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- Looking at the infamous HRC quote, "We came, we saw, he died" & the events which inspired said quote.
- Looking at potential links between the situation in Libya(RE: Muammar Gaddafi) and ties between Clinton/Obama and NXIVM(et al).
- Looking at events and persons peripheral to the Gaddafi assassination, before & after.
Preface
By now most of you are familiar with the time that Hillary R Clinton said, in response to a prompting regarding Libya/Gaddafi, "We came, we saw, he died".
Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died Listen to the very end, the interviewer asks, "Did it have anything to do with your visit?" to which HRC replies(through laughter), "~I'm sure it did", why is this rarely mentioned alongside the infamous quote?
Naturally, the common perception of her saying this, is that she is not only elated by Muammar's death, but, also partially/fully responsible or complicit or otherwise knows exactly who(else?) is involved. If this is the case, it begs the question, "Why did she say this speficially & what did she and/or her allies/constituents stand to gain, by disrupting the course of Libya's development?"
I will attempt to shed some light on this while also discussing potnetial links that NXIVM & associated persons may have to this situation.
Note that I am not at all going to try to condone/defend any crimes which Muammar Gaddafi may be guilty of, the point of this is to outline curiosities and possible collusion involving his assassination and the aftermath thereof.
Some music due to the short preface:
'Ready for the Ride' & 'Hail the Apocalypse' | Avatar - Live @ Metal Hammer Golden Gods 2017
Let's start things off by investigating HRC's choice of words in her infamous laughter-riddled quote, as they related to Muammar's death:
The following is only 18 minutes long and is well worth watching, I will point out the relevant part below.
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Gaddafi Interview (2010): Colonel Gaddafi, former premiere of Libya, is questioned on many topics including terrorism, Palestine and Israel, the Lockerbie bombing and more.~~
~~In this rare interview shot in February 2010 - less than two years before he was killed while hiding in a culvert - Muammar Gaddafi tells presenter George Negus he's always merely represented the will of the people.
Relevance to HRC's quote & attitude:
Starting at 11:52, Negus and Gaddafi discuss Gaddafi's view of America "since Obama has been elected president":
GN: "Do you still believe- do you believe that America is is a dangeorus nation where world pieces is concerned and do you feel any better about America, since Obama has been elected president?"
MG: "Of course, Obama is without a doubt an exceptinoal case. But America is America."
"Obama's term is for a maximum of 8 years."
GN: (Chuckling)"But do you think he should stay forever?"
MG: "I wish, yes."(chuckles after)
GN: "Why do you think he's an exception?"
MG: "His approach, his cultural influence... and his race, being a black African."
GN: "You think his Kenyan descent is important?"
MG: "Of course. He has even Arabic and Islamic roots. And thus his mentality is different to that of the Yankees."
GN: "Alot- alot of Yankees and a lot of Americans would generally be very upset to be reminded that he has Islamic roots."
MG: "Why are they concerned? You see, they are racist."
GN: "Could you work with the man?"
MG: "Of course."
GN: "Do youthink- could you imagine him coming to your country?"
MG: "Not necessary, but it would be good. I'm not asking him to come but if he did, it would be good."
Starting at 13:04, Negus and Gaddafi discuss Gaddafi's idea of democracy, versus that of the west:
GN: "Could I ask you about democracy? Because we use the word, but for people in the west, Libya is not democratic; they see you as a-a- an autocrat, uh almost an absolute monarch. I mean, how- how can you convince people in the west that- that your idea of democracy, which is very different from theirs, is still democracy? No political parties, no opposition..."
MG: "Of course, parties rule there while here the people rule. The solution is for them to come over and see Libya."
Starting at 13:37, Negus attempts to ask what Gaddafi would want written on his gravestone, but, the translator does not want to translate properly(to avoid discussing the prospect of Gaddafi's death) and instead asks Gaddafi what he would want written about him in hundreds of years - Gaddafi laughs at his translator's hesitation after quesitoning him but answers Negus as best he can:
MG to TRANSLATOR: "He used different words."
TRANSLATOR to MG: "Sir, I don't want to say them"
MG: (chuckles)
MG: "No, well, I... What's to be said about me... that I worked for others."
TRANSLATOR to GN: "That I worked for the others. To give service to the others."
MG: "I didn't do anything for myself"
GN to TRANSLATOR: "So, Gaddafi the servant?"
MG: "Perhaps."
One last question at 16:58:
NG: "Um from a man um who is regarded by many in the west, as a- as a fearsome person and a danger to peace and-and- and uh democracy, how do you describe yourself to people who say that? Were we wrong about you?"
MG: "I forgive them, they were ignorant."
Notes:
- Gaddafi and Negus openly discuss Obama's African/Kenyan and Islamic roots:
GN: "You think his Kenyan descent is important?"
MG: "Of course. He has even Arabic and Islamic roots. And thus his mentality is different to that of the Yankees."
- Gadaffi invites Obama/Clinton/Westerners to come over and see Libya:
MG: "Of course, parties rule there while here the people rule. The solution is for them to come over and see Libya."
- Hillary Clinton's responses in interview:
HRC: "We came, we saw, he died"
INTERVIEWER: "Did it have anything to do with your visit?"
HRC: "N- Fine, I'm sure it did"
I wonder why...
Flashback: v/pizzagate - argosciv: RE: Arpaio pardoned by Trump: Let's look at why, shall we? (Posted on Dec 17, 2017)
I've watched the above and their work is amazing, seriously, check it out.
A pardon by President Donald Trump last month has breathed new life into former AZ Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his racist crusade to “prove” the hoax and conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.
Arpaio, 85, promised during a Republican fundraiser in Fresno, CA, on Friday night that he would continue “investigating” birtherism claims. It was an event that many Republican politicians in California steered clear of, probably not because they’re ashamed of their own party, but rather out of concern over their own political futures.
Is it possible that Donald Trump actually pardoned Joe Arpaio, on account of his work(and the work of others) investigating the legitimacy of Barack Obama's birth certificate?
Let's squeeze in a look at Libya and NXIVM
v/pizzagate - @new4now: Sara Bronfman (NXIVM) and Bengazi
Meet Sarah Bronfman's husband~~
~~On the rebound, Sara began dating Basit Igtet, a Libyan exile, and native of Benghazi. Basit’s late father was accused of embezzling millions of dollars from the Qaddafi government and sent to prison. Basit fled to Switzerland and lived in exile for years. He was well mannered, well groomed, articulate and played the part of a well-heeled man, which he wasn’t.~~
Basit Igtet (born 24 September 1970) is a Zurich-based entrepreneur and Libyan national who has founded several companies in various sectors. He became prominent in mid-2011 for his work supporting the Libyan revolution through international lobbying and was consequently appointed as a Special Envoy to the Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) on 4 September 2011 https://alchetron.com/Basit-Igtet
National Transitional Council
was the de facto government of Libya for a period during and after the Libyan Civil War, in which rebel forces overthrew the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya of Muammar Gaddafi
The formation of the NTC was announced in the city of Benghazi on 27 February 2011 with the purpose to act as the "political face of the revolution". On 5 March 2011, the council issued a statement in which it declared itself to be the "only legitimate body representing the people of Libya and the Libyan state
The council gained international recognition as the legitimate governing authority in Libya[8] and occupied the country's seat at the United Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Transitional_Council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basit_Igtet
Personal life
He is married to Sara Bronfman, daughter of billionaire Edgar Bronfman, Sr.; they have one daughter.[8]
Tech N9ne - Aw Yeah? (interVENTion)
/micdrop
new4now ago
there has to be a connection to Sara's husband and the rebels that attacked Bengazi
who replaced Gaddafi after he was murdered?
and what was going on between the death of Gaddafi, Oct 2011 and Sept 11, 2012 ?
it has been said Gaddafi wanted a different money system
I believe what happened in Iraq and Libya, is the same thing they trying to do in Syria, A takeover
I also believe Putin said hell no
so many countries the US went into to change the guard so to speak, people that could be paid off while NGO's went in a raped their countries
talk about interfearing with elections
and The Hildebeast has been there with the takeover of so many countries
NICE JOB
if I come across more, I'll send it your way
poor Basit, he thought he would be King and they pulled the rug from under him
He did what they wanted and they dismissed him
Dude should watch his back
argosciv ago
I should really have gone into at least 1 extra comment, to bring up Benghazi...
^^^
new4now ago
you still can, I'm only one who has commented, will up vote it so it will continue from post
argosciv ago
Already /micdropped lol.
Better to do an addendum entry anyway, as this is gonna pull in a lot of other RoC references... I thought I wouldn't have much for the Benghazi subject... I appear to have surprised myself lol - of course, with major thanks to yourself and others contributing to the subject(s) in question.
Already working on said addendum anyway, main post done, 1st of unknown amount of comments underway too.
RoC: Index / ToC / Overview: Chapter 2:
new4now ago
you might get some info or ideas from this site
I hope :)
https://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.org/2011/09/26/natos-war-on-libya-is-directed-against-china-africom-and-the-threat-to-chinas-national-energy-security/
argosciv ago
I'll put a pin in that one for now lol, another 'case' has come back to my desk, proverbially speaking lol.
Fucking NXIVM, I swear...
new4now ago
its like the gift that keeps giving
some people are getting sick of it, lol
sooner or later, the smoking cannon of NXIVM will be out
new4now ago
sounds good, haven't looked up Bengazi in a bit, so much info coming out
might be just what I need to clear my head, Pizzagate gets real heavy, not that Bengazi wasn't, but a break is needed a long with humor to get through
argosciv ago
Well, there won't be much relief from the heaviness of pizzagate, all being connected and such.
As I've been saying since it was first broken and mentioned here, this NXIVM shit is huge and alongside Scientology and now Libya, it just never ends...
As much flak as I cop for pointing this out, Satanism(et al) was never the problem; it's Scientology and the persons/entities/organizations/cults/businesses associated with and spawned by them.