This bill is being voted on in the House which will be the death of our beloved Voat, we cannot allow this to happen, WRITE, EMAIL and CALL your Congressman!!!
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/s1693/summary
If this law passes all (((they))) have to do to shut down ANY site is to False Flag sex trafficking and the Feds will move on the site's owners; namely our beloved @puttitout. This must be stopped at all costs!
edit: Here is what alerted me to the problem: https://kek.gg/i/4g7_mf.png
user8839 ago
Why just not move servers and headquarters offshore?
bdmthrfkr ago
You lose 1st Amendment protections.
Professorballs ago
Will they shut down google servers? Would this still be a thing if it was pre google yahoo group like days? What about email distribution lists?
54m33r-89 ago
This bill is created by republican from Minnesota’s. Just so you know.
Reddit-is-kill ago
Is 4chan doing nothing? What? Does anonymous not deliver anymore?
ThisIsntMe123 ago
No one here likes pedos, nor wants to give them safe haven. That's why they don't like us. Didn't we kick that one Hecto or Hecho or whatever guy out?
bdmthrfkr ago
Hecho, the resident pedo was brutally ejected from Voat by all of us goats. He is a stain on humanity and next should be v/loli and the moderator Aged. He has the right to post on Voat whether I like it or not and that is one of the things that I like most about this place but I also have the right not to like his loli content.
The fact that I find loli crap abhorrent (it's not illegal btw) and the fact that Voat allows Aged to post said crap makes me realize that this is the right place to be for free speech. I don't have to like what you say but if we don't stick together and shut this law down none of us will have the right to say anything which is against the ZOG agenda.
mqrmqr ago
@Aged is most likely a Hecho alt.
bdmthrfkr ago
Believe it or not I actually asked him that once and he denied it. Since I don't have any proof either way...
Super_Cooper ago
Here's an easy link from the EFF: https://act.eff.org/action/stop-fosta
skodalover ago
omg no.. I only just moved here :(
novictim ago
This is an obviously dangerous bill and a tool for cloaking censorship as "saving the children!". Likely sponsored by Google and Facebook to squash their young and poorly funded competition. It would ultimately suppress any and all small upstart companies like Minds.com and VOAT with a wave of legal actions.
Shutting down dissenting voices would not be just a trigger pull away, a knee jerk action, whenever some agency feels upset that the public is getting around the MSM wall of propaganda and tailored narratives...BOOM! False Flag Child porn on the website +/- solicitations = legal action sufficient to destroy any small business. The power of the state cannot overwhelm Google but it can overwhelm VOAT.
And while they are obsessed with this bill, here is what they have ignored for over a decade:
http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/3576/full
bdmthrfkr ago
Site owners will never be able to keep up with the lawsuits, as soon as you fight off one they will just launch another. How long do you fight and when is it just not worth it?
novictim ago
Exactly. People will raise this issue and then other will say that the legal system will sort it out. But the legal system will then just bankrupt the competition as they defend the countless false flags thrown up by Google share holders and puppet accounts and troll farms.
R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd ago
If this is the case. Som et one better start archiving the entire site before it gets washed away.
oNicholasV ago
Yea, this won't be all over the news because 90%-95% of the media are leftist narratives. They would probably want this so that they can stop truth from being spoken on the internet.
I can totally see Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Reddit saying something like, "In order to stop child sex trafficking, we have to take down any content against gun control, or pro free speech, or pro nuclear family." I can totally see them saying, "If your anti LGBTQ then you're for child sex trafficking, and we must take your account down." That's just how inconsistent these folks are.
I honestly think, this stuff is going to eventually happen. People should start looking for ways to leverage the internet without the traditional website GUI
voatHatesTheFirst ago
You should jump on the blockchain internet bandwagon.
oNicholasV ago
Interesting. I thought blockchain was just for cryptocurrencies. Any, recommendations on where or how to get started?
BrokenCompass ago
So it begins, the great meme wars of 2018.
WIPRN ago
But why?
Glasswall ago
Couldn't be a more Orwellian name for these liberty stripping laws.
Next is the "Stop eating babies act" which allows law enforcement to search your home if you've purchased or are suspected of ever having used a pressure-cooker.
GoatyMcGoatface ago
1 house vote=love Jesus
Ignore=love santans
blame ago
v/bdmthrfkr Google CAPTCHA doesn't work on Tor you fucking idiot
srayzie ago
They call groups like ours conspiracy theorists and say we’re spreading fake news 😢
bdmthrfkr ago
That's exactly what I would expect them to say. You always know that you have touched a nerve when the shills dog pile your thread. Keep up the good work and ignore your enemies.
They know what's coming for them.
srayzie ago
I will unless I’m forced!
jafbm ago
You got this from 4chan? Don't you realize that 4chan is a parody site?
DonStimp ago
This became my favorite site over the last few weeks. I'm scared to reveal my identity for anything. I don't want this to shut down but I also don't want to reveal my identity to anyone and associate my real person with any political beliefs. The Jews say I'm White, the Whites say I'm a Jew. I guess I'll just pray.
YouveSeenTheButcher ago
Oy vey. Why do they persecute me so?
captainstrange ago
It looks like the deadline for it is 10am monday, not tuesday.
captainstrange ago
We can also start making posts on the Daily Stormer 'plotting' to get minority and jewish social media accounts/groups/websites shut down and then use that as evidence while calling our politicians. They'll shit their pants and want to distance themselves from the bill.
Every 'antisemitic' website you can find, start posting how we can use this bill to shut down minorities and jewish groups online.
captainstrange ago
The surest way to get this out front of the media is report it as 'dictator trump trying to censor the truth of russiagate on twitter.'
Theres your bait. The media won't be able to resist even if they want to.
InvestigoatX26 ago
I wonder...how we will find out who's ProSESTA if no one is talking about it. Who will save the poor children being abducted from FOSTA care if we can't.
Stop HR1865 Now...
someone Meme this, I'm trying to go back to sleep...
Optional-Reading ago
I understand OP's concern with the false flag attack to get Voat shut down but my question is how will FB & Twatter survive? BLM, Antifa, & ISIS are allowed on both of those platforms with no repercussions. Whatever loophole social media giants use to escape culpability should be used by Voat, GAB, etc
captainstrange ago
The loophole you're speaking of is 'selective enforcement', which is another word for 'privilege.'
This isn't something that can be exploited. Bigger platforms will just be given exceptions. Smaller platforms won't. Anyone arguing in favor of smaller platforms will be shot down as "supporting human traffickers over some small social media platform that obviously doesn't have its act together and is intentionally skirting the law" or some horseshit.
DieselBustersYes ago
WHAT THE FUCK.
20 YEARS IN PRISON WHAT THE FUCK FOR SITE OWNERS WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
I'm sentencing you to 20 years in prison because a user on your site said "I hate Hillary and photoshopped her into an orange jumpsuit." This is fucking ridiculous, communism and socialism gets on my last nerve. Make everyone dependent on you and/or powerless then fuck them up. Can't we just have a little bit of joy? :( Just a tiny god damn bit on the internet?!?!!
THANKS FOR SPREADING THE INFO, SORRY SO ANGRY AND UPSET CAN'T STOP TALKING IN CAPS.
Oh yeah, feel like they're salty that getting rid of net neutrality didn't change anything drastically.
America is turning into China 2!
America is turning into China 2!
America is turning into China 2!
forgot_p4ssword ago
So anyone wanna buy an childrens?
RIP muttland's internet hosting.
SolarBaby ago
It should be illegal to put forth bills with deceptive titles. "The Saving Babies from Rapists Act: 1) The Constitution is made null and void 2) (etc)" Hey Mr. Congressperson you don't want to have a NAY vote registered on your permanent record regarding the "saving babies from racists" bill do you? Career suicide!
Obviously if this was a great big wonderful piece of legislation the news would be boasting about it left and right, touting how it will save all the children from the bad internet people. Amazing how fast the government can pass legislation that is traitorous, treasonous, tyrannical. Good reform must be talked about for years and never passed.
Oh look at me wasting time complaining about the workings of a government that doesn't even exist anymore because it was sold out to a global cabal over a hundred years ago and has only been a free Constitution country as a facade to keep people from rising up against their bondage.
captainstrange ago
Just removes names from bills entirely. Bills may only have numbers.
Problem solved. Removes the propaganda factor.
SolarBaby ago
That'd work.
Sometimeseatscats ago
And of course its a republican bill.
RailCar ago
keep protecting that cp....
Obeastiality ago
It was nice knowing you all
bisteot ago
Internet has been underfire for a long time, ttp, net neutrality, acta, drm as part of the web standard, etc.
Tons of battles have been lost and people have been too busy being idiots thinking that this is a left vs right thing...
Subtenko ago
Can they not do this already?
killer7 ago
And that's not all!
There's also FOSTA
RemoteViewer1 ago
Dear Congress running Jew Pedophile Cunts :) If you shut down free speech ??????????? We'll burn down ALL your PEDOPHILE homes in Hawaii ;) Promise. Aint that right Zuckerburg. ?? Nice hangout near your front gate ,. owned by that Billionaire Jew Pedophile // that fruit stand is the first to go .
HaveNotBe ago
I'll be honest, I don't care. This place has been overrun by talmudic bullshit. I only come here for the memes - which I can find other places most times.
Arcesious ago
Wait a second. This bill is from 2017 and was going to be voted on in September of that year according to the link. Did it pass or what? Why are we suddenly talking about it now?
ShinyVoater ago
Here's the one that's up for a vote. OP decided to link to a Senate bill instead of the House bill.
bourbonexpert ago
Isn't this site on cloudflare? also, how are they going to enforce it? they've been trying to shut down TPB & 4Chan for fucking years.
also, reddit,twitter and facebook all shut down free speech anyway...what else is new?
bdmthrfkr ago
Voat is on Cloudflare but so was the Daily Stormer, and look what happened to them.
B0YCOTT_SEARS ago
Let's ban cars, trucks, and planes too while they're at it, because the traffickers use them to move their victims to those shit-hole places where the prevs pay big money to the traffickers to feed their degenerate lifestyles.
bdmthrfkr ago
If they were serious about protecting our children they would just enforce the laws against raping babies which are already on the books. They aren't doing that so there is obviously a different agenda.... I wonder what it could be...
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ago
This is why us internet land people can't have nice things! Damn it.
digitalentity1497 ago
Move Voat back to an off-shore location. Is this feasable?
bdmthrfkr ago
Should do but that's up to putt. Not our call.
Dark_Shroud ago
No, because the EU is cracking down far harder.
7t ago
Conclusion: Don't host in the United States. Don't host in Europe.
Baconmon ago
What is needed to fix the root problem is some thing that can not be taken down.. A decentralized platform needs to be created, but that can still be updated or changed by a group of developers (kind of like how crypto works, or how openbazaar works)..
I know some thing like that would take time and effort to create and make it as good as voat is now, but I am afraid in the future we won't really have a choice.. Hopefully this piece of shit bill won't pass, but it probably WILL PASS because the title of the bill was made to be loaded, so that if you vote against it, it makes you look like some evil pedo..
"Don't you want to help all the poor innocent sex-trafficing victims? Well then CENSOR THE WHOLE INTERNET, or else YOU ARE AN EVIL PEDO!"
Diggernicks ago
Moralfag nigotry at its worst.
Chimaira92 ago
So what can us non-Americans do?
littul_kitton ago
Make sure that Voat is hosted in the U.S. This garbage violates the Constitution, and we have the guns to make it stick.
Dark_Shroud ago
You should look at TOR and I2p because you might need them to access some sites and services.
bdmthrfkr ago
Meme the hell out of this and share it all over the web. I have no idea what those memes will look like, I leave that up to you. This will eventually effect all of the web regardless of which Country you live in, this fight is one that all of us must fight.
Diggernicks ago
Ddos google.
paunchy225 ago
It's getting close. The time is coming
bdmthrfkr ago
DOTR
Ralman23 ago
Noooo!
Diggernicks ago
Moralfaggotry doubling as a censorship tool, pure fucking failure.
Buff_Awesome ago
Sure are a lot of shill and sleeper accounts suddenly waking up to post on this thread.
MESHNET ago
On a site like this, it's wise to post from VPN's, using new accounts when posting potentially controversial views. I've been around since the beginning but it never felt wise to build up a single account. Once you've been accosted by the thought police once, you tend to tighten up your game. ;)
bdmthrfkr ago
The "Shill Rule" is simple. The more truth that they are trying to suppress then the more resources they will devote to your post. I actually love shills, they ALWAYS let me know when I am on the right track.
GreenSmoke ago
Its about time we begin exercising our god given inalienable human rights. Like the bill of rights. And none of that namby pamby interpreting shit, its very obvious the intent and meaning behind the bill of rights.
So they constantly violate our inviolable rights, trampling all over the constitution and attempting to destroy the foundations of the greatest free country to ever exist. Pretty solid god damned reasons to fully exercise our first and second amendment rights, speak out against the tyranny (and jee would you look at that a bill proposed to further erode that right) and then when they try and stop the first, utilize the second. There is PLENTY of historical and constitutional basis for the people who believe in America as founded, to arm themselves and take definitive action to ensure the constitution is upheld.
Right now, real Americans are exercising EXTREME restraint and a willingness to work peacefully towards correcting these problems, by not having giant well armed civilian militias storming and taking over the illegitimate government institutions (any gov arm that has violated the constitution in any way is illegitimate) and executing all the treasonous worms. We are trying to be peaceful, but they just keep taking and pushing and banning and registering and spying and stealing and murdering, and its unacceptable.
If Trump is assassinated, if they ban sites like voat and none of us can communicate freely, thats the end of peacefully attempting to fix things. THE FUCKING END. There is already currently vastly more than enough reason for armed violent revolution, but I'm drawing some lines and i expect other constitution believing Americans to do that same. I was born into this country to a line of people born into this country by a line of people who founded and established this country. That line also mixed with the "native" population, so i am an American, can literally not be any more American, my ancestors lived here before whitey showed up, they failed miserably at guarding their lands and people from being displaced by the COLONISTS (Not invaders, not illegal aliens) and now that part of my ancestry is essentially gone thanks entirely to their "open borders" way of life. But the larger part of my heritage, the colonist side, did nothing wrong by going somewhere they were essentially welcomed to, in a time of the world where conquest was still accepted, they didnt have to sneak past the native border patrol, they didnt have to bombard the beaches and storm forts to capture everything, largely they just showed up, were welcomed, bought a bunch of land for beads, and eventually became the new natives.
I've digressed enough, my point is, this is my home, this is my land, this is my constitution, these are my rights, and i will NEVER surrender them. Not to a flood of illegal beaners, not to somali "refugees", not to the snakey jews bringing all the savages in, and not the mentally retarded left who use the constitution and the memories of our founding fathers as toilet paper (assuming they use paper and not their left hand)
bdmthrfkr ago
Fight for your land (at the ballot box and by interacting with your Representative) for as long as possible. NOBODY really wants another Civil War. If the ballot box is compromised though and our means of communications are compromised or shut down, then more forceful means may be necessary. I honestly hope that it never comes to that but if it must then it must.
Americans are a generally peaceful people until they have been backed into a corner, that's when the gloves come off and we show the colors that don't bleed.
Trapezoidal ago
The Jews are only testing if American can handle a dick of this size......a drill and if no body screams they will shove it all the way through
bdmthrfkr ago
What, not just the tip this time?
Joking aside you make a great point, people need to make a giant noise about this to let them know that they can't just slip this in. It doesn't matter if you are in America or not, they plan to roll this out worldwide too.
thelma ago
And I like to traffic in human trafficking so I am opposed to the bill !
bdmthrfkr ago
Your personal problems are your own but when nice neighbors show up at your door some night with pitchforks and torches don't be surprised.
thelma ago
I just gas them and knock them out. More humans to traffic? Excellent.
Cannibalguy ago
List of all congressmen (house only). Includes phone numbers, does not include email
https://www.house.gov/representatives
bdmthrfkr ago
No email? Well then just call the bastards and tie up their phones.
Great find!
Chiefpacman ago
Has anyone emailed their congressmen yet? Maybe this is lazy of me, but if you could copy paste a good template.
I’ll reword it/send it off.
MESHNET ago
Smart people don't waste time begging tyrants for peanuts. They create alternatives that make the tyrants obvious and obsolete.
Chiefpacman ago
Couldn’t hurt
MESHNET ago
By asking them for consideration, we de facto legitimize their false authority.
Chiefpacman ago
If the system is working at all, it helps.
Writing your elected congressman to consider your opinion; is not recognizing false authority. Technically we are the authority; instructing our agent.
Or the lizardmen run things; and its too late anyways.
Either way I’ll shoot an email to my congressman, so should you
MESHNET ago
I have no congressmen. Only slaves attempt to meet their needs through representative systems. I want the corporate internet to become so unusable that those that are good with coding put their fucking video games down and work to create open source and free alternatives.
Chiefpacman ago
I think that’s the opposite definition of slavery. Slaves don’t have a representative body.
I’m not sure that the internet works like that. Besides, Amazon’s interne feed going down wouldn't do much/ easily repaired..
MESHNET ago
I don't draw any benefits from the system and am therefore not contracted into it. I don't even believe that congressmen and the pathetic statists that grovel before them are even human so I most definitely don't have a congressman.
If you can't get up every day and do exactly what you want to do without jeopardizing your ability to feed and shelter yourself, sorry, but you are definitely a slave. Your masters, instead of using whips, just use propaganda, money, and your own ignorance and greed to control you.
This entire internet is the corporate internet. When people can only access gmail, youtube, amazon, netflix, and government sites on it, it will be replaced as the primary means of communication. Look at the currently available ISP plans in Portugal as an example.
MHole ago
Want to solve the problem with Federal Overreach?
http://f4ct.co/
Hold them accountable to their own laws.
bdmthrfkr ago
POTUS is doing that behind the scenes but if this law passes the Congress his hands will be tied. He signed an EO which made powerful people around the world either quit or not run for re-election (the jewgle guy was just one of them) so if an anti-trafficking law is placed on his desk he will HAVE to sign it. Better to just fight to kill this abomination in it's infancy. Work on that please.
MHole ago
NO. THIS IS A FUCKING DISTRACTION. WE HAVE THEM DEAD TO RIGHTS PROTECTING TREASON WITHIN THEIR OWN RANKS.
THAT HAS PRIORITY. WORK ON THAT PLEASE.
MHole ago
Don't worry about the Feds. They are too busy being incompetent and protecting themselves from their own futures in prison.
Literally do not worry about the Feds. They are completely useless, completely unethical, completely neutered by their own dishonesty.
This site could be a place to buy human organs and it would be up for another decade before they noticed. They are that fucking stupid and pointless.
Yes I am talking about you, FBI.
bdmthrfkr ago
The FBI is comped as fuck but to a small site owner their power is immense. IMMENSE!!!
No site owner needs the headache of fighting them in court, kill this abomination of a bill in it's crib. Fight for your rights or lose them!
MHole ago
Their power comes from us. E Plerbus Unim.
They have no power unless they are legitimate. Right now, it is clear they are not legitimate.
DanHalen ago
There is a solution. It would require extreme measures to stop this kind of intrusion. I suggest reading Industrial Society and it's Future.
bdmthrfkr ago
The uni-bomber's paper? I was always interested to read it but...uh...it's really long. Is there a TLDR on it?
DanHalen ago
No Tl; DR, but here goes: 1. The left is a useful tool to propagate the systems needs 2. All is accomplished for the system, from intellectuals to rebels. 3. Technology is the means to sustain and advance the system. 4. You cannot separate the good from the bad in regards to major technologies. 5. People en masse are susceptible to living in horrible conditions or willing to bear atrocities if they have no hope, or if everyone around them sees no way out.
bdmthrfkr ago
Thanks for that, I will revisit it when we put out this current brushfire.
To be fair his methods achieved not very much, maybe writing your Congressman (along with thousands of others) might be more effective. Just a thought.
DanHalen ago
I agree that on the large scale his first actions did nothing but lend notoriety to his name. His writings will have much more impact.
physicscat ago
https://democracy.io
This is sponsored by the EFF. Quick way to write your representatives. Also read the following to get a better idea of what is going on and you know what you are talking about when you write them.
https://www.eff.org/ko
bdmthrfkr ago
I kinda messed up this morning in my haste to post this and forgot to give people options and rage free ways of addressing their Representatives.
Good post!
physicscat ago
No problem. I saw this today too, and I went ahead a contacted my reps. The EFF is a good group for keeping up with this stuff in D.C.
lord_nougat ago
The ACLU of all people are acting like good guys again in this one rare instance:
https://action.aclu.org/secure/save-net-neutrality?ms=web_171214_freespeech_netneutrality
bdmthrfkr ago
Sometimes they promote Civil Liberties (as their name would imply) but most of the time they don't. At this point in time though I will happily have their support, EVERY little bit will help in this fight.
Dark_Shroud ago
These kinds of legal loop holes and precedents can hurt them and their future legal proceedings.
bdmthrfkr ago
Most certainly but it just depends on who is controlling the reigns of power. Regardless of whoever is running the show, putt will be put in a position where he has to make a choice, fight or fold.
I would rather that this bill never becomes law so that he doesn't have to make that decision; that is why I put out this call to arms to all goats. Fight for your rights or lose them. Simple.
lord_nougat ago
Agreed.
I quit being a member a few years ago, when they made it clear they were actually the American SJW Union, who had no real interest in constitutional rights of American citizens; but they're right about this, at least. And yeah, we can use all the help we can get.
fl3x ago
YUP. I fucked right off after supporting them for AGES. This world is going towards nutz-o faster and faster and faster.
Mr_NoSkill ago
I'll just post my dank memes on the door to McDonald's
bdmthrfkr ago
Would you like some fries with your internet censorship sir?
KILLtheRATS ago
I hope this inspires a white warrior
Bill_Murrays_Sandals ago
Start sending those emails and making those calls, boys. Free speech is at stake. Don't sit back and let them take that away from you.
bdmthrfkr ago
THIS!!! And memes too, fire up your image editor and get to work. I normally am not so alarmist but this really activated my almonds this morning, this is the classic edge issue that they always use to deny the freedom of regular people.
@pebefri posted this earlier, you are really popular around here (and I assume at other places) so maybe you could spread this old but good meme again.
edit cause I am a dumbass and forgot the link: https://i.imgtc.com/WGnN1ml.jpg
stealthninjataliban ago
Can we move Voat out of the US? Why does the US get any hosting these days?
bdmthrfkr ago
I would hate to be a hosting service in the U.S if this passes. As afr as Voat goes I don't really know, I assume that the site can be hosted offshore but CloudFlare is an American company and will eventually be effected as these types of laws expand. Just look at the Daily Stormer as an example.
Optick ago
I kind of hope that is passes so it might start a decentralized forum and imageboard arms race that will create sites can't be (((shut down))). It might be a little too optimistic of me to think it will though.
bdmthrfkr ago
That will be our fall-back position if we are forced into it but it is hard to reach hearts and minds from inside of a deep dark well. I know what you are saying and I hope that all fre thinkers take this lesson to heart and build a free web but losing this battle will cut off our access to the general population.
Fight this first and then lets start creating a backup plan.
Conspirologist ago
If (((they))) want this bill, it will pass no matter what. It already happened with transgender bullshit.
Maxcactus ago
Saw that coming.
aileron_ron ago
The one thing that I saw was "The bill would allow the government to prosecute websites which knowingly help or promote sex trafficking". Is that what voat is about criminal activity's.
bdmthrfkr ago
No the problem is that bad actors can plant evidence on a site that they don't like, hide it in a corner that nobody will ever see and then use that in a Federal court of law. Most site owners will opt to close the site before they have to run the proprietorial gauntlet.
Read the red text. Pic related:
https://kek.gg/i/4g7_mf.png
aileron_ron ago
I see now, I quit watching TV some time back for the false adverting commercials and now they want to fuck up voat.
bdmthrfkr ago
The gatekeepers realized that there were backdoors in their walled garden, now they MUST close all of the other gates.
Don't let them. Fight. Fight for your rights or you will lose them.
nullifyNWO ago
The idea ALONE is an attack on the 1st. The FIRST! - Take names and unleash hell on every congress 'man' who votes yes.
bdmthrfkr ago
Yes. Yes it is. Fight fight fight!
bdmthrfkr ago
It's putt's neck on the block, he wants us to save ourselves by causing a stink and derailing this travesty. Do your part goat, get out there and let people know about this!
cantaloupe6 ago
If it's an issue, perhaps don't store user images locally, until legal advice can be obtained; if voat only holds text it shouldn't be accountable. Perhaps take steps to move the domain as well. External images could be linked and embedded. @PuttItOut Perhaps this is already done; haven't checked the implementation.
bdmthrfkr ago
Unfortunately "trafficking" can be accomplished by text. Not as great a case in court but good enough to bring a case in court. How many site owners want to face a Federal judge? My guess would be zero.
Elemental_Lightning ago
It looks like they found a way to censor the internet after all. Those bastards
bdmthrfkr ago
@PeBiFre posted this earlier and it will be relevant for some time to come:
https://i.imgtc.com/WGnN1ml.jpg
Elemental_Lightning ago
.... right, this looks fimilar
King_Freya ago
Wouldn’t it be pretty obvious if the claims just came out of nowhere though?
bdmthrfkr ago
If you are targeting a site you will document it (from a concerned citizens account, of course). Then the courts come into play.
If you are an American write your congressman, if not then spread this information in such a way that Americans find out about it. This is totally buried right now by the "press" and almost nobody knows that freedom of speech online might come to a screeching halt.
ifeelamemecomingon ago
Good. Pedophiles don't deserve freedom of speech.
Merador ago
Wait, Voat is American?
PS: No it's not. I did some research and Voat is Swiss, so the American bill OP linked to has no jurisdiction. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/what-voat-anti-censorship-alternative-reddit-that-trolls-have-flocked-1510615
bdmthrfkr ago
Atko started the site offshore but handed it over to Putt a while back and it was moved to America.
Merador ago
Well that's a dumb thing to do.
Move it in under the Patriot Act etc.
crazy_eyes ago
First amendment made the US the best place to host a site like voat
Merador ago
Articles 13, 16, and 17 of the Swiss Constitution aren't good enough?
crazy_eyes ago
I don't really know anything about the Swiss Constitution, so I can not make an intelligent comment on that. I do remember that put and atko mentioned the freedom of speech in america when it was moved. Hell I remember atko looking for someone in America to register the site
Merador ago
Just the Patriot Act, and National Security Letters. Them's some shit, man.
crazy_eyes ago
Fucking Unconstitutional is what they are
Carlosone ago
For those hoping this sparks a civil war..... That's not going to ever happen. Not enough true patriots. Better just to create a new nation. Much better chance of that succeeding.
bdmthrfkr ago
The civil war will be won at the ballot box, if the ballot becomes compromised then the 2nd Amendment will come into play.
Carlosone ago
We will never know. But I appreciate your optimism
I_TakeupSpace ago
No, this site is not "beloved". This site is a way to waste time. And what if this does pass?
Well, then people might have to start getting together in person to actually discuss their views, instead of relying on a prettified BBS. For all you basement dwellers on here, that's a vastly different experience. And who knows? Then things might actually start getting done!
MESHNET ago
EXACTLY!!!
MESHNET ago
I gave up on my old account because it seems that this entire site consists of shills and bots but I guess I'll give it one more try.
ATTENTION VOAT USERS! I'm freely giving you a trillion dollar idea that will create free communication for the entire world!
This site is hosted on and accessed through a compromised network, so intentional of not, Voat IS a honeypot! The corporate/government internet was started by DARPA! https://www.darpa.mil/
THE INTERNET WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE FREE OR FAIR!
If you truly want a way to spread ideas and communicate freely, without government intrusion, open source, decentralized, p2p meshnet development is the only path to that goal. Begging the psychopaths in charge to protect your rights to use their services will get you nowhere!
Here's the only way it will work with currently available tech:
Someone will need to modify the open source diaspora code in a few ways:
The first step will be to extend the packet hand off time from three hours to at least three days. This way, if people access the network at least once every three days, they won't lose any federated info.
Next, pics and video will need to be disabled in order to lower bandwidth and prevent sabotage by gov forces posting CP.
Then, the code needs to be altered so a small cryptocurrency bond must be put up to open an account. This bond will grow and shrink in accordance with the crypto market. It might be a good idea to start a totally anonymous meshnet specific crypto$. It could be called meshcoin if someone's not already using it. When someone is banned from the network due to community flagged abuse, their bond goes towards incentivizing community moderators that are randomly chosen from a pool of high reputation users and transceiver node builders/maintainers. If someone quits the network in good standing, they get their entire bond back, including the value that it's gained. This will incentivize early adopter/s/developers to do whatever they can to expand the network because once the network grows and their bonds gain value, they can quit, cash out, and make a new account whenever they want.
A community moderation system will need to be installed so that members with a good reputation are randomly chosen to moderate posts that are flagged by the community. Once a user gets a certain number of verified flagged posts, they are banned and their bond gets used for network growth and moderation incentives.
A backup sneakernet system will need to be established to transfer communication between local nodes in cases where p2p or long range repeaters don't work or are disabled. Truckers could plug thumb drives into local nodes as they complete their routes, and be entitled to some of the forfeited bond money for their services.
Federated info could be checked for accuracy by using blockchain technology. Maybe some of steemit's code could be applied here?
Also, setting up a system where users can sell of freely share their DARPAnet connections will be a good idea until the meshnet gains coverage.
Hyperboria/Project Meshnet has decent routing software figured out.
Solar/wind powered repeater drones could be built with forfeited bond money and deployed to spread the network, leapfrogging the information over mountains and uninhabited areas. Wind/shock/solar/12v powered mini repeater nodes that automatically connect and spread federated info could be magnetically attached to taxis, buses, UPS trucks, and semi's.
THIS IS A REAL SOLUTION THAT IS POSSIBLE WITH CURRENT TECHNOLOGY! Basic nodes can be built for the cost of an old router.
All that's needed is a few people that are good at coding to tie already developed open source software together and a few people that want to invest a little bit of their time and money to build and maintain nodes. Forfeited bonds can repay them once the network is established and fund operating costs.
I have a strict policy of not meeting online contacts in person but I put all of the necessary information here for someone to form a group, take these ideas and run with them. If this group is formed, I'll join in and participate as much as I can.
As I said above, Voat is a honeypot, whether intentional of not, simply because it operates over a corp/government controlled network. I would recommend that the initial group that forms use in person interaction, far away from smart phones and IOT devices, and snail mail to communicate until the project is rolling on it's own, is too big to stop, and has spread organically over the darpanet. This core group could write the code in a way where they get a small percentage of the forfeited bonds as well, making this a potentially extremely lucrative endeavor that will make facebook's financial success a joke in comparison. The people that enable free communication to the entire world will get rich beyond their wildest beliefs, and not by taking money from good people, but by taking money from spammers, scammers, and assholes. You will be heroes to the entire planet but will have to remain anonymous to protect your safety. If this type of network grows big enough to cut into the profits of the establishment, they'll do everything they can to stop it.
derkataIog ago
you should have messaged me, @sanegoatiswear. @puttitout account is operated by the paid shills that own and operate voat. i'm currently building a voat replacement (as well as some other sites that i believe the community will enjoy).
and although the first version (to get it up quick in case these sites literally die) will be front net, i'm considering something akin to a mesh network or something like holochain for the final version. i do like holochain. thoughts?
BrokenCompass ago
Disable video or images. You do know you can still send shitloads of "text looking shit" that makes up an image?
Baconmon ago
You seem to have done a lot of research about that.. And even if every aspect of the idea isn't completely perfect yet, it is far better than operating over the clear normal ISP internet..
The problem with humans is that they are lazy and if what they are currently using works, they don't see a reason to switch to some thing else.. I am just kind of speculating and don't know much about it, but if your plan could some how be modified to work on both the ISP internet AND the meshnet it might encourage people to transition to it more, because few people are going to want to join a meshnet at first if there is hardly any thing on it.. Just like how 64-bit processors probably would have flopped if they didn't include 32-bit compatibility, but now mostly every one is running 64-bit stuff.. So if the meshnet could use the normal ISP internet as a transparent back-up, I think that might help people integrate in to the meshnet easier.. Not sure how the logistics of that would be implemented exactly..
Any way, decentralized stuff is definitely part of the future, like cryptocurrencies can eventually replace traditional fiat currency, openbazaar is the decentralized counterpart to rakuten/amazon/newegg etc, and the meshnet will be a counterpart to using ISP as an expensive middle-man to access the internet..
I think people that can think critically such as your self are very much welcomed on places like voat, so hopefully you can stick around and post some more stuff on various subjects around here..
MESHNET ago
I posted all of this stuff here for two years and no one ever interacted at a productive level. I just decided to sign back up to drop this idea here again. I don't think an alternative will be developed until the current system fails. Sadly, losing the opportunity to use the master's tools to build the escape ships will make developing alternatives exponentially more difficult. It may already be too late.
As far as implementing the structure on the current internet goes, it's just not going to happen because it threatens the current system. It's like asking your heroin dealer to meet you at the counter at your local drugstore and making the deal right in front of the pharmacist.
MESHNET ago
Someone already pm'd me to let me know that this system would be too easy to abuse. I asked them how.....no response. There won't be a valid response because it's bombproof.
MESHNET ago
Another pm from a user that doesn't understand forums, or doesn't want to make their ignorance and negativity public:
"No the problem is you misunderstand human nature. your post implies that people are just going to naturally cooperate and facilitate this freedom. If history has taught us anything it's that humans are always the weak link in the equation."
My response: Why are you sending me pm's when you obviously don't understand how open source software and blockchain tech works? Why not post in the thread so others can address your questions? Also people with the same questions as you will have access to the answers, which saves everyone's time and is the entire point of a forum format.
This system actually feeds itself with the disgusting nature of civilized subhumans. Anyone abusing the system can be flagged. Those flags can be investigated by moderators that are chosen at random. Anyone can lose their account. If someone sees that another user, even a core developer, is abusing the system, they can put a request into the moderation que and it will be handled by the community.
MyOriginalVoatUser ago
This is how totalitarian societies work. Once our basic right to bear firearms have been removed then we will loose the freedom of speech.
bdmthrfkr ago
And every other right given time. The 1st and 2nd Amendments weren't the 12th and 13th Amendments for a reason.
WatchListMe ago
One of Donald Trumps primary achievements has been to stop human trafficking and arrest pedophiles. He is against net neutrality, and overturned it. Everyone thought the sky would fall, and nothing happened. There are no fast lanes - and he said it was vital to catch pedophiles and end human misery.
Now I understand this bill, if passed into law, could be abused by bad actors. For example, some kike could upload his personal collection of child rape photos to voat, and then report voat for hosting illegal material. This could result in Voat being shut down by force for distributing child pornography.
However, if Voat would comply and pass over the IP address of the bad actors who uploaded this content - I have to believe they would work with them. This is a slippery slope however, and could also lead to the requesting of the IP address of those who say they want to shoot obama in the face, want to gas the jews, etc...
Anything and everything can be exploited to someones benefit. However, if you are a pedophile I want you arrested and sentenced to death in as quick a trial as humanly possible. The only reason I am hesitant to support this bill, is that there do not appear to be any safeguards against an innocent webmaster being attacked. At the same time, if Donald Trump spoke about this bill and said he needed it to catch the scumbags - I would reluctantly support the bill.
Does anyone know who proposed this bill and whether they were appointed by Trump? Who is responsible, and which party is responsible for this proposal? That makes a world of difference.
Crikes ago
Attack on free speech is attack on right to bear arms.
We must have free speech to know when to use our arms.
We must have right to arms to be able to defend against trouble when we know it exists.
They are linked. This is why they're under attack simultaneously at the moment.
They're coming at your arms sideways.
bdmthrfkr ago
A very perceptive outlook. This is a multi-front assault on all of the most basic Constitutionally protected rights of American citizens. Without the 1st or the 2nd Amendment the other is moot, the two go hand in hand.
Fight for your rights goat, write your Congressman now and if they still pass it vote against the bastard in the 2018 primaries. Oh, and tell your friends about this outrage too, the (((media))) is on lockdown about this thanks to a random (((school shooting))).
Crikes ago
If either is violated, the other goes next.. followed by everything else.
Not that we'd know necessarily.
bdmthrfkr ago
We already know, now we just have to make sure that our wishes are enforced. I didn't mean this post to be a blackpill, I more meant that it is time to get off of our asses and flex some muscle. Go flex and get shit done goat.
pissed ago
Your Republican President/Congress in action.
bdmthrfkr ago
This is bi-partisan so the blame goes to the entire system. Jee, I wonder what could be a systemic problem that our system faces...
Pic related: https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0005/98/1420142904886.jpg
pissed ago
It might be bi-partisan but but the Republicans own the administration, the senate and the house, therefore, the Dem's couldn't do this alone. Jew's are known to be prone to be Dem's.Are you inferring, Jew's own the entire U.S. government, including the President?
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Its time to start honest discussion of expelling jews from America. They are enemies of the constitution.
bdmthrfkr ago
It's anodda shoa!!! Oy vey!!!
Kikes only recognize tribal law as high law, our Constitution means nothing to them. Kikes should never be allowed in positions of power, they don't play by our rule of Law.
mightnotbearobot ago
lol
wundaboiii ago
How does Voat promote sex trafficking? I'm not seeing this site listed in that link either so what am I missing?
bdmthrfkr ago
It doesn't but if anybody wants your site shut down they just spam you with child porn. Then you get shut down and Putt does a jail term.
wundaboiii ago
So is it more fear of someone randomly "attacking" Voat like that to get it shut down more than govt intentionally doing this to target a site like Voat? Because at least from my experience here I don't see why govt would want to target it over other sites. Reddit had Schwartz which created some issues due to his "activism", but AFAIK Voat doesn't have anyone like that.
bdmthrfkr ago
You weren't around about 2 months (ish) ago but the site owner had mentioned that Voat had generated a fair amount of heat from "powerful" people. This place is influential and they are very scared of it, Voat will be targeted if this law passes.
wundaboiii ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2416081/12025518
I don't understand why I'd get downvoted without a response? I do not know why an authority figure would be afraid of Voat, so I'm curious to see the post by the owner as to what Voat was getting "heat" for.
wundaboiii ago
Weird. Any idea what they'd be afraid of? Most of the content I see here is no different than reddit.
Also do you have a link to that submission by the owner? Curiosity, not doubting you.
bdmthrfkr ago
Dude, I am not a helpline with 40 fucking poos manning phones, I tried to answer a fair few of the 100s of comments that this post generated, yours just slipped through the cracks.
Anyways, the content here on Voat is particularly harmful to any globalist forces and policy makers, there are subs here that started on leddit and moved to Voat that are specifically dangerous to the way that the cabal operate and just about all of the people who post here are free thinkers which the media have very little chance of brainwashing like the general population.
Basically, Voat is an extreme danger to the plans of the cabal (you can call them whatever you wish whether that be the Masons or the Illuminati or whatever) and that is why we WILL be targeted for erasure under this fucked up law. The general population can never know the information that we pass around here on Voat, if they did these fuckers will be hung in cities across the globe.
They fear us, that is why they will target us. We know that it is the kikes who are subverting geo-political movements and we aren't afraid to say so and if you think that they won't try to silence any dissent just look at what they did to Mel Gibson.
This is NOT leddit, this is a place where heavy moderation is countered by swift action on the part of the users, we WILL speak our minds here without fear of reprisal and we WILL fight the meme wars out in the space of the normies. Does this answer your question?
wundaboiii ago
Freethinking without action isn't a threat. Reddit frontpage is a meme machine but it has plenty of submissions and discussions that indicate free thinkers being present. Which is why I was asking what sets Voat apart to make it a threat when so far the only thing truly seperating it from Reddit is an activist leader, or any kind of Voat-borne activism at all.
Bigbensbathroomstall ago
There needs to be a contingency in place for voat
OhRutherfordBehave ago
Tweet it out to Paul Nehlen.
Tallest_Skil ago
The guy with no political power who may well be jewish controlled opposition? And who doesn’t have a Twitter account anymore? Great thinking.
OhRutherfordBehave ago
Here's the thing. It can't hurt. There is nothing negative that could come out of doing this. So, you are shilling. You are a low tier shill dude.
Tallest_Skil ago
You’re fairly new to the whole redpill scene, aren’t you.
OhRutherfordBehave ago
Nice you are continuing to low tier shill. Dude, you suck at shilling.
Tallest_Skil ago
Sure do; that’s why I don’t do it. I prefer facts to being paid to post lies.
Nothing you try to do will have any effect on this bill. When it passes, you won’t do a goddamn thing about it. You won’t protest outside your state capitol. You won’t grab your guns. You won’t even stop sending in your taxes to a government which has openly stated its goal is YOUR GENOCIDE. You will let it happen to you. You have let the last century happen to you. Why should this be different? All of this is truth. And the best part is that you’ll call me a shill for speaking the truth. Because that’s what they do, right? Shills tell the truth, do they?
Prove me wrong. Physically do something. Your great grandparents were cucks. Your grandparents were tricked. Your parents were brainwashed and wanted it to happen, so they cheered it on. And so what are you? Are you a man? Will you stand and fight? Or will you lie down and die like a dog?
Good little goy. Run away to your new “decentralized Internet.” Don’t stand your ground. Don’t fight for what you built. Give up all of Africa and Asia to the horde. Then give up Southern Europe and the American southwest. Then open the doors in the north. Allow “hate speech” laws because whites are so racist. Allow affirmative action because whitey keeps them down. Allow opinions to become illegal. Then allow facts to become illegal. And pat yourself on the back all the while. How NICE you are. How KIND you are. How VIRTUOUS you are.
You allow all of this.
Playing the same game as our enemy only ensures their victory. No amount of protesting, whining, complaining, lobbying, investigating, or truth will ever put them out of business. Only cold and ruthless action will.
This will not end until either the Earth is destroyed or they are exterminated down to last man, woman, and child.
If it was as easy as executing a few, appealing to their “good” side through protests, writing laws, or sending a few to prison to get the message across, we wouldn’t be in this position. But now it seems that the only viable option is the only taboo one.
War.
bdmthrfkr ago
Damn good idea, I don't tweet but I hope somebody else here does!
OhRutherfordBehave ago
Exactly. I don't tweet either, he is on Gab if you have that.
YamaMaya ago
This feels like a setup...like the pedo elites want us to stop this bill so (((they))) can continue to traffick children undetected...
bdmthrfkr ago
Too convoluted. They would rather shut down sites which see them for what they are (ahem v/pizzagate) and then they will be free to fuck as many kids as they want.
YamaMaya ago
Its not that convoluted...just bait some useful idiots into setting a precident. Its just a guess though who knows what those scumbags are really up to.
saltpricesplummet ago
Also to point out that this would only target sites where the users generate the content. If you were the site admin would you want to run the risk of this law hitting you? It would cause a lot of sites to shutdown out of fear for what COULD happen to them alone. All the big corporate sites that force feed you what they want you to see will have no repercussions whatsoever.
bdmthrfkr ago
Exactly the point! Will Putt fight the entire U.S. Govt or will he just throw in the towel. I hope that he just moves the servers off-shore again rather than closing.
VoatIsForTimmy ago
Voat does not allow child porn nor does it allow posts that push sex trafficking. I don't see this as an issue as long as random posts by pedo assholes are reported and removed ASAP.
Cuckbot ago
Removed by who?
bdmthrfkr ago
It will all depend on the enforcement of the law. If you are a paranoid bastard like I am then sites which cause certain people problems will get shut down for a single CP image even if it was removed a minute later and sites that certain people like will not be shut down for an entire catalog of under-age smut.
But never fear, the blind lady Justice will be even handed. The scales are balanced and in our system there are no favorites. /s
Womb_Raider ago
This is huge. If we've ever fought for anything, we need to give this our all. If we lose communication, we lose extra-regional capacity.
It is not the fault of the website, it is the fault of the people engaging in misconduct.
bdmthrfkr ago
This is a MASSIVE change to Internet culture and to how the American legal system deals with site owners. If there was ever a law that could most easily target Voat, the Chans or any other future wild wild west type of free speech platform I can't imagine what it could be. ISPs will be next to be sure.
Landrictree ago
reddit would last 10 minutes.
bdmthrfkr ago
Nobody gives a single fuck about leddit, I am only worried about how free speech platforms will be effected.
Hint: it will be a problem for us.
ShinyVoater ago
Please be very careful with this and, before emailing your representative, READ THE DAMN BILL! There's nothing there that sounds malicious, so make sure to make clear that you're not just raging because you were told to rage. I personally used an analogy to SWATing, explained how hiding your IP is drop-dead easy and through in my own version of "think of the children!".
Obeastiality ago
Slippery slope.
bdmthrfkr ago
A very good point, I did ask people to contact their Congressman but I didn't mention to be polite but firm.
Also, to any of you who will be spreading this across platforms please don't make my mistake and please instruct your audience on proper protocol when dealing with an elected official.
Polite but FIRM!
Crikes ago
We need SAFE Net asap. What decentralized alternatives are there? Voat, tell me you're working on solving for this.
saltpricesplummet ago
In the long run I think decentralization with be the only way we will be able to stay alive. Even while we fight this it would probably be worth it to start looking into it.
revfelix ago
Well I guess we know what was being covered up by the school shooting now.
bdmthrfkr ago
I really didn't hear squat about this until today and with everybody looking in the other direction they may just pull it off. This is a fundamental shift in how the American legal system deals with site owners and absolutely NOBODY is talking about it.
Except for us that is. Get this info out on faceburg and twatter if you can, this is the sort of thing which crosses party lines and people need to know about it!
talmoridor-x ago
Your (((congressman))) won't do jack shit. Invest in p2p blockchain web today
PeBeFri ago
I long for the day this cartoon ceases to be relevant.
bdmthrfkr ago
Until the dual citizens in Congress are thrown out this will always be an issue.
Octoclops ago
Nothing good gets bipartisan support.
FattyWhale ago
Feinstein and McCain both support this. It's pretty much certainly bad news.
lexsird ago
Both are rope bait.
bdmthrfkr ago
You can take that to the bank.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
You’ve provided a link to a bill in the Senate and that I can tell it hasn’t moved since last Fall. You have provided a chan image saying the House is voting on Tuesday, but clearly they would need to be voting on either a House bill or a bill that already passed the Senate. Are you at all sure of your information?
bdmthrfkr ago
Actually I haven't looked up what happened to this in the Senate, it may have already passed or it may still be in committee. I only linked to this article because it explains the bill in a concise manner.
The stuff from full-chan, while I haven't had a chance to verify it myself (there is a bit of a news blackout on this bill) I do believe simply because C!Odemonkey (the Admin) confirmed it. You actually have me dead to rights on this but even if the vote isn't on Tuesday this is a bill which they are trying desperately to pass. Maybe you can take a look and find this out?
Thisismyvoatusername ago
Cool. I’ll try to do a little research on it later today.
bdmthrfkr ago
Thanks, I'm busy here in the comments trying to rally the troops or I would go look myself.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
I see a bunch of committee meetings, but no scheduled votes for Tuesday: https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity/2018-02-27
bdmthrfkr ago
FINALLY I found something, but it wasn't easy.
It's called "Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA)" in the House. The fact that so little information is available for such a sweeping change to the regulation of the internet is a massive red flag in and of itself. Keep checking the house calendar though, if the vote isn't for Tuesday as originally stated it will be soon.
t: fucking wkipaedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act
Thisismyvoatusername ago
Excellent. Good find. Thanks.
bdmthrfkr ago
You too!
Thisismyvoatusername ago
So far I’ve determined the Senate bill was added to the calendar for the Committee on Commerce, Science and Technology on January 10 but no subsequent action has yet occurred. I’ll see if I can find the House’s calendar to see what is scheduled for Tuesday. Whatever it is cannot be the Senate bill, though.
2calculated ago
So what? What are you going to do about it?
bdmthrfkr ago
Downvat your shill ass to start.
2calculated ago
Change the world with your downvoats! Amazing!
NeoGoat ago
Most anything is labeled "racist" or "hateful" now.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
If only you'd have had more warning, oh wait....
https://voat.co/v/politics/2269860
And the Shill response... by @Tallest_Skil
Tallest_Skil ago
So you’re defending childfuckers now? Classy.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
You are quite the whimsical fuck.
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for libel. Commit suicide.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
Yes go cry to your boyfriend @puttitout and fuck each others asses while browsing /v/loli.
Tallest_Skil ago
What part of “I want childfuckers dead” was unclear to you exactly? Why are you supporting those who would fuck children as a matter of course, like the Democrat and Republican parties?
voatHatesTheFirst ago
You want child fuckers on voat, I don't.
Go cry to your child fucking buddy puttitout you pedo scum.
Tallest_Skil ago
The reason everyone hates you is probably related to you lying about what they believe.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
The reason we know you and @puttitout fuck each other in the ass while perusing /v/loli is because you defend that garbage at every turn.
Tallest_Skil ago
Okay. Find a post in which I have defended childfuckers. I will wait.
Reported for libel, you fucking kike.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
I just linked one.
Yes, go cry to your butt buddy and continue perusing /v/loli pedo scum.
Tallest_Skil ago
Nope, you didn’t. Reported for libel.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
Many of your posts defend /v/loli, everyone knows that or can easily verify it.
Go cry moar to @putttitout and take some moar dick up the ass from your pedo buddy like the /v/loli loving faggots you are.
Tallest_Skil ago
Post one. I will wait. Reported for libel.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
No need, just look at your history and watch your comments.
Go cry moarrr to your pedo butt buddy putt.
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for libel. At no time have I supported childfuckers.
voatHatesTheFirst ago
Yes go cry moarr to you pedo friend putt, child fucker.
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for libel. ¨
voatHatesTheFirst ago
I'll be laughing my ass of when congress takes away your kiddie porn next week.
Cry moarrr jew pedo.
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for libel. ´
voatHatesTheFirst ago
Keep crying jew pedo scum.
Where will you go to look at new kiddie porn next week? hahahahhaa
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for libel. ˚
tendiesonfloor ago
Won't withstand constitutional muster when put before the SCOTUS.
Tallest_Skil ago
It’s cute that you think the three jew, five ✡catholic✡, one cuck SCOTUS will rule in favor of what the Constitution says when they haven’t in the last century.
bdmthrfkr ago
Sadly, by the time it gets to SCOTUS the damage will have been done.
Koalemos_Grottesco ago
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=aCBwGkorhkQ
Goathole ago
Good fucking luck with that...
"66 cosponsors (41R, 25D)"
Most of the time bills only have 2-3 cosponsors. I'll do my part but in my experience these fucknuts do what they want anyway after they're elected.
bdmthrfkr ago
When this passes make them pay in the 2018 primaries. A lesson must be taught to these faggots.
lord_nougat ago
Almost zero incumbents deserve to be reelected already as it is.
bdmthrfkr ago
Agreed.
Goathole ago
Lol! yeah right. Most people will forget about it by then. Hell, a lot will forget about it by next week.
bdmthrfkr ago
Don't let them, that is what the meme war is about. Eventually almost everybody's favorite site will have either been shut down or FUBARed, that is when you remind them of when it happened using easy to digest pictures. That is also when you remind them of who was responsible for this law, there is always an election around the corner to exploit.
freshmeat ago
Just get rid of deepfake and the pedo subs and we are gravy
whisky_cat ago
I'm curious what a deepfake sub is. I don't know Voat's pedo subs nor want to, but because Voat is incorporated under the laws of the United States, I would expect it to adhere to all US law. For example: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2251
Hypercyberpastelgoth ago
Damn these fuckers mean business. They really are trying to destroy America. There really is going to be serious real life violence soon. Don't turn in your guns go get more guns and bullets now.
Tallest_Skil ago
No, there won’t. No one is going to fight back against any of this, ever.
cm18 ago
The only way to fight is with words, but that's what they're trying to take away. Just look at what youtube.com, and twitter has been doing to those with a conservative voice. Sites like gab.ai will be under pressure to constantly police content. This bill is insidiously subtle to those who just look at the surface reasons. It's basically a move to monopolize the web and shut down alternative sources of discourse.
Tallest_Skil ago
You fucking cuckold. You’re already dead.
Gabbai is jewish controlled opposition. They’re not under any pressure.
And you’ll do fucking nothing to stop it. It’s already monopolized.
telleveryoneyouknow ago
Source re gab?
Tallest_Skil ago
Sure thing. Remember these ✡people✡ love their symbology.
telleveryoneyouknow ago
Ty - these motherfuckers are sly clever sons of bitches
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
Sure seems that way.
sguevar ago
You better don't fuck this up and become full niggerfaggots letting this happen. Otherwise me in Costa Rica won't be able to find a lot of the news and great postings I see here. Thoughen up and start raining those calls!!! I believe in you guys.
We need sites like this in the world, is not only conservatives in the US and Europe that are under siege, is also around the world!!!!
God speed.
bdmthrfkr ago
Amen!
JEW_MEDIA_SILENT ago
please stop inciting riot or innuendo
Octoclops ago
Kill yourself bootlicker.
JEW_MEDIA_SILENT ago
I think you're inciting the actual pedos on this forum. No one cares and this bill does NOT give them the right to shut down voat. And also, they could shut this program down in seconds and no one would know a thing. Half the users are newfags anyhow.
You're silly.
Octoclops ago
Yeah because they always use laws for exactly what they were actually intended for.
You're a cocksucker.
JEW_MEDIA_SILENT ago
No really, you’re silly faggot
Octoclops ago
That's literally what you sound like. I can hear you lisping even through text. Does shareblue really pay you enough to humiliate yourself like this?
JEW_MEDIA_SILENT ago
Hey, can you please pay attention to the post. I'd like to distract you from passing your stupidity onto others. This Post serves as quarantine and containment, hopefully eliminating transgression of your ass smell.
Hypercyberpastelgoth ago
So how do you retards feel about the end of free speech and the internet and fuck faced cunts like Ajit Pai now fucking retards???????????
bdmthrfkr ago
Pai has nothing to do with the legislative process.
Hypercyberpastelgoth ago
Who cares he's an asshole.
ForTheUltimate ago
DarkNet I2P ZeroNet XANET ACTIVATE
mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
TO THE ULTIMATE, WE WILL NOT STOP.
Make voat open source and easy to run. We'll put it out everywhere.
Steemit TM.
cm18 ago
Bullcrap. The darknet is to hard to reach for the average person. Also, over time, they'll slowly demonize the darknet, and because you don't have enough people looking at the internet alternatives, public option will turn against you and criminalize any internet that cannot be monitored.
This is all about consolidating control of the internet into the hands of a few large conglomerates like youtube, facebook, reddit, etc. that can afford to police their content. Alternatives will be put out of business because they cannot afford to hire "moderators". To suppose that the dark net will save us is foolish.
midnightblue1335 ago
"Slowly demonize the darknet"? It's called the fucking dark net- I think we're a long way into the process of demonizing. Should turn into a demon and start speaking tongues any second now...
Tallest_Skil ago
Tor is run by jews. You’re retarded.
ForTheUltimate ago
Isn't it open source?
ShinyVoater ago
Unless and until Tor is forked, it being open source just means more people can contribute.
ForTheUltimate ago
it also means people can verify what they are using, and what it is. Who made it doesn't change what it is.
ShinyVoater ago
This is an empty argument even for most projects and that goes triple for Tor: both its large codebase and involved theoretical background make it unassailable for the average person.
ForTheUltimate ago
I think I can rely on enough good people to check it and sound the alarm.
MESHNET ago
The gov developed the "darknet". Do you really think they don't have more wide open backdoors than a gay pride parade?
You're on the right track though! P2P meshnet development is the answer for now.
auggs ago
Is it possible for a computer scrub to learn networking for peer 2 peer and all that jazz?
the_sharpest_knife ago
Yes. Everyone starts out as a scrub.
clubberlang ago
They gets no love from me
NoBS ago
(in Oriental slur of bastard English) But some can love you back long time.
NeoGoat ago
I was wondering about I2P.
RedditIsForLiberals ago
Is this the spark that ignites the New American Civil War?
Very fucking likely.
If I am a US representative, I'd be shitting my pants right about now, knowing full well that if we attack the 2nd amendment then egregiously attack the 1st, that tens of thousands of patriotic Americans will hunt me down and kill me for treasonous offenses against the Constitution.
almightblackdragon ago
They'll mock it up as "for the children." and any who disagrees with it will be painted as anti moral.
Oveneise ago
I feel like the public is too medicated to rise up. We've got the trues out in the rural areas, but it seems to me most of the folks that live in the city are too fluoridated/soy'd up to give a fuck about any of their rights. I know I'm likely wrong in this but this is the vibe I get from most folks.
WickedVocalist ago
Yes and we thank you for the insolvency and will now be forced to return to the woods, forever.
Oveneise ago
You trippin.
Tallest_Skil ago
You’re delusional. Speech has been restricted for decades. The last century has been nothing but the government violating the Constitution. No one has risen up. No one ever will. Ever.
This isn’t going to happen, dipshit. No one in government is afraid of anything.
MESHNET ago
If those patriotic Americans quit funding psychopaths by quitting their jobs, cutting of the tax flow to the psychopaths, and working directly with their local communities and Nature to meet their needs, government wouldn't be needed and would fade away like a herpes outbreak. They could start p2p meshnets to enable communication outside of the DARPAnet!
drdeadringer ago
This sounds unlikely to happen. For a simple example, it's been known for a few years that people like bread and circuses a little bit more than an entire lifetime fueled by never-ending active violent anger.
MESHNET ago
This study is just one of many examples. Having lived a subsistence life myself, my experiences definitely agree.
http://thinkaboutnow.com/2017/04/study-reveals-why-hunter-gatherers-raise-happier-healthier-children/
drdeadringer ago
Please share more about your subsistence life.
MESHNET ago
Your concept of precivilization life is no longer backed up by science. People that prefer bread and circuses over a lifestyle that's interconnected in a positive way with their communities and Nature are subhuman and need to be eliminated from the gene pool.
drdeadringer ago
Please share what a positive interconnected lifestyle looks like. That one X-Files episode with spider-bots protecting a trailer full of servers? Something else? Paint us pictures.
Besides The Borg from Star Trek, what are your negative examples? Paint us pictures.
Who gets to say who is subhuman? What are the criteria? Who decides on that criteria? Is there a vote on that criteria?
elitch2 ago
Your government has been breaking it's own rules since Washington. Ever heard of the Whiskey Rebellion?
literallyoprah ago
I think it's sad that you actually think this would happen. You're a subhuman, amoral parasite on society, and you would never do anything, why would you expect anyone else to rise up?
L1mb5 ago
@crensh found the jew in this thread
RedditIsForLiberals ago
A leftist anti-American piece of shit already went and shot up a Republican softball practice you stupid motherfucker.
It already DID happen, you projecting liberal filth.
You're the type of person I will take pleasure in killing during the Civil war.
You better enjoy your celebrities, and pop-culture nonsense now, because it'll be gone soon.
Hypercyberpastelgoth ago
look at this too. https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/803bzd/drama_so_brian_crecente_responded_to_our/ they want to ban games and porn and anime and guns and internet and everything we're going full Libya it's the start of a civil war.
Hypercyberpastelgoth ago
I think we need more death threats online against these fucking vampires. Just do it all over shitty reddit so that site gets in trouble. But yeah i think after i read an article on r/kotakuinaction about the crazy ramping up i think they were right and this is going to be the start of civil war because the internet is about to die and the 1A and the 2A. here read it. https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/800t2x/were_about_to_see_peak_double_down_from_the_media/
Solstiare ago
Agent Provocateur sighted.
draaaak ago
What did he say? It's gone now.
BentAxel ago
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/s1693/text
Removes the protection: to websites that facilitate traffickers in advertising the sale of unlawful sex acts with sex trafficking victims.
Maybe I don't see it, above is the actual text, I read it. You can as well. It is targeted at SEX TRAFFICKING sites. Craigslist, Twitter and Facebook has more of an issue with this than Voat should. Are there Cam Whores on Voat trying to get people to buy their shit?
I do see the connection and domino effect but I am also not stupid. This will pass. It's a matter of time. How about we get the degenerates out of Voat and there's no more worry.
Sex Trafficking is for degenerates and losers. I hope the people behind that shit all die by impalement on rusty rebar.
ShinyVoater ago
That's a Senate bill. The one we're talking about is before the House and is just as dangerous as quoted.
BentAxel ago
You linked to the same thing, just not the Government publication H.R. 1865, then there is a submenu of items. Summary, text, actions and related bills. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865/related-bills
This is why I feel it is important to link to the publication directly.
YouveSeenTheButcher ago
All the democrats (or the ADL) have to do is contact one of their human trafficking buddies and have them make a post or a covert human trafficking subverse on Voat. I'd imagine these human traffickers have their own "language" with code words, phrases, and symbols that are unknown to the law abiding, sexually and mentally healthy, humane person. A subverse that many would overlook due to it's obscure nature.
@Puttitout would be fucked and Voat would be shut down.
bdmthrfkr ago
Yep.
playitagainsam ago
It's not about what degenerates are or are not on a website. If law enforcement/trolls/shills want to shut a site down,they could flood it with illegal content, as we sometimes see on Voat from time to time as is. Only difference would be now Putt could be held criminally liable.
But I understand your assertion that this is more targeted towards Craigslist et all.
NewAccountOldGoat ago
I especially like the phrase "parens patriae".
Who's your daddy?
Rotteuxx ago
The /v/DeepFake & /v/facesets sexual degenerates could easily false flag us into CP allegations & the rest would tumble down from there.
CP is directly linked to human trafficking & usually is what law enforcement looks for to get warrants & investigate deeper. It would probably not lead to much unless investigators are compromised but it sure would lead to a load of bullshit for Puttsy to shovel by himself, which I'm sure would please the anti-Voat crowd, rEdditards & powerful folks alike.
duchessofdarkness ago
Have you ever considered jerking off to sites other than voat? It's easy try it.
Rotteuxx ago
Troll harder faggot
telleveryoneyouknow ago
Is there a way to protect voat from false flags? What’s the protocol for reasonable user monitoring? If twitter has 10,000 people looking at dick picks - do they expect the voat community to filter/censor every post? How is this even possible?
cm18 ago
The bill does not even solve the problem, because those willing to engage in sex trafficing will find alternatives, and it will be harder for law enforcement to monitor. Look at how Facebook is used by law enforcement now. Sites that allow freedom of the press make it easier to lul those criminals into a false sense of security and thus catch them. Shut down alternatives like backpage.com, and it makes law enforcement harder.
weezkitty ago
I don't think what /v/DeepFake is doing would actually fall into that category. The biggest problem I see is that feds could deliberately sneak "sex trafficking" content under the radar and then flag the site. This opens a huge hole of abuse which NO site could be reasonably immune
Pwning4Ever ago
Isn't this what /v/pizzagate wanted? Draconian measures to capture all the pedos?
Rotteuxx ago
I guess they might soon learn that a double edged sword can cut in more than one way.
BentAxel ago
While Child Porn is linked, if you read the summary this was started by "Backpage.com" and the ability to pimp out people underage and not. Your point is not lost, I just believe this is less Voat and way more Instagram, Facebook, Craigslist and anywhere else you get trolls getting you to sign up for naked women et. al.
bdmthrfkr ago
Another article mentioned that Backpage had removed all of the sex-trafficking content but the Senator who put forward the bill still mentioned Backpage 6 times directly. Backpage was just a straw-man which means that all sites that (((they))) don't like are in their cross-hairs.
Rotteuxx ago
I agree, but like any law it can be used as a weapon by our ideological opponents even if fruitless in the end... simply to cause grief & try to discourage our admin.
bdmthrfkr ago
I agree with you that the lolis have got to go but it won't help in the end, read the red text. This is their plan:
https://kek.gg/i/4g7_mf.png
i_scream_trucks ago
And who's going ro tell me deepfakes and faggots posting child porn on here is some kind of magical coincidence...
But hey you guys just go right on ahead with what you're doing....
bdmthrfkr ago
Reddit knew this law was in process and purged them but it wouldn't surprise me at all if a little birdie suggested Voat as their new home. Fucking faggots and clowns.
TheKobold ago
Suddenly makes sense why reddit purged all their freaky porn, lolis, and fucked up shit. They probably got a heads up from their CIA masters.
MHole ago
My favorite porn star
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
Cleavage.
Fagtardicus ago
what are you gay or some shit?
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
It's like you're trying to "English", but not quite sure how that works. Have you ever considered attending an educational institution?
Lynch_Tree ago
It's pathetic when people like you try way too hard to seem intelligent.
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
I'm fairly unconcerned by the thoughts and opinions of your peer group.
Lynch_Tree ago
Then why the hell are you here? Go bolster your low self-esteem elsewhere dipshit.
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
Did you miss comma day? You know, some say self-awareness of ones own inadequacies can lead to low self-esteem. If you search on the internet, there are a number of sites that offer free English lessons.
Lynch_Tree ago
You're doing it again. Haha
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
I do it quite often. And in point of fact, I don't lack the ability to condescend; It's simply a behavior that typically fails to appeal.
Fagtardicus ago
so thats a confirm then
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
If you haven't noticed or been told, your communication skills are very poor. If you're okay with that, there's really nothing else to say.
RevanProdigalKnight ago
I for one would absolutely love to work in Silicone Valley.
l_voated_today ago
facebook has the resources to deal with it and is unlikely to be the target of government action, voat on the other hand...
captainstrange ago
Thats the intention. Go after voat, the chans, gab, etc.
tonberry2 ago
Pretty sure this IS the intention of the bill. So long as the rules are overly broad you can use them to target certain sites while ignoring others for doing the same thing.
ScreaminMime ago
Where is our back-up site?
Mickey_Goldfinch ago
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1693
Not sure how they would be able to shut down Voat with this bill, but it would certainly shut down YouTube... sooooo... let me know how Voat is willingly participating in exploitation and trafficking of minors.
bdmthrfkr ago
https://kek.gg/i/4g7_mf.png
Mickey_Goldfinch ago
I gotcha. So, you're thinking (((they))) will set up Voat/8chan to shut it down. Wouldn't that be interesting.
bdmthrfkr ago
Even if all of the sub moderators did nothing all day but delet gay underage porn they would still win by setting up their own subverses. Fucking bastards.
Fathomwild ago
Aha.....ahahahahaha.........ahahahhhahahahhHAhHhHah
0rion ago
Now it makes sense why so many websites have been flooded with CP lately...I knew something seemed off.
drdeadringer ago
What are some examples of these "so many websites"? We must have vastly different browsing habits.
0rion ago
Well Dr. Dead Faggot, I'm glad you asked that question!
For one, we have the FBI running child pornography websites, allowing users to download images to their computers.
For two, child pornography is being spread and shared on social media websites. With the government watching everything we do on the internet, does it not seem odd that this is allowed to happen?
And for three, all I have to say is 4chan.
If you seriously need to be supplied with examples at this point, you clearly have not been paying attention.
drdeadringer ago
I don't go looking for child porn, so I guess since I'm your faggot your presumably of-age anus should suffice.
0rion ago
Good for you. Any more useless interjections, or is this the best rebuttal you could come up with?
drdeadringer ago
It's the best you deserve.
digg- ago
Wow, that's terrible. I need to browse the web more so I know how to avoid those websites.
dooob ago
Pedo jokes dont go well on voat.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Target Acquired
deploying gas
JustPhil ago
Time and a place for jokes mate, time and a place.
HungryCrow ago
He probably wandered in from the Chan's...our poor beloved autists just don't fit in elsewhere.
ShowMeYourKitties ago
The only thing voat traffic's in is @gabara's dickpicks and I'm not even sure it's human.
Dkeere ago
And if I was srs or the government, all it would take would be me to create a couple of alts, a private sub, and start faking trafficking messages. Bam, voat is participating and facilitating trafficking.
ShowMeYourKitties ago
what if SRS is the gubmint
CrustyBeaver52 ago
They are targeting all right wing communications along multiple vectors of attack. Anything to shut us down.
I don't think it will work though. The internet is too robust for that.
wundaboiii ago
Why would "they" want to shut Voat down?
porkings ago
Because Voat users speak da troof about ([(those)} >
bdmthrfkr ago
Unfortunately, while they will never be able to shut it all down they will be able to shut down accessible sites to normies turning us into an echo chamber. You cannot redpill people from the dark web.
DoomMantia ago
> Implying voat is not an echo chamber
CrustyBeaver52 ago
They can certainly make trouble - and likely will for a while - but the government is inefficient at best, on a really good day.
I used to work for them - their offices are filled with almost exclusively dog fuckers.
In fact, dog fucking all day seems to be the number one prerequisite for continued government employment.
I have every faith we can work around whatever comes along.
Of course, better if we can nip this in the bud right now.
bdmthrfkr ago
I was never worried about the dog fuckers, it's the clowns that will try to effectively use their new powers to shape public opinion by performing surgical strikes against sites like ours. We have a chance to get in front of this (I looked around a bit more and the Senate hasn't put this up for a vote on the floor) so now is the time to rally the troops.
Measure twice, cut once. Deal with problems before they are problems.
CrustyBeaver52 ago
Hey, you put in Yeoman's work on this today - good job.
collegetoker ago
Are you sure this legislation isn't meant to Target sites like backpage? They literally have vendors selling people into sex slavery on that site and there were multiple lawsuits by the victims who escaped.
ShinyVoater ago
The fourteenth amendment was written so that only the children of permanent aliens and those with no nationality could become citizens. Now it's being used to justify granting citizenship to anybody who happens to pop out this side of the border.
What something is intended to do and what it will end up doing are two separate things entirely.
middle_path ago
Let's hope it's just nothing. Please be nothing. Oh god, don't take my Voat! Where could we all meet up if this place goes down?
Can we get putt to weigh in on this?
bdmthrfkr ago
I hope he does, it's his neck on the line.
8_billion_eaters ago
VOAT will be shut down. It's inevitable.
...let them.
I am an American.
bdmthrfkr ago
It may be inevitable but this cheap shot shouldn't lead to our demise. It only takes a few minutes to send an email to your Representative, I STRONGLY recommend you to do so.
neverrelaxe ago
Cut off the head and 8 more appear. Tor, i2p, freenet. Good luck jackboots.
cm18 ago
No, dummy. Its about consolidating the regular web into a small number of hands such as youtube.com that can afford to police its content. Its real intent is to control discorse on the internet. You can go to the dark web, but there are two major problems with this. One is that the dark web is hard for the average person to get to, the second is that government has become very adept at rooting out web sites such as drug sites.... so they can and will go after the dark web sites as well... unless they have the money or manpower to police the content on their sites.
This is all about killing any competition to youtube, reddit, and facebook. It's all about consolidation of eyeballs, and thus mind control and power.
WickedVocalist ago
According to Google Voat doesn't exist now since 2015. So what the fuck is the point? I don't give a shit.
There's always another venue. Burn one bridge and it frees up the site to have another. That's all. Nothing lasts forever. Voat is infiltrated anyway by shills.
bdmthrfkr ago
I happen to like our head right where it is.
neverrelaxe ago
This day is coming sooner or later. Begging some suits who live off taxdollars wont help us.
Rotteuxx ago
Back to rEddit faggot
bdmthrfkr ago
Sleeper seems to have hit the delet button. Surprise surprise.
Rotteuxx ago
Unsurprisingly...
NoTrueScotsman ago
A sleeper account telling us not to bother trying to protect our rights? You're not coming across suspicious at all.
neverrelaxe ago
I was trying to say it doesnt matter. Government doesnt give a shit about our rights and we will take them no matter what.
I guess im kinda rooting for this bill to be passed. Id rather have all of my communication on an anonymous platform but there is little conversation there. No one gives a fuck about encryption and this will give them a reason to.
Do what you think is best, call your congressman.
bdmthrfkr ago
Can't hurt either.
Neinlife ago
i would consider that shutting down communication lines and that is the first shot fired
bdmthrfkr ago
Merely proposing this law is the first shot fired, write your Congressman (or let other American friends know about this and have them write) so that we can jog their elbow and make them miss.
rndmvar ago
They already pull this crap now, by pushing pedo shit to public sites, to try and shut them down. This would be their final tool to do it.
hikoo ago
Is this what happened to 4chan when uploading was disabled and they removed the legacy captcha?
prairie ago
They want it to where they just need a shill to post "It's okay to be white" and that be grounds for shutting the site down.
Subtenko ago
So if that appears on cnn or anywhere like buzzfeed......?
bdmthrfkr ago
Before all they could do was use the court of public opinion to punish sites, now they will use actual courts.
goatsandbros ago
If it passes, the autist army is going to have to CP bomb leddit and kikebook hard.
lanre ago
That won't matter when the ceo of reddit is at child diddling parties with these congressmen and puttitout isn't.
HillBoulder ago
This place would be much bigger if he were.
bdmthrfkr ago
Underrated comment.
FuggBenis ago
This, to be honest. What's to stop us from crashing all their planes with no survivors?
lipids ago
selective enforcement.
dellcos ago
Yep. This is why the only proper opinion is to be against every law. They are for you, not them.
CowWithBeef ago
The game is rigged. Compromised sites will be protected. Free sites are the target.
MESHNET ago
No such thing as a "free site" on the DARPAnet!
RedditIsForLiberals ago
Blow up Reddit's server farms then.
bdmthrfkr ago
If this piece of shit passes it will be bad for everybody.
goatsandbros ago
Agreed, and I don't want it to pass at all, but if it does, there's no reason to not make sure everyone enjoys the benefits of a shit law.
RedditIsForLiberals ago
Yup, I expect us to take down every liberal haven on the internet.
goatsandbros ago
Voat is a content aggregator of peace, good sir. The hacker 4chan will most certainly be the only ones.
Just because there are some radical goats here, this doesn't mean we're all evil. #NotAllNiggerfaggots
bdmthrfkr ago
I hadn't heard ANYTHING about this until I saw this:
https://kek.gg/i/4g7_mf.png
This morning. How the fuck did this fly under our radar?!?
voatHatesTheFirst ago
As soon as I heard about this, I started visiting a bunch of smaller sites that relate to a wide-ish variety of topics.
Only one is crying about the fact that that the government is going after pedos.
Voat.
ready-ignite ago
DA's are pushing for this for the power to arbitrarily shake down internet businesses operating within bounds of the law. I suspect it's all a power and money thing to harass companies that do not defer to them, and create another tool to ensure the 'right' companies win and the ones that don't play ball get shaken up. It's building a godamn protection racquet.
Case in point -- Kamala Harris loved this in California. She signed letters to senate requesting holes carved in Section 230 protections, expressing explicit detail understanding of how these protections work in written form. After that documented understanding she would go on to harass and bully companies operating within the bounds of Section 230 protections. For example, she aggressively targeted Backpage going so far as to arrest their CEO without cause who went on to countersue leaving taxpayers on the hook for wrongful arrest damages. The legal case against Backpage documents a company operating completely above board with Section 230 including sample case where a fake illegal position was made to the site, the company notified of the item, the company review and took down the submission thanking the law enforcement agency for bringing it to their attention, within reasonable timeframe defined by Section 230. That was the core argument against the company -- a detailed example of operating a website and handling when illegal content is posted to the site in a timely and reasonable way.
For further reading about Kamala's adventures shaking down lawful businesses Techdirt covered the story over the months, search her name for good detail from a legal perspective.
Another example is the entertainment industries attempted use of DA's to shake down Google. The Sony Hack revealed extensive collusion between entertainment industry officials and DA hassling google, going so far as to draft legal filings on behalf of the DA. Had this hole in Section 230 existed it would provide a sufficiently ambiguous tool as to have effectively shaken down Google at that time.
Then there's the witch hunt of aggressive DA's going after Aaron Schwartz. This is another legal weapon that can be leveled against disruptive visionaries building the next Google, or major online commerce, that upsets the established accepted internet companies.
Can just round up the innovator and harass them ad nauseum. Don't like that competitor? Just hire reputation management team from across the country to bombard their site with links to copyright infringing items. Generate huge costs a small company can't handle and effectively put them out of business. Monopoly 101. Once you're big enough, create trenches of regulation and other hurdles a new smaller company can't climb.
This is an incredibly powerful exemption that can be easily misused by a body of government we've had many examples in recent years of abusing their powers as a shake down technique. This is an area of government that needs a fresh dose of light and fresh air cleaning up the bad actors that have come to inhabit that space. Instead handing over new tools to behave VERY badly for personal profit is a terrible ideas. This creates a lot of incentive to shake down innocent companies on behalf of possible large donors, then run for Senate as the payoff.
bdmthrfkr ago
This isn't just about money at the moment, it is about investing in a strategy which will give them more power (money) in the future. Shut down free speech sites now and when you have total control (again) then you will make ALL of the moneys.
You are right, this is about money (power) but it is also about controlling opposition. These people are sick.
Tallest_Skil ago
Oh, I get it now. You’re the fucking reason /pol/ has gone to shit. Go the fuck back to reddit and cuckchan, you stupid zionist faggot.
GJSmith ago
https://gab.ai/topic/00b699bb-9e6d-415b-95a7-9eebe10988e1
Created a topic on Gab.ai, lets blow it up.
bdmthrfkr ago
Thanks! The more this spreads the more outrage there will be against this outrageous power grab.
You are doing God's work anon, keep it up!
The_Red_Kraken ago
There seems to be no other choice. We need a final solution.
bdmthrfkr ago
If only I could come up with one...
elitch2 ago
...something final...
bdmthrfkr ago
You mean... like a solution?
elitch2 ago
Some sort of final solution...
TheonGreyjoy ago
It even has bipartisan support and no one is talking about it, I'm certain we're fucked.
SHIVASHIVASHIVA ago
This is why the constitution requires the citizens to be armed at the same level or better than the government itself, to overthrow a corrupt and tyrannical state, govern yourselves accordingly.
Dungles ago
That's why no one is talking about it.
MaunaLoona ago
Another word for bipartisan support is collusion between the parties with disregard for their constituents.
ShinyVoater ago
It gets talked about every now and again, but mostly it's supportive. The terrifying parts are all based on the consequences, not the literal wording, so it makes it harder to attack.
Crensch ago
CALM YOUR TITS
Hijacking high-ranked comment for visibility.
bdmthrfkr ago
How the hell is this not all over the news? Oh.
https://kek.gg/i/4tBXr4.jpeg
hikoo ago
It will be after it passes. They don't want the masses questioning it like sopa/pipa.
TheonGreyjoy ago
Remember ICAAN being sold off, how it was too late for anyone to act on it? Same thing is happening here.
bdmthrfkr ago
This is a stab in the back to all American citizens, Americans invented the WWW but for some reason have to give up control of it to unknown and potentially malicious parties. Now that the International problem is sorted they are moving on the pesky 1st Amendment as well right here at home.
I fucking hate these people.
auggs ago
Because meta drama has blasted the front page all weekend. Im an idiot for not picking up on a larger motive. Thought it was strange to fuss about a small subverse
PsyOp ago
Thanks for posting this tableau of all the Jews who work for npr. We need to expose all media companies in this way.
letsgoallthewhey ago
There's another one floating around about CNN. The chart looks pretty much the same.
PsyOp ago
All the ones that I've seen are The New York Times, CNN, NPR, and NBC. It looks to me like the same person is doing them. Let us pray that they keep doing them!
bdmthrfkr ago
I wish it was just NPR.
PsyOp ago
I wish that too...but it ain't, it's every last one of them. The question that needs an answer is where were the FBI, CIA, NSA, FCC, etc., while they were taking control of our media?
voltronsdicks ago
Why are we always scurrying around and playing whack-a-mole every time a new bill comes up instead of taking proactive steps to fight censorship? We shouldn't be going after the bills. We should be focusing on the dangerous leaders who believed that censorship is the answer to the fucked-up Society they've created.
Womb_Raider ago
This is a malicious PDF, do not open. This user relentlessly spams the link.
hafen ago
Politics are important, but I'd also be interested in tech that helps resist censorship in spite of it.
albatrosv15 ago
And trumptard again, who can't see that trump is surrounded by kiketry.
Niggertown ago
Expecting ZOG nigger Trump to help. LOL.
It was his little FCC minion that destroyed Net Neutrality.
facetumor ago
If you took what they were calling "net neutrality" at face value, then you need to get the fuck off reddit
cm18 ago
Attrition. Those that want more and more control are working to exhaust us. They conserve their energy by knowledge of group psychology and having lots of resources to experiment till with. Those of us paying attention are can only do so much, and the rest of the public are to busy trying to keep their homes and jobs to fight this crap.
MESHNET ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2416081/12024443
voltronsdicks ago
The idea is good but the execution is shitty and not well thought-out. It needs more round table discussion for sure. there's still too much room for abuse of power.
MESHNET ago
Once the system is running, it's autonomous. This idea is bulletproof. If you don't see that possibility, you didn't understand or possibly misread something in the post. Find a hole and I will show you how the system as described will plug it.
voltronsdicks ago
No the problem is you misunderstand human nature. your post implies that people are just going to naturally cooperate and facilitate this freedom. If history has taught us anything it's that humans are always the weak link in the equation.
MarcusA ago
Why do you think there was a school shooting last week???
voltronsdicks ago
You forgot your point
Breivik ago
You already know the solution. I can't work out of my jail cell. But you can.
Uncle_Tractor ago
You're not allowed online from you cell, Mr. Fjotolf Hansen. Now be a good little loser and cry about how awful your life is.
Breivik ago
I am allowed, how else would i be posting? Are you angry at me for some reason?
Uncle_Tractor ago
Sint på deg? Nei, du er en tilfeldig anon som vil ha folk til å tro du er en barnemorder. Trist.
Breivik ago
Politiske aktivister er ikke barn: https://imgoat.com/uploads/613985ec49/89065.jpg
Du er en tilfeldig anon som vil ha folk til å tro du er en Tractor. Trist.
Uncle_Tractor ago
15-18 -åringer, nei, ok; ikke barn, tenåringer. Hva slags politisk aktivisme var det de drev med som gjorde at de fortjente å bli drept av den taperen? Veive med noen skilt ute på en øy?
Breivik ago
Se bilde. Gammel nok til å være politisk aktivist = gammel nok til å være et mål for politisk mord. Norge er for nords. Alle andre vil bli fjernet på noen måte nødvendig.
Uncle_Tractor ago
Se liste:
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_over_personer_som_døde_i_terrorangrepet_i_Norge_2011
De som ble drept av helten din (på utøya) var 17-18 år. Igjen; hva var det de drev med som gjorde dem fortjent til å bli drept? Si ting du ikke var enig i? Hva med de som er uenige med deg? Har de rett til å komme etter deg med skytevåpen?
Breivik ago
Betyr alderen så mye? Ville det vært annerledes hvis de var 25 år gammel?
Mitt bilde forklarte hvem de var og hvorfor de måtte dø. Det går utover "uenig" med meg. Hvis du ikke forstår hvor farlig de er og hvor ødeleggende de vil være til vårt land i det lange løp ... så kan jeg ikke hjelpe deg videre, og vil avslutte denne diskusjonen.
Jeg ønsker deg lykke i de kommende løpskrigene over hele Europa og håper at søstrene / døtre ikke blir voldtatt av dyrene som ble sluppet inn i Europa.
Unnskyld meg nå, jeg har fengselsforhold til å delta på.
Uncle_Tractor ago
"Policial muslim"? Hva er det for sproyt? Nei, bildet ditt forklarte ingen ting, annet enn at du er en terrorist-sympatisør. Det er ikke nok å skrive "muslim" og "islamist" under et bilde for å rettferdiggjøre det den taperen gjorde.
Breivik ago
Alt og alt som ikke er europeisk, må utryddes fra Europa.
Men du er åpenbart uenig med dette. Kanskje du ikke er for ren selv?
Uncle_Tractor ago
Den vestlige / europeiske sivilisasjonen er basert på verdiene fra opplysningstiden. De verdiene er det som skiller sivilisasjon og barabari. Dine verdier ligner mer på verdiene til Merkels migranter, til barbarstatene i midtøsten.
Man kan nesten lure på om du i det hele tatt har noe å gjøre her i Europa.
ShitWeasel ago
You aren't Breivik. Faggot.
Breivik ago
I am look at my profile picture. Why are you calling me gay?
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
The solution is known. But we shall see whether we deserve to survive, or not.
bdmthrfkr ago
This.
XAPHAN ago
Double down this.
Dereliction ago
Because almost no one represents our interests in government.
FuckYourSafespace ago
Dual citizenship with Israel. It needs to be stopped. 1488.
dooob ago
Except Paul Nehlen.
goat-ditarod ago
The bulk of the people think the people that represent them are looking out for their best interest. Far from the truth.
Radippo ago
If people thought that there would be more voters. Most people are very cynical, they just don't dwell on it.
Tallest_Skil ago
Fixed.
22jam22 ago
Almost id say you are grosly understatinf how little to no representstion we have while jews, banks and coporate america have 99.9 percent of the control. Im not sure what you would call our current goverment but its not a democracy.
immatureusername ago
It is called a Kleptocracy.
3dk ago
Oligarchy with some democracy.
thatguyiam ago
Its not democracy. Its only democracy when we're dealing with pleb on pleb matters. With regards to plebs vs rich, its another ballgame.
lemon11 ago
That's a given. It's more that the Constitution is not in effect to restrain government.
literallyoprah ago
Because most functional adult human's are Nazi-LARP Pedophiles who got banned from reddit for being so sub-human, even reddit won't tolerate their bullshit.
Expecting a politician to represent Voaters is a fools errand because politicians talk to people and leave their basements.
Schreiber ago
Just stop.
Who's the NAZI here really?
Last I checked it was a bunch of leftards who prevented jews like Milo and Shapiro from giving a fucking speech in school.
If you are not an anti-semitic NAZI you should be supporting jews like Stephen Miller or the Kushners for being jews who didn't ask for white genocide everyday.
But nah, all you care about is white genocide. You just call everybody NAZI if they don't agree with your genocide agenda. But we like traditional culture, and we will never stop until everybody who wants "progress" get purged from the society.
literallyoprah ago
I didn't realize it was "traditional" to furiously masturbate to the idea of an ethnostate you are incapable of contributing value to. I would be worried about you raping a 15 year old and spawning a child, but thankfully you are probably so genetically damaged, the baby would melt into a puddle as soon as it hit air.
This would be much more concerning if you weren't clearly a low value, fat beta incel who never leaves his mom's basement.
You're a faggot pussy and you won't do shit. You will be replaced.
Schreiber ago
Dude, those kinds of people all vote left! Soy boys are literally the poster child for leftist. Look at the fucking world leaders. Progressives are beta soyboys like Trudeau, conservatives are manly like Trump or Putin.
Just use your fucking brain for a sec. These people are non-functioning members of the society and therefore would depend on welfare eventually. And welfare is a leftist policy lmao.
It's funny when you use ad hominem to attack conservatives using "traits" commonly found in leftists.
Normal people who have family and need to pay tax would all logically vote right. But of course you are too dumb to realize that, because you are a dependent beta incel living off gibsmedats.
literallyoprah ago
So why are you voting right incel? Did you marry you animu body pillow? Again, you are low value and if society was a meritocracy, you would be used for fertilizer.
Schreiber ago
just ad hominem attack from negative ccp beta incel lmao.
Libtards like you really need to be purged from earth.
literallyoprah ago
And again: you won;t do shit pussy.
You will be replaced :)
Schreiber ago
You're the pathetic pussy beta incel soyboy.
literallyoprah ago
Nice projection there cuck. Incel status confirmed.
Schreiber ago
That's because I have no idea where you live, you weak, pathetic, soy-boi cuck.
Nice fantasy. Bet you copy pasted that from some online blog.
Yeah, right. I bet you're in prison parole and living off welfare your whole life. How did you end up in prison again? Raping your sister?
Said the weak, pathetic, soy-boi cuck.
literallyoprah ago
Wow, big internet tough guy right here, lol. Fucking pussy.
I like that you think it's a fantasy, like having a job and connecting with women is something magical. Incel status further confirmed.
I would claim projection, but you are far to much of a pussy to ever commit a crime, or even say something edgy to anything darker than Italian,
If this was true, I would still be a better person than you.
Schreiber ago
You're just weak, pathetic, soy-boi cuck calling random stranger on the internet weak, pathetic, soy-boi cuck. You're a fucking sad incel who have no life.
What a pathetic existence.
literallyoprah ago
That's not even projection, now you're straight up defining the evidence of incel status and calling yourself incel. Are you okay? I think I may have triggered you too hard, snowflake.
I;m sorry I hit a nerve with the incel comment. You would feel better if you got fucked, but we both know that;s basically impossible for you/
Having positive CCP on Voat is like getting an endorsement from NAMBLA. I don't want you to like me. I'm better than you.
Schreiber ago
^wow, you're such a talkative soy-boi incel. I can't even be bothered to read wall of texts written by a libtard failure like you.
I'm done with ya. Have a bad day.
literallyoprah ago
Yay, I win!
Suck it!
Schreiber ago
Oh, just shut the fuck up already you pathetic soy-boi incel!
IiteraIIyoprah ago
Wow, I really hit a nerve by calling you an incel, didn't I?
Guess that means I won!
Schreiber ago
I was the one hitting a nerve by calling you an incel.
Guess that means I won!
IiteraIIyoprah ago
I was the one hitting a nerve by calling you an incel.
Guess that means I won!
Schreiber ago
Wow, I really hit a nerve by calling you an incel, didn't I?
Guess that means I won!
IiteraIIyoprah ago
Wow, I really hit a nerve by calling you an incel, didn't I?
Guess that means I won!
Tallest_Skil ago
Slurp chodes, queer.
IiteraIIyoprah ago
Lol, sorry I hurt your feelings you sad-boi beta incel XD
Lag-wagon ago
Don't project to hard. You'll end up hurting your own feelings.
voltronsdicks ago
It's called a rhetorical question.
voltronsdicks ago
Are you fucking retarded or did you not read my reply?
RedditisPropaganda31 ago
relevant: https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2416145