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Election Fraud

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Origins

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With the move to San Francisco came increasing political involvement by the Temple. After the group's participation proved instrumental in the mayoral election victory of George Moscone in 1975, Moscone appointed Jones as the Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.[16] ~ Jones personally met with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale and First Lady Rosalynn Carter. Guests at a large 1976 testimonial dinner for Jones included Governor Jerry Brown, Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally, and Assemblyman Willie Brown, among others.[17]

[48. wiki: George Moscone]:

George Richard Moscone (/mɒˈskoʊneɪ/; November 24, 1929 – November 27, 1978) was an American attorney and Democratic politician. He was the 37th mayor of San Francisco, California from January 1976 until his assassination in November 1978. Moscone served in the California State Senate from 1967 until becoming Mayor. In the Senate, he served as Majority Leader.

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Career

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Mayor of San Francisco

~In 1977 Moscone, Freitas and Hongisto all easily survived a recall election pushed by defeated Moscone opponent John Barbagelata and business interests. That year also marked the passage of the district election system by San Francisco voters. The city's first district elections for Board of Supervisors took place in November 1977. Among those elected were the city's first openly gay Supervisor, Harvey Milk, single mother and attorney Carol Ruth Silver, Chinese-American Gordon Lau and fireman and former police officer Dan White. Milk, Silver, and Lau along with John Molinari and Robert Gonzales made up Moscone's allies on the Board, while Dan White, Dianne Feinstein, Quentin Kopp, Ella Hill Hutch, Lee Dolson, and Ron Pelosi formed a loosely organized coalition to oppose Moscone and his initiatives. Feinstein was elected President of the Board of Supervisors on a 6–5 vote, with Moscone's supporters backing Lau. It was generally believed that Feinstein, having twice lost election to the office of mayor, would support Kopp against Moscone in the 1979 election and retire rather than run for the Board again.

Peoples Temple investigation

Main article: Peoples Temple in San Francisco

In August 1977, after Housing Commission Chairman Jim Jones fled to Jonestown following media scrutiny alleging criminal wrongdoing, Moscone announced his office would not investigate Jones and the Peoples Temple.[11] The later mass murder-suicide at Jonestown dominated national headlines at the time of Moscone's death.[12]

After the tragedy, Temple members revealed to The New York Times that the Temple arranged for "busloads" of members to be bussed in from Redwood Valley to San Francisco to vote in the election.[13] A former Temple member stated that many of those members were not registered to vote in San Francisco, while another former member said "Jones swayed elections."[13] Prior to leaving San Francisco, Jones claimed to have bribed Moscone with sexual favors from female Temple members, including one who was underage; his son, Jim Jones, Jr., later remembered how Moscone frequented Temple parties "with a cocktail in his hand and doing some ass grabbing".[14]

Assassination

Main article: Moscone–Milk assassinations

Late in 1978, Dan White resigned from the Board of Supervisors. His resignation was an indication that Moscone would choose White's successor, and thus could tip the Board's balance of power in Moscone's favor. Recognizing this matter as such, those who supported a more conservative agenda talked White into changing his mind. White then requested that Moscone appoint him to his former seat.

Moscone originally indicated a willingness to reconsider, but more liberal city leaders, including Harvey Milk, lobbied him against the idea, and Moscone ultimately decided not to appoint White. On November 27, 1978, three days after Moscone's 49th birthday, White went to San Francisco City Hall to meet with Moscone and make a final plea for appointment. When Moscone refused to reconsider his decision, White pulled a gun out of his suit jacket and shot and killed Moscone. White then went to Milk's office and shot Milk, killing him as well.

Dianne Feinstein, President of the Board of Supervisors, was sworn in as the city's new mayor and in the following years would emerge as one of California's most prominent politicians.

White later turned himself in at the police station where he was formerly an officer. The term "Twinkie defense" has its origins in the murder trial that followed, in which Dan White was convicted of the lesser crime of manslaughter. White committed suicide in 1985, shortly after his release from prison.

[49. wiki: Moscone–Milk assassinations]

[50. *wiki: Dianne Feinstein]

[51. wiki: Ron Pelosi]:

Ronald Virgil "Ron" Pelosi (born 1934) is an American businessman and public figure in San Francisco, California.

Biography

Pelosi was born in San Francisco in an Italian-American family on November 2, 1934, and was reared in that city. He has a brother, Paul. He earned a bachelor's degree in American history from Stanford University in 1956, the same year he was married to Barbara Newsom in 1956; they were divorced in 1977. He was remarried in 1979, to Susan Ferguson. His children were Carolyn and Cynthia (died 1970), Brennan, Matt Pelosi, Laurence (born 1971) and Andrew (born 1981).

He is the brother-in-law of Nancy Pelosi, minority leader of the U.S. House of Representatives and its former Speaker. He is a former uncle-by-marriage of California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom.

[52. wiki: Nancy Pelosi]

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After the mass suicide

Judy and Patty Houston, the girls about whom Carolyn Layton threatened Joyce Houston not to move for custody at the Sutter Street commune, were also found poisoned.[145] John Stoen, the son of former Assistant District Attorney Timothy Stoen, was found poisoned in Jim Jones's cabin.[145]

Sharon Amos, who had earlier led political pamphletting campaigns in San Francisco, murdered her children with a knife and committed suicide at the Temple's Georgetown, Guyana headquarters (150 miles from Jonestown) at the behest of Jones.[146]

412 unclaimed victims are buried at Evergreen Cemetery, in Oakland, as many of the local members of the church had come from Oakland.[147] A memorial plaque with the names of all victims was placed at the site in 2011, which controversially included the name of Jim Jones, the architect of the mass killing, who is not buried at the cemetery.[148][149]

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Michael Prokes

Michael Prokes, who directed the Temple's relations with several San Francisco politicians and media, survived when he was ordered to deliver a suitcase containing Temple funds to be transferred to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.[154] He committed suicide in March 1979 at a press conference he called.[154] In the days leading up to his death, Prokes sent notes to several people, together with a thirty-page statement he had written about Peoples Temple. Columnist Herb Caen reprinted one copy in his San Francisco Chronicle column.[154]

Influential allies' reactions

After the tragedy, Moscone initially defended his appointment of Jones, stating that, in 1975, Jones' reputation was that of a man who believed in social justice and racial equality, and that there was evidence that the Peoples Temple had initiated programs for drug and alcohol rehabilitation.[22] When asked by a reporter whether he felt in any way culpable for the events, Moscone became angry at the reporter and stated "I'm not taking any responsibility, it's not mine to shoulder."[155]

Milk stated that "Guyana was a great experiment that didn't work. I don't know, maybe it did." [156]

Because Milk and Moscone were both killed by Dan White nine days after the Jonestown tragedy and rumors persisted of purported Temple hit squads seeking to assassinate political figures, many in San Francisco initially believed that the murders of Moscone and Milk were connected to the Temple.[157] No evidence exists that White acted at the behest of Jones or the Temple.

Unlike most other politicians, Willie Brown continued to praise Jones, feeling that attacks on Jones were effectively attacks on the black community.[150][158] Brown initially stated he had "no regrets" over his past association the Temple and that he would not dissociate himself from it like other politicians.[88] "They all like to say, 'Forgive me, I was wrong', but that's bulls—t. It doesn't mean a thing now, it just isn't relevant."[155][158] Brown stated that his decision to speak at the Temple was "not a faulty decision at the time it was made, based on all the object factors at that time."[64] Brown later said "If we knew then he was mad, clearly we wouldn't have appeared with him."[31]

Civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson, who had met with Jones on several occasions,[159] refused to disparage Jones, stating that he still considered Jones to be a man that "worked for the people."[159] Jackson also stated "I would hope that all of the good he did will not be discounted because of this tremendous tragedy." [159] Jackson praised Moscone for "not going on a diatribe against the Peoples Temple" and "blowing the whole thing out of proportion."[159]

What a picture...

Five Finger Death Punch - Burn It Down (Official Audio)

Avatar - The Eagle Has Landed

/micdrop

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Let's see how far we can take this...

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Background

Hughes was born in 1922 in Ida Grove. He married Eva Mercer in August 1941. In 1942, his brother Jesse was killed in a car accident at the age of 23. Hughes and his wife had a daughter in 1942, and shortly afterward Hughes was drafted. He served in the U.S. Army, fighting in the North African campaign, and was court-martialed for assaulting an officer. The trial resulted in his being sent to fight in Sicily in 1943. He became ill and another soldier took his place on a landing craft at Anzio. The craft exploded, killing his replacement and many others.

Hughes' interest in politics was stirred by involvement in the trucking industry. He became a manager of a local trucking business, and then began organizing independent truckers. He started the Iowa Better Trucking Bureau and was eventually elected to the State Commerce Commission, which he served from 1958–1962, including a term as its chairman.

[42. https://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/25/us/harold-hughes-iowa-trucker-turned-politician-dies-at-74.html | archived]:

Harold Hughes, Iowa Trucker Turned Politician, Dies at 74

^{By ERIC PACE OCT. 25, 1996}

Harold E. Hughes, a truck driver who went on to overcome alcoholism and become Governor of Iowa and a Senator, only to quit politics in the mid-1970's and work with alcoholics and religious groups, died yesterday at his home in Glendale, Ariz. He was 74 and moved to Arizona a decade ago.

Mr. Hughes, the last Democrat to be elected Iowa's Governor, died in his sleep and had not been ill, said Peter Wilmert, a spokesman for the Iowa Democratic Party, The Associated Press reported.

Information about the cause of death was not available. The Des Moines Register reported last month that Mr. Hughes was retired and suffering from emphysema and other disabilities.

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His 1941 marriage to Eva Mae Mercer ended in divorce in 1987, and that same year he married a former secretary, Julie Holm.

Again, I'll just say it, I think the CIA & others had motive to assassinate both Leo Ryan & Harold Hughes.

Mercer...

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wiki: L. Ron Hubbard

Lafayette Ronald Hubbard (/ˈhʌbərd/ HUB-ərd;[2] March 13, 1911 – January 24, 1986), often referred to by his initials LRH, was an American author and the founder of the Church of Scientology. After establishing a career as a writer, becoming best known for his science fiction and fantasy stories, he published a "branch of self-help psychology" called Dianetics which was first expounded in book form in May 1950. He subsequently developed his ideas into a wide-ranging set of doctrines and practices as part of a new religious movement that he called Scientology.[3].[4] In 2014, Hubbard was cited by Smithsonian magazine as one of the 100 most significant Americans of all time, as one of eleven religious figures on that list.[5]

https://www.behindthename.com - Lafayette | https://archive.is/Je1IU

Given Name LAFAYETTE

GENDER: Masculine & Feminine

USAGE: English (American, Rare)

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Meaning & History

Taken from the French surname which was derived from Old French la hêtraie "plantation of beech-trees".

In the US, it was first used in the late 1700s as a masculine given name in honor of the Marquis de Lafayette, a hero of the American War of Independence (who also left his name in a city of west-central Indiana on the Wabash River northwest of Indianapolis).

google maps: "Beechtree farm"; Beechtree Farm, Hopewell, NJ

• Clinton & Lebanon: Repeating town/region/city names in suspicious arrangements.
• Mercer Meadows & Mercer County Park: I'm not sure where, but, I feel like I've seen that name in my research before...

**Let's try something else:" Is Scientology established in NJ? Yes; Church of Scientology Mission of New Jersey

google maps: "Directions from Church of Scientology Mission of New Jersey to Beechtree Farm"

• Clinton and Lebanon remain visible; all within ~46 miles or less of each other.

Oh fuck me dead... Plainfield too... (Ed Gein)

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[44. RoC - Part 14: Wizards & Warlocks: comment 7/10]:

^ Note: Beechtree

Who's familiar with Colgan Air Flight 3407?

[9. wiki: Colgan Air Flight 3407]:

Colgan Air Flight 3407, marketed as Continental Connection under a codeshare agreement with Continental Airlines, was a scheduled passenger flight from Newark, New Jersey, to Buffalo, New York, which crashed on February 12, 2009. The aircraft, a Bombardier Dash-8 Q400, entered an aerodynamic stall from which it did not recover and crashed into a house in Clarence Center, New York at 10:17 p.m. EST (03:17 UTC), killing all 49 passengers and crew on board, as well as one person inside the house.[1]

It was the first fatal airline accident in the U.S. since the crash of Comair Flight 5191 in August 2006, with 49 fatalities.

The National Transportation Safety Board conducted the accident investigation and published a final report on February 2, 2010, which found the probable cause to be the pilots' inappropriate response to the stall warnings.[2]

Families of the accident victims lobbied the U.S. Congress to enact more stringent regulations for regional carriers, and to improve the scrutiny of safe operating procedures and the working conditions of pilots. Although it did nothing to address the specific causes of the crash – improper stall recovery technique and pilot fatigue – the Airline Safety and Federal Aviation Administrative Extension Act of 2010 (Public Law 111-216) required some of these regulation changes.[3]

[44: ref 9]:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Obama_and_Beverly_Eckert.jpg

U.S. President Barack Obama shaking hands with Beverly Eckert six days before the accident

Smells like collusion between the CIA, corrupt Democrats & Scientology...

[45. RoC - Part 15: April MOAB: comment 11/20]:

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Business Career

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Entertainment and media

~Bannon was executive chair and co-founder of the Government Accountability Institute, a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization (where he helped orchestrate the publication of Breitbart News senior editor-at-large[76] Peter Schweizer's book Clinton Cash),[56][77] from its founding in 2012 until his departure in August 2016.[78] For the years 2012 through 2015, he received between $81,000 and $100,000 each year; the organization reported that he worked an average of 30 hours per week for the organization.[78] He has also worked as vice president of the board of Cambridge Analytica, a data-analytics firm which allegedly used illegal tactics to target American voters in the 2016 election and is owned largely by the Mercer family,[79] the family that also co-owns Breitbart News.[80]~

Mercer | Breitbart | Bannon | Goldman Sachs | IGE / Affinity Media

[46. RoC - Part 15: April MOAB: comment 20/20] too much to quote, read for more on Mercer/Cambridge Analytica

But wait, there's more...

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Career

State of California

~As a California Assemblyman, Ryan also served as the Chairman of legislative subcommittee hearings and presided over hearings involving his later successor as Congressman, Tom Lantos.[13] Ryan pushed through important educational policies in California and authored what came to be known as the Ryan Act, which established an independent regulatory commission to monitor educational credentialing in the state.[14]

[47. wiki: Tom Lantos]:

Thomas Peter Lantos (born Tamás Péter Lantos; February 1, 1928 – February 11, 2008)[1] was an American politician who served as a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from California, serving from 1981 until his death as the representative from a district that included the northern two-thirds of San Mateo County and a portion of southwestern San Francisco. Lantos had announced in early January 2008 that he would not run for reelection because of cancer of the esophagus,[2][3] but died before finishing his term. A Hungarian-American, Lantos was the only Holocaust survivor to have served in the United States Congress.[4]

In speaking before the House of Representatives after his death, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi stated that Lantos "devoted his public life to shining a bright light on the dark corners of oppression... He used his powerful voice to stir the consciousness of world leaders and the public alike."[5] U2 lead singer Bono called him a "prizefighter", whose stamina would make him go "any amount of rounds, with anyone, anywhere, to protect human rights and common decency".[6]

In 2008, after his death, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus, which he founded in 1983, was renamed the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission. Its mission is partly "to promote, defend and advocate internationally recognized human rights". In 2011, the Tom Lantos Institute was set up in Budapest to promote tolerance and support minority issues in central and eastern Europe and in the world.[7]

Pelosi

Continued ahead in comment 12...

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Politics, Election Fraud & Assassinations (continued)

Let's take a look at some things connected to Leo Ryan, in an attempt to understand possible motive for his assasination.

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Leo Joseph Ryan Jr. (May 5, 1925 – November 18, 1978) was an American teacher and politician. A member of the Democratic Party, he served as the U.S. Representative from California's 11th congressional district from 1973 until his assassination as part of the Jonestown massacre in 1978.

After the Watts Riots of 1965, Assemblyman Ryan took a job as a substitute school teacher to investigate and document conditions in the area. In 1970, he decided to investigate the conditions of California prisons. While presiding as chairman of the Assembly committee that oversaw prison reform, he used a pseudonym to enter Folsom Prison as an inmate. During his time in Congress, Ryan traveled to Newfoundland to investigate the practice of seal hunting. He was also famous for vocal criticism of the lack of Congressional oversight of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and authored the Hughes–Ryan Amendment, passed in 1974.

Ryan was shot and killed at an airstrip in Guyana in November 1978 while his party was attempting to escape a dangerous situation. He had traveled to Guyana to investigate claims that people were being held against their will at the Peoples Temple Jonestown settlement. Ryan was killed the same day of the mass suicide, which occurred just 11 days after he was re-elected for a fourth term. He was the second sitting member of the U.S. House of Representatives to have been assassinated in office, the first being James M. Hinds in 1868.[2][3] He was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal posthumously in 1983.

[40. wiki: Hughes–Ryan Amendment]

So at an immediate glance, it seems as though Leo had a propensity towards actively investigating matters of public interest relating to human rights abuses...

What stands out the most, though, is the Hughes-Ryan Ammendment. Why? Does Hughes ring a bell? Well, it should...

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Career

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United States Congress

During his time in Congress, Ryan went to Newfoundland with James Jeffords to investigate the inhumane killing of seals,[15][16] and he was famous for vocal criticism of the lack of Congressional oversight of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), authoring the Hughes–Ryan Amendment,[17][18] which would have required extensive CIA notification of Congress about planned covert operations.[19][20] Congressman Ryan once told Dick Cheney that leaking a state secret was an appropriate way for a member of Congress to block an "ill-conceived operation".[21] Ryan supported Patricia Hearst, and along with Senator S. I. Hayakawa, delivered Hearst's application for a presidential commutation to the Pardon Attorney.[22]

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The Hughes–Ryan Amendment was an amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, passed as section 32 of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974.[1] The amendment was named for its co-authors, Senator Harold E. Hughes (D-Iowa) and Representative Leo Ryan (D-CA). The amendment required the President of the United States to report all covert actions of the Central Intelligence Agency to one or more Congressional committees.

This amendment addressed the question of CIA and Defense Department covert actions, and prohibited the use of appropriated funds for the conduct of such an action unless and until the President issues an official "Finding" that each such operation is important to national security, and submits this Finding to the appropriate Congressional committees (a total of six committees, at the time, which grew to eight committees after the House and Senate "select committees" on intelligence were established).

The legislation was meant to ensure that the intelligence oversight committees within Congress were told of CIA actions within a reasonable time limit. Senator Hughes, in introducing the legislation in 1973, also saw it as a means of limiting major covert operations by military, intelligence, and national security agents conducted without the full knowledge of the president.

Note: The wiki for Harold E. Hughes is severely lacking in immediately-verifiable references

[41 wiki: Harold E. Hughes]:

Harold Everett Hughes (February 10, 1922 – October 23, 1996) was the 36th Governor of Iowa from 1963 until 1969; he had been a Republican earlier in his life. He also served as a Democratic United States Senator from 1969 until 1975.

We'll come back to the "Hughes" curiosity in a later entry.

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History

By the early years of the 1970s, the unpopular war in Southeast Asia and the unfolding Watergate scandal brought the era of minimal oversight to a halt. The Congress was determined to rein in the Nixon administration, and to ascertain the extent to which the nation's intelligence agencies had been involved in questionable, if not outright illegal, activities. A major stimulus for the amendment came from 1972 and 1973 hearings of the Senate Armed Services Committee on covert military operations in Cambodia, Laos, and North Vietnam in the early 1970s. The committee had found that Air Force and Navy air elements had conducted secret air strikes, and falsified after-action reports to conceal this. To Hughes and several other senators, these activities represented a secret war conducted through back-channel communications from the White House directly to field commanders in the Pacific Theater and the Vietnam War.

A series of troubling revelations appeared in the press concerning intelligence activities. On 22 December 1974, the New York Times published a lengthy article by Seymour Hersh detailing CIA operations that had been dubbed the "family jewels.", including lengthy covert action programs to assassinate foreign leaders and subvert foreign governments. The article also discussed efforts by intelligence agencies to collect information on the political activities of American citizens. These revelations convinced many Senators and Representatives that the Congress had been too lax, trusting, and naive in carrying out its oversight responsibilities.

The first legislative response was enactment, in 1974, of the Hughes–Ryan Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961. The act, as amended, established ultimate accountability of the President for all covert action conducted by the CIA, removing any "plausible deniability" for the President regarding exposed covert actions. It also expanded the circle of "witting" persons in Congress, which made covert operations to which Congress was opposed much more likely to be exposed by leaks. Thus, the passage of the amendment created both de facto and de jure Congressional veto power on covert operations, through the ability to leak and the power of the purse, respectively.

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The Family Jewels is the informal name used to refer to a set of reports that detail activities conducted by the United States Central Intelligence Agency. Considered illegal or inappropriate, these actions were conducted over the span of decades, from the 1950s to the mid-1970s.[1] William Colby, who was the CIA director in the mid-1970s and helped in the compilation of the reports, dubbed them the "skeletons" in the CIA's closet.[1] Most of the documents were publicly released on June 25, 2007, after more than three decades of secrecy.[2][3] The non-governmental National Security Archive had filed a FOIA request fifteen years earlier.[4][2]

Background

The reports that constitute the CIA's "Family Jewels" were commissioned in 1973 by then CIA director James R. Schlesinger, in response to press accounts of CIA involvement in the Watergate scandal—in particular, support to the burglars, E. Howard Hunt and James McCord, both CIA veterans.[1] On May 7, 1973, Schlesinger signed a directive commanding senior officers to compile a report of current or past CIA actions that may have fallen outside the agency's charter.[5] The resulting report, which was in the form of a 693-page loose-leaf book of memos, was passed on to William Colby when he succeeded Schlesinger as Director of Central Intelligence in late 1973.[6]

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Legacy and honors

• In 1983, Ryan was posthumously awarded a Congressional Gold Medal by the United States Congress, as the only member of Congress killed while in the line of duty; the bill was signed by President Ronald Reagan.[51][52] In President Reagan's remarks about the medal, he said: "It was typical of Leo Ryan's concern for his constituents that he would investigate personally the rumors of mistreatment in Jonestown that reportedly affected so many from his district."[51] Ryan's daughters Patricia and Erin had helped to garner support for the Congressional Gold Medal, in time for the fifth anniversary of Ryan's death.[53]
• In 1984, the National Archives and Records Center in San Bruno, California was named the Leo J. Ryan Federal Building in his honor, through a Congressional bill passed unanimously and signed by President Reagan.[54]
• Jackie Speier, Ryan's former aide, was elected in 1998 to the California State Senate. In 2008 she won a special election to the US Congress from California's 12th congressional district, much of it formerly Ryan's constituency.[55] After redistricting, since 2013 it has been designated as the state's 14th congressional district.

Worth noting from the above, I think, is Ronald Reagan's support of Leo Ryan. All things considered RE: Trump and Reagan.

I'm just gonna come out and say it, I smell combined Democrat & CIA motive in the assassination of Leo Ryan - Jonestown was a setup from the jump.

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[36. wiki: Leo Ryan]

Politics, Election Fraud & Assassinations

Leo Ryan(D, CA)

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Events in Jonestown before Ryan visit

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Stoen custody dispute

Main article: Timothy Stoen

In September 1977, former Temple members Tim and Grace Stoen battled in a Georgetown court to produce an order for the Temple to show cause why a final order should not be issued returning their five-year-old son, John.[77] A few days later, a second order was issued for John to be taken into protective custody by authorities.[78] The fear of being held in contempt of the orders caused Jones to set up a false sniper attack upon himself and begin his first series of White Nights, called the "Six Day Siege". During the Siege, Jones spoke to Temple members about attacks from outsiders and had them surround Jonestown with guns and machetes.[79] The rallies took an almost surreal tone as black activists Angela Davis and Huey Newton communicated via radio-telephone to the Jonestown crowd, urging them to hold strong against the "conspiracy."[80] Jones made radio broadcasts stating "we will die unless we are granted freedom from harassment and asylum."[81] Deputy Minister Reid finally assured Marceline Jones that the Guyana Defence Force would not invade Jonestown.[82]

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Concerned Relatives

Main article: Timothy Stoen

Meanwhile, in late 1977 and early 1978, Tim and Grace Stoen participated in meetings with other relatives of Jonestown residents at the home of Jeannie Mills, another Temple defector. Together, they called themselves the "Concerned Relatives."[88] Tim Stoen engaged in letter writing campaigns to the U.S. Secretary of State and the Guyanese government, and traveled to Washington, D.C. to attempt to begin an investigation.[89] In January 1978, Stoen wrote a white paper to Congress detailing his grievances and requesting that congressmen write to Prime Minister Burnham; 91 congressmen wrote such letters, including Congressman Leo Ryan.[90][91]

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Initial investigation

Leo Ryan, who represented California's 11th congressional district, announced that he would visit Jonestown.[102] Ryan was friends with the father of Bob Houston, a Temple member in California whose mutilated body was found near train tracks on October 5, 1976, three days after a taped telephone conversation with Houston's ex-wife in which leaving the Temple was discussed.[103] Over the following months, Ryan's interest was further aroused by the allegations put forth by Stoen, Layton, and the Concerned Relatives.[103]

On November 14, Ryan flew to Jonestown along with a delegation of eighteen people.[104] The group included Ryan; Jackie Speier, then Ryan's legal adviser; Neville Annibourne, representing Guyana's Ministry of Information; Richard Dwyer, Deputy Chief of Mission of the U.S. embassy to Guyana; San Francisco Examiner reporter Tim Reiterman; Examiner photographer Greg Robinson; NBC reporter Don Harris; NBC camera operator Bob Brown; NBC audio technician Steve Sung; NBC producer Bob Flick; Washington Post reporter Charles Krause; San Francisco Chronicle reporter Ron Javers; and Concerned Relatives representatives, including Tim and Grace Stoen, Steve and Anthony Katsaris, Beverly Oliver, Jim Cobb, Sherwin Harris, and Carolyn Houston Boyd.[105]

[37. wiki: Timothy Stoen]

[38. wiki: Jeannie Mills]

[39. wiki: Don Harris]

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Events in Jonestown before Ryan visit

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Visits to Jonestown

~Only Ryan and three others were initially accepted into Jonestown, while the rest of Ryan's group was allowed in after sunset.[110] That night, they attended a musical reception in the pavilion.[111] While the party was received warmly, Jones said he felt like a dying man and ranted about government conspiracies and martyrdom as he decried attacks by the press and his enemies.[62] It was later reported – and verified by audio tapes recovered by investigators – that Jones had run rehearsals on how to convince Ryan's delegation that everyone was happy and in good spirits.[112]

Two Temple members, Vernon Gosney and Monica Bagby, made the first move for defection that night. In the pavilion, Gosney mistook Harris for Ryan and passed him a note, reading, "Dear Congressman, Vernon Gosney and Monica Bagby. Please help us get out of Jonestown."[113]~

~In the early morning of November 18, eleven Temple members sensed danger enough to walk out of Jonestown and all the way to the town of Matthew's Ridge, in the opposite direction from the Port Kaituma airstrip.[115][116] Those defectors included members of the family of Jonestown's head of security, Joe Wilson.[115][117][118][119] When journalists and members of the Concerned Relatives arrived in Jonestown later that day, Marceline Jones gave them a tour of the settlement.[120]

That afternoon, the Parks and the Bogue families, along with in-laws Christopher O'Neal and Harold Cordell, stepped forward and asked to be escorted out of Jonestown by the Ryan delegation.[115][121][122] When Jones' adopted son Johnny attempted to talk Jerry Parks out of leaving, Parks told him, "No way, it's nothing but a communist prison camp."[123] Jones gave the two families, along with Gosney and Bagby, permission to leave.[124] When Harris handed Gosney's note to Jones during an interview in the pavilion, Jones stated that the defectors were lying and wanted to destroy Jonestown.[125]

After a sudden violent rainstorm started, emotional scenes developed between family members.[126] Al Simon, a Native American Temple member, attempted to take two of his children to Ryan to process the requisite paperwork for transfer back to the U.S.[126] Al's wife, Bonnie, summoned on the loudspeakers by Temple staff, loudly denounced her husband.[126] Al pleaded with Bonnie to return to the U.S., but Bonnie rejected his suggestions.[126]

Noteworthy: Don Harris compromised defectors by showing Jim Jones the note he was handed(intended for Leo Ryan), I am unsure if Don had any malicious intent in doing so.

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Events in Jonestown before Ryan visit

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Port Kaituma airstrip shootings

While most of the Ryan delegation began to depart on a large dump truck to the Port Kaituma airstrip, Ryan and Dwyer stayed behind in Jonestown to process any additional defectors. Shortly before the dump truck left, Temple loyalist Larry Layton, the brother of Deborah Layton, demanded to join the group. Several defectors voiced their suspicions about Larry Layton's motives.[128]~

~The entourage had originally scheduled a 19-passenger Twin Otter from Guyana Airways to fly them back to Georgetown. Because of the defectors departing Jonestown, the group grew in number and now an additional aircraft was required. Accordingly, the U.S. embassy arranged for a second plane, a six-passenger Cessna.[131][133] When the entourage reached the airstrip between 4:30 p.m. and 4:45 p.m., the planes had not appeared as scheduled. The group had to wait until the aircraft landed at approximately 5:10 p.m.[131] Then the boarding process began.

Layton was a passenger on the Cessna, the first aircraft to set up for takeoff.[134] After the Cessna had taxied to the far end of the airstrip, he produced a handgun and started shooting at the passengers. He wounded Bagby and Gosney, and tried to kill Dale Parks, who disarmed him.[135]

Meanwhile, some passengers had boarded the larger Twin Otter. A tractor with a trailer attached, driven by members of the Temple's Red Brigade security squad, arrived at the airstrip and approached the Otter.[136] When the tractor neared within approximately 30 feet (9 m) of the aircraft, at a time roughly concurrent with the shootings on the Cessna, the Red Brigade opened fire with shotguns, handguns and rifles while at least two shooters circled the plane on foot.[131] There were perhaps nine shooters whose identities are not all certainly known, but most sources agree that Joe Wilson, Thomas Kice Sr., and Ronnie Dennis were among them.[137]

The first few seconds of the shooting were captured on ENG videotape by NBC cameraman Bob Brown. Brown was killed along with Robinson, Harris, and Temple defector Patricia Parks in the few minutes of shooting. Ryan was killed after being shot more than twenty times. Speier, Sung, Dwyer, Reiterman, and Anthony Katsaris were among the nine injured in and around the Otter. After the shootings, the Cessna's pilot, along with the pilot and co-pilot of the Otter, fled in the Cessna to Georgetown. The damaged Otter and the injured Ryan delegation members were left behind on the airstrip.[138]

We don't need to go into the details of the mass-suicide for this, suffice to say that it is possible that Jim Jones was executed, though also equally possible that he committed suicide. The reason I think execution is plausible, is because ultimately, he had failed to keep the lid on a much darker secret...

What we should explore, is the possibility of a pre-existing motive behind the assissnation of Leo Ryan, aside from Jim Jones wanting to 'protect' Jonestown...

There's not enough room left in this comment;

Continued ahead in comment 10...

(8/12)

[32. wiki: Jonestown]:

The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, better known by its informal name "Jonestown", was a remote settlement established by the Peoples Temple, an American cult under the leadership of reverend Jim Jones, in north Guyana. It became internationally notorious when, on November 18, 1978, a total of 918[1][2] people died in the settlement, at the nearby airstrip in Port Kaituma, and at a Temple-run building in Georgetown, Guyana's capital city. The name of the settlement became synonymous with the incidents at those locations.

909 individuals died in Jonestown,[1] all but two from apparent cyanide poisoning, in an event termed "revolutionary suicide" by Jones and some members on an audio tape of the event and in prior discussions. The poisonings in Jonestown followed the murder of five others by Temple members at Port Kaituma, including United States Congressman Leo Ryan, an act that Jones ordered. Four other Temple members committed murder-suicide in Georgetown at Jones' command.

While some refer to the events in Jonestown as mass suicide, many others, including Jonestown survivors, regard them as mass murder.[3][4] All who drank poison did so under duress, and a third of the victims (304) were minors.[5][6] It was the largest such event in modern history and resulted in the largest single loss of American civilian life in a deliberate act until September 11, 2001.[7]

Origin

Main articles: Peoples Temple, Jim Jones, and Peoples Temple in San Francisco

The Peoples Temple was formed in Indianapolis, Indiana, in 1955.[8] Its roots and teachings shared with biblical church and Christian revival movements, it purported to practice what it called "apostolic socialism".[9][10] In doing so, the Temple preached that "those who remained drugged with the opiate of religion had to be brought to enlightenment — socialism."[11][12] In the early 1960s, Jones visited Guyana – then still a British colony – while on his way to establishing a short-lived Temple mission in Brazil.[13]

After Jones received considerable criticism in Indiana for his integrationist views, the Temple moved to Redwood Valley, California in 1965.[14] In the early 1970s, the Temple opened other branches in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and would eventually move its headquarters to San Francisco.[15]

With the move to San Francisco came increasing political involvement by the Temple. After the group's participation proved instrumental in the mayoral election victory of George Moscone in 1975, Moscone appointed Jones as the Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.[16] Unlike many other figures who are considered cult leaders, Jones enjoyed public support and contact with some of the highest level politicians in the United States. Jones personally met with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale and First Lady Rosalynn Carter. Guests at a large 1976 testimonial dinner for Jones included Governor Jerry Brown, Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally, and Assemblyman Willie Brown, among others.[17]

[33. wiki: Jim Jones]

[34. wiki: Peoples Temple]

[35. wiki: Peoples Temple in San Francisco]

Y'know what? I'm just gonna power through this Jonestown thing in short-hand for now, I'll come back to it later...

"Apocalypse compounding"

A term I feel is fitting for a running theme between Waco, Jonestown & others, the Waco example speaks for itself I think, when looking at what Jonestown ultimately became. I'll skip the morbid details for now, suffice to say that even the popular short understanding of it being merely a suicide cult, is a slight, possibly even vast understatement.

[34]:

In California

Move to California

~Jones preached of an imminent nuclear holocaust, after which the surviving elect would create a new socialist Eden on earth.[3] In 1965, he predicted this would occur on July 15, 1967.[3] Accordingly, Jones preached that the Temple must move to Redwood Valley, California.[3] In July 1965 Jones led approximately 140 members, half of whom were Black, to Redwood Valley, and officially opened his church there.[7][21] The addition of deputy district attorney Timothy Stoen greatly increased the Temple's credibility in the area, quickly increasing membership.[21]

Interesting about Jonestown, though, is a particular sub-element of the overarching religious/cult element.

First, though:

Geography of the "Jonestown Massacre"

(A map with pin-overlays for Jonestown and Gerogetown in Guyana can be seen at [32])

For a better look with more of the picture available

1. California (A): North; Los Angeles, San Francisco("Bay Area"). (B): South; Baja/Gulf - proximity to central America.
2. Region of corruption and suspicious events(see preface) including black magick and clandestine involvement with regards to Waco and Jonestown(Georgetown).
3. Jonestown/Georgetown, Guyana.

Communism/Russia subelements

[34]:

In California

Move to California

Jones returned to Indiana in 1963.[3] While he had always spoken of the social gospel's virtues, Jones did not reveal that his gospel was actually communism until the late 1960s.[3] By then, he was openly revealing in Temple sermons his "apostolic Socialism" concept.[3][20] The concept often loosely mixed tenets of socialism.[note 1] During this period, Jones preached to new members that the Holy Spirit was within them, but that Jones's healing power demonstrated that he was a special manifestation of "Christ the Revolution."[3] He also preached that the United States was the Antichrist and capitalism "the Antichrist system."[3]~

[32]:

Jonestown established

~

Jonestown before mass migration

~Jonestown was held up as a benevolent communist community, with Jones stating: "I believe we're the purest communists there are."[29] Jones' wife, Marceline, described Jonestown as "dedicated to live for socialism, total economic and racial and social equality. We are here living communally."[29] Jones wanted to construct a model community and claimed that Burnham "couldn't rave enough about us, the wonderful things we do, the project, the model of socialism."[30] Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown without his express prior permission.[31]~

[32]:

Jonestown established

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Jonestown life after mass migration

Many members of the Temple believed that Guyana would be, as Jones promised, a paradise or utopia.[41] After Jones arrived, however, Jonestown life significantly changed.[40] Entertaining movies from Georgetown that the settlers had watched were mostly canceled in favor of Soviet propaganda shorts and documentaries on American social problems.[40] Bureaucratic requirements after Jones' arrival sapped labor resources for other needs.[40] Buildings fell into disrepair and weeds encroached on fields.[40] School study and nighttime lectures for adults turned to Jones' discussions about revolution and enemies, with lessons focusing on Soviet alliances, Jones' crises, and the purported "mercenaries" sent by Tim Stoen, who had defected from the Temple and turned against the group.[40]

For the first several months, Temple members worked six days a week, from approximately 6:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., with an hour for lunch.[42] In mid-1978, after Jones' health deteriorated and his wife began managing more of Jonestown's operations, the work week was reduced to eight hours a day for five days a week.[20] After the day's work ended, Temple members would attend several hours of activities in a pavilion, including classes in socialism.[11] Jones compared this schedule to the North Korean system of eight hours of daily work followed by eight hours of study.[43][44] This also comported with the Temple's practice of gradually subjecting its followers to sophisticated mind control and behavior modification techniques borrowed from North Korea and Mao Zedong's China.[45] Jones would often read news and commentary, including items from Radio Moscow and Radio Havana,[46] and was known to side with the Soviets over the Chinese during the Sino-Soviet split.[47]~

~Nothing in the way of film or recorded TV (shown on the commune's closed-circuit system), no matter how innocuous or seemingly politically neutral, could be viewed without a Temple staffer present to "interpret" the material for the viewers. This invariably meant damning criticisms of perceived capitalist propaganda in Western material, and glowing praise for and highlighting of Marxist–Leninist messages in material from Communist nations.[46]

[32]:

Events in Jonestown before Ryan visit

~

Exploring another potential exodus

~On October 2, 1978, Soviet dignitary Feodor Timofeyev visited Jonestown for two days and gave a speech.[87] Jones stated before the speech, "For many years, we have let our sympathies be quite publicly known, that the United States government was not our mother, but that the Soviet Union was our spiritual motherland."[87] Timofeyev opened the speech stating that the Soviet Union would like to send "our deepest and the most sincere greetings to the people of this first socialist and communist community of the United States of America, in Guyana and in the world."[87] Both speeches were met by cheers and applause from the crowd in Jonestown.[87] Following the visit, Temple members met almost weekly with Timofeyev to discuss a potential Soviet exodus.[84]

The relevance of Russian/Soviet/Communist sub-elements, will come into play again in an upcoming ROC entry.

Continue ahead in comment 9...

(7/12)

• Chuck Schumer(D) was involved in the Waco investigation, with commendation from Bill Clinton for using a 14 year old's sexual abuse testimony as a means to shut down criticism of the Clinton administration.[6][16][17] He also expressed support and attempted to promote fundraising, some time before April 2004, for the New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project(NYRWDP, founded/formed in 2003).[1]

[26?. ^ "some time before April 2004" | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27924-2004Mar26.html? | https://archive.is/z6AUO]:

The Reliable Source

^{Hosted by Richard Leiby}

^{Washington Post Staff Writer}

^{Friday, April 2, 2004; 12:00 PM}

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Arlington, Va.: Senator Schumer (N.Y.) recently issued a letter supporting Hubbard's Scientology Narconon Detoxification ...

What is ironic is that Sen D'Amato, whom he defeated for his seat, was a staunch supporter of Scientology's brand of non-profit performance art for hire ... and some attribute D'Amato's demise, in part to his public support for Scientology.

Is Senator Shumer just another 'dupe'?

Richard Leiby: Arlington: The story of Sen. Schumer's endorsement of a Scientology-linked program broke earlier this week in Jeannette Walls's column for MSNBC.com and also was covered in CultNews.com.

Basically it appears that Scientology is using its Narconon "purification" program to "detox" people who may have been exposed to pollutants at Ground Zero in NYC. As Walls wrote: "Senator Charles Schumer and Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney have written letters heaping praise upon the New York Rescue Detoxification Fund, a project that has been working with firefighters and other first-responders who have health problems as a result of 9/11."

Is Chuck Schumer a dupe? Can't say. But he did make the list of "50 Most Loathsome New Yorkers" this week in the New York Press.

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[#27. ^ "covered in CultNews.com" | https://cultnews.com/2004/03/ny-senator-and-congresswoman-shilling-for-scientology/ | https://archive.is/ZJVka]:

Please note that so far, I have been unable to recover Schumer's or Maloney's letters of support - as such, the accuracy of the following claims regarding the exact nature of their support, is yet to be verified.

NY Senator and Congresswoman shilling for Scientology?

^{2004-03-30 [(March 30, 2004)]}

~~Fund raising letters from Senator Schumer and Congresswoman Maloney are now prominently displayed at the NYRWDP website.

The senator says he is “pleased to write in support for the…project.” And acknowledged implicitly that it is based upon “the Hubbard Method of Detoxification,” which Schumer describes as “treatment for ailments believed to be caused by toxins in the air at the site of the World Trade Center bombing.”

Senator Schumer concludes, “I strongly urge you to support the New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Fund and wish them all the success in their future endeavors.”

Maloney’s letter reads, “I want to write to express my support of the…project.” She adds, “With an increase of funding, this program will be able to assist many more September 11th rescue workers that have experienced health problems related to the air quality of ground zero.”

“I admire the work the detoxification program has done, and I strongly support its future endeavors, says Maloney. The congresswoman explains, “The brave rescue workers of New York deserve the best treatment available to address the lingering health effects of this tragedy.”~~

The above mostly acts as a reference for timelining the founding, Schumer's and Maloney's support and Schumer's subsequent retraction of support of NYRWDP after the public started becoming aware of the connection to Scientology.

[#28. ^ "Schumer's subsequent retraction of support" | http://www.buffaloscientologyinfo.com/schumer.html | https://archive.is/6xOAQ]:

Schumer Backs Off Support for Program

^{The Buffalo News}

^{August 6, 2005}

^{By MARK SOMMER}

^{News Staff Reporter}

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-New York, has distanced himself from a statement supporting a controversial detoxification program linked to the Church of Scientology.

The program’s regimen, known as the “Purification Rundown,” was developed by L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology’s founder. The treatment plan – which Scientologists also consider a religious rite – relies on heavy doses of niacin, saunas and exercise rather than traditional medicines.

A number of medical authorities, including former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop, have dismissed the approach, as have local addiction specialists who reviewed supporting documents for a four-part series on Scientology that ran in The Buffalo News earlier this year.

A Schumer spokesman said the senator had not been aware of the Scientology connection when issuing his letter supporting the New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Fund in Manhattan.

“Firefighters and first responders who had experienced 9/11 and toxic exposure during the long recovery process came to us and asked us for support, so our office gave them a boiler-plate letter,” said Eric Schultz, the spokesman.

“We did not know this project had any connection to Scientology. If it proves to be a sham, we won’t support it.”

In addition to Schumer, Reps. Charles B. Rangel, D-New York City; Vito Fossella, R-Staten Island; and Carol McCarthy, D-Long Island, had written letters supporting the project. Fossella and McCarthy have requested $1.5 million in federal dollars for its operation.

Y'know what? I'm calling utter bullshit that Schumer was unaware of the Scientology connection - not based on the report from CultNews, but, on basic logic. Democrats were all over it from the jump and Lopez was even present during the ribbon cutting ceremony of at least one connected building, with Tom Cruise - very public, not to mention that basic inquiry before endorsement would reveal the nature of the program's roots and backers.

There is, of course, another way we can bring Scientology into the Waco picture.

Rick Alan Ross...

Previously discussed: RoC - Annex: Addendum RE: #WHQOPSI: Jim Carrey - comment 5 & comment 6

[29. wiki: Rick Alan Ross]:

Career

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Waco siege

Further information: Waco siege § Role of anti-cult activists

In 1987, Ross deprogrammed two former members of the Branch Davidians in upstate New York, and in 1988 began receiving calls about the Davidian group led by David Koresh in Waco, Texas.[8][20] Ross was the only deprogrammer to work with Branch Davidian members prior to the 1993 siege at Waco.[21] The CBS television network hired Ross as an on-scene analyst for their coverage of the Waco siege and he was consulted by the FBI as well.[8][4][22]

Criticism of government agencies' involvement with Ross has come from Nancy Ammerman, a professor of sociology of religion, who cited FBI interview notes which stated Ross "has a personal hatred for all religious cults". She further stated the BATF and the FBI did rely on Ross when he recommended that agents "attempt to publicly humiliate Koresh, hoping to drive a wedge between him and his followers".[23] Other scholars of religion also criticized Ross' involvement.[20][23][24]

[30. webarchive.org: http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/davidians/ammerman.html]

It is worth noting that Ross recieved a lot of criticism over his involvement with the Waco Siege, much of it quite valid with regards to his approach and the apparent narrow-mindedness of the BATF and FBI - let's face it, Waco was a fuck-up from the very jump(see earlier Rodriguez section). I'll go ahead and even agree that much of Rick Ross's conduct in terms of his deprogramming, is highly questionable and not something that should fly in society. Indeed, Ross almost certainly has mislabeled some movements as being more dangerous than they are, but, referring back to the last time I mentioned him in RoC, regarding his scrape with NXIVM, it would seem that he doesn't always get it wrong at all(see current events and ongoing connections RE: NXIVM).

In no uncertain terms, I feel it is fair to propose the possibility that Scientologists and their affiliates, up to and including Scientology-affiliated entities to arise years later(eg: NXIVM - 1998), have been trying to seize the opportunity to 'take Rick Ross out', 'by any means necessary', due to his work, some of which being the seemingly accurate assessment of dangerous cults. Despite some of the fair criticism Ross recieves, many sources also seem more malicious and rooted in the aforementioned efforts against him.

[31. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/hush-hush-sweet-charlatans-6426159 | https://archive.is/EMZGp] (archived shows full text)

[29]:

Website

~~In April 2004, NXIVM sued unsuccessfully against the Institute in NXIVM Corp. v. Ross Institute, claiming copyright infringement.[37] In June 2004, Landmark Education filed a US$1 million lawsuit against the Institute, alleging that the Institute's online archives damaged Landmark Education's product.[2] In December 2005, Landmark Education filed to dismiss its own lawsuit with prejudice, purportedly on the grounds of a material change in case law after the publication of an opinion in another case, Donato v. Moldow, regarding the Communications Decency Act of 1996.[2]

I'll wrap this up & continue it another time;

Jonestown explored ahead...

(6/12)

[25. wiki: [William and Flora ]Hewlett Foundation]:

Cut for space & emphasis my own.

The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, commonly known as the Hewlett Foundation, is a private foundation, established by Hewlett-Packard cofounder William Redington Hewlett and his wife Flora Lamson Hewlett in 1966.[3] The Hewlett Foundation awards grants to a variety of liberal and progressive causes, as well as conservative organizations. [4][5]

With assets of approximately $9 billion, Hewlett is one of the wealthiest grant makers in the United States.[2][6] The Foundation has grantmaking programs in education, the environment, global development and population, the performing arts, and philanthropy. The Hewlett Foundation is based in Menlo Park, California.

Programs & Grants

~~

International grants tables

~~

The following table lists the all-time top 30 grantees, as recorded in the IATI activities publication.

Organization	Amount(US$ millions)
The National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy	60.2
International Development Research Centre	57.1
Stichting Hivos	28.8
International Planned Parenthood Federation Worldwide Inc.	28.8
Center for Global Development	26.0
Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc.	21.4
Natural Resource Governance Institute	21.0
Ipas	20.4
Regents of the University of California	17.8
Pratham USA	17.4
Brookings Institution	16.9
MSI-US	16.7
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities	16.5
Population Reference Bureau, Inc.	16.4
African Population and Health Research Center Inc	15.1
International Initiative for Impact Evaluation, Inc.	15.0
Guttmacher Institute Inc.	14.9
Bread for the World Institute, Inc.	13.8
Population Council, Inc.	13.0
United Nations Foundation Inc	13.0
Oxfam-America, Inc.	12.7
German Marshall Fund of the US	11.6
Instituto Mexicano para la Competitividad, A.C.	11.5
African Center for Economic Transformation	11.2
Tides Foundation	11.1
Population Action International	10.7
Massachusetts Institute of Technology	9.1
Tides Center	8.6
Center for Reproductive Rights Inc.	8.6
Independent Television Service, Inc.	8.0

Waco | Bill Zeliff(R) & Karen Thurman(D) | Issue One(Reformers Caucus) | Democratic Alliance [| John Podesta | Center for American Progress & Media Matters for America | Color of Change | The Soze Agency | Open Societies Institute | George Soros], Jonathan Soros [| Media Matters for America, Roosevelt Institute, Open Society Foundations, Planned Parenthood, Clinton-Gore] & William and Flora Hewlett Foundation [|Planned Parenthood(The Soze Agency) & Tides Foundation [| People for the American Way(Tony Podesta & Alec Baldwin), Media Matters for America] | George Soros]

Very interesting that we're able to jump from Waco right back to Soros, Podesta and Clinton, through both a Republican and a Democrat, many years later... You can of course bet that Obama is all over this and so too are many others already relevant to the pizzagate-and-corruption-abroad discussion...

Once again I'm inclined to propose that Bill Clinton was gushing over Chuck Schumer in relation to the Waco comittee, because he managed to pull off a "hide in plain sight" play. With the glaring Soros connections all this time later, I feel it's fair to remind everyone of the old "play both sides" tactic, too...

If you have not already read RoC - Part 15: April MOAB, then please be sure to do so at some point, for more information on The Soze Agency and the connections there which align with the above.

Although there's plenty of space left here, I'm going to jump over to the next comment and leave room for updates per the above;

Updates:

^{(space reserved)}

Ahead in comment 7: Waco | Chuck Schumer | Scientology...

(5/12)

Let's see how far we can take this...

Waco | Bill Zeliff(R) & Karen Thurman(D) | Issue One(Reformers Caucus) | Democratic Alliance, Jonathan Soros & William and Flora Hewlett Foundation

[23. wiki: Democracy Alliance]:

Emphasis my own.

The Democracy Alliance is a[1][2][3] network of progressive donors who coordinate their political donations to groups that the Alliance has endorsed.[4]~~

~~The Democracy Alliance planned to spend $374 million during the 2014 midterm election cycle to boost liberal candidates and causes. According to the Democracy Alliance's website, the group "was created to build progressive infrastructure that could help counter the well-funded and sophisticated conservative apparatus in the areas of civic engagement, leadership, media, and ideas."[6]

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History

A PowerPoint presentation, "The Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix", created by Rob Stein and shown to individuals and small groups of donors in 2003 and 2004, is often credited as being the impetus for the group's formation.[7][8]

The first meeting of the Democracy Alliance was held at The Boulders near Scottsdale, Arizona in April 2005. Rob Stein, who created the PowerPoint presentation, "The Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix", was installed as temporary CEO, pending the group's selection of a permanent leader. George Soros, Peter B. Lewis and Tim Gill were all involved in the organization's founding.[9]

At the Democracy Alliance's second meeting, held at the Chateau Elan near Atlanta, Georgia in October 2005, management consultant Judy Wade was installed as the CEO of the organization. At the group's fourth meeting in Miami in November 2006, Wade was replaced with Kelly Craighead.[10][11]

In July 2006, Rob McKay was elected chairman of the board and Anna Burger of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) was elected vice chair.[12]

In 2012, the Democracy Alliance ceased funding a number of prominent progressive organizations. According to the Huffington Post, "The groups dropped by the Democracy Alliance tend to be those that work outside the [Democratic] party's structure." This move cost the Democracy Alliance the support of Soros ally Peter B. Lewis, the billionaire founder of Progressive Auto Insurance.[13]

According to the Huffington Post, the Democracy Alliance "is largely divided into two camps: one that prefers to focus on electing Democrats to office, and another that argues for more attention to movement and progressive infrastructure building in order to create a power center independent of the Democratic Party apparatus."[14]

In 2015, the Democracy Alliance announced a new strategy called "2020 Vision."[9]

The strategy is centered on electing more Democrats to state level offices to build its political influence by 2020. The Democracy Alliance plans to raise more than $500 million over five years to assist more than 30 groups, including organizations focused on battles to increase the minimum wage, oppose voter ID laws, address global warming and reduce the influence of money in elections.[15]

Under its latest strategy, the Democracy Alliance will divide its funding streams into four categories. There are 35 groups funded in these categories.

As of 2015, the Democracy Alliance, which does not disclose its membership, is reported to have about 110 partners who are required to contribute at least $200,000 a year to groups it vets and recommends. Members include Tom Steyer and some of the U.S.'s biggest labor unions.[9]

Personnel

Gara LaMarche is the president of the Democracy Alliance. LaMarche, a longtime progressive activist and close ally of George Soros, assumed the post in 2013. Prior to LaMarche's hiring, Hillary Clinton aide Kelly Craighead led the Alliance. Howard Dean has previously been considered as a potential president for the Democracy Alliance.[14] The board of directors for the Democracy Alliance includes John Stocks, Patricia Bauman, Paul Egerman, Weston Milliken, Gara LaMarche, Mary Kay Henry, David desJardins, Nick Hanauer, Farhad Ebrahimi, Josh Fryday, Keith Mestrich, Fran Rodgers, Susan Sandler and Rob Stein.[16]

Organizations funded

The Alliance recommends a portfolio of progressive organizations that collaborate with each other. In 2014, the Democracy Alliance's “Progressive Infrastructure Map" included 172 organizations, 21 of which were considered core groups. In 2015, the Alliance's funding plans included 35 core organizations. Entities funded by the Democracy Alliance include:[5][17]

• Advancement Project
• America Votes
• American Constitution Society
• Americans for Financial Reform
• Ballot Initiative Strategy Center
• Brennan Center for Justice
• Catalist
• Center for American Progress
• Center for Community Change
• Center for Popular Democracy
• Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
• Color of Change
• Constitutional Accountability Center
• Demos
• Economic Policy Institute
• Issue One
• Leading Green, a joint venture of the League of Conservation Voters and the Natural Resources Defense Council
• Media Matters for America
• National Employment Law Project
• National People's Action
• New Media Ventures
• Organizing for Action
• PICO National Network
• ProgressNow
• Roosevelt Institute
• State Innovation Exchange
• State Voices
• Wellstone Action
• Working America
• Working Families Party

Waco | Bill Zeliff(R) & Karen Thurman(D) | Issue One(Reformers Caucus) | Democratic Alliance [| John Podesta | Center for American Progress & Media Matters for America | Color of Change | The Soze Agency | Open Societies Institute | George Soros], Jonathan Soros & William and Flora Hewlett Foundation

[24. wiki: Jonathan Soros]:

Cut to save space.

Jonathan Tivadar Soros (born September 10, 1970) is the founder and chief executive officer of JS Capital Management LLC, a private investment firm.[1][2] Prior to that, Soros worked at Soros Fund Management in daily operations and was co-deputy chairman of the organization.

He has been a prominent donor to Democratic and progressive political causes.[3][4] He started the Friends of Democracy PAC, now merged into Every Voice, to push for campaign finance reform. He supports the elimination of the electoral college, and multiple matching of small donor donations to inspire citizen participation.

Early life and education

Soros' parents are Annaliese Witschak and business magnate George Soros,[5][6] who divorced in 1981. He is the brother of Andrea and Robert Soros and half-brother of Gregory and Alexander, from his father's second marriage to Susan Weber.[6]~~

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Political advocacy

Campaign reform

~~In July 2012, Soros started and funded Friends of Democracy PAC (now merged into Every Voice), a hybrid political action committee and super PAC designed to push for campaign finance reform that would mandate a public financing system for all federal elections. Soros' organization was described as an "anti-super PAC super PAC" by The Washington Post. Founded with Ilyse Hogue,[b] formerly with Media Matters for America and MoveOn.org, and David Donnelly, executive director of the Public Campaign Action Fund, the goal of the organization is to elect candidates that support campaign reform, including public matching funds for elections.[17]~~

~~He is a member of Democracy Alliance, an organization that funds Democratic campaigns.[24] The American Prospect said of him, "Jonathan Soros has emerged in recent years as a savvy donor and operative, much more hands-on than his father, George, the billionaire investor and Democratic donor."[23]~~

Other groups

Soros has worked with MoveOn.org and other political advocacy groups. He is a senior fellow at the Roosevelt Institute and a member of the board of directors of the New America Foundation and the Open Society Foundations.[26] He is a donor to the Democracy Alliance.[27]

He supports the New York Leadership for Accountable Government, formed about 2012.[28] By March 2013, he supported small donor democracy, in which small-dollar campaign contributions are multiple-matched to increase participation by citizens and donor diversity.[29][c]

He contributed to Hillary Clinton[14] and Martin O'Malley's presidential campaigns in 2015.[30] In 2016, he donated $1 million to the Planned Parenthood Super PAC, which supported the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.[31]

Personal life

Soros married Jennifer Allan, who was a social worker when they met in 1997. The two first met while working for the 1992 Clinton-Gore presidential campaign.[5]~~

Waco | Bill Zeliff(R) & Karen Thurman(D) | Issue One(Reformers Caucus) | Democratic Alliance [| John Podesta | Center for American Progress & Media Matters for America | Color of Change | The Soze Agency | Open Societies Institute | George Soros], Jonathan Soros [| Media Matters for America, Roosevelt Institute, Open Society Foundations, Planned Parenthood, Clinton-Gore] & William and Flora Hewlett Foundation

I've run out of room here for looking at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, we'll have to do so in the next comment;

Continued ahead in comment 6...

(4/12)

[16. [6: ref 22 | archived]: https://archive.is/g0vw3]:

House Investigators Visit Texas To Prepare for Waco Hearings

^{Published: June 28, 1995}

A bipartisan delegation of six House staff members completed a field trip to Texas today in preparation for hearings next month into the two Federal raids on the Branch Davidian sect's compound there in 1993.

The hearings, originally set for the week of July 11, have been pushed back a week, in part because of scheduling conflicts with other House business but also to allow for additional fact-finding.

In Austin on Monday, the team of Congressional staff examined a storehouse of weapons that Federal agents retrieved from the Branch Davidian compound after the second raid there led to a fire that killed some 80 memers of the sect. The weapons, which are being held as evidence until appeals are exhausted in cases resulting from the 51-day standoff between the Davidians and Government agents, include 368 guns and 5 live hand grenades, according to Capt. David Byrnes of the Texas Rangers.

Today the Congressional team visited the compound itself, near Waco.

 

The Congressional staff members are from the offices of Representatives Bill Zeliff of New Hampshire and Bill McCollum of Florida, the two Republicans who will be overseeing the hearings, and Representatives Charles E. Schumer of New York and Karen L. Thurman of Florida, both Democrats.

Some Democrats have criticized plans for the hearings. "It's a shame they're using such a huge amount of resources to appeal to a narrow, paranoid, rather fringe group of Americans who think Waco was a conspiracy," said Mr. Schumer, who has been calling instead for hearings into right-wing paramilitary groups. "They are just throwing a bone to the right wing."

One focal point of the hearings will be the role of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, which led the initial raid, a failed operation that touched off the long and ultimately deadly siege of the compound.

A.T.F. agents may also come under further scrutiny from a House Appropriations subcommittee that has asked the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress, to look into accusations that the agency has harassed gun dealers during inspections and licensing procedures.

• Keep in mind that the Rodriguez article([15]) was published on July 25, 1995; sits here chronologically.

[17. [6: ref 21 | archived]: https://archive.is/9ZXUu]:

Emphasis my own.

In Waco Hearings, Parties Undergo a Role Reversal

^{Published: August 03, 1995}

As the House prepared for high-visibility committee hearings on the 1993 standoff at the Branch Davidian compound in Texas, the Democrats complained that the Republican majority had stacked the witness list to portray the Clinton Administration in the worst possible light.

The Republicans placated the Democrats by telling them they could choose one witness for the hearing's early days. They chose Kiri Jewell.

Kiri, a 14-year-old girl, had little to say about how wisely law-enforcement officials behaved during their assault on the compound of the outside Waco, the ostensible subject of the hearings, which ended on Tuesday. But her graphic testimony of how she was sexually abused by David Koresh, the Branch Davidian leader, enabled the Democrats to shift attention to him.

In the larger political context in which the hearings occurred, the Kiri Jewell testimony was one way the Democrats prevented the Republicans from gaining much traction in their efforts to use the hearings to embarrass the Administration.

By the end of the 10 days of testimony, Representative Bill Zeliff, the New Hampshire Republican who led the offensive against the Administration was complaining in frustration that he was not "a Harvard-educated lawyer." On the other hand, Representative Charles E. Schumer of Brooklyn, who oversaw ran the Democratic strategy, received a congratulatory telephone call from President Clinton.

 

The Republicans also became targets for criticism after disclosures that they had relied on the National Rifle Association for help in preparing for the hearings. The association viewed the hearings as a way to damage the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the agency responsible for enforcing Federal gun laws and the initial February 1993 raid that led to the 51-day siege.

"The problem for the Republicans was in their conception of the hearings," Mr. Schumer said in an interview. "To accomplish what they wanted, they had to make David Koresh a somewhat sympathetic figure."

They also found themselves in the uncomfortable stance of criticizing officials at the firearms agency and the F.B.I., leaving to the Democrats the the more politically delectable position of standing up for law-enforcement officers facing dangerous armed cultists.

On several occasions in the hearings, Representative Howard Coble, Republican of North Carolina, grew red-faced and spluttered with anger that he and his party were being unfairly portrayed as critics of the brave men and women in law enforcement. Representative Bill McCollum, a Florida Republican who was co-chairman of the hearings, felt obliged to note that the Republican members of the committee included people who has been a police officer, a police chief, district attorneys or Federal prosecutors.

All of that emphasizes that such hearings are about theater and image and often, as was the case here, produce little new information.

The most dramatic moments at the hearing were about facts that were already fully public, particularly the much-criticized decision of field commanders from the firearms agency to proceed with the initial raid even though they had been informed that they had lost the element of surprise. A report by the Treasury Department on the disastrous raid in which four firearms officers were killed had already blamed Philip Chojnacki and Chuck Sarabyn, the two field commanders, for failing to heed the information from an undercover agent that the Davidians had learned of the raid 45 minutes before it was to take place.

^ Notes:

• It is worth noting that testimonies have been challenged on the grounds of the questionable nature of conduct by investigators and authorities/persons related to the situation. I will cover that ahead.
• I wonder, though, why & how the Democrats spun Kiri's testimony to help the Clinton administration in the face of Republican criticism...
• Did Bill Clinton congratulate Chuck Schumer, for pulling off a successful "hide in plain sight" play? Possibly...
• Interesting role-reversal indeed, with Democrats "standing up for law-enforcement officers facing dangerous armed cultists", compared with at least the current way of things. Undertones of the gun-laws debate also present. Typical political fodder for these types of situations.
• The hearing produced little new information, yet, Bill Clinton gushed over Chuck Schumer's spin - despite testimony from Robert Rodriguez(explored in [15])

[18. wiki: Bill McCollum]

[19. wiki: Bill Zeliff]

[20. wiki: Howard Coble]

[21. wiki: Karen Thurman]

I'll skip to something which stands out about 2 of the Waco comittee members:

On the running subject/theme of Schumer & Clinton(admn) in Waco, "hide in plain sight", "play both sides" & George Soros/NXIVM/Scientology/etc...

Both Bill Zeliff(R) and Karen Thurman(D) are members of Reformers Caucus of Issue One.[19][21]

[22. wiki: Issue One]:

Issue One is an American nonpartisan, nonprofit organization which seeks to reduce the role of money in politics.[4][5] It aims to increase public awareness of what it views as problems within the present campaign finance system, and to reduce the influence of money in politics through enactment of campaign finance reform.

History

Issue One was formed through the merger of two campaign finance reform organizations: Americans for Campaign Reform and Fund for the Republic.[1]

~~

Fund for the Republic

Fund for the Republic (FFR) was a group formed in late 2012 with the goal of removing the influence of big money in American politics.[8] In 2013, Fund for the Republic co-hosted an event with Democracy Alliance in which it pitched 110 donors on investing in a $40 million plan to combat dark money in American politics. Donors to the Fund for the Republic included Democracy Alliance members Jonathan Soros and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.[8][9] That same year, FFR's affiliated (c)(4) announced plans to fund groups working to defeat politicians who oppose campaign finance reform, while supporting groups backing finance reform politicians.[10]

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Activities

~~

ReFormers Caucus

In 2015, Issue One launched its ReFormers Caucus,[2][16] a "group of former members of Congress, Cabinet officials and governors from both parties committed to restoring trust in our democratic institutions" which, as of March 2018, had 192 members. Members of the ReFormers Caucus include former Secretaries of Defense Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta, and former vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale.

The ReFormers Caucus has proposed increasing civil participation, passing laws that define and regulate the role of money in federal elections and "boosting small donations to campaigns, finding ways to restrict political contributions from lobbyists and unmasking secret contributions made to tax-exempt groups that are active in politics."[2][16]

Continued ahead in comment 5...

(3/12)

With the previous in mind, I want to take a closer look at the Waco investigation and people involved.

Let's start with the theory that Koresh was engaging in sexual abuse of minors at the compound:

• It is known that Koresh admitted to taking child brides in the compound, as expressed in his video cmommunique(s) recorded during the siege and used to communicate with authorities at the time.
• It is known that the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms(BATF) had an informant within the compound for sometime prior to the siege; Robert Rodriguez.
• It is fair to infer that Robert Rodriguez would likely be privy to sexual activity between adults and minors in the compound, if indeed such things were happening.
• It is known that the element of surprise was blown in the hours leading up to the intial raid attempt at Mt Carmel Center, Koresh having been tipped off and communicating his foreknowledge directly to Robert Rodriguez.

The following article RE: Robert Rodriguez, caught my attention.

[15. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/25/us/agent-says-his-warnings-over-waco-were-ignored.html | https://archive.is/xYKQY]:

A version of this article appears in print on July 25, 1995, on Page A00001 of the National edition with the headline: Agent Says His Warnings Over Waco Were Ignored.

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Agent Says His Warnings Over Waco Were Ignored

A Federal undercover officer who infiltrated the Branch Davidian compound testified today that his superiors ignored his warnings that the sect's leader knew Government agents were about to arrest him. Once the agents went ahead with the raid, he said, the deaths of all the sect's members -- and some agents -- were foreordained.

Robert Rodriguez of the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms told two House subcommittees investigating the two botched Federal raids on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Tex., that the leader, David Koresh, vowed that "neither the A.T.F. nor the National Guard will ever get me."

"He turns to me and says: 'They're coming, Robert. The time has come,' " the agent said. "I knew for sure that he knew." And that meant a Federal raid would fulfill the self-styled messiah's vision of Armageddon, he said. The agent fled the compound only an hour before the raid took place to warn his superiors that they were walking into an ambush.

What happened during the next hour involves a fusillade of cover-up charges that reached the highest levels of the firearms agency. The charges were resolved, or so the Clinton Administration thought, by a 500-page Treasury Department report nearly two years ago. But they were revived today by Republicans on the Waco panel, relying largely on testimony from three top A.T.F. officers who lost their jobs as a consequence of the report's findings.

For those unaware, David Koresh became aware of the impending raid after a reporter haphazardly(?) asked a passing postman for directions to the compound while driving around the area. The postal worker happened to be Koresh's brother-in-law, who relayed a warning back to David.[7]

[7]:

February 28

The ATF attempted to execute their search warrant on Sunday morning, February 28, 1993. Any advantage of surprise was lost when a KWTX-TV reporter who had been tipped off about the raid asked for directions from a U.S. Postal Service mail carrier who was coincidentally Koresh's brother-in-law.[22]~

Reading on...

[15]:

Mr. Rodriguez, who is still with the agency and whose account was contained in the report, infiltrated the Branch Davidians posing as a trade-school student named Robert Garcia. He visited the compound eight times in the months before the raid, listened to Mr. Koresh's endless preaching and, more than any other outsider, came to know the sect leader's theology.

Pause again for a moment.

So Robert only visited the compound 8 times and although came to understand Koresh's musings well, still was considered an outsider and may very well have been unaware of child-sexual-abuse occurring in his absence.

Reading on...

Mr. Koresh believed himself to be, among other things, divinely ordained to live out the depiction of the end of the world in the Book of Revelations. He saw himself as the warrior astride a red horse in Revelations, one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, who is given a sword in order "to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another."

A breach in the agency's security gave Mr. Koresh an hour's warning that a raid was imminent on Feb. 28, 1993. Mr. Rodriguez rushed from the compound and called his commander, Chuck Sarabyn, who sat at the other end of the witness table today.

"They know, Chuck, they know," he said he reported in a highly agitated voice. "They know we're coming."

But Mr. Sarabyn and another senior agency official, Phillip Chojnacki, testified today that the warning was too vague to call off the raid; Mr. Koresh always thought the Government was coming to get him, they said. "We didn't know if he meant in the physical sense or the metaphysical sense" on that day, with minutes to go before the raid, Mr. Chojnacki testified.

Both men were dismissed last year after the lengthy Treasury Department report said they had lied about what happened at that moment of decision and tried to blame Mr. Rodriguez for the fiasco. Both were reinstated two months later at desk jobs, stripped on their guns and law-enforcement powers.

"These two men know what I told them," Mr. Rodriguez testified, as Mr. Sarabyn's face turned from white to pink to red and Mr. Chojnacki stared impassively. "They knew exactly what I meant. They lied to the public, and in doing so they just about destroyed a great agency.

"There's no question in my mind that they got the message. I told them what happened inside the compound. I advised them that they knew we were coming, that Koresh knew. I'll remember that, as long as I live, I'll remember those words."

The two officers who were dismissed and reinstated by the firearms agency said a report on the case by a Treasury Department official was filled with scapegoating lies, including accusations that Mr. Sarabyn lied repeatedly to investigators after the shootout. They disputed the report's contention that that senior Treasury officials who oversaw the firearms agency warned field commanders to call off the raid if the element of surprise was lost.

A third officer, Dan Hartnett, who retired as the agency's director for enforcement rather than challenge the report's criticism of his conduct, also criticized the Treasury's report.

Under leading questioning by House Republicans, Mr. Hartnett testified that the secret villain of Waco was a principal author and editor of the scathing report, the assistant Treasury Secretary for enforcement, Ronald K. Noble, a former Federal prosecutor who had not even been sworn into office at the time of the raid. Mr. Hartnett argued that the report itself was a cover-up,

Mr. Noble bluntly rebutted that argument today and rebuffed Republicans who questioned his honesty and judgment by pointing to the report itself.

He pointed out that the only officers who criticized the report were those who were criticized by it and disciplined. He said the report, bluntly and at times brutally critical of top firearms agency officials and Treasury Department procedures, was crucial in Government attempts to restore faith in Federal law-enforcement after Waco. A 51-day siege followed the initial raid in February 1993; the standoff ended after F.B.I. agents used tear gas to attack the compound, which erupted in flames. All the available evidence suggests that the fire was set at Mr. Koresh's orders. About 80 Davidians died.

Many Americans, particularly some affiliated with right-wing paramilitary groups, see Waco as a symbol of Federal tyranny. Representative Bill McCollum, a Florida Republican and co-chairman of the Waco inquiry, said today he would also hold hearings on the paramilitary movement this fall.

John Magaw, the firearms agency director installed after Waco, said structural and procedural changes after the Treasury Department report went a fair distance toward restoring the public reputation of Federal law enforcement. Still, he said, "The fact remains that there has been a critical loss of public confidence in A.T.F."

To rebuild that confidence, he said, he is continuing to make the changes that the report recommended, including making careful contingency plans for potentially dangerous raids, "so that the momentum of going forward does not take control over rational decision-making."

The testimony today suggested that was clearly what happened at the first raid on Waco. Mr. Rodriguez in particular made in plain that the firearms agency played right into the hands of Mr. Koresh, who saw himself as a messenger of God, sent as an avatar to vindicate the faithful and destroy their earthly oppressors.

So, to reiterate(mostly on the grounds of pizzagate relevance), it is entirely possible that Koresh was sexually active with minors, without Robert Rodriguez being aware.

Also noteworthy here, if it was not already known, is Robert's clear warning that the secrecy of the impending raid was compromised.

Remember Chuck Schumer being involved with the 1995 investigation?

Continued ahead in comment 4...

(2/12)

[10. wiki: Davidian Seventh-day Adventist]

[11. wiki: Mount Carmel Center]

I'm going to try to keep this moving as much as possible, but, we still need to note a few more things from the background:

[9]:

Ascent to leadership of the Branch Davidians

In 1983, Koresh began claiming the gift of prophecy. It is speculated by David Thibodeau in his 1999 book, A Place Called Waco, that he had a sexual relationship with Lois Roden, the prophetess and leader of the sect, who was then 65 years old, eventually claiming that God had chosen him to father a child with her, who would be the Chosen One.[4] In 1983, Lois Roden allowed Koresh to begin teaching his own message, called "The Serpent's Root," which caused controversy in the group. Lois Roden's son George Roden intended to be the group's next leader and considered Koresh an interloper.

When Koresh announced that God had instructed him to marry Rachel Jones (who then added Koresh to her name), there was a short period of calm at Mount Carmel Center, but it proved only temporary. In the ensuing power struggle, George Roden, claiming to have the support of the majority of the group, forced Koresh and his group off the property at gunpoint.

In 1985, Koresh and around 25 followers set up camp at Palestine, Texas, 90 miles (140 km) from Waco, where they lived under rough conditions in buses and tents for the next two years, during which time Koresh undertook recruitment of new followers in California, the United Kingdom, Israel and Australia. That same year Koresh traveled to Israel where he claimed he had a vision that he was the modern day Cyrus.

The founder of the Davidian movement, Victor Houteff, wanted to be God's implement and establish the Davidic kingdom in Palestine. Koresh also wanted to be God's tool and set up the Davidic kingdom in Jerusalem. At least until 1990, he believed the place of his martyrdom might be in Israel, but by 1991 he was convinced that his martyrdom would be in the United States. Instead of Israel, he said the prophecies of Daniel would be fulfilled in Waco and that the Mount Carmel Center was the Davidic kingdom.[6]

Pause again...

See it? Emphasis my own:

In 1985, Koresh and around 25 followers set up camp at Palestine, Texas, 90 miles (140 km) from Waco, where they lived under rough conditions in buses and tents for the next two years, during which time Koresh undertook recruitment of new followers in California, the United Kingdom, Israel and Australia. That same year Koresh traveled to Israel where he claimed he had a vision that he was the modern day Cyrus.

• For the leader of a group roughing it in tents and busses, Koresh seems to have found the funds/resources to recruit abroad, even travelling overseas...
• Notice also that Koresh is clearly missing a few screws with regards to the whole Cyrus/Israel/Davidic thing...

Reading on:

After being exiled to the Palestine camp, Koresh and his followers eked out a primitive existence. When Lois Roden died in 1986, the exiled Branch Davidians wondered if they would ever be able to return to Mount Carmel Center. But despite the displacement, "Koresh now enjoyed the loyalty of the majority of the [Branch Davidian] community".[7] By late 1987, George Roden's support was in steep decline. To regain it, he challenged Koresh to a contest to raise the dead, going so far as to exhume a corpse to demonstrate his spiritual supremacy. Koresh went to authorities to file charges against Roden for illegally exhuming a corpse, but was told he would have to show proof (such as a photograph of the corpse).

Koresh seized the opportunity to seek criminal prosecution of Roden by returning to Mount Carmel Center with seven armed followers attempting to get photographic proof of the crime. Koresh's group was discovered by Roden and a gunfight broke out. When the sheriff arrived, Roden had already suffered a minor gunshot wound and was pinned down behind a tree. As a result of the incident, Koresh and his followers were charged with attempted murder. At the trial, Koresh explained that he went to Mount Carmel Center to uncover evidence of criminal disturbance of a corpse by Roden. Koresh's followers were acquitted, and in Koresh's case a mistrial was declared.

In 1989, Roden murdered Wayman Dale Adair with an axe blow to the skull after Adair stated his belief that he (Adair) was the true messiah.[8] Roden was convicted of murder and imprisoned in a psychiatric hospital at Big Spring, Texas. Since Roden owed thousands of dollars in unpaid taxes on Mount Carmel Center, Koresh and his followers were able to raise the money and reclaim the property.

Roden continued to harass the Koresh faction by filing legal papers while imprisoned. When Koresh and his followers reclaimed Mount Carmel Center, they discovered that tenants who had rented from Roden had left behind a methamphetamine laboratory, which Koresh reported to the local police department and asked to have removed.[9][10]

[12. wiki: Lois Roden]:

Lois Irene Scott Roden (August 1, 1916 – November 10, 1986) was a president of the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventist Church, an apocalyptic Christian group which her husband, Benjamin Roden founded. The sect began in Texas in 1955 as a secession from the Shepherd's Rod movement led by Victor T. Houteff, itself a secession from the Seventh-day Adventist Church.[2]

[13. wiki: Benjamin Roden]:

Benjamin Lloyd Roden (January 5, 1902 – October 22, 1978) was an American religious leader and the prime organizer of the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventist Association.[1]

Born in Bearden, Oklahoma, Roden spent his childhood on a farm,[citation needed] graduated from high school,[citation needed] and attended Oklahoma Teachers College. He spent a short time teaching in a country school. For many years he was employed in the oil fields in Oklahoma and in Odessa, Texas. On February 12, 1937, Roden married Lois Irene Scott. They had six children.

[14. wiki: George Roden]:

George Roden (January 17, 1938 – December 6, 1998), was a leader of the Branch Davidian sect, a Seventh-day Adventist splinter group, and the former husband of Amo Bishop Roden. In 1987, he was evicted from the Mount Carmel Center near Waco, Texas by his rival David Koresh.[2] He was later confined in a Texas mental hospital for a 1989 murder, until his own death.

The reason I'm pointing out the Rodens here, is due to the direction Lois's writing was going in, contrasted with Koresh coming along to insert himself and change the direction of the teachings:

[12]:

From 1977 until the death of her husband Benjamin in 1978, she was co-president of the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventist Church along with him. When Benjamin Roden died, Lois remained as the sole lawful president until her death in 1986. Early in her presidency her leadership was challenged by her son, George Roden in a leadership election in 1979, and later (in late 1983) by Vernon Howell a.k.a. David Koresh. Both challengers drew away supporters from the congregation, scaring away others by their reliance on the force of arms to further their aims. Before Koresh challenged her leadership, he and Roden (who was then in her late sixties) had an affair, which Koresh justified by claiming that God had chosen him to father a child with her, who would be the Chosen One.[4]

In 1979, along with publishing many related tracts, Roden began publishing a magazine entitled Shekinah. The magazine explored the issues of the feminine aspect of the Godhead and women in the ministry of the Church. Shekinah magazine contained Lois' commentaries as well as reprints of news articles and excerpts of publications from a variety of Christian, Jewish, and other sources which addressed women's place in the world of religion. She received minor awards and commendations for the magazine from various religious groups and individuals. Among them were an Award of Excellence from Excellence in Media Angel Awards, and another from The Dove Foundation.

Though Roden received some support for her work regarding women's position of equality on earth as it is in heaven, she also received heavy opposition from male-dominated ministries. Some of the strongest of this opposition came from those Church members who left her leadership to follow that of Howell/Koresh. One of his unique teachings was that Lois was no longer to publish her message of a feminine Holy Spirit. In early 1983, the Church's publishing building was destroyed by fire. Reportedly, Koresh later admitted that he had set the fire in order to stop her work. To this day, Koresh's followers abide by his teaching in this regard and refrain from republishing any of her teachings or distributing any of her remaining literature; the same is true with respect to the literature of Lois's husband.

To me, this paints a picture akin to a hostile takeover of the Branch Davidians, by Koresh. Coupled with the pedophilia in Koresh's past, prior to joining up with the Davidians, we can lend a bit of credibility to existing theories that Koresh had likely engaged in more of the same after establishing himself as the owner and leader at the Mt Carmel center in Waco, Texas - after having also effectively silenced the teachings of Lois Roden. As previously stated, what Koresh turned the Branch Davidians into, reminds me strongly of NXIVM in a few ways.

The point here is not necessarily to infer that Koresh was working for anyone other than his own interests, but rather, to point out recurring elements regarding cult-like escapades being capitalized upon by the media and other related corrupt entities.

Continued ahead in comment 3...

(1/12)

Okay, most of us are probably fairly familiar with most of the events surrounding the Waco siege; Let's take a quick look at the background/lead-up, then get into the curious stuff:

[7]:

Background

Main articles: Davidian Seventh-day Adventist, Mount Carmel Center, Branch Davidians, and David Koresh

The Branch Davidians (also known as "The Branch") is a religious group that originated in 1955 from a schism in Shepherd's Rod (Davidians) following the death of the Shepherd's Rod founder Victor Houteff. Houteff founded the Davidians based on his prophecy of an imminent apocalypse involving the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the defeat of the evil armies of "Babylon".[10] As the original Davidian group gained members, its leadership moved the church to a hilltop several miles east of Waco, Texas, which they named Mount Carmel, after a mountain in Israel mentioned in Joshua 19:26 in the Bible's Old Testament. A few years later, they moved again to a much larger site east of the city. In 1959, the widow of Victor Houteff, Florence Houteff, announced that the expected Armageddon was about to take place, and members were told to gather at the center to await this event. Many built houses, others stayed in tents, trucks, or buses, and most sold their possessions.[11]

Following the failure of this prophecy, which many attribute to Mrs. Houteff setting her own private date as to its fulfillment, control of the site (Mount Carmel Center) fell to Benjamin Roden, founder of the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventist Association (Branch Davidians). He promoted different doctrinal beliefs than Victor Houteff's original Davidian Seventh-day Adventist organization. On Roden's death, control fell to his wife, Lois Roden. Lois considered their son, George Roden, unfit to assume the position of prophet. Instead, she groomed Vernon Howell (later known as David Koresh) as her chosen successor. In 1984, a meeting led to a division of the group, with Howell leading one faction (calling themselves the Davidian Branch Davidians) and George Roden leading the competing faction. After this split, George Roden ran Howell and his followers off Mount Carmel. Howell and his group relocated to Palestine, Texas.[12][13]

Okay, pause for a moment...

This should pretty much write itself from here on out, but, here's what I want to point out before we continue reading:

~~As the original Davidian group gained members, its leadership moved the church to a hilltop several miles east of Waco, Texas, which they named Mount Carmel, after a mountain in Israel mentioned in Joshua 19:26 in the Bible's Old Testament.~~

~~In 1984, a meeting led to a division of the group, with Howell leading one faction (calling themselves the Davidian Branch Davidians) and George Roden leading the competing faction. After this split, George Roden ran Howell and his followers off Mount Carmel. Howell and his group relocated to Palestine, Texas.[12][13]

Mount Carmel(Israel)[, Waco, TX] | Palestine[, TX]

Reading on:

After the death of Lois Roden and probate of her estate in January 1987, Howell attempted to gain control of Mount Carmel Center by force. George Roden had dug up the casket of Anna Hughes from the Davidian cemetery and had challenged Howell to a resurrection contest to prove who was the rightful heir to the leadership. Howell instead went to the police and claimed Roden was guilty of corpse abuse, but the county prosecutors refused to file charges without proof. On November 3, 1987, Howell and seven armed companions attempted to access the Mount Carmel chapel, with the goal of photographing the body in the casket as evidence to incriminate Roden. Roden was advised of the interlopers and grabbed an Uzi in response. The Sheriff's Department responded about 20 minutes into the gunfight, during which Roden was wounded. Sheriff Harwell got Howell on the phone and told him to stop shooting and surrender. Howell and his companions, dubbed the "Rodenville Eight" by the media, were tried for attempted murder on April 12, 1988; seven were acquitted, and the jury was hung on Howell's verdict. The county prosecutors did not press the case further.[14]

While waiting for the trial, Roden was put in jail under contempt of court charges because of his use of foul language in some court pleadings, threatening the Texas court with sexually transmitted diseases if the court ruled in favor of Howell. The next day, Perry Jones and a number of Howell's other followers moved from their headquarters in Palestine, Texas, to Mount Carmel. In mid-1989, Roden used an axe to kill a Davidian named Wayman Dale Adair, who visited him to discuss Adair's vision of being God's chosen messiah. He was found guilty under an insanity defense and was committed to a mental hospital. Shortly after Roden's commitment, Howell raised money to pay off all the back taxes on Mount Carmel owed by Roden and took legal control of the property.[15]

On August 5, 1989, Howell released the "New Light" audio tape, in which he stated he had been told by God to procreate with the women in the group to establish a "House of David" of his "special people". This involved separating married couples in the group and agreeing that only he could have sexual relations with the wives, while the men should observe celibacy.[15][16] He also claimed that God had told him to start building an "Army for God" to prepare for the end of days and a salvation for his followers.[16] Howell filed a petition in the California State Superior Court in Pomona on May 15, 1990, to legally change his name "for publicity and business purposes" to David Koresh; on August 28, he was granted the petition.[17] By 1992, most of the land belonging to the group had been sold except for a core 77 acres (31 ha). Most of the buildings had been removed or were being salvaged for construction materials to convert much of the main chapel and a tall water tank into apartments for the resident members of the group. Many of the members of the group had been involved with the Davidians for a few generations, and many had large families.[18]

Internal beef between the Davidian factions aside for bow, it has to be said, that based on the above info & indeed Koresh's own video(taken during the siege), we can see that Koresh was turning the Davidians into something of his own creation with jarring comparisons to NXIVM(albeit without the branding). Considering that the timeframe we're going looking at is approximately 1980 - 1995(at the moment), it's worth asking ourselves "What was NXIVM and/or Scientology up to during this time?"

I won't deviate down that tunnel just yet; for now, let's keep looking at the background of the Waco siege - next is more background on David Koresh:

[9]:

~~Koresh came from a dysfunctional family background and was a member, and later a leader, of the Shepherds Rod, a reform movement led by Victor Houteff that arose from within the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

Koresh joined a spiritual group that was based at the Mount Carmel Center outside Waco, Texas, where the group took the name "Branch Davidians". Here he competed for dominance with another leader named George Roden, until Roden was jailed for murdering another rival.[2]~~

Early life

Koresh was born Vernon Wayne Howell on August 17, 1959 in Houston, Texas, to a 14-year-old single mother, Bonnie Sue Clark (1944–2009)[4] and father Bobby Wayne Howell (1939–2008). Before Koresh was born, his father met another teenage girl and abandoned Bonnie Sue. Koresh never met his father, and his mother began cohabiting with a violent alcoholic.[4]

In 1963, Koresh's mother left her boyfriend and placed her 4-year-old son in the care of his maternal grandmother, Earline Clark. His mother returned when he was seven, after her marriage to a carpenter named Roy Haldeman. Haldeman and Clark had a son together named Roger, who was born in 1966.

Koresh described his early childhood as lonely.[4] Due to his poor study skills and dyslexia, he was put in special education classes and nicknamed "Vernie" by his fellow students.[5] Koresh dropped out of Garland High School in his junior year.

When Koresh was 22 years old, he had sexual relations with a 15-year-old girl who became pregnant.[4] He claimed to have become a born-again Christian in the Southern Baptist Church and soon joined his mother's church, the Seventh-day Adventist Church. There he fell in love with the pastor's daughter and while praying for guidance he opened his eyes and allegedly found the Bible open at Isaiah 34:16, stating that "...none should want for her mate..."; convinced this was a sign from God, he approached the pastor and told him that God wanted him to have his daughter for a wife. The pastor threw him out, and when he continued to persist with his pursuit of the daughter he was expelled from the congregation.[4]

In 1982, he moved to Waco, Texas, where he joined the Branch Davidians, not to be confused with the original Davidian Seventh-day Adventist group. A man named Ben Roden originated the Branch group. Roden had studied under Victor Houteff but upon the death of Houteff in 1955, he formed his own group with new teachings that were not connected with the original Davidians. Koresh played guitar and sang in church services at Mount Carmel Center. His band played a few times at clubs in Waco, and former members (such as David Thibodeau) have written that he recruited them through music.[verification needed] Koresh also tried to pursue his own record company but he was not successful due to lack of funds and support.

Well look at that, Koresh's father was a hump-em-and-dump-em pedophile...

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