I’ve banned all Sane alts (while leaving the main account alone) for spamming. If Sane (or his group) wants to post on Voat, they can do so without using alts to hide behind, thus preventing their main accounts from being downvoted and thus restricted. I am done letting this group stomp all over Voat unfettered* like a spoiled toddler and pushing me to enact draconian rules to prevent them from doing so.
Don’t for a second be fooled at the motivations this group has for Voat, they seek not to help. They seek only to force censorship, drive away users, and ultimately destroy Voat while ruining Voat’s commitment to Freedom of Speech. I will not let them win.
They setup an unwinnable situation for Voat, and no matter Voat’s action, they can claim a victory.
If Voat bans them, they claim censorship. If Voat does nothing, reasonable users depart. Regardless of the action, a user subset will be infuriated, and this is entirely the purpose, divide and conquer. We all need to recognize exactly what is happening here. This isn’t about a single user, this is about an organized effort.
If you ever wondered why Reddit has so many private and obfuscated areas in code, fuzzed counters, shadow bans, etc.? It is to stop groups like this. The problem is, as you all know, once this code is implemented it can be used for both good and evil. I choose not to use the little time available on such things, and will instead ban users who engage in Amalek/ManHood101 style spamming in order to maliciously claim censorship later.
A user is free to say whatever they wish, but if they resort to using alt accounts in order to circumvent the protections we do have, these alt accounts will be banned for spamming.
I’m also pulling Sane off v/TIL and v/ReportShills and moving both to @system. Both these subs were transferred to “him” and “he” has not been a good steward. What a joke. Enough of this as well.
* Screenshot taken from statistics page located at https://voat.co/statistics
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Atko ago
Well done!
Could you also please reset /v/til css to default as the current one looks like shit on all devices.
o_V_o ago
Why can't I block /v/funny? I've been asking this for 3 days and no one has any actual answers. WTF is is the point in /v/help if no one helps?
Do I have to be a neo-nazi for you to acknowledge me?
There.. see, I'm one of you. Can get some help now?
Disappointed ago
Post it in v/voatdev. Puttitout reads there mostly.
o_V_o ago
I've tagged him and and even replied directly to his most recent comments... and nothing!
I always thought it was just the users who were retarded assholes, but maybe it's a top-down situation.
Disappointed ago
Well I've been ignored on direct comments and pings about as many as I've had replies from him so you're not alone. I think he just gets too many pings and comment replies now. But I do know he at least skims the thread titles on voatdev and this is a bug he'd want to know about.
o_V_o ago
If my problem was "being alone" this would be great news.
I don't actually expect him to fix my issue... that's why I asked about it in v/help. The first time I asked I saw that someone had already asked the same question and was told to wait a few minutes for the servers to catch up. Someone then replied to my thread with the same answer (prob just copying the reply from the other thread)... so, I decided to delete the thread and wait. 24 hours later and nothing changed. So.. I make another thread and wait another 24 hours and nothing. It's been yet another 24 hours and radio silence.
So... WHY THE FUCK is it so difficult just to get an official answer? @Atko mods /v/help... there are maybe 1-2 new threads posted there per day (the newest thread is 1.6 days old). It's not like he's being overwhelmed with questions. If he can't do his job, he needs to find people who can.. or close the fucking subverse. Not having a "help" sub would be better than having one that doesn't fucking help anyone.
Disappointed ago
Atko is retired. Try posting in v/voatdev, it's just a suggestion to try to help.
o_V_o ago
He's still a mod.... and he's still active.
Disappointed ago
I think that more just loose ends not tied up than anything. If he's asking Puttitout to make system changes to a system sub then he cant really help you with your problem.
o_V_o ago
He's the ONE AND ONLY mod of help.
???? Yes, he can. WTF? Are you just trying to be a contrarian or do you seriously not understand how this works?
He's a mod of "help". He "helps" by answering questions. He has not done that.. and the answer I did get was obviously not correct. The only thing he has to to is answer a question, not fix anything. If the problem is something that NEEDS to be fixed, he then asks @puttitout. This is pretty simple stuff.
Disappointed ago
He has stepped aside from the site in any official capacity and is likely only the mod of v/help because it hasn't crossed his mind to resign. Like I said a loose end not tied up. Anyway take my advice or don't, I don't want an argument about this. Good luck with it.
o_V_o ago
I was only aware of him stepping down as the head guy... I thought he said he was just going t be a normal user now. Normal users are mods for subverses. I don't recall him ever saying anything about stopping mod duties... and if that's the case, he really should have found replacements before just abandoning subs he mods.. especially v/help! @Atko
I don't either, but... if someone would just answer my question, we wouldn't need to have this conversation in the first place...
It's a pretty straight-forward question. Either, it's not possible or there's a problem. All it takes is one person with some insider info to spend 30 seconds typing out a reply... but apparently that's asking too much @PuttItOut @Atko
Mick ago
Hey there, do you still have the broken block?
o_V_o ago
Yes. 32% of my front page is "funny" links despite being blocked 3+ days ago.
Mick ago
Fuzzy says this (putts isn't around)
"He's possibly clicking and not waiting for the cache to catch up so he may click again and undo the block, that's my theorySent on:12:03 pmFrom:FuzzyWordsTell him to use that page to add /v/funny if it is not in the list, that page has a box where you can write the name of the sub you want to blockFrom:FuzzyWordsAlso ask him if he is subscribed to any subs, I have another theory"
o_V_o ago
No. I hit block once 3 days ago... and as you can see, it says "unblock" (which implies that "block" is enabled)
(24 hours after I initially blocked, I DID unblock and block again just to see if maybe it glitched out the first time even though it said "unblock"... that was 48 hours ago. Nothing has changed)