I’ve banned all Sane alts (while leaving the main account alone) for spamming. If Sane (or his group) wants to post on Voat, they can do so without using alts to hide behind, thus preventing their main accounts from being downvoted and thus restricted. I am done letting this group stomp all over Voat unfettered* like a spoiled toddler and pushing me to enact draconian rules to prevent them from doing so.
Don’t for a second be fooled at the motivations this group has for Voat, they seek not to help. They seek only to force censorship, drive away users, and ultimately destroy Voat while ruining Voat’s commitment to Freedom of Speech. I will not let them win.
They setup an unwinnable situation for Voat, and no matter Voat’s action, they can claim a victory.
If Voat bans them, they claim censorship. If Voat does nothing, reasonable users depart. Regardless of the action, a user subset will be infuriated, and this is entirely the purpose, divide and conquer. We all need to recognize exactly what is happening here. This isn’t about a single user, this is about an organized effort.
If you ever wondered why Reddit has so many private and obfuscated areas in code, fuzzed counters, shadow bans, etc.? It is to stop groups like this. The problem is, as you all know, once this code is implemented it can be used for both good and evil. I choose not to use the little time available on such things, and will instead ban users who engage in Amalek/ManHood101 style spamming in order to maliciously claim censorship later.
A user is free to say whatever they wish, but if they resort to using alt accounts in order to circumvent the protections we do have, these alt accounts will be banned for spamming.
I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL and v/ReportShills and moving both to @system. Both these subs were transferred to “him” and “he” has not been a good steward. What a joke. Enough of this as well.
* Screenshot taken from statistics page located at https://voat.co/statistics
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Atko ago
Well done!
Could you also please reset /v/til css to default as the current one looks like shit on all devices.
o_V_o ago
Why can't I block /v/funny? I've been asking this for 3 days and no one has any actual answers. WTF is is the point in /v/help if no one helps?
Do I have to be a neo-nazi for you to acknowledge me?
There.. see, I'm one of you. Can get some help now?
Disappointed ago
Post it in v/voatdev. Puttitout reads there mostly.
o_V_o ago
I've tagged him and and even replied directly to his most recent comments... and nothing!
I always thought it was just the users who were retarded assholes, but maybe it's a top-down situation.
Disappointed ago
Well I've been ignored on direct comments and pings about as many as I've had replies from him so you're not alone. I think he just gets too many pings and comment replies now. But I do know he at least skims the thread titles on voatdev and this is a bug he'd want to know about.
o_V_o ago
If my problem was "being alone" this would be great news.
I don't actually expect him to fix my issue... that's why I asked about it in v/help. The first time I asked I saw that someone had already asked the same question and was told to wait a few minutes for the servers to catch up. Someone then replied to my thread with the same answer (prob just copying the reply from the other thread)... so, I decided to delete the thread and wait. 24 hours later and nothing changed. So.. I make another thread and wait another 24 hours and nothing. It's been yet another 24 hours and radio silence.
So... WHY THE FUCK is it so difficult just to get an official answer? @Atko mods /v/help... there are maybe 1-2 new threads posted there per day (the newest thread is 1.6 days old). It's not like he's being overwhelmed with questions. If he can't do his job, he needs to find people who can.. or close the fucking subverse. Not having a "help" sub would be better than having one that doesn't fucking help anyone.
Disappointed ago
Atko is retired. Try posting in v/voatdev, it's just a suggestion to try to help.
o_V_o ago
He's still a mod.... and he's still active.
Disappointed ago
I think that more just loose ends not tied up than anything. If he's asking Puttitout to make system changes to a system sub then he cant really help you with your problem.
o_V_o ago
He's the ONE AND ONLY mod of help.
???? Yes, he can. WTF? Are you just trying to be a contrarian or do you seriously not understand how this works?
He's a mod of "help". He "helps" by answering questions. He has not done that.. and the answer I did get was obviously not correct. The only thing he has to to is answer a question, not fix anything. If the problem is something that NEEDS to be fixed, he then asks @puttitout. This is pretty simple stuff.
Disappointed ago
He has stepped aside from the site in any official capacity and is likely only the mod of v/help because it hasn't crossed his mind to resign. Like I said a loose end not tied up. Anyway take my advice or don't, I don't want an argument about this. Good luck with it.
o_V_o ago
I was only aware of him stepping down as the head guy... I thought he said he was just going t be a normal user now. Normal users are mods for subverses. I don't recall him ever saying anything about stopping mod duties... and if that's the case, he really should have found replacements before just abandoning subs he mods.. especially v/help! @Atko
I don't either, but... if someone would just answer my question, we wouldn't need to have this conversation in the first place...
It's a pretty straight-forward question. Either, it's not possible or there's a problem. All it takes is one person with some insider info to spend 30 seconds typing out a reply... but apparently that's asking too much @PuttItOut @Atko
Mick ago
Hey there, do you still have the broken block?
o_V_o ago
Yes. 32% of my front page is "funny" links despite being blocked 3+ days ago.
Mick ago
OK, I'll go and talk to putts or fuzzywords and see if we can get this fixed for you.
o_V_o ago
Thanks
Mick ago
Fuzzy also says: "If he is not subscribed to any subs and is getting the default set, /v/funny may not be blocked there even if you manually block it. If that's the case it is probably a bug to report to Putts"
o_V_o ago
THAT sounds like it could be the issue... I unsubbed from everything a few months ago.
Mick ago
We've reported this to putts as a bug. It may take a few days to resolve. Let me know if it isn't fixed by Friday if you are around then.
o_V_o ago
Just an update: I tested it using "all" instead of my front page...
So, it appears that the block is working and it's exactly what fuzzy was talking about.
Mick ago
Thanks for that, I'll send your findings to fuzzy right now.
o_V_o ago
Also: (and maybe you already know this) Blocking from v/all doesn't seem to have any effect. If you block from v/all (block subverse), it switches right back on refresh... you have to go to the sub itself and block from there.
Mick ago
Hmm, blocking from all was working for me. We'll check that out too, cheers.
o_V_o ago
Has this been worked on at all? The rampant racism of whatever and funny is getting out of control. The site as a whole is becoming unusable due to these people (and they're too stupid to see the irony). Fighting with them can be fun, but it's becoming obnoxious now. So much fake bullshit on the front page, if I can't block it, there's no reason to be here. This is NOT the type of shit you just let exist... unless this place really is meant to be a honeypot. Between the racism and blatant lies, I kinda feel like anyone working on this site is either in on it, or should be extremely embarrassed.
Mick ago
@FuzzyWords is blocking subs from FP of /all going to happen?
I agree with much of what you say o_V_o - I rarely visit the frontpage of /all because of the bullshit that appears there.
Putts is all about freedom of speech. It's a very big deal to him and fair enough too. Unfortunately a side effect of this is bullshit is running rampant.