First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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ESOTERICshade ago
@crensch, about a year ago when I figured out that you had the v/pizzagatemods sub set so that only
a) you or your alts
or
b) you and a few people you knew about
could down vote in v/pizzagatemods, I knew you were playing dirty poker. You had the sub set with a 10 CCP minimum to be eligible to downvote. That means the way @puttitout had the code written that NOBODY could ever gain those 10 points needed to downvote except you and either A or B above.
I knew you were the person/s down voting people in that sub when nobody else could down vote. You also treated people that dared raise a concern about how v/pizzagate was being run like total shit. That was some low ass shit, in a sub trying to save children, bro.
Here you are, squatting on v/pizzagate as an Owner, and abusing the fuck out of people that dared to go into v/pizzagatemods and express an opinion. There was an Emergency thread started in v/protectvoat because of your management. That thread still exists.
You were told to undo your little shitty ass nigger rig abuse game in v/pizzagatemods.
THEN, next you almost allowed the Q-Army to swarm v/pizzagate into a state of destruction BUT I put a stop to that because SOMEBODY had to save v/pizzagate. If you had the capacity you would be appreciative. It was ALSO against EVERY RULE in the sidebar.
You can leave this revenge thread up for eternity and it won't change what you did.
I did a noble deed by saving v/pizzagate from ignorance, it is still intact, and the Q-Berts are now in their own space.
Your holier than thou ass..... You can leave this thread up until hell freezes over and it won't change the facts. I barely scanned this scorn piece once and then have paid no attention to it.
You fucked with the wrong person, get over it. To use your language you got "bested" and I know it hurts. Grow up, make better decisions, learn from it.
I would like to believe that you learned enough from this experience not to put v/pizzagate in jeopardy again because it is a precious resource that the world needs. For longer than I wanted, I was willing to help you protect this valuable resource.
You tried to start a poker game with me. What you didn't know is that your amateur ass was starting a game of "Go Fish" with a "Texas Hold Em" master. I learned how to play "Go Fish" before you were ever a thought in your parent's minds.
I will never bail this sub out again.....I won't do it again. You're welcome :)
Crensch ago
Everytime you post you motivate me to start posting Q stuff here. If I'm not too busy when I get home, I will start doing that.
You failed. You failed at everything and you will continue to fail. There is no future left for you here there is no Legacy that you will leave behind.
ESOTERICshade ago
Knock yourself out. I won't say a word.
If you ever leave a legacy, you can thank me for it, because if I had not saved your bacon, this place would be trashed.
Crensch ago
I know you were paid to destroy this place. You know it only worked as long as it did because I didn't get involved.
I bet it hurts knowing that your operation has now been so fully compromised that you can do nothing but try desperately to cling to any legitimacy you might have on any of your accounts.
What I like is that panicked Jews make lots of mistakes.
ESOTERICshade ago
Sure....That is why this place is still standing right? It is still standing BECAUSE of me and not in spite of me. You are reaching desperately. Narcissism is tough on the soul isn't it?
There were several of us working together hoping that the Q-Army would find their own home instead of settling in on this sub and totally destroying this place. We are happy that the two camps remained split and that both camps seem calm, happy, and content. We think it worked out just fine.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Thanks for the belly-laugh ES.
ESOTERICshade ago
Glad I could be of service :)
But this>>> https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15889536 is what we are dealing with. I knew that a year ago and I started paying attention because I knew it would take a mind like
this>>> https://files.catbox.moe/sn79r2.PNG
to overcome it. I am telling you this instant that crensch will burn this place to the ground in order to "be right" and i'm not kidding even a little bit. Been watching this for a long time.
This place is stable right now. A BUNCH OF US pitched in to make it that way. Bunch of us old timers that used to post here every day that refuse to post here anymore because we are worn out, and burned out, on the crensch narcissism.
We won't do it again. I promise you that we won't save this place again. If crensch tries to sink this boat out of spite it will be up to @kevdude to save this place because @puttitout seems to make it a policy to not intervene, and I appreciate Putt for that.
Since you seem to care, might be your turn next big dog :)
think- ago
Don't think you can groom her, she's smart.
@shewhomustbeobeyed
auralsects ago
Kevdude is a Qtard also you idiot.
Someone who believes THE GOVT will solve everything in a deus ex machina event is not a conspiracy researcher by definition
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
probably
ESOTERICshade ago
:)
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I'm so very glad I amuse you
I told you I would try to do better
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @srayzie @kevdude @argosciv
ESOTERICshade ago
https://files.catbox.moe/ki4sol.PNG
Argosciv is an admitted blood drinker. crensch knows this.
https://files.catbox.moe/ki4sol.PNG
@Vindicator @srayzie @kevdude @puttitout
And anybody else with a sane mind that gives a shit about v/pizzagate. Apparently we might see a butt hurt scorched earth scenario here by crensch. I hope not because I invested a lot of my soul in this place. Might be time for some intervention?
srayzie ago
We know this. I myself have talked to @Argosciv. He’s really trying to make improvements in his life. I’m not defending what he did. But I am defending the fact that this was in the past. He’s a human being. Everyone deserves a second chance.
What is it that’s bothering you? That’s he’s a mod on ProtectVoat? That has nothing to do with Pizzagate. He’s been respectful. He knows to not talk about religion around me and others. He’s respecting boundaries.
So have a lot of us.
Are you serious? You don’t think things have already reached a ridiculous point? Do you just want to destroy pizzagate once and for all? Do you not have a past? All this bullshit needs to end.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
My my, you are a real phony. We know he drinks blood like the pedo Satanist we expose, but he is trying to improve his life and we support him. Ok, you are really stupid. Not because I think you believe he is not one of them, but because you put that paragraph together as if it was plauasable that you could be so clueless. PG investigators should not be dealing with proudly admitted blood drinkers in here. Which tells me you are not a PG investigator. Ped pedo pedo shills.
srayzie ago
More on my stand point. Take it or leave it.
srayzie ago
I’m disgusted by it too. But if you knew a drug addict and they changed their ways and tried turning their life around, you wouldn’t be supportive of that person? How about an alcoholic? How about a drug dealer, or a dead beat parent that was trying to change and do the right thing? You wouldn’t support that person either? So because he admitted to doing something like that, but is now trying to make life changes, he should forever be treated like a monster? Why would someone want to change of everyone is going to just shun them anyway?
This isn’t even about Argosciv. I didn’t like him. This is about human decency. Helping a brother out when he’s down. God knows I’ve gone thru times in my life where I’ve needed support. Maybe he doesn’t have support in real life. Have you ever thought of that? I had to have forgiveness in my heart for my mother, or I would have grown up hating her and would be a bitter person my whole life. This world would be a lot better place if people had compassion for one another. He may fall again. But at least he’s trying. I’ve talked to him personally.
No, I am not pedo, and that’s a fucked up thing to say when you don’t even know me. You haven’t walked in my shoes. Maybe you had it easy growing up so you can’t understand that people can have low periods in life. Or maybe you had to go thru a lot and you’re bitter. Your way of dealing with things doesn’t give you the right to judge the way I deal with thing. I’ve always gotten along with you so I don’t get what your issue is.
Shizy ago
The issue is that @argosciv is calling them out, so their only defense is to try and undermine him and his support.
Don't let them second guess yourself Srayzie! You have the heart of a real Christian trying to help someone who is trying to turn their life around and can benefit from some positive encouragement. That doesn't mean the people you try to help will always be successful at it, but all you can do is try to live by the example that Jesus set.
Luke 15:7 KJV I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
srayzie ago
Awww thank you Shizy <3
People are probably tripping out seeing the good side of us right now 😂🤣
Shizy ago
I'm sure! They all think we're always foul mouthed bitches!
srayzie ago
We are! 😂 Doesn’t mean we don’t love Jesus punks!
ESOTERICshade ago
God help us all. I didn't know that @argosciv was a mod anywhere in this world but in his own mind. Thats too bad, it really is. I am a serious respecter of personal messages so I won't divulge mine between me and him.
Lets leave his blood drinking out of this then, i'm willing to do that, for now. If you give him "two and two" and try to get him to match it together he gets it wrong 88% of the time. Also, he only LIVES FOR ONE THING and that is to suck up to mods and get recognition. Instead of trying to bring knowledge to the table he grovels around the edges of the table trying to suck up to the people who DO BRING MEAT to the table.
If so, that is an improvement. But look at his v/lampshade or whatever it is sub. What a conflagration of utter bullshit. NOTHING there but mod suck up material.
However, I extend another however, and I will extend it to @argosciv
I used to be a drug and alcohol counselor, for a brief time. I have seen some of the biggest miracles I thought I would never see. I also LOVE TO SEE people who are struggling get a foothold, get some traction, start pulling out of the hole, and do some seriously big and good stuff. I have seen it before so I know its possible and I have reached my arm down in many a hole and helped a LOT of lost brothers find solid ground.
@argosciv is intelligent and we all know that. He just needs a place to put that intelligence and some solid footing to his feet on. I will NEVER deny a brother a chance to get his feet on the ground and I won't interfere in this. Argo, if you are digging out of the hole you have my blessing brother and welcome aboard :)
I hope you make it.
srayzie ago
He IS very smart. This has helped him because he’s putting that brain to get use. Thank your that was nice of you to say.
argosciv ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh god lol.
Always with the backflipping and trying to curry favor with 'compliments', despite that it now being known that not only is he behind the slander/brigading against me, but that he even used his own alts to attack me while pretending they're not his alts.
Remember that time he, as rarepeeks, said he hopes I kill myself?
Or how about that time he blamed me for the downvoting he receives, so that he had a pretense to brigade me out of the blue with/using dragonkiller(et al)?
You're fucking pathetic, @ESOTERICshade.
cc: @Crensch @Vindicator @Shizy @MolochHunter
ESOTERICshade ago
Ok nevermind, go fuck yourself, which is what I should have said in the first place. Useless piece of shit.
ESOTERICshade ago
It gets better. I edited it. Read it again. If you are behind this, I am behind you, you know that :) I will hold my better judgement and let the future proof be what it is because I respect you Srayzie :)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15892940
srayzie ago
Thank you!
Shizy ago
Sounds like someone's trying to take the heat off themself and deflect it over to @argosciv.
argosciv ago
They always do.
Now he's desperately trying to back out of his bullshit by complimenting me and acting like he considers me a brother.
It's hilarious how pathetic his whole charade has become.
srayzie ago
See parent...
@Vindicator @Kevdude @Crensch @Shizy @MolochHunter
Vindicator ago
Noted. I also replied to him.
ESOTERICshade ago
Hitting rock bottom when you are reduced to pinging argosciv, AN ADMITTED BLOOD DRINKER. I think you are vindictive enough to destroy this place. Hopefully @kevdude and @puttitiout won't let that happen.
Vindicator ago
You created TWO accounts with the sole purpose of trying to silence @argosciv, ES. Are you really surprised that both @kevdude and @Crensch have embraced him as a result? You are a proven liar, fraud and brigader -- someone who has demonstrated so little faith in his own arguments that he has to rig the system to try to gain the outcome he wants because he can't convince people in the marketplace of ideas.
Why did you seek to silence @argosciv? No one has ever shown any evidence to me, though I've asked multiple times, of him actually causing or intending any harm to anyone on this board or anywhere else.
You want to bash Jews, Jesuits and Masons. Argo wants to bash Scientologists. What's the difference?
Every true Catholic on this board is an "admitted blood drinker". You going to witchhunt every one of them to keep them from sharing what they know about the pedovores?
Not on my watch.
Last I checked, the United States Constitution, which protects the speech on this board, honors every man's right to freedom of religion. I take that very seriously. I have multiple relatives and ancestors who gave their blood to secure that right. Every man and woman deserves the freedom to grapple their way to Truth for him or herself. You've tried to take that away.
ESOTERICshade ago
The leadership hierarchy of those groups are the same ones responsible for destroying our world. You are aware of that, right? Should we just not talk about it?
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
Hillarious, a supposed PG investigator is inflamed that you bash Jesuits and Masons. That says it all. Pedo pedo pedo mod.
ESOTERICshade ago
I think you have good intentions and I still think you are the most blue pilled person I know that thinks they are red pilled.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
That is my problem with you. You think everybody has good intentions but they are stupid. I think that makes you ...slow, at least. They do not have good intentions.
ESOTERICshade ago
I understand. I am not as naive as I appear to be.
ESOTERICQIZZAshade ago
Oh, he has no desire to bash Jews, he just has to in order to seem like a half-shade Talmud goat... or something.
argosciv ago
Fixed:
Crensch ago
@Trigglypuff @Vindicator @think- @kevdude @srayzie
"Hi, my name is ESOTERIC, and I'm a half ass shade tree Talmud scholar. This is part 1 of my introduction. This is part 2. Please keep in mind that my heart aches when I think about meth, so try not to bring it up around me."
"This place, Voat, is TOTALLY fucked, and I did EVERYTHING I could do to make voice heard above the rest with sock puppet accounts. I pulled out all the morality-based stops that HUMANS would have, because I'm a meth head Jew. You'll see, without JEWS, this place will dissolve!"
"I like talking myself up with my alt, @ridleychozo, and pretending as if he knows @DeathToMasosASAP isn't me. I try to mock legitimate users by claiming all they say is "nigger faggot kike shill", but it's obviously a joke because everyone laughs at me when I do it; I know this, but I continue to try to make that one stick, because I'm a JEW. Jews just don't have the capacity to understand why our lies don't work, so we just keep doubling down on the same tired cliches."
"Smart people will jump ship, and THIS is TOTALLY my LAST COMMENT... until it isn't! I'm going to blame @migratorypatterns' leaving on Q, because obviously the goyim leaving had NOTHING to do with me and my antics. Also, I'm TOTALLY 'moving to greener pastures' where I can sock puppet and not get caught like a Scooby-Doo villain."
"Since I figured out my alt, @NOMOCHOMO wasn't going to make it, I came back... AGAIN on my main meth head username to respond to my alt, @PrepareForWar that I used to threaten the mods with. (see username - I am SO clever!)"
"Hey guize, my half ass shade tree Talmud scholar thing was TOTALLY a Sun Tzu ploy, (I am SO clever - this meth really does wonders for my head.) For this comment, my mod of choice is @Vindicator; for this comment I think he MEANS well, but is a sheep being led to the slaughter."
"My favorite fallacies are "tone fallacy" and "relative privation". I also like LARPing as being the nephew of a senator since it makes me sound important."
"I also like psychologically projecting my own faults onto others; like not getting enough sleep and doing meth. Did you all notice that direct accusations of meth use don't seem to work anymore? I wonder why that is."
"I often pretend that I am unperturbed by mentions of my loved one's meth addiction. I make up fanfiction for my enemies and attempt to make my narratives stick. It's t funny how I LARP as a senator's nephew, but CONSTANTLY attack Q for LARPing?"
"@think- now YOU are the smart one!. Also, I totally try to explain away my "shade tree" meaning "half ass" even though it would suggest that I called myself a "half ass half ass Talmud scholar". I finish this comment with other horseshit nobody cares about. Do you love me yet, meth-addled daddy?"
"I also think Orange Man Bad and I add Plato's allegory in to make myself looks smart. @think- you are now crazy, not smart. No longer my favorite mod! I randomly bash all goats and other users here, too, by saying they'll "Jew it up" when I, myself, am Jewish."
"Listen to old grampa ESOTERIC and I will show you the way, (of the Jew!) See, I can even attack people without links supporting my accusations, and pretending to hate Jews when my earliest comments were telling goats NOT to attack races like the Jews!"
"I don't care anymore, and I barely log in here anymore, but now you, @Blacksmith21, are my favorite Voat user! Watch me randomly mention winter and tell you like a good grampa ESOTERIC to get a coat. Totally not gay of me, though!"
"Here I am, thirteen days ago trying to act out my "Grampa PizzaGate" persona to @darkknight111. Listen to me, goy! I know what's best for you!"
"I like talking about putting muddy boots on my coffee table, because it makes me feel more like a human, you know, like those Zuckerberg memes! Also, my sister is sadly back in rehab with her meth addiction. It's SO sad, but I'll keep acting like CRENSCH has the meth problem because it makes me think that people won't believe I have a meth addict in the family ."
"I like to accuse others of scaring off good users, because it TOTALLY wasn't already proved that I did exactly that, constantly. I don't like the fact that the mods don't take my alt accounts seriously when they push the same narrative I was pushing!"
"As you can see, I talk to myself a lot. That's my username! @NOMOCHOMO is me! It looks TOTALLY like I'm two different people, doesn't it? I even attack myself on NOMOCHOMO to make it seem TOTALLY legit! Maybe that's why I admit to going to rehab from my own meth addiction. If only my mother would go back to rehab, maybe she could become human instead of something that kinda looks like a human that just needs to DIE."
"Applaud me more, goyim, for running off good users here! I saved the children from being rescued from their rapists! Don't applaud me, I don't want your applause... seriously... don't applaud... not even a little... anyone? Anyone? NOTICE ME, SENPAI."