This post is put up in cooperation with Voat users to fuel pizzagate / pedogate publicity efforts, pulling together the three most useful submissions from each user. The users joined in this effort so far: @1NationUnderAGroove @abcdefg222 @anonOpenPress @DarkMath @LostandFound @pbvrocks @YingYangMom (under edit)
WIP, you are welcome to join with your top 3. Thanks if you do!
The submissions listed below are considered as the most helpful/useful for our investigations according to their authors
PERSONS AND ORGANIZATIONS
James Alefantis / Podesta brothers / Comet Ping Pong (CPP)
/v/pizzagate/1533662 background on why Comet Ping Pong was a classic Psy-Op to throw off the dogs who may have been looking for Brownstone Operations
/v/pizzagate/1504312 - Tony & Heather Podesta + JA at personal gathering for sick artist back in 04
/v/pizzagatewhatever/1656666 (James Alefantis and CPP, introduction)
/v/pizzagatewhatever/1652968 (James Alefantis and CPP)
/v/pizzagatewhatever/1656815 (Friends of CPP and Alefantis, Besta Pizza, etc)
Hillary Clinton / Clinton Foundation / White House / DEA / FBI / CIA / DNS etc
/v/pizzagate/1481112 - HRC, Frank Guistra, Clinton Foundation, Obama, DEA & the Secret service all linked to one city - Cartagena, Colombia + underage sex parties
/v/pizzagate/1517987 (Ted Gunderson Files dump)
/v/pizzagate/1832837 About FBI Agent John H. Kenoyer convicted on sexualt assault on 12 years old girl
Jeffrey Epstein / Lolita Express / British Virgin Island
/v/pizzagate/1587483 TONS of Epstein info
/v/pizzagate/1592901 Proof of Epsteins child trafficking
Pedophile Priests / Religious
/v/pizzagate/1807907 84 bishops, 824 clerics defrocked. Post about Vatican actions. 8 sources
LOCATION FOCUSED SUBMISSIONS (Could include persons / organizations as well)
Haiti
/v/pizzagate/1834034 - ICE confirmed that some children being taken from Haiti were scheduled to be given to known pedos- list of adopters approved by state dept - Huma emails
Hampstead
/v/pizzagate/1638650 (Hampstead Children)
Texas
/v/pizzagate/1652448 Marfa Texas, Cibola Ranch, Scalia
/v/pizzagate/1649154 more on Marfa, TX
Australia
/v/pizzagate/1634351 Melbourne - Ongoing Investigation - 'Coincidences/Suspicious Activity" similar to CometPingPong - Bimbo Deluxe Pizza links to Freemason Funded Child Programs - HEAP OF POTENTIAL LEADS!
/v/pizzagate/1641756 Melbourne, the reason you should archive everything before posting on here, sites used as sources have been 'edited' and lead to Dead end pages
UNCATEGORIZED (WIP)
Media related submissions
/v/pizzagate/1838110 Snopes debunking of pizzagate DEBUNKED. Fact checking post
Historical connections
/v/pizzagatewhatever/1849591 May 9th and what it all means
Other submissions
/v/pizzagatemods/1693087 "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
/v/pizzagate/1763560 using "Peadophile" as a search term in Wikileaks
/v/pizzagate/1755085 Pedophile Fantasy & Mind Control Story Website and Forum
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V____Z ago
Might want to let people know the final list is according to your discretion, and that not all posts will be accepted.
Here's my 3rd, to replace the Titus Frost post that was rejected, Alex Jones hired ex-Stratfor employee; Jones states "probably innocent" Comet Pizza may have been set up by the government
anonOpenPress ago
Heyy, I haven't rejected any posts so far. My intention is to trust the users to value their submissions, and just offer a helping hand in unsure cases. By now, I only took a short peek on each and pointed you that the one with Titus might be worth checking further / adding another source.
The login page issue and the bullet issue are important claims. As investigators, we should either represent all the existing opposite claims, or reliably source one of the claims. Titus doesn't do that, but maybe you could, finding some more and editing that post. Personally, I do find it more important than the one on Alex Jones (as you did too)
V____Z ago
I guess i'm confused then. It does sound like you are rejecting it. It seems like you wouldn't have said anything about it if i hadn't asked. I wasn't aware there were valid questions about the Titus Frost post. You also didn't tell me of the need for more proof until now, just "let's wait". All i'm asking is that you tell people up front that the submissions aren't entirely up to us, as your title implies. That you will use some of your own discretion is something that people should know.
For now let's stick with the Jones post as my 3rd. Thank you!
anonOpenPress ago
I actually wasn't about to say anything about it before you asked :)
My purpose is not to reject, but to support investigations and help them towards even better outcomes (especially when asked). I'm happy to add it as it is, but I still think it might be edited as even better. Just for example adding a line "This video presents interesting and even important claims but is not very well sourced by its author" would add to the value of your post.
So for the end, which one you prefer then as your third? Open minded.
V____Z ago
Definitely the Alex Jones post. Sorry for being such a pain.
anonOpenPress ago
No need to be sorry, I think we're both developing here :) Me with my communications, you with your media criticism. I liked discussing with you.
V____Z ago
You're cool. I'm definitely still learning :)
To be honest I am emotional about all of this. And that clouds the thinking. I'm also receiving some DMs alerting me to very valid concerns about people we look to as lead researchers (actually it's singular), and to some very real damage they are causing to real people. People are in danger from trusting too much. I'm upset about this because there's nothing i can do. So that's me being real.
anonOpenPress ago
I think DM's are a big danger zone in general, as pretty clever shilling, and spreading both right and wrong (in purpose) opinions about other users is possible via those while there's no one else to see that being done and warn about that possibility. IMO, what can't be handled in openness should always be considered at least suspicious. ps. Thanks for being real here.
V____Z ago
It's from one of the trusted Voaters.
anonOpenPress ago
You decide who's trusted by you, of course. All the best!