Description of the project / Collaboration needed
Seth Rich was murdered on October 2016, main stream media strongly pushing a false robbery story (without nothing taken from him). On May 2017, Kim Dotcom, an anonymous New Zealander shared a public statement claiming Seth Rich was involved in a DNC leak on which tens of thousands of emails were delivered from DNC to Wikileaks. Main stream media pushed a Russian leaker story, but in the new light it's very possible that the leaker was actually Seth Rich, debunking both the robbery theory and the Russian theory. This would be a serious issue to the whole main stream media, as they have not included any other options in their "journalistic" efforts. Revealing their fake news, hiding the truth from the public, would probably drop the rest of their trust (currently still at 32% among the U.S. readers) on them being a reliable news media. Most importantly, a murder related to these leaks might play a key part in opening the pizzagate to the big audience.
Collaboration is needed to handle 180 related submissions posted on Voat - This is simply too much for me alone.
What kind of help is especially needed
- To start with, going through a few of these 180 submissions (as many as you prefer, starting from the oldest ones), cherry picking all the most important sourced claims.
- Also, whenever you run into an external source not yet archived, please do archive. This is important
I'd like this collaboration to be organized so that we avoid any duplicate work. I suggest you to pick a date / dates from the source lists and inform other collaborators that you're handling those dates. Let's discuss in comments what's the best way to organize this.
Final goal of the project
Press backgrounder with mostly reliable information to be shared for medias interested on the truth. I think this backgroundrer, gathered from more than a hundred online users here, will be accepted as part of the background investigations by a few journalists in somewhat big medias too, arising awareness
Sources
Invites for collaboration
@Commoner @keepthefaith @Jem777 @Gilderoy @srayzie and as many others as possible
(I picked you 5 seeing you have been active lately on Seth Rich topic, and I can't ping more users in one submission)
anonOpenPress ago
Collection 1 done
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "srayzie" IMPORTANT /v/pizzagate/1868887
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claims by user "V____Z" IMPORTANT ON GIRLFRIEND
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "downtown76" IMPORTANT
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "Mad_As_Hell"
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "Blacksmith21"
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "Are_we_sure" CONTROVERSIAL
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "privatepizza" IMPORTANT
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-18 claim by user "Commoner". Copying this submission here as whole adding just archive links
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-17 claims by user "Blacksmith21"
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-16 IMPORTANT, claims by user "privatepizza" (edited in cooperation with several users)
2017-05-16 claim by user "FoxMcCloud11" and two closely related claims posted by user "1ew":
2017-05-16 claim by user "flyingcuttlefish"
2017-05-16 claim by user "Aloha808"
2017-05-16 claim by user "PedoBasher69" (deleted post)
2017-05-16 claims by user "bobber"
anonOpenPress ago
2017-05-10 claim by user "Aloha808":
anonOpenPress ago
2017-04-13 claim by user "willofthewarrior"
anonOpenPress ago
2017-04-09 zerohedge -- archived -- and disobedient media -- archived also covered the claim below
2017-04-08 checking a submission by user "quantokitty"
anonOpenPress ago
2017-03-05 claims from a deleted post (originally submitted by user "Truthisadare")
anonOpenPress ago
2017-02-xx No related, sourced claims posted on February (edit: January is also done), let's move on to March.
anonOpenPress ago
2017-01-19 user Snailracer claim:
anonOpenPress ago
2017-01-05 user Ideliverpizza claims that there was a removed video on YouTube including:
User Koched_Up404 joins the claim adding that
User AreWeSure comments the claim on the distance, using Google Maps as his source:
anonOpenPress ago
2017-01-03 Trumpedupeconomics claims it's Seth Rich's birthday, and shares the following 4 sourced claims:
Bluebirdsolitude ago
I want to help. I came of age before cell phones or computers so I'm kind of an internet dummy. That said, I remember the fear in my heart for my children when Bill the Rapist was elected President and the Clintons gained power. Those fears werent wrong, were they? I have no clue what I'm doing, but I will do my best, so if I post sonething wrong, please tell me. I'm not afraid of constructive criticism.
anonOpenPress ago
Thanks and welcome! Just start, in any way you find yourself being helpful, and if it goes against the idea I'll share some of that "constructive criticism" back :) The comments beginning with a date are nice examples. of what's done already. You can find Sort by "New" in top of the comments section to find the latest adds.
anonOpenPress ago
2016-12-22 IMPORTANT re journalism, being very well sourced
Chain of sources:
anonOpenPress ago
2016-12-20, Top Leads From FBI ANON 1-7
Original source -- related Voat sources: 1 2 3 4
anonOpenPress ago
2016-12-15
Note. "False Claim" might still be true or lie. Neither source does not exactly exclude Seth Rich being the leak. It's false because it's different from what the shared source says. One could also say "unsourced claim", but as there is a source in use, it's "false" as it seems like a well sourced claim.
anonOpenPress ago
I found another source for this claim. News on August 12, 2016:
LostandFound ago
2017-05-18
http://archive.is/aezwx - August 1st HRC meets SR family for photo op, comments on Seth's warm smile.
anonOpenPress ago
To new goats joining in: If you sorted the comments by "New" to find from where to pick up, please note that this date is not the latest in order of checked submissions.
@LostandFound, no problem picking a later date, you can do that, it just causes some extra work for all new goats joining info them to check where they should begin. I've updated the OP top to avoid this extra work in the future. Your cherry pick is great, and that's an important claim you found. In the future, if you keep contributing to this project, please add both the archive link and the original source link.
LostandFound ago
All good hopefully get some time tonight again to pitch in. Could i suggest further subdiving the cats as I was unsure if I took an older one someone might be doing the same one :)
anonOpenPress ago
If users will post the dates they are on, we shouldn't have that problem. Just sort the comments by "New" to see what's the next date to pick.
Dressage2 ago
Reporting for duty. Tell what you want me to do. Assign me what you need from me. Let's roll!
anonOpenPress ago
Rewriting: Welcome along. I've just updated the top of the post to help newcomers in. Happy for any help from you too!
YingYangMom ago
I just read this article on Seth Rich and it's got a timeline of events + presents all the evidence gathered so far. You pretty have your work done for you here :
http://archive.is/yVETo
From Voat thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1884152 posted by @Pizzalawyer
Pizzalawyer ago
Yes, I agree YYM, that article covered just about everything and would serve as a useful outline to which anonOpenPress can add additional facts and/or create a new subheading. For instance Seth's attraction to pandas which in turn makes sense of the Internet moniker of Panda.
anonOpenPress ago
Great article, but unfortunately... with zero sources linked. Won't work as a press backgrounder for true investigative journalists, as they want to be able to fact check their posts. Let's just keep on working on this.
What you found is something we might see as a result in a bigger media, after our job is done.
YingYangMom ago
Here is the original. I will post all links included in the article in case it gets scrubbed.
https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/seth-rich-is-a-whistleblower-b348767699eb
FAKE NEWS http://archive.is/yWQd4
PREVIOUS LAPINSKI ARTICLE http://archive.is/DHaWs
"Seth Rich investigation has major political implications as it can potentially unravel the Russian hacking narrative..."
RUSSIAN HACKING NARRATIVE http://archive.is/GjJEU
OBAMA'S COVER UP http://archive.is/ZNqsG
PHONES GF 2 MIN. BEFORE GETTING SHOT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCMhX2sHEmg&t=7m21s
MPD PUBLIC INCIDENT REPORT https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*Hwpn2RbT4ua3OebftDF-wA.png
OBAMA SAYS IT WAS A LEAK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OaWeQ6Sw1Y
FBI NOT ALLOWED TO EXAMINE DNC SERVERS http://archive.is/Kr3M7
FOUNDER OF CROWDSTRIKE TIES TO HILLARY http://archive.is/CGCt5
EVIDENCE OF RUSSIAN HACKING INCONCLUSIVE http://archive.is/GjJEU
VAULT 7 https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ http://archive.is/y339x
CIA FAKING CAPABILITIES http://archive.is/zzIh1
FBI DENIED INVESTIGATION OF SERVER BY DNC http://archive.is/nhgrW
ASSANGE TWEET ABOUT SETH RICH https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*L32lcj6bXWj1O0thrA9ycw.png
ASSANGE STATEMENT ABOUT RICH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg
WL OPERATIVE, CRAIG MURRAY http://archive.is/hOR41
CRAIG MURRAY PUBLIC STATEMENT http://archive.is/eyMRY
KIM DOTCOM STATEMENT http://kim.com
SOMEONE EDITED RICH REDDIT POSTS http://archive.is/Qw05X
DONNA BRAZIL WARNED OFF PRIVATE EYE ON RICH MURDER http://archive.is/74I6U
PODESTA LINKS TO P.D. BOARD https://archive.is/iU1Th
CIA DEAL WITH AMAZON http://archive.is/ux4qw
WAPO STILL HOLDS ON TO RUSSIAN HACK NARRATIVE http://archive.is/ZC0K2
COPS NEVER TALKED WITH STAFF ABOUT RICH http://archive.is/TwF5m
/u/MeGrimlock4 PROFILE OVERVIEW https://archive.is/3nvVm
WL EMAIL ID 36082 - SCREEN SHOT https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*pgh-M_ibMJdafh3LIzbccw.png
ORIGINAL : https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082
THE WAPO ARTICLE IN QUESTION http://archive.is/dMbP8
JOHN PODESTA JOINS WAPO TEAM http://archive.is/5gEtR
SCREENSHOT OF COBETTA (stonetear) on REDDIT https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*rZ7u5BY0RF_cv5RY7CWl2w.png
WL ORIGINAL EMAIL: https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15792
ARTICLE ON DEM HQ SHUT DOWN http://archive.is/mu9Rt
BRAZILE ADMITS SHE SHARED DEBATE QUESTIONS WITH CLINTON CAMPAIGN http://archive.is/Mgtzg
SETH FB POST IN QUESTION https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*lyZAkPhg3aETpdaKokkowA.jpeg
WAPO ARTICLE ON POLICE CHIEF NEW NFL POSITION http://archive.is/BvRp4
ARCHIVE ON HEATHER PODESTA MEMBER OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DCPD https://archive.is/iU1Th
FOX NEWS STORIES ON SETH RICH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacShITWs-8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIpd-3YtHX4
ARTICLE ON WAPO COVER-UP http://archive.is/STjoA
ABC INTERVIEW WITH THE RICHES, FBI NOT INVOLVED IN CASE ARTICLE http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fbi-involved-seth-rich-case-officials/story?id=47565705 http://archive.is/BzjOM
crackedscreenLK ago
You mentiond Mook. He was in a photo with this guy that I just saw today 5/26/17
http://nypost.com/2017/05/26/de-blasio-staffer-arrested-for-child-pornography
crackedscreenLK ago
Meaning I saw the photo. Not the guy.
anonOpenPress ago
Awesome list of sourced claims, thanks a lot! Here's some work left, as we need to go through each to find who is the original source (archiving is important, so thanks for adding those, but archive is not the source)
YingYangMom ago
Also this :
https://www.facebook.com/pandas4bernie/photos/a.1698278520451695.1073741828.1698276390451908/1944963482449863/?type=3&permPage=1
anonOpenPress ago
@YingYangMom Really great work, you saved me on so much! Thank You for your help!
YingYangMom ago
@anonOpenPress
READ THIS? https://contraspin.co.nz/someone-is-lying-to-seth-richs-family-about-kim-dotcom/
anonOpenPress ago
Thanks! ps. You should share this also on /v/pizzagate
YingYangMom ago
I just posted it as a link!
YingYangMom ago
@anonOpenPress
You're going to love this!
NOT A DRILL PEDES!!! With clues from pol and other public info, I have found Seth Rich's Reddit account and need help archiving 6 years post history STAT! Weaponized autists call to arms, start digging, Godspeed pedes and post your findings.
http://archive.is/JEe7t
Got it from this tweet : https://twitter.com/LadyReverb/status/865779044364701696
https://archive.is/rZfHp
YingYangMom ago
My pleasure, glad I could help :)
YingYangMom ago
@anonOpenPress
u/MeGrimlock4 is Seth Rich
http://archive.is/h93Zm (Overview)
https://archive.is/tCD1h (Comment history)
https://archive.is/DjkbS (Submission posts)
https://archive.is/iwOeS (Gilded)
Screenshots
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*zmjOAYNAVzqco7kAHEZ15Q.png (Proof it is Seth)
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*i2BMj8G5r3D7QEvEceYcHg.png
https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205191195-What-does-it-mean-when-an-asterisk-appears-next-to-a-comment-
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*xc6YN6F4s8kAirpMPeT6Hg.png
Source: "Someone Just Edited Seth Rich’s Reddit Posts" (article linked in comment above)
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/someone-just-edited-seth-richs-reddit-posts-b5f185b0aab
Additional articles on Seth Rich
"Friends in D.C. celebrate Omaha native Seth Rich’s generous spirit"
http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/friends-in-d-c-celebrate-omaha-native-seth-rich-s/article_2b231843-8166-5b52-98fe-8335827464e1.html http://archive.is/N4iqj
"DNC dedicates bike rack in front of D.C. headquarters to staffer — an Omaha native — who was slain"
http://www.omaha.com/news/politics/dnc-dedicates-bike-rack-in-front-of-d-c-headquarters/article_6f29c36a-ad53-5e50-ad96-51d120ad0954.html
"27-year-old Creighton grad, DNC staffer shot dead in D.C. wanted 'to try to save the world"
https://archive.is/joW0m
"D.C. police, family of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich urge anyone with information about murder to come forward"
https://archive.is/169g7
YingYangMom ago
original links:
FAKE NEWS https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/20/the-seth-rich-conspiracy-shows-how-fake-news-still-works/?utm_term=.0ffe654d1cf3
PREVIOUS LAPINSKI ARTICLE https://bullshit.ist/fake-news-is-propaganda-56a140743927
RUSSIAN HACKING NARRATIVE https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/evidence-of-russian-hacking-is-inconclusive-d485726b962f
OBAMA'S COVER UP https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/wikileaks-proves-fbi-covered-up-hillary-clintons-private-e-mail-server-to-protect-president-eb32ab91384c
FBI NOT ALLOWED TO EXAMINE DNC SERVERS http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/313555-comey-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers
FOUNDER OF CROWDSTRIKE TIES TO HILLARY https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2017/03/23/what-is-crowdstrike-firm-hired-by-dnc-has-ties-to-hillary-clinton-a-ukrainian-billionaire-and-google/
EVIDENCE OF RUSSIAN HACKING INCONCLUSIVE https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/evidence-of-russian-hacking-is-inconclusive-d485726b962f
CIA FAKING CAPABILITIES https://hackernoon.com/wikileaks-vault7-exposes-cia-deep-state-hacking-capabilities-883f87828211
FBI DENIED INVESTIGATION OF SERVER BY DNC http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/10/james-comey-dnc-denied-fbi-direct-access-servers-d/
WL OPERATIVE, CRAIG MURRAY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html
CRAIG MURRAY PUBLIC STATEMENT http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/
SOMEONE EDITED RICH REDDIT POSTS https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/someone-just-edited-seth-richs-reddit-posts-b5f185b0aab
DONNA BRAZIL WARNED OFF PRIVATE EYE ON RICH MURDER http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/bombshell-donna-brazile-probing-seth-rich-murder-says-private-eye/
PODESTA LINKS TO P.D. BOARD http://www.dcpolicefoundation.org/board-members.html
CIA DEAL WITH AMAZON https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/
WAPO STILL HOLDS ON TO RUSSIAN HACK NARRATIVE https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/washington-post-already-claiming-russiagate-is-still-valid-even-if-seth-rich-was-dnc-leaker-69002b556fa3
COPS NEVER TALKED WITH BAR STAFF ABOUT RICH http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/bar-manager-cops-never-talked-with-staff-about-night-seth-rich-died/
THE WAPO ARTICLE IN QUESTION https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-making-of-hillary-50-marketing-wizards-help-reimagine-clinton-brand/2015/02/21/bfb01120-b919-11e4-aa05-1ce812b3fdd2_story.html?utm_term=.14c1e93a201a
JOHN PODESTA JOINS WAPO TEAM https://www.washingtonpost.com/pr/wp/2017/02/23/john-podesta-joins-the-washington-post-as-a-contributing-columnist/?utm_term=.9dadacf8ef93
ARTICLE ON DEM HQ SHUT DOWN http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-nevada-democrats-sanders-campaign-has-violent-2016may16-story.html
BRAZILE ADMITS SHE SHARED DEBATE QUESTIONS WITH CLINTON CAMPAIGN http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign/article/2617742
WAPO ARTICLE ON POLICE CHIEF NEW NFL POSITION https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/dc-police-chief-cathy-l-lanier-leaves-to-work-for-the-nfl/2016/08/16/9d81ae2c-63ba-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html?utm_term=.98829f0e736e
ARTICLE ON WAPO COVER-UP https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/theres-major-fuckery-afoot-with-the-washington-post-and-i-think-i-know-why-fc32e574d49f
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3741754/Father-murdered-DNC-staffer-reveals-son-join-Hillary-Clinton-presidential-campaign-punching-hole-ugly-rumor-Wikileaks-source.html
LostandFound ago
Was not sure how long I could spend this eve so I jumped ahead to ensure I didn't cross over apologize.
2017-05-19
http://archive.is/WGJ7o - Unverifiable, only because its a chat log but provided by Wikileaks, conversation from Guccifer 2.0 to Robin Young ( extremely vocal on SR story ) describing his source 'seth'
http://archive.is/dr4k4 - Guccifer 2.0 Claims he passed the DNC emails to Wikileaks
http://g-2.space/rev1.html - Complete guccifer 2.0 timeline link forwarded by Wikileaks events begin June 12th 2016
So many rabbit holes will add if I find more
anonOpenPress ago
To new goats joining in: Please note that this date is not the latest in order of checked submissions.
DoItForKeks ago
Hi anon posted some info dump on megrimlock4's only "guilded" reddit comment. I looked at it, but it's hard to parse out.
https:/ /archive.fo/Wh2vc
It looks like a dump of the comment and some sort of attempt to identify all parties who respond to the comment. There are a couple of users of interest. It think the goal is to find out if this was code or if it was just a legitimate comment in r/aww. Megrimlock4 posted A LOT in r/aww (see snoopsnoo link) so it might have been somewhere to talk in code before he created the panda accounts - or accounts we haven't found yet.
Interesting users in the dump:
Also, in a follow up comment, megrimlock4 throws out this URL (jew DVM with a parrot): http://blog.nilesanimalhospital.com/2011/10/normal-0-false-false-false.html -> https://archive.fo/RRtuJ note: https://archive.fo/RRtuJ/9ccbd436bc44eaf8d25aca468839cad681aa063d
And lolmonger throws out this ling about dogs and 9/11
http://www.thedogfiles.com/2009/09/11/911-world-trade-center/ (https://archive.fo/91Vyv))
Can't make this shit up.
Need to look at all users in this thread and look at any coded language in megrimlock4's posts (related to espionage and known events). We need to look at all users who interacted with megrimlock4 and the other reddit alias(es) to create a network. Seth could have been the tip of the spear.
Look more into original info dump on that thread to see if you can pick out more. Like I said, it was kinda sperg and all over the place.
anonOpenPress ago
Hi, you seem to do great on this lead, but please post investigation like this to /v/pizzagate instead. Here I hope we simply collect sourced claims from the Seth Rich related Voat submissions. There are 180 of those (enough), so this collaboration is not (at least not yet) digging any deeper.
To everybody: Let's keep this simple enough. Just pick any Voat post from the source list, find a sourced claim, comment it here.
DoItForKeks ago
ok
anonOpenPress ago
Cheers! The project is entering that level in time, so your great investigative help will surely be helpful later.
LostandFound ago
Seth was involved in data science any chance of stenography?
DoItForKeks ago
go to v/pizzagate to see thread i will post there
Bluebirdsolitude ago
Seth Rich murdered in July
anonOpenPress ago
thanks, editing. I guess too much rush today, running, communicating, writing here...
anonOpenPress ago
2016-12-02 done, 3 claims by Voat user "mto89" after interpreting a 4chan discussion originally posted here by "Normality1":
flyingcuttlefish ago
I like so many posts here on voat ... it is hard for me to rate some of the best as "better than" etc.
Maybe use traffic count as an indicator?
anonOpenPress ago
Let's like them all for now, including both good and bad looking claims, as long as they are sourced claims.
Jem777 ago
I have jumped on this so aggressively because it brings together most of the different research communities who are trying to get truth. Many of these communities fight each other not realizing they all have expertise in certain areas. Seth Rich brings them all together. When his murder is uncovered and it is revealed he was the leaker to Wikileaks from the DNC and was murdered for it everything we have ever suspected will be brought to light. To think that citizens from every walk of life and skill set came together and investigated their government including dying for it is mind blowing. That the police, FBI, & news media would participate in it and cover it up is appealing. Edit : meant appalling
For those whistleblowers who have been persecuted they will feel free, for those who have died they will have some justice, for those who are still trapped inside they can speak, for those children who are trapped right now they might be saved.
anonOpenPress ago
++ thanks, I kind of agree on everything you said
anonOpenPress ago
2016-11-27 (The first and only source on this date) done. Only one related claim found:
anonOpenPress ago
ping: @Commoner @keepthefaith @Jem777 @Gilderoy @srayzie Please check this
srayzie ago
Sorry but I do all of this from my iPad or iPhone. This would be extremely difficult that way and I won't have time. But, I think it's awesome what you're are doing.