I’ve banned all Sane alts (while leaving the main account alone) for spamming. If Sane (or his group) wants to post on Voat, they can do so without using alts to hide behind, thus preventing their main accounts from being downvoted and thus restricted. I am done letting this group stomp all over Voat unfettered* like a spoiled toddler and pushing me to enact draconian rules to prevent them from doing so.
Don’t for a second be fooled at the motivations this group has for Voat, they seek not to help. They seek only to force censorship, drive away users, and ultimately destroy Voat while ruining Voat’s commitment to Freedom of Speech. I will not let them win.
They setup an unwinnable situation for Voat, and no matter Voat’s action, they can claim a victory.
If Voat bans them, they claim censorship. If Voat does nothing, reasonable users depart. Regardless of the action, a user subset will be infuriated, and this is entirely the purpose, divide and conquer. We all need to recognize exactly what is happening here. This isn’t about a single user, this is about an organized effort.
If you ever wondered why Reddit has so many private and obfuscated areas in code, fuzzed counters, shadow bans, etc.? It is to stop groups like this. The problem is, as you all know, once this code is implemented it can be used for both good and evil. I choose not to use the little time available on such things, and will instead ban users who engage in Amalek/ManHood101 style spamming in order to maliciously claim censorship later.
A user is free to say whatever they wish, but if they resort to using alt accounts in order to circumvent the protections we do have, these alt accounts will be banned for spamming.
I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL and v/ReportShills and moving both to @system. Both these subs were transferred to “him” and “he” has not been a good steward. What a joke. Enough of this as well.
* Screenshot taken from statistics page located at https://voat.co/statistics
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junesunflower ago
Saying users are free to say whatever they wish is extremely disingenuous.
First, A user with negative comment karma cannot post more then 10 comments a day. And their submissions are limited. Your system code has created an echo chamber where unpopular speech can be throttled by the hive mind. Merely disagreeing with people creates systematized censorship. Whereas the typical Trumpette spouting off the hive-mind narrative can post as freely as they like.
Second, there are rules all over in various subs that limit what individuals can post and say there. And there is zero guidance from Voat as to what the limits of moderation powers are.
heygeorge ago
How many more than 10 posts do you absolutely need to make in a day in order to have free speech?
Tallest_Skil ago
Infinity. Either go read the definition of ‘freedom of expression’ or line yourself up against the wall for us, please.
heygeorge ago
Lol! How often have you used more than ten comments in a day? Certainly not more than one submission in a day (or ever!). I noticed you are also a serial downvoter... The type who whines about the restrictions on yuh free speech because you can't vote down everyone or thing you disagree with.
Mmmhmm... "Us." Line up on the wall? What? You want to play dodgeball? I assume by 'us' you mean you already have a team together.
Tallest_Skil ago
Not an argument.
Not relevant.
You noticed nothing.
Because it’s a violation of human rights.
Truth is not a matter of disagreement. Fuck off, kid.
heygeorge ago
Lol! I see. Unable or unwilling to discuss, you must resort to nitpicking and name calling. What is the point of your free speech crusade if you choose to use yours to stifle discussion?
Tallest_Skil ago
Not very well, it seems.
Explicitly discussing.
Prove it.
I call a spade a spade. I call a retard a retard. You’re a retard. “Insult” implies incorrectness.
Because your strawman isn’t reflective of reality? Probably that. Fuck off, kid.
heygeorge ago
You seem better suited to Reddit. They tend to admire signaling more than discussion.
Thanks for playing!
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for shitposting. When you have an actual reply, feel free to post it, retard.