I’ve banned all Sane alts (while leaving the main account alone) for spamming. If Sane (or his group) wants to post on Voat, they can do so without using alts to hide behind, thus preventing their main accounts from being downvoted and thus restricted. I am done letting this group stomp all over Voat unfettered* like a spoiled toddler and pushing me to enact draconian rules to prevent them from doing so.
Don’t for a second be fooled at the motivations this group has for Voat, they seek not to help. They seek only to force censorship, drive away users, and ultimately destroy Voat while ruining Voat’s commitment to Freedom of Speech. I will not let them win.
They setup an unwinnable situation for Voat, and no matter Voat’s action, they can claim a victory.
If Voat bans them, they claim censorship. If Voat does nothing, reasonable users depart. Regardless of the action, a user subset will be infuriated, and this is entirely the purpose, divide and conquer. We all need to recognize exactly what is happening here. This isn’t about a single user, this is about an organized effort.
If you ever wondered why Reddit has so many private and obfuscated areas in code, fuzzed counters, shadow bans, etc.? It is to stop groups like this. The problem is, as you all know, once this code is implemented it can be used for both good and evil. I choose not to use the little time available on such things, and will instead ban users who engage in Amalek/ManHood101 style spamming in order to maliciously claim censorship later.
A user is free to say whatever they wish, but if they resort to using alt accounts in order to circumvent the protections we do have, these alt accounts will be banned for spamming.
I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL and v/ReportShills and moving both to @system. Both these subs were transferred to “him” and “he” has not been a good steward. What a joke. Enough of this as well.
* Screenshot taken from statistics page located at https://voat.co/statistics
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junesunflower ago
Saying users are free to say whatever they wish is extremely disingenuous.
First, A user with negative comment karma cannot post more then 10 comments a day. And their submissions are limited. Your system code has created an echo chamber where unpopular speech can be throttled by the hive mind. Merely disagreeing with people creates systematized censorship. Whereas the typical Trumpette spouting off the hive-mind narrative can post as freely as they like.
Second, there are rules all over in various subs that limit what individuals can post and say there. And there is zero guidance from Voat as to what the limits of moderation powers are.
heygeorge ago
How many more than 10 posts do you absolutely need to make in a day in order to have free speech?
junesunflower ago
So then we can make that a 10-comment limit for everyone?
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Because some of us have interesting things to say.
junesunflower ago
Not really. You're all just circle-jerking yourself about how great Trump is, and how bad the brown people are.
heygeorge ago
The circlejerk is real, granted. But that is part of a community. This will continue and possibly amplify as 'undesirables' are silenced and/or removed from Reddit.
Personally, I don't like how hastily downvotes are given in v/politics. But this is a normal reaction to often shit content.
You have managed to make a name for yourself here, and you make posts and comments daily. Maybe your account is limited, but that could be remedied by posting quality content to other 'verses that isn't politically charged. That choice is yours. You haven't been shadowbanned or otherwise silenced. There is something to be said for that.