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ESOTERICshade ago

Are you done accusing innocent members of Voat of being me? How many members will you alienate that will never come back and contribute to this sub again? You done yet? You already ran off all the old regulars that used to contribute here. They left because of your bullshit. You are the most destructive thing that ever happened to Voat. You are cancer. If I owned this site I would ban your IP address and run you the fuck out of here. You are a disgrace of a human being. You need to go to rehab and get your life straight. You have bombed this sub with your dumbass for too long and I wish @puttitout would nuke your stupid ass. You need a break from the internet.

Piscina ago

The problem IS the owner of this site. Voat is now owned by the pedos and their protectors. When Voat showed signs of being an independent source of research, they bought it. The mods are following orders and doing what they're told.

Vindicator ago

Try to produce one iota of evidence for anything you just claimed. You can't, because it's bullshit.

Gothamgirl ago

Neither do you.

Vindicator ago

Neither do you Vindicator, you and your mods claim I am crazy

That was my charitable explanation for your destructive behavior. We've got a number of mentally ill people on this board, including several with DID. I do my best to discern them from actual shills.

I wasn't even going to comment on this thread until you dragged me into it.

Hmmm. Where, exactly, did I "drag you into it"? You are replying to a comment I made to Piscina, who was once again making dishonest assertions she cannot defend with evidence. By inserting yourself into the conversation, you are taking a position supporting her and the proven liar and manipulator Esoteric, whom she was defending.

That seems pretty dumb for someone "smart" enough to "have enough income from royalties, investments, and annuities that I was able to retire at 32". How did you even know this conversation was going on? Is Piscina an alt that you control?

Shizy ago

I have enough income from royalties, investments, and annuities that I was able to retire at 32.

She just added that when she edited her comment a few hours ago. That was not in her original comment.

I'd say it's a sign of mental illness to fixate on a comment so much that you come back and edit it to make yourself sound more awesome and definately NOT on public assistance!

Vindicator ago

Interestingly, ES also made similar claims about his wealth, as @Crensch noted here.

It's almost like they are trying to provide non-suspicious explanations for the apparently unlimited funding that allows them to run so many alts.

Gothamgirl ago

No nice try you people brought up my income I responded. Probably did the same to ES.

So your connecting patterns. Do you know that's also a huge trait of a skitzo?

Vindicator ago

No nice try you people brought up my income in previous posts so I am responding.

No, I replied to Piscina, who was spreading lies about Voat being run by pedos. I didn't bring you up at all. You showed up out of nowhere and sperged out, then came back and edited your comment to brag about your income.

Gothamgirl ago

No you or one of the other mods have stated prior I was on welfare. I didn't brag at all, as it's not alot to brag about. You have stated I was mentally ill on this thread a few comments ago. I have every right to add or change my comments as does everyone else. If you don't want individuals to splurge out and comment maybe try to stop talking about us.

Vindicator ago

Here's the whole comment thread. I never mentioned you. You showed up when I replied to Piscina's BS claims.

Gothamgirl ago

It started here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15689332/10#15689332

And you link is where I decided to address it.

argosciv ago

Guess what, you dumb cunt.

I've already owned up to every suspicion I ever had about various users at various times. Suspicions which were, of course, festered and encouraged by you and your buddies in the first place, with your brigading, slander/manipulation and disinfo.

@srayzie's already well aware of anything you might think is fodder to use against me.

There's no secret that I not only once trusted you and other subversive cunts that you're aligned with, but also that I once had my suspicions about various users including mods such as her. What you appear to be unaware of, though, is that a shitload has changed and that your anti-argosciv narrative is dead in the water.

Go ahead and, by mission of action, show your undying allegiance to ESOTERICshade, TrustTheTruth and co.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt once upon a time, but, you've now confirmed every suspicion I ever had about you. That's the funny part. You'll try to use my past suspicions about others, as a weapon - little do you realize though, that my suspicions of you have always outweighed and were communicated long in advance of you pathetic moves here.

https://archive.vn/1LAuV

Gothamgirl ago

I don't have alligence to anyone, I am tagged in the truth and support individuals I like and who are here for the right reasons. You are nothing more then a manipulating drunkin scumbag.

srayzie ago

You and I have worked our differences out privately. But, you keep making cuts about us mods. Even tho you aren’t saying my name, your message is coming thru loud and clear.

If mods have alligence to you, that is very fucking disturbing and telling!

Allegiance isn’t the word I would use. @Argosciv has made a lot of changes and improvements in his life, and we worked things out privately. Everyone deserves a second chance.

Why are you such a paranoid person? I bet it's drugs.

You of all people know about paranoia. You are the only one who’s ever accused me of sick crimes that can’t even possibly be true. Besides, the drama that’s been aired about you the last couple of months revealed that you are the one that does drugs.

TrustTheTruth is crazy and totally lies about us. To prove that they were lying, I made the following detailed comments explaining everything in more depth. So anyone that interacts with that liar, says a lot to me.

@Shizy @MolochHunter

Crensch ago

They're just bringing back all the characters these past few weeks, aren't they? It's like a bad Marvel comic.

srayzie ago

Lol. Yeah. This ones on a roll today.

Shizy ago

So it sounds like you Trust the Truth right ho?

@argosciv @srayzie

Gothamgirl ago

Your so weak lapdog, caved and didn't block me. Am I supposed to believe anything you say now?😁

Shizy ago

Oh I blocked your dumbass, but I was notified by someone else you were over here running your mouth some more so I thought I'd stop by for a quick laugh at the stupid old skank who thinks she's tough 🤣!

Gothamgirl ago

Haha no you blocked me cause you ran out of lies. I know I am tough, tough enough to take on your whole pg13 gang all at once.

Shizy ago

tough enough to take on your whole pg13 gang all at once if I chose to.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

It's well known you enjoy taking a gang of 13 all at once you filthy hooch!

Gothamgirl ago

No it's not, it's another pathetic lie by a pathetic lapdog who isn't smart enough to think of anything original ever...

Shizy ago

Yet youre the dumb bitch who keeps parroting "lapdog" like it's some huge insult 🤣😂🤣!

You're so boring!

I tried to take pity on you and block you since I'm positive you suffer from mental illness, but if you think you're "tough" and want to keep this going then keep running your mouth!

Gothamgirl ago

Not really bored just responding to stupidity while I am waiting in line.

Lapdog is exactly how you act. If the shoe fits..

argosciv ago

who isn't smart enough to think of anything original ever

Do please go ahead and repeat talking points from ES and TTT.

https://archive.vn/Q0Q8d

Gothamgirl ago

Why would I do anything you ask of me? Fuck off.

argosciv ago

Why would I do anything you ask of me? Fuck off.

D'aww. Look at you tucking tail now.

You were so keen on repeating talking points from ES and TTT when you thought they were viable ammunition. What changed?

https://imgoat.com/uploads/c5bde74a8f/181462.jpg

https://archive.vn/2AQAn

https://archive.vn/tgP0q

https://archive.vn/TWPqt

ESOTERICshade ago

You were so keen on repeating talking points from ES and TTT when you thought they were viable ammunition. What changed?

nigga, you is so confused. TTT has their own agenda and I have ignored the whole Jem debate. Stop smoking those mushrooms.

Gothamgirl ago

You people have soured this place so badly with negativity that doesn't belong, I hardly look at pizzagate or Q anymore. Maybe that's your goal.. I don't keep up with ES or TTT I know some of the answers to the questions, and that is it, what is it your business anyways?

Are you like the fucking Voat police? Is this an investigation or a stalking?

I am free to chat and communicate with whoever the fuck I feel like.

I pretty much know all the answers to the end of time and then time. Thanks to cicada3301, so yes what they say and do sometimes makes sense to me.

What I don't do is read these psychotic rants, and stickies everywhere with an unlikable people's biased opinions. Not to mention all the fakes that show up to cheer this shit on. I could careless. I have all the time in the world but none for that. Especially when mods here talk about my children and make up fairytales..

Shizy ago

leave my name out of it

Oh, so you're finally done now? I gave you an out and said I was blocking you and leaving you alone. You wanted to keep it going by running your dumb mouth and talking shit about me.

You want to play games then you'll get it right back bitch, but if you're done and you don't mention my name further, I'll leave you alone to chase after your next piece of strange voat ass!

No need to reply, you just shutting your trap to me and about me is sufficient to let this drop.

Gothamgirl ago

Was I talking to you? Just because your a weak bitch who threw in towel doesn't mean I done with you. I will run my mouth until the end of time if I choose. This is exactly why I call you a fucking lap dog.. This comment wasn't addressed to you stalker...

Shizy ago

Just because your a weak bitch who threw in towel doesn't mean Im done with you.

So I see you're taking my past attempt at pity for you as weakness. Not smart.

This comment wasn't addressed to you stalker...

I'm on this thread you dumb cunt! And like you, I will "run my mouth until the end of time" If I need to jump on to tell a stupid fat hoe to shut her dick holster about me!

I'm gonna start calling you gaping anus since that's what YOU are!

Be careful sitting too long on your drive to your rented pretend land, wouldn't want your rectum to prolapse from all the abuse you've done to it! 🤣Filthy sow!

argosciv ago

LOL!

She ran and got her ESOTERICshade to chime in.

Never a dull moment. Was only a matter of time before he couldn't resist the urge any longer, sudden drop of ccp after he shows up again, probably more to come.

@Vindicator @Crensch @srayzie @MolochHunter @kevdude

Shizy ago

Why is ES replying that way to explain himself when you made that comment to GG?

Looks like GG didn't realize she switched alts!!!!

argosciv ago

Nah he's just running through on a downvote spree against me and giving her +2 upvotes for every one of her comments - you know how he can't help but manipulate votes to keep himself and his allies at neutral or positive ratings per comment.

I sincerely doubt GG is ES.

He's just pissed that all that effort he went to, to silence me, was for nothing.

Shizy ago

But it's fun to make her feel the need to explain herself to us 😂!

Gothamgirl ago

Haha I have posted my body pic on here I am not fat. I have never had anal sex. Again you can't phase me flee..

Shizy ago

I have posted my body pic on here I am not fat.

Whatever body pic you posted, wasn't yours hippo!

I've seen your picture. Haggard and FAT are the best way to describe you.

I have never had anal sex.

Not what I heard.....🤛🏼🤐

srayzie ago

I have tears!

Gothamgirl ago

So post it and yes that is my body, why are you obsessed with it is a better question? I never said you said anything anal sex what a dumb question.

Shizy ago

Obsessed? Like staring at someone's picture and trying to copy their make up? Would that be obsessed?

Pay close attention while I explain this all to you:

Me: you wouldn't want your rectum to prolapse from all the abuse you've done to it.

You: I have never had anal sex

(Why did you assume I meant anal sex? Hmmm)

Me: Where did I say anal sex?

You: I never said you said anything anal sex what a dumb question.

(No honey, you're dumb).

Gothamgirl ago

No I am beating you to the punch because you have already covered every other part of my being, you worthless piece of shit.

Shizy ago

Ouch! That's really hurt coming from a dumb twat!

Gothamgirl ago

Ahh they gave you a few extra shekels tonight..

Tight twat, you nasty cunt.

Shizy ago

they have oh a few extra shekels tonight.

Did you need to borrow some to feed your kids again?

Tight twat, you nasty cunt.

I thought you had a weird lesbo obsession with @srayzie? I'm not into fat chicks or talking about my youthful vagina with them, sorry!

srayzie ago

Lmao! See parent.

You want to play games then you'll get it right back bitch, but if you're done and you don't mention my name further, I'll leave you alone to chase after your next piece of strange voat ass!

See why I love this hoe? 😂

@Vindicator @Crensch @Kevdude @MolochHunter @Clamhurt_Legbeard

Crensch ago

That bitch is so stupid she can't even follow one thought of hers all the way through. She inserts herself in the middle of something, then gets pissy and tells you to leave her alone.

Her and her nigglet offspring should probably just be tossed in a dumpster and lit on fire.

Gothamgirl ago

I have been holding onto this video just for you.

https://youtu.be/p4zR1Basgjk

No I said take it off pizzagate. I have all the energy in the world to keep going.

Crensch ago

All that energy to type online. You must be a couch bison.

Shizy ago

couch bison

🤣😂🤣😂

She's admitted she is!

Gothamgirl ago

Not at all and according you people men can't resist me.

Crensch ago

Can't resist getting away from the smell and the little nigglet?

Gothamgirl ago

It's not nice to talk about your family that way.

srayzie ago

You’re killing me! 😂

Shizy ago

You haven't seen anything yet! If this fat old hoe thinks she's got the IQ and stamina to play with me, she's stupider than her halfbreed ex baby daddy!

Gothamgirl ago

You should really stay out of this one.

argosciv ago

Fucking rofl.

You are by far the weakest link in your entire operation. Absolute garbage-level rambling and talking-point recycling from you now that your pitiful attempt at sowing discord was stopped dead in its tracks.

https://archive.vn/cihkk

I could careless.

Oh? That's why you showed up in my thread elsewhere? Care to inform the group of whose comments you were following or who it was that called on you to stick your filthy nose in?

I wish every single one of you, would leave my name out of it

See above and reminds us all, why it is you felt compelled to try to have a ree about me here.

Gothamgirl ago

Ok try me bitch you will see how weak I am,.this scorpion is don't forget a fucking thing. My sting is deadly.

I rattled out my personal business so you can not lie about me anymore. If you want to keep it going I will destroy you by the end of this. I don't care how many of you show up you will fall eventually.

Vindicator ago

One of your pizzagate mods likes to chat it up with pedos, on a pedo sub

Oh really? Got any proof of this, @Gothamgirl?

Because if not, this comment is pretty damning evidence that you are here to disrupt the pizzagate investigation.

Gothamgirl ago

Yes i surely do and so does Voat, it's all here look it up.

Vindicator ago

So, no evidence, then? Link it, or go to hell.

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/ysRPL

You can't even make up your damn mind lol.

Ok try me bitch you will see how weak I am,.this scorpion don't forget a fucking thing. My sting is deadly.

I rattled out my personal business so you can not lie about me anymore. If you want to keep it going I will destroy you by the end of this. I don't care how many of you show up you will fall eventually.

Hahahaha! For someone who wants nothing to do with this, you sure rattle out a whole lot of threats.

One of your pizzagate mods likes to chat it up with pedos, on a pedo sub, and unlike Crench, I have whole conversations. I can destroy the Q movement in a day if I made a post about it. Do you really want to play this game? You will lose..

Spoiler alert, I already know. You've made it way too easy.

If you could destroy anything, you would have already. But you'll just be another 'debunker' crying the same talking points into the wind.

You couldn't stop it from happening, you can't stop it now.

You maggots don't even understand the truth about Comet Ping Pong and it's been in your face for over 2 years.

Hahahahaha! Oh that's rich. No really, keep trying with this little tough-girl act. It's amusing as fuck.

cc: @Crensch @Vindicator @srayzie @MolochHunter @Shizy (In case you guys want a heads up on the next incoming 'attack')

Shizy ago

Be careful argosciv! Gotham is a descendent of Cyrus and a scorpion! 😂

argosciv ago

Argosciv calls self dragon = bad

Gothamgirl calls self scorpion = good

Logic not strong suit.

#QManLarp!

xD

Ah shiet. Priceless.

I'm gonna go get some sleep so she and ES can piss in the wind and brigade me again.

Gotta put some submissions together after I wake up next :P

Gothamgirl ago

No.. This is my last comment on pizzagate about this. Stop being selfish and get off the pizzagate forum. take it to a new subverse. I am going to be driving for awhile the next 2 days but I will get back to you soon.

Shizy ago

This shit is staying on pizzagate BITCH!

You don't dictate terms and conditions.

Do you want to keep this going gaping anus?

Gothamgirl ago

Haha lapdogs bark just got a little stronger after 6 other people joined into help 😆😆😆

Shizy ago

And gaping anus is almost ready to start buying adult diapers to control the leakage.

Gothamgirl ago

I just turned 43 what are even trying to say? The only thing leaking is your shitty mouth. You sound very childish.

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/zQoFA

This is my last comment on pizzagate.

That sure sounds familiar...

"Smart people will jump ship, and THIS is TOTALLY my LAST COMMENT... until it isn't!~"

You can't help yourself. You'll come back just to try to prove "#QManLarp!", then we'll have a good old laugh at you, like all the rest who've been directed to try their little hearts out in that same endeavor.

I am going to be driving for awhile the next 2 days but I will get back to you soon.

Nobody will listen to you. You already shot yourself in the foot there.

Shizy ago

So it's settled, if gaping anus, the dumb take it up the ass bimbo wants to keep this off pizzagate, then pizzagate is where it will stay! 😂

argosciv ago

She's a special one, that Gothamgirl.

All the bluster in the world but loses her marbles when the kitchen gets a bit hot and nobody is scared of the crap she's relying on to puff herself up xD

Shizy ago

Oh she's special alright! It's always hysterical seeing her feel the need to prove herself to strangers so she gives out WAY too much personal information! She's about as dumb as they come.

Gothamgirl ago

Actually I told Shizy the other day what I was doing renting 50 acres, now I have to get to it. What makes you think I don't believe in Q? You like to spew a bunch of garbage...

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/DoxV5#selection-7127.5-7127.53

Hahahahaha!

Classic.

You like to spew a bunch of garbage...

Oh god, even more classic!

You're not even worth the time at this point.

Gothamgirl ago

Right haha I don't give up blood to snakes. 1 down 12 to go then? #Pg-13Gang

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/ozvzs

Who says anyone is down? xD

You're just so pathetic, you're not worth the time of day.

You go ahead and keep trying, though.

Gothamgirl ago

Ran out of insults already haha I haven't even begun to fight. Glad to see you're keeping record.

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/2XZRo

Ran out of insults already haha I haven't even begun to fight. Glad to see you're keeping record.

Oh I don't need to 'insult' you any further. You're doing it to yourself xD

You going to cry about cyberbullying like all the others pushing the same narrative?

The cute part is that you think this is a fight.

That record? Look again.

It's showing that you need to edit your comments after the fact, to make them sound tougher. Which is kind of ironic since you're talking about running out of insults, yet, need to edit your bluster in afterwards.

ESOTERICshade ago

It's showing that you need to edit your comments after the fact, to make them sound tougher.

I can type faster than most people. If I lay on my back, on the couch, and try to type without a pillow to elevate the laptop I make mistakes. Then I correct them. That ever happen to you?

MolochHunter ago

ooopsie

there goes another alt

toilet flushes

Vindicator ago

Heads up, folks. See parent. Esoteric just forgot he wasn't logged in as Gothamgirl. He just defended himself for comment editing to @argosciv, who was critiquing GG about editing her comments to look tougher.

@Crensch @srayzie @MolochHunter @Shizy

ESOTERICshade ago

Heads up, folks. See parent. Esoteric just forgot he wasn't logged in as Gothamgirl. He just defended himself for comment editing to @argosciv, who was critiquing GG about editing her comments to look tougher.

@Crensch @srayzie @MolochHunter @Shizy

Bunch of us caught on to your game. And your game is this. I"m gonna take time to explain it so that everybody can watch.


Person makes a comment. If someone ELSE replies to that comment, even though the comment was not addressed specifically to THEM, Vindicator make the accusation that "whoever replies to a comment, not specifically addressed to them, is an alt"


Nice try bro, but people respond to comments every day on this forum EVEN IF those comments were not specifically addressed to them. We all do it all the time and I can screen capture thousands of examples of you replying to comments that were not addressed specifically to YOU. You are outed, busted, stone cold, liar, deceiver.


I realize that Voat just got "sent an Angel" and i'm starting to think that paycheck might be "SWEET" reckon?

The_Savant ago

Because God forbid donkeyhote having an alt account.

Gothamgirl ago

Why are you making things up ?

I am gothamgirl only, a female and you are liar.

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ESOTERICshade ago

Heads up, folks. See parent. Esoteric just forgot he wasn't logged in as Gothamgirl. He just defended himself for comment editing to @argosciv, who was critiquing GG about editing her comments to look tougher.

@Crensch @srayzie @MolochHunter @Shizy

You just outed yourself as a liar. Everybody that reads this forum KNOWS that I am not @gothamgirl


I wanted to believe that you have good intentions. I wanted to believe that you were just gullible and naive. Now I know different. Your intentions are not good. You are a lying bastard and you just proved it.


I understand the game now. The new people that come here will never know the truth because they won't know the past. My opinion of you, from a score of 1 thru 10 used to be a 7. Now it just went to a 2. You are a bad player.

MolochHunter ago

you know what, punk? The biggest threat to the integrity of this site is sock puppeteers

the SECOND biggest are users that know this but still ally with you

so it doesnt matter if GothamGirl is or isnt strictly your alt - she's a liability, and you are still a cunt

Gothamgirl ago

Do you realize all this bullshit started because Vindicator stated I was mentally ill, and then used a shitty opinion piece on me that only shows part if the story, to further push his fake narrative? Then immediately sock puppets came out to attack me, my body, my children, and anything else they could make up, the minute I addressed it?

I am allowed to defend myself and fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.

MolochHunter ago

so go elsewhere

Vindicator is a trusted moderator, and us other moderators have to form a defensive block around trusted moderators

I see you think he erred in judgement. Good. Great. So what?

The same dynamic remains your reality: you kick the hornets nest to get 1 wasp called Vindicator, dont be surprised when the entire contents of the wasp nest empty out on you

are you a masochist of some kind ?

Gothamgirl ago

I have my own sub here, and I am fine alone. How about leave me the fuck out of the drama, my analytics will find it everytime. Don't slander me. End of problem. If it bothers you so badly, go back to reddit.

MolochHunter ago

never been on reddit

never will

im not the one who gets all pissy when ganged up on, so why are you still here needling moderators when you know its their DUTY to act as a team/pack in defense ?

thats what's so thick-headed about your response. If it were ordinary users who hunt for drama in a pack, you'd have a point. But you slander moderators, who have no choice but to lock into a scrum

then you get all sooky when the scrum tramples you

stop coming here. You've clearly got such a scintillating life on other websites. Or so you claim, i mean if you really did you'd just give up on voat , you wouldnt need us

but youre still here

must still need us

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/PaseC

GG says:

I have my own sub here, and I am fine alone.

"Own sub", "alone"

https://archive.vn/DfYe0

"Oopsssssssie" indeed.

I wonder if this one can be explained...

Look at the author's comment and the subverse configuration.

Here's the comment by @Vindicator, that the submission links to: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2407372/11978721/

@Crensch @kevdude @srayzie @Shizy

Edit: Ping error, dropped extra ping for Vindicator, repinging Shizy below.

Gothamgirl ago

Yes it was made by Cicada and then turned over to me. Q was made by cicada too...

Vindicator ago

Ha! NICE find, argo. No wonder they wanted to shut you up. LMAO. Gothamgirl is so insane, she'd talking to herself about her plans in this sub. What a nutter.

So is she a basket case that ES has manipulated into even worse crazydom and he's lurking her comments and "accidentally" commenting to make us attack her as his alt? Or is "she" actually just a LARP sock puppet? Intriguing question.

argosciv ago

Bruh, I found this way back when I put up a list in v/pizzagatemods.

GG just gave me the PERFECT excuse to post explicitly why I added her to said list.

Vindicator ago

I never got her ping from that post in her subverse, btw. Not sure why.

argosciv ago

Honestly not sure either.

You may have missed it at the time? */shrug*

I have another theory but I'll shoot that to you in private.

MolochHunter ago

argo, not helpful right now. Im brokering an agreement with GG that she desist from coming to pizzagate if we stop posting shit about her

argosciv ago

Yeah I see that, still though.

Worth keeping a note of the above.

I'll get back to catching up on what else I missed while sleeping.

argosciv ago

See parent, @Shizy.

Had to redo your ping.

Gothamgirl ago

I can't even put a number on how many times I defended the mods and pizzagaters over the last 2 years.

I am still on this sub because I am still responding to a gang who is slandering me and my children with lies. What is so hard to get and why the fuck is that ok?

MolochHunter ago

no one knows who you are IRL

so what the fuck does it matter ?

are you achieving anything constructive, anymore, here on v/pizzagate ? not even the good mods are achieving much good here on v/pizzagate, bc they are constantly whack-a-mole-ing sock puppet shills

AND YOU

align with the sock puppeteers

so i'll ask again - what constructive good are you doing here?

There's only one purpose in you staying here. Your ego-complex is injured

well, that's a sad and silly excuse

go do something purposeful. for real.

Gothamgirl ago

No I don't align with anyone. Stop trying to slander me further, that's sad and silly, and you sound like the typical CONCERNFAG.

But I will take your advice and stay off this sub from this point on.

MolochHunter ago

ok then, cool.

here's the agreement: you stay off this sub to facilitate greater harmony and productivity, and I'll agree that you can call me a concernfag as many times and as often as you need to

if you agree to that, I'll ping all the mods to tell them not to @ you and drag you back into anything. Cool ?

ESOTERICshade ago

you know what, punk? The biggest threat to the integrity of this site is sock puppeteers

the SECOND biggest are users that know this but still ally with you

so it doesnt matter if GothamGirl is or isnt strictly your alt - she's a liability, and you are still a cunt

I am a male. I am not a "cunt" I am a "dick." I could put your I.Q. and common knowledge into a grape seed. I realize that @gothamgirl has said some things that are controversial but lemme tell you something, bro, she has more real world intelligence in her little toe than you will ever squeeze out of your entire life.

MolochHunter ago

real world intelligence'

thats so funny. thats a line she uses herself. almost like ... its coming from the same voice

and I reeeeeally love it when you try on your Faux Indignation. Please use it again, just for me.

its so LAUGHABLE when we know what a nasty piece of work you are

when we know how you have tried a million different ways to upend and compromise and disrupt the important research going on here

its so LAUGHABLE because it makes you look weak and wet, like a discarded vaginal wipe that dogs sniff at in a dumpster

so go on. Use your Faux Indignation again. I'll give you a tip - its more convincing when you press the back of your hand against your dainty forehead and make this face 😩

ESOTERICshade ago

Those of us that sitting backstage, that can see beyond the curtain, are not laughing. Please continue.

MolochHunter ago

you know what evil is ?

sitting behind the curtain and NOT ripping it open for everyone to see

fuck you and your cryptics, VanityFag

ESOTERICshade ago

you know what evil is ?

sitting behind the curtain and NOT ripping it open for everyone to see

fuck you and your cryptics, VanityFag

I'm pretty sure that I am at least 30 years older than you. Remember that term "VanityFag" because when you get my age, and you finally learn some shit, you're gonna wish you had known some shit TODAY

MolochHunter ago

well, while you're Ego-tripping about your oh-so-exclusive red pilling esoterica, normies are staying normie and kids are being raped and murdered

if you really had the goods, and you're withholding it, then you may as well be raping the kids yourself with your tranny hormone-shrivelled dick

and if you are 30 years older than me then you will be much closer to that day where you stand before God and account for why your ego was more important than the kids

ESOTERICshade ago

if you really had the goods, and you're withholding it

I ain't withholding nothing bro. For the last thirty years I teach. I have learned that some of things I taught 20 years ago were not accurate. My point is that we have to be careful what we teach because it only takes ONE sentence of wrong teaching to send someone on a lifetime of wrong actions, which can cause a lifetime of failure, misery, and mishap. Copy?

MolochHunter ago

patronise much ? wow you have such a inflated vision of your 'knowledge'

fuck you

we're not 12 year olds, we're seasoned and hardened pizzagate researchers

and yet all you give us is cryptic bullshit, withholding your 'secrets'

UNLESS of course you are talking to some new user who seems a little mentally unstable and damaged - THEN you regurgitate all kinds of info

say, why is that? what kind of modus operandi is that ? Sadist

Crensch ago

What I like is that nobody can trust you; thanks to you everyone that is remotely trying to spread the same narrative and Chaos as you is suspected of being you.

Or at the very least being a part of the group you are involved with. Doesn't make a whole lot of difference on this end.

ESOTERICshade ago

What I like is that nobody can trust you; thanks to you everyone that is remotely trying to spread the same narrative and Chaos as you is suspected of being you.

Or at the very least being a part of the group you are involved with. Doesn't make a whole lot of difference on this end.

Well no shit Sherlock. You have outed yourself to the max.

Gothamgirl ago

No I was upset last time I am over it. Your gang is weak, and you are bullies otherwise it wouldn't take all of you to attack one person.

MolochHunter ago

'gang'

you do understand that a team of Moderators have to work ..... in a TEAM ?

Gothamgirl ago

No they turn into a gang and start attacking when addressed about there slanderous comments, very uncivilized ghetto trash.

MolochHunter ago

I dont think ive ever interacted with your user account in this dispute

but I'll tell you a little secret you seem to have trouble comprehending

Moderators work in a TEAM

moderators HAVE TO work in a team

this means Moderators have similar if not identical views on what constitutes a Threat to the subverse

If someone exhibits those threatening behaviors or messages , IT WOULD BE SURPRISING if they did not collectively form a unit to Remedy or mitigate the threat

You have been arguing with Mods and accusing them of horrendous things

WHY WOULD YOU NOT EXPECT all the hornets to fly out of the nest you kicked?

Your behavior is totally illogical - you attack Moderators, then complain that you have been 'ganged up on' ? What ELSE would you expect ?

Seriously?

Gothamgirl ago

So mods claim someone is mentally I'll, using half the truth and you think someone just let that shit ride and say nothing...I have only stated facts and you are on the website that has the answers...

It's not a team its a gang who turned on the team, and I don't fear any of you. Keep the attacks coming and I will keep defending. There isn't much more you people can say now. The fat, drug addict, slandering my children, is getting old and is very untrue.

I don't give a fuck what you feel you have to do, I am exposing the disgusting garbage you have all become.

srayzie ago

Your gang is weak, and you are bullies otherwise it wouldn't take all of you to attack one person, with a bunch of made up bullshit.

What about your gang that came after me and @Vindicator after Jem died? You guys stooped so low that some even accused us of being responsible. YOU accused me of planting child porn on your phone, and threatened to kidnap your kid. I’ve never even met you. You even went to the police and made a report.

You guys took my posts about Jem and Sarah and twisted my words, even tho I’ve laid all the proof out there. Once again, feel free to read...

You guys ignore all the facts and spread lies. We’ve been called pedophiles. You want to talk about bullies? YOUR GANG BULLIED US. You all need to stop acting like victims. Vindicator busts his ass here. Hours and hours spent here and all you guys ever do is shit on him. He’s had his name slung thru the mud. I’ve had my name slung thru the mud. Him and I both went thru hell after Jem died, for weeks! People were posting lies about us on other platforms. We STILL have people ganging up on us.

If it’s not Jem you guys use to slander us, it’s going after @Crensch. He stood up to the swarm of lying haters that were attacking his mods. Then you all gang up on him. If it’s not that, we’re accused of being deep state. If it’s not that, let’s blame it on people making Q posts! God for-fucking-bid if anyone brings up Q, even tho Q is what took pizzagate mainstream and WOKE UP a ton more people. How horrible of Q to have us go do our own research and use our own critical thinking skills to expose the deep state, and then meme the evidence all over social media!

There’s a coordinated effort to shut the Q community up. It’s ironic that the ones trying to shut us up the most on Voat, are the pizzagaters. Isn’t that interesting? That’s suspicious as fuck. It’s like you are all working to make people leave pizzagate. It’s pathetic.

You’re getting mean again. You’re talking shit about me without actually saying my name. Same thing. I suggest you back off before we end up having another shit show.

@kevdude @Shizy @MolochHunter

Crensch ago

The bitch is off her meds. She needs to mix some rat poison in there.

Shizy ago

It was pretty pathetic when @Gothamgirl accused you of trying to kidnap her kid. She uses her children to garner sympathy and attention when it's convenient for her, but then other times she makes claims like this:

How old do you think my kids are? I will tell you they're old enough to where they could never be molested

How does that work? At what age could a child no longer be molested?

When they are adults!

Pretty manipulative that she accused you of trying to "kidnap" her kid, when her kids are not actually children!

She's a sick person.

Gothamgirl ago

2 of my children are adults I have 3.

I didn't accuse anyone of shit I asked her a question, which means I was looking for the answer. Don't you know how to read?

srayzie ago

I didn't accuse anyone of shit I asked her a question, which means I was looking for the answer.

If you were just asking a question, why did you go make a police statement? How would I put child open on your phone if I’ve never even met you?

Are you trying to say that you were afraid I wanted to kidnap your adult children? Holy shit lady.

I’ve seen you chummy with that crazy freak TrustTheTruth. I heard that you moved to Poal. Good, stay there.

Gothamgirl ago

Police statement was made based on what I saw in my phone, and it can be done very be easily by taking over someone's Google account.

No that's not what I am insinuating. I asked a question.

So what! Trustthetruth is not different from Q asking questions, making you think and dig. Do I agree with it all? No

Poal? No not me. I think I went to website when Voat was down once, maybe, not sure.

srayzie ago

TrustTheTruth straight up lies. Even if given proof.

Gothamgirl ago

Yes but you are taking it up with the wrong person. i am not that person, and outside of 1 or 2 comments I posted here, which are my own personal thoughts, I have nothing to do with that. I just read like everyone else and honestly, while most of that was going on I was moving I missed most of it.

Hand_of_Node ago

I've just skimmed the above thread, but I understand you're 5' 3" with a small vagina? Penises are generally measured with a ruler. What do you use to measure vagina size?

Gothamgirl ago

I am pointing out I am small for both.

I have had Myelographs yearly, so I have measurements of everything inside my body. I almost died in a car wreck, and then surgery and I have physical issues. Plus I have been told...

Hand_of_Node ago

I didn't see much of it, but the story about kidnapping, and all the very personal details you've dropped in this thread seem an unlikely move for someone who believes people on voat are out to get them in real life.

Gothamgirl ago

You don't know the whole story. I did suspect that, and asked about it, also figured out I was wrong, about 1 of the individuals, and I apologized.

I didn't know then, that FB turned everyone's profile to public for a week.

If they were going to get me in real life they would've already, plus I am really really far from where I used to live.

If I put out so many personal details tell me something said that would lead you to find me?

Hand_of_Node ago

This is the first time I've seen you and this topic, and don't really want to know more, but your height would obviously be a clue when sorting through an assortment of probables. Your vagina size probably wouldn't be as much of a factor... At least for the identification part.

Shizy ago

The illiterate high school drop out who doesn't understand a third of the big words she tries to use is asking me if I know how to read!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

Thanks for the laugh gaping anus!

Gothamgirl ago

I didn't drop out of high school I already told you my education.

Gaping anus? only a faggot tranny would say something like that 😀😂😁😅🤣

Shizy ago

Only a faggot tranny would love being FISTED! Sicko!

Gothamgirl ago

Fisted? Are you stupid? Hell no. My vagina is little like me. Who even talks like that?

srayzie ago

My vagina is little like me

@Gabara and @Clamhurt_Legbeard want pictures as proof.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

vagina is little

3 kids

choose one

Shizy ago

My vagina is little like me.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

Nice try

srayzie ago

I’m glad that she was able to clear up her vagina size on the pizzagate sub. 😂

Shizy ago

She's single again so she's putting that out there hoping somebody, anybody, will take an interest 😂

srayzie ago

Plus she’s a runner 😂

Shizy ago

And men at the gym always tell her how stunning she is 🤣

Shizy ago

This sounds more accurate 😂

Gothamgirl ago

You are really grasping at bullshit. I don't need to try and I don't need to lie. I had c sections. Either i am small or my ex was rather large. Honestly I think both, but go ahead and fool yourself...

srayzie ago

Besides GothamGirl, your height doesn’t determine if you’re loose. Only depth. 🙄

Hand_of_Node ago

Wtf am I seeing in here?

srayzie ago

Which part are you asking about?

srayzie ago

She thought I was after her man and all kinds of stuff. She even went to the police and reported it. She’s been talking g shit about me. But especially my mod Shizy and Shizy doesn’t hold back.. 😂

srayzie ago

This is the chick that accused me of planting child porn on her phone and attempting to kidnap her child. I’ve never even met her

Hand_of_Node ago

That's pretty wild.

Crensch ago

Fucking well spotted.

Shizy ago

Vindicator ago

Yes, their narrative is starting to look like swiss cheese.

Gothamgirl ago

I do not have a gang . I am friendly to everyone except people who are not friendly to me, you were more connected to Jem then I, although I wish I would have given more of my time to her, I stood up for Vindicator when she came to me about getting kicked off.

The people leading Q more specifically on YouTube, the biggest voices of all, are scammers and ex convicts. Your biggest hurdle is a troll from SBBH that hates you, Q, and Trump.

These posts attacking pizzagaters is what's making others leave.

srayzie ago

Your biggest hurdle is a troll from SBBH that hates you, Q, and Trump.

Who is that?

These posts attacking pizzagaters is what’s making others leave

It’s always our fault. How would you react?

Gothamgirl ago

I would do exactly what I am doing now! It is happening to me, right now, by the most disgusting foul mouthed people I ever encountered.

srayzie ago

Poor thing. You should leave and never come back.

Crensch ago

She's already shown how she would react:

"REEEEEEEEEEE I AM A FAT SOW SINGLE MOTHER OF NIGGLETS HEAR ME FART!"

Gothamgirl ago

From what I understand rumor is you were the one who went to fat camp and had surgery.

Really you can't think of anything besides fat and black? Your not even close to correct. My trolling skills were far better when I was in elementary school.

Shizy ago

Your kids are Hispanic, but you're obese so he's partically correct.

Crensch ago

The rumor you made up in your head and told yourself over and over again so you wouldn't feel bad about being a fat sack of shit?

Seems to me, based on your writing, that elementary school was the last time you saw the inside of an educational building. You certainly didn't read any books in your life that weren't Harry Potter or Fifty Shades of Grey

Gothamgirl ago

No I surely didn't it was definitely a rumor I heard here.

I don't give a fuck what you think of me, according to Voat you are a fat faggot.I believe it.

Crensch ago

(Edited 1.4 hours ago), posted 1.5 hours ago.

Nobody tells you that, because you don't go to the gym. You're a fat slob that got dicked by a nigger, and now you have nothing left to be proud of. You exist to eat, and find some beta faggot to provide for your niglets, because you can't even get a nigger to come close enough to you to get between your legs.

Gothamgirl ago

Haha not even close to true. Any of it. I have been to the gym for the last 6 week's straight thanks to the constant Harrassment here on Voat. When I go this is no shortage of decent men flirting with me what so ever. I have excellent boxing skills since a child and I run a few times a week. The reason I am not going tomorrow is I left that area. I will be going hunting.

Never touched anyone in the race you claim. Leave my children out if it. Eat dick and die.

You keep repeating yourself faggot.

Crensch ago

You go to the gym to take wear spandex and take selfies, you fat pig. Nobody is buying your lie of a story.

Keep choking on that aids-filled nigger dick, coalburner. I'm sure your "children" won't grow up to act just like their nigger daddies.

Gothamgirl ago

Already proved my kids are lighter then I. All have same dad. I never take pics of myself. I don't give a flying fuck what you say or do or think of me. Of course I wear spandex to the gym, and I am told many times, I have a cute butt 🤣🤣

You know what I think: I think you caught something from a n***** and you are scorned and projecting on to others..

@shizy another comment editor, sick him bitch.

Shizy ago

Please learn the difference between than and then.

While you're at it please learn how to correctly use your and you're.

I think you missed this due to dropping out of high school so early.

Gothamgirl ago

Actually it's done intentionally to set off Grammar nazis such as yourself. You must really have issues with SBBH

Shizy ago

You must really have issues with SBBH

Not really. Typos and writing bad on purpose for lulz is no biggie.

Continual misuse of the same words indicates a person with limited education or intelligence. It's just reinforcing my conclusion that high school wasn't that important to you.

Gothamgirl ago

I finished high school just fine. I have more knowledge then most females and a very high iq. So what's next flea?

Clitorissa ago

You didn’t prove you’re lighter. You just said you don’t take pictures. Only desperate whores wear spandex!

Gothamgirl ago

Says who? you? Let me get this right, when you or others, wear a certain type clothing you become a desperate whore? Well that's a first a bitch, your blaming clothing, and not your nasty self, wow! 😆😂 Fuck off I got to go..

Clitorissa ago

Haha not even close to true. Any of it. I have been to the gym for the last 6 week's straight thanks to the constant Harrassment here on Voat.

Harassed why? For being a fat, ugly, mentally ill nigger lover? You run? Sure! Take a video.

Never touched anyone in the race you claim. Leave my children out if it. Eat dick and die.

You never fucked a nigger? Are you claiming that your kids aren’t part Nigger?

Shizy ago

I'm dying!!!!!!

Gothamgirl ago

Why do you want to see video of me?

That's an odd request. Are you a dyke?

Nope never touched any black person psycho.

Clitorissa ago

Why do you want to see video of me?

Because I don’t believe you.

Are you a dyke?

No. I have your ex’s dick.

Nope never touched any black person psycho.

You adopted niggers?

Shizy ago

Her kids are south of the border nigger. Still nigger, just not quite as dark. Please see photo for evidence of the browness!

Gothamgirl ago

Why would I give a fuck what you believe ever?

So what I could careless.

No.

Clitorissa ago

Half and half. You wish I was a dyke since you like being fisted by lesbo’s. Why would you choose to stretch yourself?!

Shizy ago

Oh my God she's now resorted to taking pictures of her kid to prove strangers on the internet wrong??!!😂😂😂

Gothamgirl ago

Haha no I am not into degenerate shit and definitely never touched a female. Your the one wanting to see video of me you said it yourself. 😄

Clitorissa ago

Why would I make up shit ? I get told I am beautiful and stunning all the time at the gym.

Fucking lmao @Zyklon_b

Gothamgirl ago

Lol he told me too bitch 😃😁😄 why are tagging him anyways?

Gyna ago

You both are lying! I'm seeing zkylon. We have webcam sex all the time!

Fuck off @cliforissa! I already told You this and you still run your mouth saying you're seein him.

Clitorissa ago

Because me and @Zyklon_b are seeing each other.

Gyna ago

No you ain't! I'm seeing him!

@zyklon_b

zyklon_b ago

lets work this out together ladies.

zyklon_b ago

hey beautiful. good morning,

Clitorissa ago

Hey ;)

zyklon_b ago

I sent you some pics to email, :)

Gothamgirl ago

That's amazing good for you ❤

Clitorissa ago

Why would I make up shit ? I get told I am beautiful and stunning all the time at the gym.

Fucking lmao @Zklon_b

Crensch ago

According to your fat, stupid little mind, I'm a bigger loser than you. Well done.

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/Wo0EF

Aww you got one in while I was looking away.

You didn't disappoint in terms of crying about bullying, though.

Good work ignoring the gangstalking and bullshit from those you're defending, too.

I actually feel kinda bad for you now. Not because you're crying about bullying, but because you genuinely seem to be short a few screws.

Gothamgirl ago

I don't get involved with any of that shit. I stay to myself. What did I tell you everytime you emailed me, talking about everyone?

You forget it was Vindicator who started it up this time by mentioning me in his statements. The sad part is I respect him more than anyone else and I stood up for him the most as well.

I am not mentally ill at all, just tired of being spoken to and about like trash. If I have to stoop to your level then so fucking be it. Your not going to continue dragging me through the mud without a fight.

I don't have the slightest clue as to what is going on with the you or the people you name. I just know they're part of the pizzagate family, and no matter what you believe or say, they have put in work just by being here. The only thing I see by you Agosciv is negativity and hugely overbearing CONCERNFAG. So I am not interested in anything you think or say.

srayzie ago

I am not mentally ill at all, just tired of being spoken to and about like trash. If I have to stoop to your level then so fucking be it. Your not going to continue dragging me through the mud without a fight.

Wasn’t it your “ex-fiancé” that you stalk, the one that made a comment that you were a diagnosed schizophrenic and stopped taking your meds?

Crensch ago

Her being mentally ill is about the nicest thing you can say. If she's really not, she's frightfully stupid.

Shizy ago

She's both!!!

Bad combination!

argosciv ago

https://archive.vn/Wk8aC

Eyy you managed to think a comment through in full, by the look of it this time.

I don't get involved with any of that shit. I stay to myself.

HAHAHAHAAHAHA! Oh do pull the other one.

What did I tell you everytime you emailed me, talking about everyone?

I've never emailed you. I've sent you personal messages via Voat.

We've already been through this one, though.

I am not mentally ill at all, just tired of being spoken to and about like trash.

But you are, and you are.

If I have to stoop to your level then so fucking be it. Your not going to continue dragging me through the mud without a fight.

LOL! Yes I see you've got your precious ES on the case, downvotes and all. Again, cute that you think this is anything worth calling a fight xD

I don't have the slightest clue as to what is going on with the you or the people you name. I just know they're part of the pizzagate family, and no matter what you believe or say, they have put in work just by being here.

Hahahahahahaha!

The only thing I see by you Agosciv is negativity and hugely overbearing CONCERNFAG. So I am not interested in anything you think or say.

D'aww. This is just adorable now. What happened to all that bluster?

Gothamgirl ago

Dude you are an admitted blood drinker calling someone else mentally ill, I have never laughed so hard in my life. You are a SHILL who freaks out if Pizzagate and the word satanic are used together.

You use weaponized words with no value, like a antifa your just a wacky individual, probably sent here directly from tavistock.

srayzie ago

Dude you are an admitted blood drinker calling someone else mentally ill, I have never laughed so hard in my life. You are a SHILL who freaks out if Pizzagate and the word satanic are used together.

Wasn’t it your “ex fiancé” that said you did drugs around your kids?

Gothamgirl ago

Don't know don't care it's not fact, neither was us getting married.

srayzie ago

Worry about your sins instead of someone else’s.

Crensch ago

I bet she's one of those fatasses that watches The Biggest Loser to feel better about her life, but then something brings her back to reality and she looks around and realizes that they have better lives than she does.

Gothamgirl ago

You and the other mods should do exactly that.

srayzie ago

Gothamgirl, everyone sins. In fact, it’s a sin that you’re lying right now. It’s a sin that you are judging others.

argosciv ago

You're the weak cunt whose entire fucking arsenal is devoid of any firepower.

You know that now.

Keep shooting blanks, though.

Gothamgirl ago

No not true I get thank you messages daily. I am still here after many attacks, who is shooting blanks?

ESOTERICshade ago

They done brought in the big guns. An admitted satanist and blood drinker to deal with you. I'm pretty sure we can close the doors on this barn dance right?

https://files.catbox.moe/ki4sol.PNG

argosciv ago

No not true I get thank you messages daily. I am still here who is shooting blanks?

https://imgoat.com/uploads/c5bde74a8f/181446.jpg

https://archive.vn/ndedW

Like I said, you are and you know it now.

"Thank you" messages ey? Who else has said similar, I wonder...

Gothamgirl ago

I have family and friends on here you think this is the only place we speak. You really don't want to know what my kids do for a living...My brother has already went after a few of you on here.

argosciv ago

Keep talking shit, thot.

You've proven your allegiance beyond all doubt and even funnier, your desperation to rely on the past and demolished narrative that you and your ilk manufactured.

Gothamgirl ago

Thot? I don't speak ebonics bitch.

Pizzagate is satanic get over it you failed...

argosciv ago

My, what a change from your usual "playing stupid" tactic.

Fine, let me us terms you're probably more familiar with: Slut. Whore. Cumdumpster. Any of these fit in place of Thot and you know it.

Around and around you'll go. Suddenly changing tune now that you realize how fucking dead one narrative is, you fall back on another.

Go spit in your own mouth.

Filthy fucking cunt.

You've given me a wonderful outlet for pent-up frustration; now comes the part where you thoroughly amuse me by foundering like the pathetic fish out of water that you are.

you failed...

You're going to have to stop gargling cum and save some stomach room for when you eat those words.

Gothamgirl ago

Wow @shizzy another one who edits their comments, sick him bitch.

ESOTERICshade ago

The new voice of pizzagate. An admitted satanic blood drinker that calls you a filthy cunt, cum dumpster, etc....sad state of affairs ain't it?

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15887480

Clitorissa ago

At least one of those three was a nigger because your kids are niglets.

Gothamgirl ago

Lol Stalking the wrong family, your boss isn't going to like that.

argosciv ago

I am not that I have dated 3 people in my entire life. Try harder. You sound trashier then antifa plus you guys use the same untruthful stupidity daily.

$0.02 whoreshill deflection at it's finest.

Wow @shizy another one who edits their comments, sick him bitch.

Transparent edits to fix typos and/or add to the original, versus your unidentified and deceptive edits. Another pathetic attempt at deflection.

Do please keep trying to distance yourself from your dead narrative.

Gothamgirl ago

Ok parrot, where the fuck is any proof of anything you have stated about me ?

argosciv ago

What's that? You're finally realizing how dead your narrative is?

You're bottom-of-the-barrel scum. This was too damn easy.

We both know you're nothing but cheap, used goods. Better off packing it up and just wandering away.

Gothamgirl ago

Mine? Why don't you ever address the shitbags in your own country? What's your true agenda?