that goyim can easily see, therefore, my words often don't make any sense; I'm also lazy, and like to pretend I have a real life, despite meth being a huge part of that life."
"As a Jew, I make lots of mistakes when I'm emotionally compromised; also, as a a meth head, I use my JewJitsu to try and lie my way out of my mistakes. It used to work long ago, but the goyim are waking up!"
"Ignore all of those times I mocked you while brown-nosing others, and all those times I've flip-flopped back and forth - YOU, kevdude, are the one cool guy in the room! ... for now.."
"I LOVE accusing others of things I, myself have done. Like gaslighting, and botting, and running off good users of PG, and including myself by saying "we left" when I never actually left... I say that multiple times because I am insecure, and need to repeat myself to calm my meth-addled nerves."
"(((We're on the same side, GOYIM!))) Also, I have NO TIME for this because of a trailer and a truck, because my IRL is better than yours - also I TOTALLY don't get shekels for being here. You believe me, right?"
"Forget three paragraphs above where I was brown-nosing kevdude and disparaging you, Vindicator, because you totally do a good job and I have no problem with what you do. No, wait, it's think- I like now! Please don't make me withhold my approval from you for disagreeing with me, think-!"
"I was TOTALLY out of my mind 7 paragraphs ago where I said nice things about Crensch, he needs to be gone yesterday because I can't see anything but words that hurt my feelings."
think- ago
@Shizy @MolochHunter: please see my comment above.
Apologies for spamming your inboxes, but I feel you, too, should know what has been going on here.
Shizy ago
Don't apologize, this is really the only way I'm able to keep up on whayes happening with this, so thank you!
He has to be getting paid or is just downright mentally ill to keep this going.
think- ago
You're welcome, Shizy. He has been operating on v/greatawakening as well, f.e. with his alt 'dragonkiller', so I feel you and @MolochHunter should get updated about the details.
He is certainly getting paid. Considering everything we know, even stuff we don't put on the threads. It has been a full time job for him to run that many alts (and he still continues creating new ones), and to groom that many users.
@srayzie @kevdude @EricKaliberhall @Vindicator
Crensch ago
"Hi, my name is ESOTERIC, and I got my meth-addled mind demolished by a user I think is 19 years old. I write comments telling this user to "grow up" using nigger slang, and tell him to find his own voice while creating alts and manipulating votes and consensus to amplify my own. I groom women on this site by attacking them with my alts, and downvoting them to make them feel like shit; then I swoop in and save the day as ESOTERICshade, and create my own Hegelian dialectic scenario in doing so."
"Notice how I try to use snark here to try and make this 19 year old sound absurd, but it only confirms to him, and others, that I REALLY slipped up in bringing up meth heads in the first place; I'm an overemotional Jew that can't help but make mistakes and show my weaknesses when the goyim makes me feel inferior. Here I am intimidating a woman I previously threatened and harassed by confronting her when she very obviously wants nothing to do with me."
"Here I am, pretending I don't think about a user much after threatening him to "be careful before you shoot your mouth off", basically proving that I am capable of the harassment mentioned above, but incapable of sticking with one narrative or manipulation tactic. Like this one where I weave a story where I allude to Voat being a CIA honeypot out to get me because of the TRUTH my meth-addled mind speaks!"
"Just like above, I like to tell users exercising their FREE SPEECH things like this:"
"But it's totally NOT a credible threat from me, goyim! TOTALLY USE YOUR FREE SPEECH just nothing offensive, cuz someone will get you, K? I have my meth heads and water heaters to deal with, so I, myself, am too busy to be a threat to you! See? I'll even tell you myself that I'm no threat to you, which makes it believable, right?"
"This comment employs tactics such as LYING about not understanding what comment another user is referencing, despite an archive being provided, the brown-nosing of ONE mod while attempting to gaslight another, and the 'u mad bro?' coupled with my telling the user to "take a break" in order to cool off, because they are TOTALLY mad, just because I said so!"
"I like to LARP as grampa ESOTERIC and warn you of things any sane person would already be aware of, but I'm TOTALLY doing it for your own good because you totally mean well, but you're also totally a meth head that SNORTS meth and needs to go to rehab!"
"I will spit-wad my accusations and talk about "how long it took" for him to write out the above comment and how I'm TOTALLY not going to read it. I want desperately to find out what sticks, but my mind doesn't work well enough to do so because I snort meth; sadly, my friends and family also snort meth, so they cannot help me beat this guy, either."
"Hey guise, I totally did a thing that was totally good for PG and you NEED me because reasons and it TOTALLY excuses my use of alts to brigade and manufacture consensus and groom users, all of which I have never apologized for because I am not sorry."
"I'm not going to read your comment - too busy snorting meth. I love meth. Meth should be legalized. Meth heads are awesome. But somehow I'm worried about CRENSCH'S state of mind."
"I like to blow smoke up users' asses, like this, where I say nice things about Crensch, but 8 months ago and even 1 hour ago I show that that I think Crensch is a fuckwit."
"When I, ESOTERIC, get caught in a lie, I claim it was a 'weak moment'. I somehow KNOW other 'users' will show up... oh, sorry, 'WELL KNOWN USERS' that mostly happened to be my alts. Did I mention I'm a Jew that loves meth heads?"