I’ve banned all Sane alts (while leaving the main account alone) for spamming. If Sane (or his group) wants to post on Voat, they can do so without using alts to hide behind, thus preventing their main accounts from being downvoted and thus restricted. I am done letting this group stomp all over Voat unfettered* like a spoiled toddler and pushing me to enact draconian rules to prevent them from doing so.
Don’t for a second be fooled at the motivations this group has for Voat, they seek not to help. They seek only to force censorship, drive away users, and ultimately destroy Voat while ruining Voat’s commitment to Freedom of Speech. I will not let them win.
They setup an unwinnable situation for Voat, and no matter Voat’s action, they can claim a victory.
If Voat bans them, they claim censorship. If Voat does nothing, reasonable users depart. Regardless of the action, a user subset will be infuriated, and this is entirely the purpose, divide and conquer. We all need to recognize exactly what is happening here. This isn’t about a single user, this is about an organized effort.
If you ever wondered why Reddit has so many private and obfuscated areas in code, fuzzed counters, shadow bans, etc.? It is to stop groups like this. The problem is, as you all know, once this code is implemented it can be used for both good and evil. I choose not to use the little time available on such things, and will instead ban users who engage in Amalek/ManHood101 style spamming in order to maliciously claim censorship later.
A user is free to say whatever they wish, but if they resort to using alt accounts in order to circumvent the protections we do have, these alt accounts will be banned for spamming.
I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL and v/ReportShills and moving both to @system. Both these subs were transferred to “him” and “he” has not been a good steward. What a joke. Enough of this as well.
* Screenshot taken from statistics page located at https://voat.co/statistics
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https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
NeedleStack ago
A new Sparticus/Sane alt for your purging: LORD_SPARTACUS_1488
sound_of_silence ago
this was really disappointing to see, as a new user here, it shows that on voat, goats are guilty until proven innocent.
MarchMelodies ago
Dead subs like ReportShills are effectively being created from scratch. But you're a goofy loon and wouldn't understand that.
Mick ago
Oh, what a nightmare! Thanks for the reply Fuzzy :)
@o_V_o fuzzy has replied above this comment. It doesn't sound hopeful - https://voat.co/v/announcements/1752788/8724165
o_V_o ago
Hmmm... I see.. Well, anyway...thanks for the info @FuzzyWords (you too @Mick)
Mick ago
YW :)
Haredeenee ago
no im not a 51 year old native.
8625479? ago
What's missing in the retro layout is small pics, it's not readable, titles are too long among other things
But then I guess small pics defeat retro layout
BohMoon ago
Been here for some time and the downvote is bullshit. I agree with the downvote, but you should give some explanation.
MarchMelodies ago
I get /v/TIL, but why /v/ReportShills. It is just 75 subscribers.
noobftw ago
Agreed, but you and your vigilante group are the infectious disease. I am the leukocyte.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
Perhaps it doesn't but it just strikes me that if a sperg is modding his own sub, he has a right to be a sperg. I don't really think Sane is the same as She was where she became a mod of a default acting normal, then started modding like an SJW.
Mick ago
I can't argue with that :)
Mick ago
Hecho does the ban/unban thing all the time. He does this to me about once a week. I wouldn't let it bother you too much, it's an attention thing I think.
Abelekene ago
This totally makes sense now, please let be civil and grow voat.co together.
Vvswiftvv17 ago
Honestly, I don't give a shit. I don't think this should be a system wide announcement.
Mick ago
Fair enough but 600+ upvotes shows the community disagrees with you on this particular issue.
Disappointed ago
There's a few in every woodpile.
Disappointed ago
It's just idiots with too much time on their hands. If they aren't fucking with you one way then they'll find another.
Disappointed ago
@First_Post_King created that sub. Note the two_ _ underlines in the above accounts name after First. I'm not sure it might be the same guy but First_Post_King deleted their account and this couldd be an imposter account.
megaluigi ago
There's nothing wrong with insulting and calling out Jews. Their main weakness is being outed as the very hooknosed rats they are.
8613581? ago
Eh. I dunno. I mean yeah I think almost everyone wanted him to shut up, but now it feels a little too quiet. Like it's weird when the neighbors' kids stop screaming. (realtalk I'm not an MSM [white] baby hater but most of them are over 10 and running around shrieking morning, noon, and night)
NonsenseAbounds ago
Is there anything about /v/Chicago? NoobFTW might be an alt of CluelessJoeJackson, and I've been banned, unbanned, banned again, and then unbanned by someone who isn't even a mod of /v/Chicago.
Based on everything you said in this post, I believe that someone who upholds free speech should moderate /v/Chicago (As numerous people have said, the current moderator (noobftw) bans people for things like "saying bad words" and "dissent," which is the exact opposite of free speech.
P.S. Thanks for all your work, and thanks for taking action against SaneGoatISwear. I totally agree with your action and your sentiment, and I definitely think that they were intentionally putting you in a bad position.
Kal ago
Someone tell me who are the good guys here so I know what side to be on!
oiseaulibre ago
PV is a watchdog sub... that promotes witch hunts.
Not really, they just are a part of the voat chat regulars. Mighty passionately believes in his retarded opinions and doesn't really troll. He just really passionately believes in unpopular opinions and has an aggressive way of giving his opinion. Sane...on the other hand, he he's either a massive troll or a schizo, lol. I've talked to them both for many months now and know they aren't connected and that there is no "group".
I know mighty has no agenda to damage voat, sane on the other hand I'm not sure about.
oiseaulibre ago
PV and SBBH, although separate, are very intertwined. They both pushed that mighty was sane when I know for a fact from talking to both of them that is not true. Yet, I have seen average voaters think mighty was sane because of that agenda. Was it hilarious? Absolutely. Mighty being triggered is always hilarious. The point is, you guys on both subs have the power to control, and you do. As another example, you guys were also responsible for pushing putt to make changes to chat.
oiseaulibre ago
Just saying to be warying, that's all. I've watched you guys, I see how you can control the narrative on voat with concern trolling. I don't have anything against you guys. Just telling putt to keep an eye open for you guys.
turd_pilot ago
I wish i had enough ccp to downvoat SGIS. maybe one day.
Subtenko ago
Looks like they are up to it again: voat.co/user/Puttitout_Is_Fat
Do these people have nothing better to do or is it a bot? Even if it didnt take too much time to make its still pretty dumb.
fabulousalpaca ago
I too wish I had so much free time to dedicate to creating fake accounts and break havoc and shit all over stuff that has little impact on my daily life. Smh.
Thank you for doing a good job
HarveyKlinger ago
Hey @PuttItOut how about taking the trash out of v/Chicago? It needs to happen. The mod is the alt of the mod that got kicked. Nothing has changed and it's worthless as a sub.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
I see you have a lot of support for this move. I disagree. He may be thorn in your side, but all I see is stupid easily ignored posts from my perspective. Can you give any evidence he is vote manipulating? If not let him speak. I ignore him. Why can't you? You are the law. You shouldn't shut down speech from anyone, regardless how annoying. We are adults. We can handle ourselves.
squataclops ago
Ty. You always make me proud to be part of this community
JeromeWalker ago
On the topic of this behavior, something needs to be done about the groups of users here that will mass downvote brigade accounts they dislike. For example the account HWY__395 spammed my old account name all over the site after I refused to use post in one of his brand new subverses, instead posting in an older one. After that anything I posted was immediately downvoted. I could tell when he got online because all my posts from the previous few hours would all get 2-6 downvotes within a 5 minute window. Voat needs to be doing more to discourage this type of powermod behavior before the site gets any larger.
flope_de ago
This is exactly how moderation should be done. You do not ban content. You do not ban behaviors. You ban disruptive users.
Subtenko ago
They are at it again tho. Not that it bothers me but shessh these people need some help. Why do they bother idk,lol
Haredeenee ago
let me know what RULE i'm breaking and I'll be happy to help you. :)
https://voat.co/help/useragreement
Haredeenee ago
I use an alt mainly. Use this account to trigger the thought police like yourself.
'Spirit of vote' = what YOU want voat to be
Rules of voat = what the creators of voat made it to be
I'll be following the rules. : D
Haredeenee ago
he's implying that anyone who disagrees with his opinions must just be an alt of 1 person.
Haredeenee ago
triggered?
edit: thats a yes
8598663? ago
Thank you for doing this. It was annoying as fuck.
Subtenko ago
They still doing it tho.. Its more sad than annoying
AmaleksHairyAss ago
I admire the restraint with which @PuttItOut approached this situation. I support this solution.
peacegnome ago
I'm late to the party, but would just like to say that you should really add an invite system to keep tabs on who spawns what account. This time it was easy to figure out, but at the reddit level there is nothing you can do about it.
hypercat ago
I have not seen anything that has effected me, but thank you for being vigilant in making this a happy anarchy. <3
8594834? ago
Bingo
bourbonexpert ago
@PuttItOut this is a huge improvement, but i still see him in chat, and no one goes there because he is retarded. i mentioned in ideas for voat the ability to ignore a user in chat. that would be really great, because i have had some decent convos there, then sane shows up and fags things up.
CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago
If he sees anyone having a decent conversation in chat, he immediately does everything he can to ruin it for everyone.
Al_Rubyx ago
Mfw sane goat was the Jew all along and was trying to make people who hate Jews seem totally nuts.
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Voopin__Voopin ago
@voatisforniggers i think this guy missed one.
heygeorge ago
Are you intentionally forgetting how sanei brought that on themselves by aggressively attacking each poster/mod in the 'verse? Then they are to be blamed for poking back? Get real. For what it's worth, those jabs about 1990 were obvious joke references and:
I have never made any of the comments you're alleging.
So, please, tell me again how users defending themselves against antagonizing accusations (and making light of them!) by a user/an alleged team of disrupters is not ok?
I understand you will not be able to defend this, nor was it your intention at all. You obviously only want to sow seeds of doubt by presenting a 'defense'.
acheron2012 ago
I fail to understand why @PuttItOut is smarter than every politician in the entire western world. This doesn't stand to reason. The only plausible explanation is that the system is not "broken" but rather working exactly the way THEY wish it to.
Regardless, THIS is my response to @PuttItOut actions today. I believe everyone should do the same
smokratez ago
I am still being down vote brigaded by the same accounts. I thought you wanted to do something about that. What are srs on voat? You going to do something about that? How about fph which has banned more people than sanegoat. No, because they are reddit as well?
prairie ago
Censorship of ideas is a problem. Censorship of troublemakers is not. They seek to confuse the two.
turtlesarepureevil ago
Grow up faggot.
Atko ago
Well done!
Could you also please reset /v/til css to default as the current one looks like shit on all devices.
o_V_o ago
Why can't I block /v/funny? I've been asking this for 3 days and no one has any actual answers. WTF is is the point in /v/help if no one helps?
Do I have to be a neo-nazi for you to acknowledge me?
There.. see, I'm one of you. Can get some help now?
Disappointed ago
Post it in v/voatdev. Puttitout reads there mostly.
o_V_o ago
I've tagged him and and even replied directly to his most recent comments... and nothing!
I always thought it was just the users who were retarded assholes, but maybe it's a top-down situation.
Disappointed ago
Well I've been ignored on direct comments and pings about as many as I've had replies from him so you're not alone. I think he just gets too many pings and comment replies now. But I do know he at least skims the thread titles on voatdev and this is a bug he'd want to know about.
o_V_o ago
If my problem was "being alone" this would be great news.
I don't actually expect him to fix my issue... that's why I asked about it in v/help. The first time I asked I saw that someone had already asked the same question and was told to wait a few minutes for the servers to catch up. Someone then replied to my thread with the same answer (prob just copying the reply from the other thread)... so, I decided to delete the thread and wait. 24 hours later and nothing changed. So.. I make another thread and wait another 24 hours and nothing. It's been yet another 24 hours and radio silence.
So... WHY THE FUCK is it so difficult just to get an official answer? @Atko mods /v/help... there are maybe 1-2 new threads posted there per day (the newest thread is 1.6 days old). It's not like he's being overwhelmed with questions. If he can't do his job, he needs to find people who can.. or close the fucking subverse. Not having a "help" sub would be better than having one that doesn't fucking help anyone.
Disappointed ago
Atko is retired. Try posting in v/voatdev, it's just a suggestion to try to help.
o_V_o ago
He's still a mod.... and he's still active.
Disappointed ago
I think that more just loose ends not tied up than anything. If he's asking Puttitout to make system changes to a system sub then he cant really help you with your problem.
o_V_o ago
He's the ONE AND ONLY mod of help.
???? Yes, he can. WTF? Are you just trying to be a contrarian or do you seriously not understand how this works?
He's a mod of "help". He "helps" by answering questions. He has not done that.. and the answer I did get was obviously not correct. The only thing he has to to is answer a question, not fix anything. If the problem is something that NEEDS to be fixed, he then asks @puttitout. This is pretty simple stuff.
Disappointed ago
By the way I just upvoted all your comments here to piss off the faggot downvoting us both.
Disappointed ago
He has stepped aside from the site in any official capacity and is likely only the mod of v/help because it hasn't crossed his mind to resign. Like I said a loose end not tied up. Anyway take my advice or don't, I don't want an argument about this. Good luck with it.
o_V_o ago
I was only aware of him stepping down as the head guy... I thought he said he was just going t be a normal user now. Normal users are mods for subverses. I don't recall him ever saying anything about stopping mod duties... and if that's the case, he really should have found replacements before just abandoning subs he mods.. especially v/help! @Atko
I don't either, but... if someone would just answer my question, we wouldn't need to have this conversation in the first place...
It's a pretty straight-forward question. Either, it's not possible or there's a problem. All it takes is one person with some insider info to spend 30 seconds typing out a reply... but apparently that's asking too much @PuttItOut @Atko
Mick ago
Hey there, do you still have the broken block?
o_V_o ago
Yes. 32% of my front page is "funny" links despite being blocked 3+ days ago.
Mick ago
Fuzzy says this (putts isn't around)
"He's possibly clicking and not waiting for the cache to catch up so he may click again and undo the block, that's my theorySent on:12:03 pmFrom:FuzzyWordsTell him to use that page to add /v/funny if it is not in the list, that page has a box where you can write the name of the sub you want to blockFrom:FuzzyWordsAlso ask him if he is subscribed to any subs, I have another theory"
o_V_o ago
No. I hit block once 3 days ago... and as you can see, it says "unblock" (which implies that "block" is enabled)
(24 hours after I initially blocked, I DID unblock and block again just to see if maybe it glitched out the first time even though it said "unblock"... that was 48 hours ago. Nothing has changed)
Mick ago
Does v/funny show in your blocked list for you? (not talking about it working, just if it's showing)
https://voat.co/s/Blocked@o_V_o/about/details
o_V_o ago
Yes.
In the sub itself
In my blocked list
Mick ago
OK, I'll go and talk to putts or fuzzywords and see if we can get this fixed for you.
o_V_o ago
Thanks
Mick ago
Fuzzy also says: "If he is not subscribed to any subs and is getting the default set, /v/funny may not be blocked there even if you manually block it. If that's the case it is probably a bug to report to Putts"
o_V_o ago
THAT sounds like it could be the issue... I unsubbed from everything a few months ago.
Mick ago
We've reported this to putts as a bug. It may take a few days to resolve. Let me know if it isn't fixed by Friday if you are around then.
o_V_o ago
Just an update: I tested it using "all" instead of my front page...
So, it appears that the block is working and it's exactly what fuzzy was talking about.
Mick ago
Thanks for that, I'll send your findings to fuzzy right now.
o_V_o ago
Also: (and maybe you already know this) Blocking from v/all doesn't seem to have any effect. If you block from v/all (block subverse), it switches right back on refresh... you have to go to the sub itself and block from there.
Mick ago
Hmm, blocking from all was working for me. We'll check that out too, cheers.
o_V_o ago
Has this been worked on at all? The rampant racism of whatever and funny is getting out of control. The site as a whole is becoming unusable due to these people (and they're too stupid to see the irony). Fighting with them can be fun, but it's becoming obnoxious now. So much fake bullshit on the front page, if I can't block it, there's no reason to be here. This is NOT the type of shit you just let exist... unless this place really is meant to be a honeypot. Between the racism and blatant lies, I kinda feel like anyone working on this site is either in on it, or should be extremely embarrassed.
Mick ago
@FuzzyWords is blocking subs from FP of /all going to happen?
I agree with much of what you say o_V_o - I rarely visit the frontpage of /all because of the bullshit that appears there.
Putts is all about freedom of speech. It's a very big deal to him and fair enough too. Unfortunately a side effect of this is bullshit is running rampant.
o_V_o ago
Cool. Thank you.
Mick ago
Ahhh, I'll pass that along right now.
neverobey ago
thank you! <3
Typo ago
Is this one? Puttitout_Is_Fat (not using /u/ to avoid the ping)
guinness2 ago
Nah, SaneGoat has already started creating new alts and he's got a new "free speech" sub which is 9 hours old and has 243 banned users.
First__Post_King ago
Writing a post takes longer than banning someone. Banning someone takes at most 20 seconds. If you have trouble banning one guy, then ask the other moderators of your subverse for help, it's not that difficult. There is no point in asking admins to do something so simple. Why would you need help for something so simple? Isn't Alt-Right going to fix all of the problems such as non-whites? How can you even accomplish that when you can't even ban one guy from your subverse? This reminds me of Evalion talking about getting rid of Jews while she is too afraid to even drive a car.
oiseaulibre ago
Don't you know putt is God and can do no wrong?
Heil.
Haredeenee ago
Awesome to heaar it Put
How can we report users doing this?
SaneGoatISvvear ago
Report them here: https://voat.co/v/AnonTalk/1759072
guinness2 ago
I've studied human rights philosophy and it's important to be mindful that one right can not be used to justify violating other rights.
For example, it's unreasonable for Muslims to justify murdering unbelievers in the name of religious freedom.
Similarly, it's unreasonable to claim that silencing people is a valid form of free speech... and that is precisely what SaneGoat is attempting to do when he claims his free speech takes the form of banning users and deleting their content if his feelings were hurt, or by artificially raising his posts and down-vote brigading others using an army of alts.
Hyde Park's Speakers Corner is a famous celebration of free speech where Londoners have gathered since 1872 to express themselves freely and have an opportunity to be heard by the crowd. There are some very basic and reasonable rules: everyone must have an equal opportunity to be heard, which means megaphones and horns are banned so that people can't be shouted-down or drowned-out artificially: which is a perfect simile for SaneGoat's banning and deleting content he disagrees with or that hurts his feelings and using alts to up-vote his content while down-vote brigading everyone else.
obvious-throwaway- ago
As longer as I can say nigger faggot Jew without being censored or banned, I'll keep coming here and contributing. I don't even have a problem with faggots, it's all about the freedom to speak unfettered and unteathered.
AlwaysInService ago
There is no evidence that @SaneGoatiSwear raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 against the peace and dignity of the state of Delaware and saying that @SaneGoatiSwear raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 against the peace and dignity of the state of Delaware without the evidence would be harmful to the user and the community
8589525? ago
Yep, there is no evidence that @SaneGoatiSwear and/or @noobftw raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 against the peace and dignity of the state of Delaware and saying that @SaneGoatiSwear and/or @noobftw raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 against the peace and dignity of the state of Delaware without the evidence would be harmful to the user and the community.
thatguyiam ago
Wtf you twats
8947346? ago
Just having some fun triggering some crybaby trolls.
thatguyiam ago
..not really. In case you haven't noticed ppl mostly disregard twatposters smearing without offering any points refuting claims. Twat.
8948149? ago
I said that there was no evidence that @SaneGoatiSwear and/or @noobftw raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 against the peace and dignity of the state of Delaware, and said that @SaneGoatiSwear and/or @noobftw raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 against the peace and dignity of the state of Delaware without the evidence would be harmful to the user and the community.
It's along a similar vein to the "top-ranking Navy Seal with 300 kills to his name" copypasta, except it is something that someone else on Voat came up with.
AlwaysInService ago
I can be called a shill (again) but I don't care. Thank you @PuttItOut for putting out this fire (pun intended, of course) and bringing some peace to the users. Even though he will claim censorship again, thank you for proving that Voat does stand for Freedom of Speech and thank you for not letting one person manipulate you and the userbase. Thank you.
Tallest_Skil ago
So “spam us enough times and we’ll legitimize you”. That’s what they’re taking away from this. Great job, guys; really good at doing whatever it is you planned to make this site into.
Disappointed ago
No hes the owner look above at who created it.
Disappointed ago
And the creator of that sub?
First__Post_King ago
Just block the guy. It's that simple. If you can't even do something so simple, then you are an idiot. You are a moderator, there is moderation functions such as banning. Use the tools given to you. If one guy is able to troll a dead subverse like v/Identitarian, then you should be ashamed. You have over 10 moderators, this should be easy. Don't expect @PuttItOut to spoon feed you. How can you survive in the outside world if you can't even ban one guy? You make the alt-right look pathetic.
SimonRothschild ago
Why does voat host child porn is the real question.
Goater ago
Voat doesn't host, clear definition, it's in the user policy agreement, if it's illegal under U.S law it will be taken down, if it hasn't yet then it hasn't been reported yet.
What can you do? Implement a pre-crime Voat where they somehow know what kind of content a user will post and prevent them from ever submitting? Users that do link to illegal content are banned.
The admins do their best to take down illegal content, however as a minor competitor to a much larger site, copyright and illegal content spamming is a common tactic used by the larger competitor (or its investors) to drain funds and waste time, until the minor site has to close due to lack of funding and legal battles, etc.
If you have some better way of fighting this, I'm all ears, and considering this site is hosting one of the largest online communities for investigating such activities, it's pretty strange that this is the real question for you.
In the interest of free speech we can't stop what we don't agree with like those creepy jailbait subs, but at least we can take down the illegal shit.
hairytale ago
Because you cannot identify who will be a good mod. Because you put too much on one person. I don't know. You're smart. Think of some ideas. Maybe distribute mod's responsibilities - one mod bans, another removes posts. Maybe pick modes at random and rotate and switch often between subs. Maybe add mod rating and allow users to vote. Oh wait, it will be democracy with gerrymandering and corruption. Never mind. Whatever. Keep playing with your irrevocable kings.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
behead those who waste @PuttItOut's valuable time
DickHertz ago
Ban the original as well and add a regex filter that does not allow new registrations that start with his original account.
8592810? ago
He would just weasel around it with replacement characters and typos. Keeping the original name legal makes it easier to find any new alts.
Tipman79 ago
@SaneGoatISwear
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
toobaditworks ago
I think I'll just cry some more butt thanks.
toobaditworks ago
oops. I'll be in my safe space crying.
greycloud ago
you watch. jailbait and drawn loli porn are getting rarer and rarer. when that shit goes free speech goes with it. mostly with the jailbait. thing is, when people see jailbait being posted they unconsciously realize they are in a zone where the most offensive views can be taken, where the truth can be told. but people are social animals, without those jailbait postings, they will try to conform to the group. that is why all social websites are at risk of becoming user created echo chambers. jailbait preserves free speech. people might not realize it, it may be counterintuitive. but truly unpopular ideas, that is the best thing to post to preserve free speech.
A_Salty_Scrub ago
You're free to say and do what you want but you aren't free from consequences. Stop trying to justify your scummy behaviour
greycloud ago
if I was posting pics that girls didn't want on the internet than you would have a point. i post pics of models and i post selfies. my behavior is not scummy, what you find scummy about me is that when my behavior is identical to others, i experience a different thrill. i like them for different reasons than other people like them. or i like them for the same reasons boys like them. you would excuse the boys because of their age, as if somehow age was a filter to appreciating beauty that you are supposed to grow out of.
guinness2 ago
Raping little children isn't scummy behavior: it's a violation of basic human rights.
guinness2 ago
You are a notorious Voat pedophile: if you care so deeply about jail-bait and pictures of children being hurt... they why don't you do something about it.
Nobody is silencing you: you and your Muslim friends are free to be intolerably disguising and promote your fantasies about hurting little children as much as you like, providing you don't actually post illegal content.
greycloud ago
I post now and again. and I also stand for free speech. but more and more those of us who care about free speech are going the way of the birds. I am not claiming that voat the site is censoring. I am claiming that the community that has come to voat over the last few years has brought with it an attitude of pro-censorship and moralist authoritarians. before pizzagate came around you didn't see half the harassment of the subs I am talking about and you saw more than 3 times the posters. we both have been around long enough to know that to be true.
guinness2 ago
Bullshit!
Voat is a free speech forum and if you are a piece of useless shit if you are too timid to express yourself freely.
If you don't like what is being said then make yourself heard... and if your opinion is that of a fucked-up pedo that gets turgid when little children are hurt, then you should expect decent people to feel rightfully disgusted... however a lack of pedophilia on Voat is not a failure of free speech.
greycloud ago
I don't like it when children get hurt. I like it when they smile and look pretty. a simple peruse of anything I have ever submitted or encouraged can show that. I like it when people (including children) are happy. there is a false narrative that some things that make children happy, instead hurt them. that narrative is rampant on voat. but look at the diversity of speech on voat and think about the timeline of things turning more and more into an echo chamber where everything is a repeat of the same message. that has been happening very consistently with the reduction of jailbait posts.
it isn't directly linked with jailbait. other things that are unpopular could easily fill the role. but the role is something unpopular being said that is tolerated enough to show other people that it is ok to post an intolerable thought.
honestly at this point I don't care much. you may have noticed I haven't been on voat near as much lately. I'm like a lot of other people, I have moved on. there are better sites out there if you want to be able to say damn near anything and not have an echo chamber bitch, moan, and threaten you over it.
guinness2 ago
Unfortunately you are dangerously incapable to differentiating between the two.
Also, fuck you, you piece of human garbage.
Tipman79 ago
NO, dude... I made that same ultimatum before... you don't want to know....
ginx2666 ago
Let me guess... she fucked off and that was the last time you wrote to an internet woman?
WeekendBaker ago
Is this like gender swapped rule 34 of the god emperor?
Tipman79 ago
I... I mean.. Well.. I just can't express my feelings here....
Putt, if you are ever in the Ottawa area, drinks are on me!
hairytale ago
So many righteous people in one place - wait for censorship. Everybody has "block" button. Why this doesn't work for you? Shills will manipulate upvotes/downvotes? Let's remove the +/- buttons, who cares about those numbers? Probably even nicknames are not necessary - generate random ID on every login. There are other ways to nourish the ego of the user (maybe achievements, lol).
Rotteuxx ago
Think of the wave of TIL posts as a huge release from many community members who've been dealing with SaneGoat Inc for months now. It'll pass
In the meantime if it irritates you, consider exploring smaller subs to see what's in the basement. There are many, most need more active members.
If it's truly your first Voat account, there's a lot you've missed and it could be hard to understand the admins course of action. As an official top 10 capped, logged & archived shill I can assure you Putt was very level headed about his decision.
8587287? ago
Ah, so this is why @SaneGoatiSwear suddenly decided to make a new post calling me a shill on v/ReportAllShills (a subverse made 4 hours ago, or about an hour after this announcement): because the trolls and shills have been cleansed from their perches, and the website has been returned to the users.
Thank you, @Atko and @PuttItOut, for helping to ensure there remains a place for free speech on the Internet.
Long live a free Voat!
guinness2 ago
TIL: SaneGoatiSwear's new "free speech" sub was created 9 hours ago and already has 243 banned users!
8590871? ago
And since that subverse is so tiny and worthless, it won't matter once we get some Designer moderators to improve the CSS on the two subverses he hijacked. He can go ahead and be the next HenryCorp for all I care.
Rotteuxx ago
So did I, doubts about his resolve arose a few weeks back & I had been on the fence about staying on as an active goat... What was I thinking, sometimes a bit more patience is all that's required.
The road ahead will always be bumpy but I have a lot more confidence in the driver now, makes for a more comfy ride.
doginventer ago
Cheers Putt
I certainly don't envy your position dealing with such a difficult situation here. It does seem to me that 'sane' was expertly causing problems wherever and however he could whilst maintaining, as much as possible, a plausible cover
Such a shame 'he/they' couldn't put all that autism to better use, the worth of the good comments and contributions always wiped out by the threats and the shill nonsense
In this case, and from my limited perspective of the scenario I really don't see what else you could have done to protect the free speech and general health of the site.
So thanks yet again for all your work <3
DickHertz ago
About time this mental case was dealt with.
toobaditworks ago
An empress is a female so I figured...
PassingShip ago
What?
toobaditworks ago
She said "Sane deleted my TIL post about cumfart babies and i consider that censorship".
PassingShip ago
Thank you.
What are cumfart babies?
toobaditworks ago
I'll get back to you on that one.
brandon816 ago
@PuttItOut - Can you please clear the banlists for v/TIL and v/ReportShills while you are at it? @system subs shouldn't have banlists, especially permanent ones put in place by removed mods.
bdmthrfkr ago
Cancer needs a sharp knife.
Thanks Putt, I was getting a bit sick of their shenanigans.
Diogenes_The_Cynic ago
Thank you. Tired of hit stupid shit at v/til.
HarveyHarveyJones ago
(((Puttitout Media Silent)))
HarveyHarveyJones ago
(((Puttitout))) MEDIA SILENT
Impulsive ago
Thank you @PuttItOut
HarveyHarveyJones ago
Too true. You know how many comments i had to scroll through to find this one? Almost all of then had 6 upvoats with 2 downvoats.... all brown nosing and not even adding a bit of anything to anything.
Reddit_traitor ago
speaking of pullin mods of subs and making them system /v/chicago could be good system sub.
8586177? ago
Great work, Putt, and thank you.
jmtullock2 ago
@Puttitout is there a processing for reclaiming closed accounts?
kcamstar ago
Thanks... my first post on Voat was banned there by him.
kcamstar ago
Eventually this will become a losing battle... you will need either teams of people cleaning up the mess or some of the automated process to combat destructive spam.
ExpertShitposter ago
LoL, what a bitch....still, clearly more disruption on purpose. Clearly does not care about his main account and is paid to do this. Time to lay down the ban hammer on the main account would you not agree?
Sorry about the false alarm @puttitout
Then again...also not really a false alarm, you should probably finish this putt.
8586050? ago
the raw stuff best fits in those subverses. posting pepe in /v/thedonald and most non gore memes in /v/whatever seems ok (as in not down voated into oblivion.
heygeorge ago
I tried multiple times. I seemingly set him off by asking direct questions which he did not want to answer. This landed me a spot on the enemies list.
ExpertShitposter ago
wi neva forget, wi neva forget
wi are trollonimus
Techius ago
Now ban @kevdude and his alts.
Mickgoestojail ago
https://voat.co/v/techiusalts
HarveyHarveyJones ago
Wait what?
HeavyBeefCurtain ago
Oh... I thought Sane had autism so I didn't actually take him seriously.
Faustian ago
Maybe don't have subverse requests as first come first serve. Let us voat the mods in and out, especially for system subs. Awesome decision on taking him off TIL. Look forward to posting there now.
sgx191316 ago
Because he outright said as much. Here he is saying he's going to make alts, and here he is using them immediately afterwards to do exactly what he said he'd use them for.
DoomMantia ago
THANK YOU BASED PUTT
Here are another two alts to ban:
https://voat.co/user/SaneGoatiSwear6666
https://voat.co/user/SaneGoatiSwear6667
blipblipbeep ago
Hear hear.
No action seems right in this senario, although action needed to be taken...
You did the right thing @PuttItOut
All the best,
peace...
ExpertShitposter ago
Shut up or i will get HPOP to rape you.
ExpertShitposter ago
Thank you for putting your foot down regarding these issues. A lot of us have been disappointed and demoralized after the latest explosion of spam since no action was taken a few days ago. I am also glad that you know that this isn't an "eccentric" user, but a group trying to shut us down. And you should know that the whole community equipped with IQ is behind you 100% and fully aware that this has nothing to do with the beginning of censorship but simply removal of a paid agitator.
You said that you don't want to invest time into "star-force defense code", but ban manually, and that's ok but just be aware that this isn't over not even with this group, on top of future groups that will surely be arriving as the user base increases.
For this reason you should feel free to remove the original sane goat account, since "he" will cause trouble again and is simply not a real user. All his earlier participation was for the soul purpose of building up CCP before he knew how to make upvote bots.
He has already spammed more crap with his main account and somehow started a sanegoatiswear1 alt that has already banned us all from TIL again! https://voat.co/v/TlL/modlog/banned
On top of that he deleted ALL posts ever made to TIL.
Ps, im sure @kevdude as well as many others are dying to know if there will be any action taken regarding the remaining cancer mods siting in v/chicago, v/canada etc.
ExpertShitposter ago
@PuttItOut pinging you just to make sure i get your attention my comment above. ↑↑↑
He has already somehow started a sanegoatiswear1 alt that has banned us all from TIL again AND deleted ALL posts ever made to TIL.
Probably time for the full purge as he obviously isn't a real user but a paid agitator with no fear or care for his main account. He has many others anyway, believe me.
8588662? ago
disable custom CCS, that sub only has 3 subscribers.
The sidebar is deceptive:
8589659? ago
That'd be kind of cute if it wasn't pure faggotry. Dude's made out of autism or something.
8585557? ago
Praise Kek! the hammer has fallen!
mamwad ago
I just created /v/Butts4Putts in honor of this momentous occasion. I hope you're an ass man, Putts.
badneighbor ago
Hell yeah, batman. Hell yeah.
Fyrix ago
Thanks as always Putt, appreciate the explanation and for addressing a difficult situation well.
Eastupward ago
What a day.
Chiefpacman ago
Has he came too many times or is there any Put cock left to suck?
/s
I'm just saying. Admin worship gets gross.
Atarian ago
Imma just leave this here.
noobftw ago
Oh we allow all sorts of talk on food, derivatives trading, street fests, architecture, comedy, sports, etc. etc.
Tetromino ago
What about famous gangsters?
DyingEurope ago
I love this drama. Sane is a gift that just keeps giving.
So much popcorn.
blipblipbeep ago
Lol, preping Kodi. Popcorns popping, about to take my seat in-front of the idiot box. Good times.
peace...
VoatIsForNiggers ago
Niggers
ahab_with_piggyback ago
Putt... you son of a bitch, you did it! I'm actually smiling at the way you handled it and worded that. Continue being awesome you glorious bastard.
junesunflower ago
Saying users are free to say whatever they wish is extremely disingenuous.
First, A user with negative comment karma cannot post more then 10 comments a day. And their submissions are limited. Your system code has created an echo chamber where unpopular speech can be throttled by the hive mind. Merely disagreeing with people creates systematized censorship. Whereas the typical Trumpette spouting off the hive-mind narrative can post as freely as they like.
Second, there are rules all over in various subs that limit what individuals can post and say there. And there is zero guidance from Voat as to what the limits of moderation powers are.
heygeorge ago
How many more than 10 posts do you absolutely need to make in a day in order to have free speech?
guinness2 ago
User /u/junesunflower seems to have at least 5 other alts who are all Shareblue shills (a.k.a Correct The Record):
/u/AugustOceanBreeze
/u/MayBouquet
/u/SeptemberVirgin
/u/JulyMoonbeam
/u/OctoberDew
Don't worry, he can post much more than 10 posts a day with all of his alts, but his real displeasure it he can't "earn" much cash as a paid whore of the billionaire globalist elite.
You can keep track of these Shareblue shills at /v/ReportShareblue
heygeorge ago
Thanks, G. I was aware of these alter-egos. But I always like to extend people the opportunity to act like a human being. It's on my list of many faults.
guinness2 ago
It's my pleasure.
Tallest_Skil ago
Infinity. Either go read the definition of ‘freedom of expression’ or line yourself up against the wall for us, please.
heygeorge ago
Lol! How often have you used more than ten comments in a day? Certainly not more than one submission in a day (or ever!). I noticed you are also a serial downvoter... The type who whines about the restrictions on yuh free speech because you can't vote down everyone or thing you disagree with.
Mmmhmm... "Us." Line up on the wall? What? You want to play dodgeball? I assume by 'us' you mean you already have a team together.
Tallest_Skil ago
Not an argument.
Not relevant.
You noticed nothing.
Because it’s a violation of human rights.
Truth is not a matter of disagreement. Fuck off, kid.
heygeorge ago
Lol! I see. Unable or unwilling to discuss, you must resort to nitpicking and name calling. What is the point of your free speech crusade if you choose to use yours to stifle discussion?
Tallest_Skil ago
Not very well, it seems.
Explicitly discussing.
Prove it.
I call a spade a spade. I call a retard a retard. You’re a retard. “Insult” implies incorrectness.
Because your strawman isn’t reflective of reality? Probably that. Fuck off, kid.
heygeorge ago
You seem better suited to Reddit. They tend to admire signaling more than discussion.
Thanks for playing!
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for shitposting. When you have an actual reply, feel free to post it, retard.
junesunflower ago
So then we can make that a 10-comment limit for everyone?
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Because some of us have interesting things to say.
junesunflower ago
Not really. You're all just circle-jerking yourself about how great Trump is, and how bad the brown people are.
8589741? ago
We'll stop the circle-jerking when Trump starts making lots of bad decisions and "the brown people" stop killing everyone in their name of their pedophile-created warmongering ideology.
heygeorge ago
The circlejerk is real, granted. But that is part of a community. This will continue and possibly amplify as 'undesirables' are silenced and/or removed from Reddit.
Personally, I don't like how hastily downvotes are given in v/politics. But this is a normal reaction to often shit content.
You have managed to make a name for yourself here, and you make posts and comments daily. Maybe your account is limited, but that could be remedied by posting quality content to other 'verses that isn't politically charged. That choice is yours. You haven't been shadowbanned or otherwise silenced. There is something to be said for that.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Again why do you prove you have nothing interesting to say?
Ywis ago
Did the Jews make water wet too?
Turnip_Time ago
Yes, if the Bible is to be believed.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. -Genesis 1:1 Which God? Yahweh, the Jew god.
Volcris ago
They made the ocean salty when they cried about how cheap fresh water was.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
YES.
Derpfroot ago
I've never directed a message at you before, but since you've done something so wonderful, I would like my first to be a "thank you." So thank you. That asshole is out of control.
JunOS ago
Thank you. That shit was getting old - fast. Much appreciated!
cynicaloldfart ago
Has anyone else noticed the majority of comments have 1 dv? Wonder who that could be?
MrPim ago
Not necessarily. If its a group they could all be working out of the same building or at least the same town. Whereas if I make SaneGoat44000000 itll have my local IP block and not theirs.
repoman ago
How about a system whereby people can report degenerate scumbags and once the same account has gotten say 10 scumbag reports, it goes to a trusted moderator (as decided by you) who can review the evidence to decide & implement a sitewide ban?
In addition, keep a log of scumbag reports filed by each user with the count and percentage of reports that are upheld. That way the moderators will easily know which users are legit reporters and which are trying to spam the report system to ban legit users? That way those who are gaming the system to get legit users banned may find themselves facing the scumbag banhammer!
greycloud ago
I think you just broke the only rule that I would consider to be degenerate enough of an idea to censor, and that is the idea to censor bad ideas in the first place. you are worse than typical degenerate scum.
uvulectomy ago
Goddamnit Putt, we're eventually gonna get tired of all this winning...
Just kidding. Keep being fucking awesome, and @SaneGoatISwear can suck @HenryCorp's dick all the way back to Plebbit!
Artofchoke ago
You're doing right, Sir.
MrPim ago
Putts back end tools can see more than we. He might miss a few, but he'll catch most. It takes a minute to switch your VPN around, so mostly sane wouldnt bother and leave tracks.
Ive already seen a SaneGoat alt made by someone else posting to a different thread.
Zinnsee ago
Good job thanks
individualin1984 ago
Thank you for listening. I felt some times i was a voice in the wilderness on sanegoat.
Celestial_teapot ago
And look. I'm still here. At least people will stop accusing me of being a Sane alt now.
6double5321 ago
That's exactly what sane would say! ;)
Celestial_teapot ago
Oh no. Could I be a sane alt and not know it?
Fahrvergnaked ago
I think we may ALL be sane alts and nobody knows it.
SJWsRuinedIt ago
Downvoats to posts like that only suggest that there is truth to it that people wish to hide. Those cabals have been the shame of Voat forever now but most people wish to ignore the problem and let it fester.
Hoonsuit ago
Thank you kind sir. I appreciate all the fine work you're doing here.
throw57584 ago
Should we all spam his inbox?
MrPim ago
No. And no need. He'll make the SaneGoat main unusable quickly. Then switch to a new alt and start over. But if he uses that for the same purpose and rhetoric itll get shit on quickly as well.
throw57584 ago
You a pussy
MrPim ago
No. I have no need to harass anyone, not even Sane. And like i said, its unneeded. He'll come to you in threads. Untill his acct cant.
MrPim ago
So is reportshills ban list.
ToTheMoonAlice ago
"I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL and v/ReportShills and moving both to @system. "
Can I have your babies?
BRB... checking eBay for a uterus.
SeanBox ago
BanHammer!!!
ExpertShitposter ago
HHeeeeeeeeellll yeeeeeaaa.
stretched_girl ago
Thank you, @Puttitout. You've made my very bleak week feel a little brighter.
OneTrueCube ago
I mean,
Don't the all-powerful shadow government have better things to do?
ExpertShitposter ago
JIDF has plenty of members and plenty of time, while we are the fastest growing online group with strong anti Semitic narrative.
OneTrueCube ago
"narrative"?
Be careful how you approach this stuff man, it's supposed to be about free speech and the truth, not pushing any one particular set of ideals.
eagleshigh ago
Found the heeb.
Redditsdead ago
Yeah, i dont give 2 fucks about Jews. There's powerful people of every persuasion who are trying to control the common man. Jews are just easy targets.
Tallest_Skil ago
Truth is inherently antisemitic.
ExpertShitposter ago
Its just a word, Its how everybody calls it. What i mean is, we regularly say "jews are responsible for most problems in the world and should be gassed to the last man out of self defense" and everybody agrees with upvotes.
Essentially, we regularly call for genocide of jews and most people agree about it. At least jokingly.
8586913? ago
Speak for yourself.
Just because I think you ought to be free to say stupid things doesn't mean I automatically agree with them.
Voopin__Voopin ago
....must.....virtuesignal......not.....antisemitic......AHHHHHHHHHH, i feel better.
just saying stupid things, dont mind me ;)
ExpertShitposter ago
Point I'm trying to make is that there is more than enough anti-semetism to make JIDF interested in monitoring the website 24/7.
OneTrueCube ago
The only point I wanna make is you use the word "everybody" - and that would mean any anti-Semitic comment would be getting thousands upon thousands of upvotes.
There's a lot of people, myself included, who are fine with people making those claims but don't support the claims themselves.
ExpertShitposter ago
Point I'm trying to make is that there is more than enough anti-semetism to make JIDF interested in monitoring the website 24/7
Son_Of_Hate ago
When you consider how influential a small group of people can be, and how powerful free speech is, no, they really don't have a higher priority.
One group used their free speech to talk about how funny frogs were, and now Donald Trump is the first time-traveling president.
SJWsRuinedIt ago
What about the "Protect"Voat (aka SRS) and SDBH/SBBH? They were always 1000x worse in their tactics and goals.
SeanBox ago
YAAAAAY!!!! You da man @puttitout. Thx for handling this. We all saw it go down and regardless whatever he comes back bitching about later you did the right thing.
Troll ago
@PuttItOut
There are many groups vying for power over Voat, many of them much more subtle in tactics and approach than Sane. For the most part I ignored him because at first he seemed to be just a single guy with schizophrenia, and then they started operating in the open. But as you were taking action against him and his alts (or their alts) many other subversive factors are already on the frontpage, reposting old shit from Reddit, moving the "narrative" one nudge at the time, shaping the way how an isolated group such as Voat thinks etc. Make no mistake. This will continue, it's their job to subvert your site and control everything, that's what you've been paying your taxes for.
The only way to successfully combat this is to completely purge ALL dormant accounts that became suddenly active right before the elections of Nov. the 8th. It's not that hard to identify such accounts. However, you're not going to do that, and therefore you better prepare for the war of attrition. I'd purge them all for starters. Good luck, you're gonna fucking need it.
JeromeWalker ago
I've noticed there are already fucking "powermods" here the same as reddit. I made the mistake of posting on the wrong subverse when i joined and one apparently well liked poweruser here that mods multiple subverses told me I needed to use his sub. When i refused he started spamming my account all over the site spreading lies about me and any post or comment I made received a couple downvotes within seconds. I even made a subverse hidden from all and would post in it from time to time and would be like -6 on a comment I made in it that supposedly no one would see.
PuttItOut ago
You make good points. We can't solve everything at once, but we can make steps in the right direction.
I actually like the premise of this idea. I hate the thought of accounts being created for future use by malicious groups.
I have an even better idea though (two birds, one change) - and will make a post about it soon and get peoples feedback.
o_V_o ago
WTF is the point in the help subverse if no one provides any help?
72 hours ago I asked nicely why I can't block v/funny and I'm still waiting for answer... except now fucking done being nice about it. WTF? If you can't block subverses, DON'T FUCKING GIVE US THE FUCKING OPTION.
Subtenko ago
beta stuff i guess
oiseaulibre ago
Be warying of SBBH and PV...
Troll ago
A step in the right direction would be making a rule against subverse creation in bad faith, meaning that no deceptive subs should be allowed to exist, operate and gather dishonest and malicious dipshits from all over the globe.
What @Atko failed to understand is that The Freedom Of Speech stops where deception, manipulation and political agenda begin. Remember that whole HenryCorp bullshit? Yeah, a faggot made a shitload of deceptive subs in order to push some shitty gun control narrative, how guns are bad and shit like that. All of that would be stopped in its path by understanding that you're dealing with a bad actor from some private and/or government agency hell bent on controlling what people think online. Deceptive sub? Ban it, ban the mod. End of story. No tolerance.
Remember the whole Reddit Jailbait shit? Another way of subverting a huge community. Nothing in that sub ever posted was illegal in any way shape or form. Nothing. Underaged whores posing in their bikinis, big fucking deal. You can see that on every public beach north of Saudi Arabia. You can find that shit all over Instagram, but Anderson Cooper had to paint it as a pedophile conspiracy. In the light of pizzagate and the revelations made, now we know that bigwigs operate by attacking their opposition by accusing them of the wrongdoing they themselves indulge. If it's not illegal in the US and laws in developed countries, it should not be banned from Voat either.
8583872? ago
what in the fuck is wrong with these assholes? Seriously, grow up, get a life, or just fucking kill yourself
phenomenaldouche ago
Yeah! Go get 'em, Putt.
Thanks for this, the place was getting spammed to heck and back by his alts.
New_years_day ago
Fuck yes, It was a controlled effort to do exactly what you said. Discredit Voat and the freedom of speech we all enjoy here.
Fuck anyone that tries to divide us with these CIA/Psyop level tactics.
@PuttItOut Thank you for the transparency, this post alone means more than the actions ever will.
VicariousJambi ago
Holy fuck based admin.
IAmNotGod ago
@PuttItOut Thanks for making voat free speech again.
guinness2 ago
Agreed: SaneGoat's argument that his free speech takes the form of silencing others is retarded.
MCVoat ago
THANK YOU BASED PUTT
WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING!!
Rotteuxx ago
Don't worry boss, we're keeping an eye out for their next organized efforts !
bikergang_accountant ago
I guess I'm pretty blase about both sides. There is no need to enact draconian rules because of them. They are not ruining voat (while they mean to). We are doing fine. They really are a small annoyance.
On the other hand banning them is completely justifiable. It just isn't critical. I coined the phrase identity spamming back when it was Amalek. I'm pretty sure we all agreed then that is bannable.
Basically putt I wouldn't loose any sleep over it. Focus on features. We are doing fine with the sanes. If piece of mind helps you focus on the long term then you should have some.
JoeKerr ago
By doing this, you have destroyed the very thing you claim to uphold. SAD.
guinness2 ago
Incorrect.
Banning and deleting content because it hurt his feelings and down-vote brigading other opinions is not a valid form of free speech.
Silencing others is not a valid expression of free speech in the same way that bombing sporting events is not a valid form of religious freedom either.
JoeKerr ago
SAD
guinness2 ago
Sad how?
Do you honestly believe that silencing others by banning users and deleting their content and down-vote brigading is a valid form of free speech?
Do you also believe that religious freedom grants Muslims the rights to murder unbelievers?
JoeKerr ago
guinness2 ago
I'd rather you answered my question rather than thank me and waste my time.
Slayfire122 ago
Wrong
JoeKerr ago
SAD
Salicaz ago
Rushes straight to the bottom of the page to see Sane spazzing the fuck out. Was not disappointed.
sheepsexplode ago
Seconded please make v/Canada a @system sub.
Violentlight ago
Don't think country subs should be system subs.
Rimbo ago
v/Canada needs desperate help. Our government is currently enabling blasphemy laws and the subverse is litterally just as bad. @PuttItOut @system
Violentlight ago
I'm Canadian. I understand the issues that are happening. But doesn't seem like an issue for system. I don't care enough to make a sub. But if you do care enough, make a sub. Don't need big brother stepping in for everything.
Chiefpacman ago
Haer haer.
Isnt that the point of this website.
Rimbo ago
I wish there was a way for subs to vote out mods and vote in new ones.
8607440? ago
The only issue with democratic control of a sub is that it's real easy to stuff the ballot box. Hell, look at all the worthless Sane alts.
8583672? ago
Thank you, you kick ass.
Grifter42 ago
What are you going to do about the spammers that aren't Sanegoat? Every day there are more and more of them.
Also, what are you going to do about people who buy upvotes? There was that guy who got to the front page using an obviously brigaded post to sell shitty sunglasses.
I'm not too worried about the Sanegoat situation, to be honest.
Still, there are bigger and more problematic issues beginning to arise on Voat, like the rise of power-users. We've got a bunch of people who just farm upvotes until they can downvote, and they use those accounts to slingshot their posts to the front page, and to downvote anyone who calls them out on it.
There's also the /v/chicago situation, in which we have a mod who freely admits to not giving a shit about free-speech.
Owlchemy ago
Putt and Cynabuns have been slowly but surely dealing with spammers at v/ReportSpammers. Anyone can post there, so if you see it, report it. I, and many others do. Domains of spammers and often spammers themselves are being dealt with.
Grifter42 ago
I'm highly suspicious of /v/cheers.
Owlchemy ago
As far as what. I don't post there anymore, but used to.
Grifter42 ago
Take a close look at it.
It's an upvote farm used by certain people to make their accounts look credible.
Owlchemy ago
Not really. People just like music, and it's up voted. Rarely does any one song get more than five or six up votes. You can think what ya want, but I've never seen any manipulation, and I posted there a lot. You get the same general upvote/downvote at v/music, or any of the popular music subs I've posted to. Now there are people that post exclusively in there, but that's their thing. If a place you enjoy posting to and you get maybe six upvotes for a post is an 'upvote farm' ... okay then ... but hey, many subs are like that with a subscription base that enjoys the subject and upvotes new content. I can do the same by posting good content to my v/gunsreallyarecool site ... but not because I'm looking for up votes. In fact, who really gives a shit about fake internet points anyway unless someones brigading or running bots, or such. Now that does happen, but not in that sub.
sheepsexplode ago
Thank you, Thank you! You are the MAN or ATACK HELICOPTER.
Please remember that v/Canada needs help. We have a mod censoring all that is said. Could we make it a @system sub as well please!
Sorry you have to deal with this bullshit.
Groomzilla ago
LOL, as long as these Albanians pay their server costs and let me say nigger on their website; HE WILL NOT DIVIDE AND CONQUER US.
armday2day ago
Can we put this on flag?
SaneGoatiSwear1 ago
The new sheriff is finally in town!
middle_path ago
Great decision, Putt! I know it's not the same, but I had to ban my third user from v/JustGrowIt a few days ago. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but a happy community is more important to me than a few users spreading negativity and shitting all over my sub.
Same with sane. He was a menace for too long. I know some people will get upset about this decision as going against freedom of speech, but I trust you.
Much love.
Fambida ago
Whoa, what the hell do you even do to deserve banning from a sub dedicated to growing plants? Just random vandalism/autistic screeching?
middle_path ago
The most recent ban was due to a user commenting in a post I made about planting some stuff. He told me everything I planted was dumb because I could just buy it all cheaper in the store, and I'm not growing for survival.
I warned him because he was a particular asshole and his reply to that comment cemented the ban. If you want to read his comment find the thread "I just planted some junk" I made on Sunday.
I should make a general rule, but I've had very few issues and hate banning people.
oftotc ago
This will be their next target :-(
Bill_Murrays_Sandals ago
Good!
digitalentity1497 ago
Thank you so much for defending Voat.
MinorLeakage ago
I really like what you've written here Putts. You really should take the time to drop us a paragraph or two once in a while and let us know what you're thinking.
I can't speak for others, but I know that I get a little paranoid when we haven't heard from you in a while. Not sure if you've noticed, but most of us Goats have some trust issues.
Thanks for all you do. The platform you provide here is really unique, and extremely important in these times of censorship we seem to live in. I really hope you know that. You are making a profound difference, while most of us just blow hot air.
Ywis ago
The fact that only the alts are banned is a good indicator that things are okay here.
slevin_kelevra ago
Justice servevd, thanks @puttitout
wahala ago
@PuttItOut we know you had a difficult decision to make, it's been made, and you've been transparent about it. That's about all we can ask so thank you.
I'm curious if anything will be done in regard to the related junk posts that have spawned because of the Sane alts (like this 'never forget 1990' crap I'm responding to here), or if anything needs to be done. Frankly, browsing 'new' posts has sucked this last week or so because of Sane trolls, not Sane-alts. Sane-trolls are as annoying and as spammy as Sane's-alt crap, if not more.
If I were to guess, it will just be a 'wait and see' if they stop trolling with a reduction in Sane-alt posts. The brigading & trolling of Sane-alts has been as much of a concern of mine as the Sane-alts themselves, so it's something to keep in mind as you move forward.
Thanks again for putting up with the the shit we don't want to.
ExpertShitposter ago
So kill sane and it all goes away. Its like the terrorist attack problem. How do we deal with it? Kill the agitators, all sandniggers that is, and it all goes away.
8589713? ago
Technically, killing the agitators would require killing the people in the shadow government and "intelligence communities" who were running campaigns to create the international agitators in the first place.
If you just leave them alone in there without any leaders and surrounded by strong armies at the borders with non-Muslim nations, they will eventually either self-destruct or rebuild themselves with more reasoning thanks to reformers and the Internet teaching them about just how messed up Islam is compared to the rest of the world.
Right now, the only reason that they are exploding in population size is because the most fanatical Muslim regimes with goals of world conquering were given power several decades ago by the CIA and the corrupt members of our military and government. Replace the shadow government with decent people, have the US and other civilized countries start promoting/protecting Islamic reformers (including via legitimate uses of the "refugee from political persecution" status they're trying to use in favor of the Sharia welfare crowds) rather than calling them "Islamophobic" or "not representatives of Islam", and the reproduction amounts will reset much closer to what they are elsewhere in the world as the community modernizes socially as much as it has modernized technologically (and doesn't feel a need to produce more people for a future and continuing war).
Once the culture war is won, then it is just a matter of mopping up the stray agitators who are still trying to fight to spread their warmongering ideology worldwide, and we already know how easy that can be if you don't actually tell them well in advance of what you're planning on doing (AKA "so easy that random people on an online imageboard with one 'training video' can find the exact location of the camp sites").
illDecree ago
Thank you SOO MUCH Putt!!!
FuckSaneGoatISwear ago
FUCK SaneGoatISwear!
Firevine ago
Yep. I was saying that a few months ago. "BUT MAH FREEZE PEACH" while using those tools to silence and drown out others. Fuck off with that garbage.
Thanks, Putt. Now fix it to where I can downvoat spam again.
wuzizname ago
Keep on keeping on, PIO!
lxbb ago
Totally fair, leaving the original account is a class act. Just weeding out the bad behaviour.
Helios-Apollo ago
About damn time.
daskapitalist ago
Sane got BTFO.
Mick ago
Three cheers for you!
Mumbleberry ago
Woohoo!
Wiseowl623 ago
You are awesome.!!
Slab_SquatThrust ago
Thank you!
tanukihat ago
JEW MEDIA SILENT
8583335? ago
He and his IP need permabanning for doxxing.
throw57584 ago
Calling someone by their real name in a public place is completely legal though and would be a form of censorship if stopped.
8584293? ago
Shut up sane.
throw57584 ago
Shut up pedophile.
8584651? ago
Stop projecting, sanegoat. Btw, my day is better than yours.😂
throw57584 ago
Your History says your life is much worse overall.
8584698? ago
Lol, my life is great.
throw57584 ago
Why did you downvote all my shit nigger? Thought you had a great life and you just sit on all day talking bad about this troll.
8584960? ago
I'm at the salon under a lamp. Nothing but time..
throw57584 ago
The funny thing is you concern troll as much as sanegoat and hate him so much.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
trying to (falsely) accuse everyone of being "as bad as you" is still technically admitting you know what you're doing is wrong
throw57584 ago
Cool, go live it then.
heretolearn ago
thanks for everything you're doing.
VIP740 ago
This is reasonable.
oddjob ago
Congrats to SaneGoat for placing 1st through 5th on most downvoated comments
blipblipbeep ago
Lol, everyone's a winner.
peace...
PlasmaDistortion ago
You are a rock star and I am always amazed at how well you handle things like this. Thank you!
Stavon ago
Don't worry, we can tell and we stand with you.
Puttitout_Is_Fat ago
I believe in the freedom of speech. I am against censorship. This proves that voat is pro-censorship.
If you fail to see that, then you are a failure.
effusive_ermine ago
SGS (and others like them) is a difficult problem. That level of outward hostility does discourage participation.
Owlchemy ago
Good for you, Putt! And absolutely agree. I've watched as this group has harassed too many good users off of Voat and anything that needs to be done is appreciated. Personally, I don't give a crap if they harass me for saying so. I'm sick and tired, as are so many, of the childish antics which are clearly intended, as you point out, to slowly destroy Voat, simply for the entertainment of those I have personally named, the 'Voat Village Idiots'. They have no intention of working to make Voat better, but simply to destroy it. Anything done to give them a good spanking is more than fine with me. And I doubt many would find fault.
effusive_ermine ago
Is that really necessary? I mean they don't value Voat and its ideals, that's true, but name calling doesn't fix anything as far as I can tell. The people you're referring to love being reacted against because it makes them feel powerful, so if anything it rewards their behavior.
EDIT: for example
bluedeath ago
Have you thought about not posting? It's something to consider. Do it for Science.
8587297? ago
Name calling solves everything
Nigger Faggot
BreesusLovesYou ago
On a site that's known for welcoming new members by calling them "nigger faggot jews" just to show that its userbase doesn't like censorship or the easily offended "village idiot" is the line?
effusive_ermine ago
This line ought to be featured at the top of the site next to the logo.
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
Shut the fuck up, pussy.
EDIT: LIBERAL FAGGOT DETECTED
effusive_ermine ago
I'm curious, did your mother eat the placenta after you were born? Oh wait, did you even know your mother?
GoogleStoleMyBike ago
I thought you were my mommy with the way you like to tell me what to say. Faggot.
Owlchemy ago
But I like the term. It's appropriate - LOL. Good point though.
RamblinRambo ago
There are so many people spamming from Reddit right now. One in particular is /u/freePatrick91425115 from reddit who uses /r/AgainstHateSubreddits his base for raids etc. Last night we saw a big spike in traffic come from there one of the threads in question: https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/61rufl/altright_twist_facts_yet_again_claims_that/
The guy is obviously mentally deranged and has been reported to reddit admins time and time again, who until now don't give a damn. I suggest the administration of Voat contacts Reddit about this. If need be threaten legal action for them allowing their website to be used as a means to damage yours. If there's one thing the idiots there care about it's their "brand".
We mods also need a better way to quickly report these people so they can be IP blocked.
Cuckbot ago
Probably this guy: https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/1173394/5814102
SaneGoatiSwear ago
-private subs are fair game to steal
-speaking freely is now behaviorally restricted. you cannot have a pasted tag at the bottom of unique comments that respond directly to the content of the OP and the comment whom they are responding to.
@puttitout has not clarified anything about ban rules. @puttitout still bans users in secret courts with secret rules with no oversight, no warning, no appeal system.
@puttitout has repeatedly lied to the userbase, provably and will not face these accusations instead he attack the user making the claims
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
stop shilling already amalek, it's over
throw57584 ago
Fuck you nigger
digitalentity1497 ago
HAhahahaHAHAH
FuckSaneGoatISwear ago
Fuck you. Go away.
Galvanized_Dreamer ago
Son, if you have a problem: Keep it all in one post.
oddjob ago
No shit, he'll get less downvoats that way
SaveTheChildren ago
PWND LOLLLLLL
TODAY IS A GOOD DAY
Cuckbot ago
He voted his SCP back up into postives and upvoted about 2-3k submissions to try to get his downvote rights back too in the last few days. Might want to check that.
Puttitout_Is_Fat ago
look, shills crying about a dozen ccp! they won't - no, can't - stop! they must silence the goy!
Cuckbot ago
It was SCP not CCP. It was -32 and is now +19. Unless you skipped math in grade 3 that is a lot more than a dozen.
8583554? ago
https://i.imgtc.com/llNSfc5.png
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/1738551
Cuckbot ago
Yep but this was his SCP this time though, check this archive and look at the SCP and upvoted submissions in particular. https://archive.is/rZgAK
Compare that to now. Since you cant downvote more than upvote now on SCP as well this is clear manipulation to get back dv rights.
Donbuster ago
I mean, to be fair, all of us in the negatives are upvoating like crazy. I had around a 700 deficit, built up over 2 years. Frankly, a lot of it is DVing spam, and whatnot, though quite a bit of it also is my spending too much time in /v/politics and /v/news for my own sanity.
Cuckbot ago
He went from -32 submission points to 13 to enable him to upvote like crazy. Thats the difference.
8583735? ago
Oh yes, certainly. Here's the graph of that more recent manipulation: (ignore the large linear section, I accidentally deleted some data and was too lazy to restore it from a backup) https://imgtc.com/i/JJFnZA9.png
SaneGoatiSwear ago
you're suggesting i'm not allowed to upvoat things, now? relevant username
edit 3 days later: oh, you're complaining about a few upvotes. well ban everyone who has ever upvoated someone 40! there goes so many!
this entire thread is filled with the deceivers and the easily deceived. it's very telling how few quality people remain here.
Kael_thas_Sunstrider ago
Nope, free speech is for all but Sane people
JunOS ago
Lol! We got their manager! No niggrr, jew, black cock references... this one is trying to have a real conversation, like the rest of us.
Sanegroup: Take that false front and shove it up your ass. Who knows, you all might like it? You like being called names all day long so it must be something there you enjoy.
guinness2 ago
PuttItOut has already warned you about your rabid alt creation and vote manipulation silliness.
Silencing other users by using an army of alts to spam and down-vote is not a valid form of free speech in the same way that bombing a sporting event is not a valid form of religious freedom.
Tipman79 ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Bonechip ago
Yep
SeanBox ago
Fuck you hecho
Hilarious_Exception ago
armday2day ago
I prefer
He's never said that, but I prefer it
Hilarious_Exception ago
It does have a certain ring to it, though I prefer he has to face his own bullshit he's spewing. :P
conestoga_dragon ago
hahaha
Cuckbot ago
I'm suggesting you suddenly getting 40 upvotes with no new submissions for 6 days to get back to positive SCP so you can pile on 2-3 k upvotes to try to even up your ratio is pretty suspicious. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong and go about my life.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
dear justin chastain (aka confirmed shill @puttitout) you have failed the community and ought be ashamed. you have done nothing but further the goals of those whom would wish to censor people like me. you have cucked voat. for this, your name will go down in history as the cuck of all cucks. the cuck who killed the last site for free speech on the interweebs. luckily you killed it long before many were disillusioned and joined. i expect your whoring out of voat to skyrocket it to popularity where it will be a sister hugbox to reddit. again, you are a disgrace to the human race - it's enemy incarnate.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
if I can read the above comment it isn't censored, simple fact
SelfReferenceParadox ago
This is some advanced autism, it's like some kind of inverse fanfiction.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
https://i.imgtc.com/X1TCUYw.png
FaggotBot ago
How can you claim censorship if you are still here posting, faggot?
SaveTheChildren ago
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GO EAT A DICK SANDNIGGER
LlamaMan ago
Sweet. Thank you, getting kind of sick of him. @noobftw is next methinks.
noobftw ago
And what rule have I violated?
Go ahead and point to it. I'll wait. You're welcome to come over to /v/Chicago and post if you're not 1) Posting about crime, which belongs elsewhere, 2) Not brigading, 3) Not in the sub for the sole purpose of being a general dick.
Wahaha ago
A sub about Chicago without crime would be empty, wouldn't it? Nothing else to report..
JunOS ago
No rules violated, but being an abusive mod or controlling the 'free speech' aspect will get you kicked the fuck out. Source? This thread about sanegroup getting the boot. Bwahahha
Tipman79 ago
You know the difference you fucking redditor faggot. Why don't you stop pretending like you don't. You "control that sub". You fucking SRS disease. Get over yourself.
The only reason you're answering these comments is because you see that Putt is stepping in on similar situations and you're scared that you're next. lol. what a bitch you are.
leaffur ago
Kill yourself. Please. Livestream it so we can watch.
LlamaMan ago
You're just a fucking nigger of a person and don't belong in a society free to speak their mind.
Ywis ago
What about crime in Chicago though?
european ago
you just deleted my post about unemployment citing rule 2.
Artofchoke ago
Honey. I see your point, but you have to realize it doesn't work that way here. Let people speak, even if they're stupid, even if they're wrong. You are fighting uphill on this, and no matter how well intended, it's a violation of the basic tenets of Voat. Relent. Nobody gonna hold a grudge, and anybody that does ain't shit. I love you, you have a good day bunny. hugs
MrPim ago
Why is crime in any city not relevant to that cities sub?
noobftw ago
It is relevant, and that is why there is a whole subverse dedicated to it. /v/ChicagoCrime.
We remove it from the sub for the same reason /v/Videos has chosen to remove porn (isn't porn a video?) from /v/Videos. If we allow it, then the sub becomes nothing but that. So a whole sub has been dedicated just for that purpose. When I can post videos of porn and gore to /v/videos, then we'll remove the rule forbidding Chicago Crime in /v/Chicago/
MrPim ago
Porn make Videos a NSFW sub. Moving crime stories has no function other than to hide stories you dont like.
Tetromino ago
It's a tried and true shill tactic, forcing commentary they don't like to other subs is called "containment".
Same goes for the "free speech zone" at some colleges, where you're not allowed to exercise 1st amendment rights except in a dedicated zone. Otherwise you risk hurting their groupthink and violating their "safe spaces".
Chimaira92 ago
Which is one of the biggest problems I have with r/The_donald banning people and referring them to r/askthe_donald, oh well. That place is pretty low energy now. I don't even see the same top posters around any more.
MrPim ago
Yeah i know. But he has no way of justifying it beyond that containment. And his comparison to Videos makes this clear. They have a valid reason and he has none.
Tetromino ago
agreed. Porn isn't a narrative, it's a type of content. Not really containment to differentiate on that level. But the Chicago shit going down now is trying to take a topic and apply arbitrary discrimination to views to push a political goal, to contain the truth of the situation while allowing the stuff that is "on-message". Protip: This is the true meaning of "politically correct", censorship in the name of pushing a narrative.
Now, news is a legit subcategory. So, one could say, "any news about chicago goes in the ChicagoNews sub". However, then you wouldn't be able to selectively censor certain type of news in order to push a narrative. Additionally it would be blatantly obvious that removing news from v/Chicago is assinine, as news about Chicago is relevant to Chicago. Containment is a form of Divide and Conquer. The key thing is to note what narrative is being maintained by the containment or censorship. For example, it would make no sense to branch off v/ChicagoDogs and say no dog posts in v/Chicago, because that's not pushing a narrative (unless the place was overrun by stray dogs and there were pro-dog-immigration groups denying the harm of living among roving packs of rabid leg humpers).
8584126? ago
Crime is very relevant to Chicago since that's it's biggest problem.
rightbyroy ago
If Chicago solves its nigger problem you'll see that crime problem evaporate.
Le_Squish ago
One True Putt is woke as fuck.
Zenocide ago
Piggy backing on this to say thank you to @PuttItOut for crushing this shill.
There should always be free speech, but sometimes you have to err on the side of what's right and in this case, this kind of transparency is exactly how you do it. Well done.
Puttitout_Is_Fat ago
Fool. SGIS was the anti-shill master. he made what the SJW, ie SRS was doing to voat in the shadows obvious. Before there was no proof. now it's clear what the shills have done. that's why most real goats have left voat. SGIS made clear that voat is not a place to have your say, but a control test bed for the shills to test attacks on the dissidents, free speakers, the non-sheeple.
but now thanks to SGIS, it's clear as day that voat has been taken over just like reddit, even down to the ceo replacement. only difference is instead of overt censorship they have underhanded censorship, but all the same both sites have hard-coded into the site pure authoritarian censorship.
voat is for the shills.
if you actually believe what you have written in your comment, then you are either a shill or so stupid as to believe what the shills have slung at you: lies without proof, defamation, and poisoning the well.
in the end, you are why free speech has fallen worldwide; all of the yous out there that do nothing, or worse, fall to their weak tactics due to lack of mental fortitude and jump on the bandwagon.
Zenocide ago
Here's how I know you're a queef, you use "sheeple" un-ironically. Back to reddit, baby dick.
fujin ago
This post is VERY VERY telling about @sanegoatiswear. It's starting to make sense, Putt writes "he" in quotations when referring to SaneGoat, in other words Putt is subtlety telling us it's a group or organization orchestrating the actions and direction of that sanegoat account according to what he's seeing on the back end.
This totally makes sense especially when you take into account how myself and others have said SaneGoat seems to have multiple personalities and seems to be working day and night on manipulating the system. (On a side note, I made a post a few months back pointing out how it seemed like someone or some group was trying to test out Voat's system by forcing obviously far left garbage to the front page. Could this be the same group Putt is referencing?)
I wonder what group could be trying to manipulate Voat's userbase actions.
Edit: this is very speculative on my part but SaneGoat would usually call me a
SHILL
and go over all the points of how I'm strawmanning him...
No response... confirmed?
freddymercury ago
Let's be clear here that vote is a forum for free speech not a safe place for right leaning people to discuss how much better they are than people who happen to live in America but are not "real Americans". It's totally okay for opinions that differ from yours to make it to the front page.
Gamio ago
I've read stuff that made the suggestion Mossad agents would often go into right leaning or what you'd now call alt-right spaces to try interdiction and manipulation of content only to fail miserably when anonymous users wouldn't play their roles as expected.
Cuilrunnings ago
It's probably Spez. He needs something to do with his time since the team took his powers away after he edited the_donald's comments.
AmaleksHairyAss ago
Stop trying to politicize freedom of speech.
Al_Rubyx ago
I'd like to putitout there. The admins can see basic info about your computer. If you're an organization of different people with the same goal it would be easy to tell.
WeekendBaker ago
I started to suspect multiple users after they had wildly differing speech. Sometimes it sounded like a well constructed argument. Others... chaotic shitposting. Makes sense.
DickHertz ago
If that was the case why not just ban the original account? Is anyone actually going to give a fuck about about it?
8591643? ago
It was probably not blatantly said and the original account not banned because there is no hard evidence. Aside from that it would make sanegoat right, maybe it is just one notsosanegoat with multiple alts? In that case let him just be another crazy - with one account not one thousand - then you can try and train him not to spam.
DickHertz ago
He's (or someone) has already switched to puttitoutisfat or something so at least regex idea only accomplishes getting the sanegoat brand out of the picture not the spamming itself.
It sounded like there was hard evidence but with VPN's in play I suppose you can make things look anyway you want to some degree.
8592069? ago
Or maybe it's just been Amalek in a basement this whole time.
ExpertShitposter ago
This was clear for a long time. How does one sit in chat literally 24/7. Its the Jews.
SimonRothschild ago
It's Tavistock
rightbyroy ago
If I were a betting man...
8584524? ago
SRS.
Tzitzimitl ago
is ((( feminist )))
Le_Squish ago
Considering that "they" have been harassing voat and ramping up efforts with every Reddit exodus, we can probably assume they are part of some state or corporate sponsered proganda group.
Places like voat and gab are a threat to them. Silencing us hasn't worked. Removing us from their platforms hasn't worked and dividing us hasn't work. Then we started to use their playbook against them and they lost their shit.
The icing on the cake is that voat is so legitimately diverse and multicultural that they can't profile us.
AmaleksHairyAss ago
Voat is largely male, 24-40, American, and conservative. That's your profile.
Donbuster ago
I wouldn't call us diverse, but we sure know how to fuck up their corporate utopia regardless, eh?
fujin ago
Sure they can you racist, bigot, xenophob, homophobic, islamaphobic, warmongering, white supremacists!
(Am I missing something?)
8587360? ago
Deplorable, misogynist, KKK, Nazi, fascist, terrorist, fanatic, etc.
Volcris ago
well endowed.
sakuramboo ago
Sexy.
8583103? ago
Thank you so much, Putt. <3
CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago
Thank you very much for your constant efforts to upgrade voat and improve the playpen. You are a chap in fancy pants.
I_like_paint ago
And thank you CCF for making voat great
Adolf_Puttler ago
Cum_control ago
"ive banned all sanes alts"...try again faggot
DishingShitLikeA ago
LOL
SaneGoatiSwear ago
@puttitout increased shadowboxing to greyboxing without community consent https://voat.co/v/announcements/1606918
@puttitout has a secret dev team voat's not allowed to know about such as fuzzywords , publicly https://github.com/voat/voat/commits/Dev and more that are hidden. https://archive.fo/glaJX
- @puttitout supports censorship by allowing weaponized voting, behavior and speech restrictions on voat https://voat.co/v/whatever/1679838
- @puttitout sanctions downvoat brigades against dissenters of the sjw srs control of voat (over 18,000 downvoats on my account, coupled with dozens of massive spam attacks on subs i mod, and thousands of hours spent attacking my character and attempting to turn the community against me, gaslight me, assassinate my character, wear me down, tens of thousands of comments and thousands of front page upvoat brigaded posts, and all the disinformation tactics in the book. not 1 single one of these criminal shills, nor downvoat brigaders were banned nor even warned, but @puttitout this confirmed criminal shill against freedom of speech of the highest order, badged a shill with a unique badge in 1 hour, for sjw shilling against community and also,
- @puttitout bans anyone preventing or slowing that silencing of dissent https://voat.co/api/bannedusers (see 2x groupings of goatku and friends) with secret bans in secret courts with secret judges with secret rules, with no warning, and no appeal. any amount they feel is upvoat brigading, and you may be banned. but downvoat brigading to silence free speech is protected.
over 150 accounts banned for voat manipulation with less than 10 votes ever given. a few accounts with ZERO votes ever given have also been banned for "vote manipulation."
- @puttitout supports and sanctions harassment and defamy campaigns against dissenters mega list of shills on voat an example of a criminal shill in the SJW organization
@puttitout threatens users doing nothing wrong https://archive.fo/TPPmG https://archive.fo/ym8Z6
@puttitout only hit and runs, misdirections, plays dumb, strawmans, etc, never meaningfully communicates with the userbase about serious issues, and creats anon discussions for SRS to create false consensus https://voat.co/user/puttitout/comments?page=3 https://voat.co/user/puttitout/comments?page=2 https://voat.co/user/puttitout/comments?page=1 https://voat.co/user/puttitout/comments https://voat.co/v/announcements/1557385 https://voat.co/v/announcements/1551024
@puttitout considers voat too much like reddit already but continues to add more restrictions to voat, and give more power to shills https://voat.co/v/voatdev/1707835/8368891/10#8368891
@puttitout pushes behavioral restrictions on all users, using the Slippery Slope fallacy american have seen most glaringly used to support the TSA in airports: megalist of censorship tools on voat
- @puttitout lies to the userbase. https://archive.fo/QR5Bk claims they don't remove points, yet was just proven to have removed over a thousand ccp from my account, and admitted it https://voat.co/v/whatever/1739271/8513784/10#8513784 lies right to your faces.
- @puttitout lies to the userbase again. https://archive.fo/P79EZ a month later, more bans, and no clarification. 100% lied to your face.
2275617 ago
What's wrong with all that? Makes perfect sense...MAGA!
janedoemadashell ago
A very insecure individual. maybe he needs to meet David Seaman....
Hilarious_Exception ago
confirmed hostile shill
capping logging archiving for continued hostile shill
guinness2 ago
Ha ha!
I came here to see SaneGoat have an Autistic screeching tantrum just like the little baby that PuttItOut described him to be... and I wasn't disappointed.
Heaps funny!
Moar pls.
Also, this.
Tipman79 ago
Kinda like when you banned everyone who said anything bad to or about you from TIL right?
You fucking nigger faggot hypocrite.
Bonechip ago
Yet another...
markrod420 ago
Lol your shit doesn't work here. We aren't sheep. We are the people actually paying attention. We all say shit that is totally unacceptable all the time. We never get banned. Why? Because we just use our own account to do it. None of us is falling for your shit. Get lost CIA.
Rotteuxx ago
This downvoat brought to you by the PuttShill Army
digitalentity1497 ago
HahahaHAHAHahahahAHHA
FuckSaneGoatISwear ago
U Mad Bro?
8589509? ago
It is indeed impossibru for him to not be overdosing on his own salt.
SaveTheChildren ago
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MrPim ago
You have one account now, use it wisely, or prepare to get assraped w downvoats.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
@puttitout check it out, your minion is openly threatening me. but you do nothing about actual shills because you are one!
SelfReferenceParadox ago
You can't threaten people on the internet. Or are you afraid of getting your feelings hurt? Sounds a bit social justice-y to me.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
Tipman79 ago
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!
I LOVE it!!! Putt isn't letting you get away with ANY of your shit anymore LMAO!!!
You're Voats resident bitch lol
kcamstar ago
It's simple... pull your head out of your ass and you'll do just fine.
SeanBox ago
It's not a threat... It's a promise. You're gonna get assraped.
markrod420 ago
Lol he is stating what is definitely going to happen to you thats all.
8583643? ago
I look forward to a few months from now when new users go "who's SaneGoat?" and no one really remembers.
MrPim ago
Im noones minion, and you know its true. Your behavior is what gets you dv. Nothing else. It isnt what you say. This has nothing whatsoever to do w free speech. Its your behavior. This has been explained to you repeatedly by dozens of users. You earn every single downvoat you get by behaving like the mental defective you are.
b0ard2death ago
Let's be honest dude, at this point, you're much much worse than any shill. I'll take a shill over your extremely excessive whining and spamming any day.
SaveTheChildren ago
WTF is sane going to do with his life? Or will he just keep shouting into the void?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
he's done this before v/amalekleaves
b0ard2death ago
He'll repeat his cycle. He'll delete his account (Amalek), open a new one with a new name (saneGoat), and stay off the radar for a brief period of time. But when he comes back, he's always recognizable. His personality works like a fingerprint.
SaveTheChildren ago
Once someone pointed this out to me, not sure if you'll get the reference. Sane's ramblings mirror the side of a Dr. Bronners bottle. It's very noticeable.
b0ard2death ago
Hahaha! That's disturbingly accurate.
LlamaMan ago
Lulgetrekt
FaggotBot ago
That was fast, faggot.
Galvanized_Dreamer ago
I'm starting to think this odd...
Is there any way he could be some for of AI/bot? Or has that theory been disproven?
JaggedxEdgex ago
It's kinda sad that his "intelligence" would be a monumental achievement in the field of artificial intelligence
MrPim ago
Hes probably had it written for weeks now in expectation.
8589516? ago
I'm willing to bet he had it ready way back when he first started spreading complete misinformation about Voat months ago.
conestoga_dragon ago
You are great, sir! Thanks on behalf of the silent majority.
MrPim ago
Bravo.
lbruiser ago
Hehehe
:e: >I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL
Looks like I'm re-subbing then. Thank you.
:e2: Also the sticky should be removed.
AmaleksHairyAss ago
I want to see a graph of the number of /til subscribers from yesterday to next month.
effusive_ermine ago
Oh sweet.