First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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ESOTERICshade ago
Are you done accusing innocent members of Voat of being me? How many members will you alienate that will never come back and contribute to this sub again? You done yet? You already ran off all the old regulars that used to contribute here. They left because of your bullshit. You are the most destructive thing that ever happened to Voat. You are cancer. If I owned this site I would ban your IP address and run you the fuck out of here. You are a disgrace of a human being. You need to go to rehab and get your life straight. You have bombed this sub with your dumbass for too long and I wish @puttitout would nuke your stupid ass. You need a break from the internet.
Piscina ago
The problem IS the owner of this site. Voat is now owned by the pedos and their protectors. When Voat showed signs of being an independent source of research, they bought it. The mods are following orders and doing what they're told.
Vindicator ago
Try to produce one iota of evidence for anything you just claimed. You can't, because it's bullshit.
Gothamgirl ago
Neither do you.
Vindicator ago
That was my charitable explanation for your destructive behavior. We've got a number of mentally ill people on this board, including several with DID. I do my best to discern them from actual shills.
Hmmm. Where, exactly, did I "drag you into it"? You are replying to a comment I made to Piscina, who was once again making dishonest assertions she cannot defend with evidence. By inserting yourself into the conversation, you are taking a position supporting her and the proven liar and manipulator Esoteric, whom she was defending.
That seems pretty dumb for someone "smart" enough to "have enough income from royalties, investments, and annuities that I was able to retire at 32". How did you even know this conversation was going on? Is Piscina an alt that you control?
Shizy ago
She just added that when she edited her comment a few hours ago. That was not in her original comment.
I'd say it's a sign of mental illness to fixate on a comment so much that you come back and edit it to make yourself sound more awesome and definately NOT on public assistance!
Vindicator ago
Interestingly, ES also made similar claims about his wealth, as @Crensch noted here.
It's almost like they are trying to provide non-suspicious explanations for the apparently unlimited funding that allows them to run so many alts.
Gothamgirl ago
No nice try you people brought up my income I responded. Probably did the same to ES.
So your connecting patterns. Do you know that's also a huge trait of a skitzo?
Vindicator ago
No, I replied to Piscina, who was spreading lies about Voat being run by pedos. I didn't bring you up at all. You showed up out of nowhere and sperged out, then came back and edited your comment to brag about your income.
Gothamgirl ago
No you or one of the other mods have stated prior I was on welfare. I didn't brag at all, as it's not alot to brag about. You have stated I was mentally ill on this thread a few comments ago. I have every right to add or change my comments as does everyone else. If you don't want individuals to splurge out and comment maybe try to stop talking about us.
Vindicator ago
Here's the whole comment thread. I never mentioned you. You showed up when I replied to Piscina's BS claims.
Gothamgirl ago
It started here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433/15689332/10#15689332
And you link is where I decided to address it.
argosciv ago
Guess what, you dumb cunt.
I've already owned up to every suspicion I ever had about various users at various times. Suspicions which were, of course, festered and encouraged by you and your buddies in the first place, with your brigading, slander/manipulation and disinfo.
@srayzie's already well aware of anything you might think is fodder to use against me.
There's no secret that I not only once trusted you and other subversive cunts that you're aligned with, but also that I once had my suspicions about various users including mods such as her. What you appear to be unaware of, though, is that a shitload has changed and that your anti-argosciv narrative is dead in the water.
Go ahead and, by mission of action, show your undying allegiance to ESOTERICshade, TrustTheTruth and co.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt once upon a time, but, you've now confirmed every suspicion I ever had about you. That's the funny part. You'll try to use my past suspicions about others, as a weapon - little do you realize though, that my suspicions of you have always outweighed and were communicated long in advance of you pathetic moves here.
https://archive.vn/1LAuV
Gothamgirl ago
I don't have alligence to anyone, I am tagged in the truth and support individuals I like and who are here for the right reasons. You are nothing more then a manipulating drunkin scumbag.
Shizy ago
So it sounds like you Trust the Truth right ho?
@argosciv @srayzie
Gothamgirl ago
Your so weak lapdog, caved and didn't block me. Am I supposed to believe anything you say now?😁
Shizy ago
Oh I blocked your dumbass, but I was notified by someone else you were over here running your mouth some more so I thought I'd stop by for a quick laugh at the stupid old skank who thinks she's tough 🤣!
Gothamgirl ago
Haha no you blocked me cause you ran out of lies. I know I am tough, tough enough to take on your whole pg13 gang all at once.
Shizy ago
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
It's well known you enjoy taking a gang of 13 all at once you filthy hooch!
Gothamgirl ago
No it's not, it's another pathetic lie by a pathetic lapdog who isn't smart enough to think of anything original ever...
argosciv ago
Do please go ahead and repeat talking points from ES and TTT.
https://archive.vn/Q0Q8d
Gothamgirl ago
Why would I do anything you ask of me? Fuck off.
argosciv ago
D'aww. Look at you tucking tail now.
You were so keen on repeating talking points from ES and TTT when you thought they were viable ammunition. What changed?
https://imgoat.com/uploads/c5bde74a8f/181462.jpg
https://archive.vn/2AQAn
https://archive.vn/tgP0q
https://archive.vn/TWPqt
Gothamgirl ago
You people have soured this place so badly with negativity that doesn't belong, I hardly look at pizzagate or Q anymore. Maybe that's your goal.. I don't keep up with ES or TTT I know some of the answers to the questions, and that is it, what is it your business anyways?
Are you like the fucking Voat police? Is this an investigation or a stalking?
I am free to chat and communicate with whoever the fuck I feel like.
I pretty much know all the answers to the end of time and then time. Thanks to cicada3301, so yes what they say and do sometimes makes sense to me.
What I don't do is read these psychotic rants, and stickies everywhere with an unlikable people's biased opinions. Not to mention all the fakes that show up to cheer this shit on. I could careless. I have all the time in the world but none for that. Especially when mods here talk about my children and make up fairytales..
argosciv ago
Fucking rofl.
You are by far the weakest link in your entire operation. Absolute garbage-level rambling and talking-point recycling from you now that your pitiful attempt at sowing discord was stopped dead in its tracks.
https://archive.vn/cihkk
Oh? That's why you showed up in my thread elsewhere? Care to inform the group of whose comments you were following or who it was that called on you to stick your filthy nose in?
See above and reminds us all, why it is you felt compelled to try to have a ree about me here.
Gothamgirl ago
Ok try me bitch you will see how weak I am,.this scorpion is don't forget a fucking thing. My sting is deadly.
I rattled out my personal business so you can not lie about me anymore. If you want to keep it going I will destroy you by the end of this. I don't care how many of you show up you will fall eventually.
argosciv ago
https://archive.vn/ysRPL
You can't even make up your damn mind lol.
Hahahaha! For someone who wants nothing to do with this, you sure rattle out a whole lot of threats.
Spoiler alert, I already know. You've made it way too easy.
If you could destroy anything, you would have already. But you'll just be another 'debunker' crying the same talking points into the wind.
You couldn't stop it from happening, you can't stop it now.
Hahahahaha! Oh that's rich. No really, keep trying with this little tough-girl act. It's amusing as fuck.
cc: @Crensch @Vindicator @srayzie @MolochHunter @Shizy (In case you guys want a heads up on the next incoming 'attack')
Gothamgirl ago
No.. This is my last comment on pizzagate about this. Stop being selfish and get off the pizzagate forum. take it to a new subverse. I am going to be driving for awhile the next 2 days but I will get back to you soon.
argosciv ago
https://archive.vn/zQoFA
That sure sounds familiar...
You can't help yourself. You'll come back just to try to prove "#QManLarp!", then we'll have a good old laugh at you, like all the rest who've been directed to try their little hearts out in that same endeavor.
Nobody will listen to you. You already shot yourself in the foot there.
Gothamgirl ago
Actually I told Shizy the other day what I was doing renting 50 acres, now I have to get to it. What makes you think I don't believe in Q? You like to spew a bunch of garbage...
argosciv ago
https://archive.vn/DoxV5#selection-7127.5-7127.53
Hahahahaha!
Classic.
Oh god, even more classic!
You're not even worth the time at this point.
Gothamgirl ago
Right haha I don't give up blood to snakes. 1 down 12 to go then? #Pg-13Gang
argosciv ago
https://archive.vn/ozvzs
Who says anyone is down? xD
You're just so pathetic, you're not worth the time of day.
You go ahead and keep trying, though.
Gothamgirl ago
Ran out of insults already haha I haven't even begun to fight. Glad to see you're keeping record.
argosciv ago
https://archive.vn/2XZRo
Oh I don't need to 'insult' you any further. You're doing it to yourself xD
You going to cry about cyberbullying like all the others pushing the same narrative?
The cute part is that you think this is a fight.
That record? Look again.
It's showing that you need to edit your comments after the fact, to make them sound tougher. Which is kind of ironic since you're talking about running out of insults, yet, need to edit your bluster in afterwards.
ESOTERICshade ago
I can type faster than most people. If I lay on my back, on the couch, and try to type without a pillow to elevate the laptop I make mistakes. Then I correct them. That ever happen to you?
Vindicator ago
Heads up, folks. See parent. Esoteric just forgot he wasn't logged in as Gothamgirl. He just defended himself for comment editing to @argosciv, who was critiquing GG about editing her comments to look tougher.
@Crensch @srayzie @MolochHunter @Shizy
ESOTERICshade ago
You just outed yourself as a liar. Everybody that reads this forum KNOWS that I am not @gothamgirl
I wanted to believe that you have good intentions. I wanted to believe that you were just gullible and naive. Now I know different. Your intentions are not good. You are a lying bastard and you just proved it.
I understand the game now. The new people that come here will never know the truth because they won't know the past. My opinion of you, from a score of 1 thru 10 used to be a 7. Now it just went to a 2. You are a bad player.
MolochHunter ago
you know what, punk? The biggest threat to the integrity of this site is sock puppeteers
the SECOND biggest are users that know this but still ally with you
so it doesnt matter if GothamGirl is or isnt strictly your alt - she's a liability, and you are still a cunt
Gothamgirl ago
Do you realize all this bullshit started because Vindicator stated I was mentally ill, and then used a shitty opinion piece on me that only shows part if the story, to further push his fake narrative? Then immediately sock puppets came out to attack me, my body, my children, and anything else they could make up, the minute I addressed it?
I am allowed to defend myself and fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.
MolochHunter ago
so go elsewhere
Vindicator is a trusted moderator, and us other moderators have to form a defensive block around trusted moderators
I see you think he erred in judgement. Good. Great. So what?
The same dynamic remains your reality: you kick the hornets nest to get 1 wasp called Vindicator, dont be surprised when the entire contents of the wasp nest empty out on you
are you a masochist of some kind ?
Gothamgirl ago
I have my own sub here, and I am fine alone. How about leave me the fuck out of the drama, my analytics will find it everytime. Don't slander me. End of problem. If it bothers you so badly, go back to reddit.
MolochHunter ago
never been on reddit
never will
im not the one who gets all pissy when ganged up on, so why are you still here needling moderators when you know its their DUTY to act as a team/pack in defense ?
thats what's so thick-headed about your response. If it were ordinary users who hunt for drama in a pack, you'd have a point. But you slander moderators, who have no choice but to lock into a scrum
then you get all sooky when the scrum tramples you
stop coming here. You've clearly got such a scintillating life on other websites. Or so you claim, i mean if you really did you'd just give up on voat , you wouldnt need us
but youre still here
must still need us
argosciv ago
https://archive.vn/PaseC
GG says:
"Own sub", "alone"
https://archive.vn/DfYe0
"Oopsssssssie" indeed.
I wonder if this one can be explained...
Look at the author's comment and the subverse configuration.
Here's the comment by @Vindicator, that the submission links to: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2407372/11978721/
@Crensch @kevdude @srayzie @Shizy
Edit: Ping error, dropped extra ping for Vindicator, repinging Shizy below.
Gothamgirl ago
Yes it was made by Cicada and then turned over to me. Q was made by cicada too...
Vindicator ago
Ha! NICE find, argo. No wonder they wanted to shut you up. LMAO. Gothamgirl is so insane, she'd talking to herself about her plans in this sub. What a nutter.
So is she a basket case that ES has manipulated into even worse crazydom and he's lurking her comments and "accidentally" commenting to make us attack her as his alt? Or is "she" actually just a LARP sock puppet? Intriguing question.
argosciv ago
Bruh, I found this way back when I put up a list in v/pizzagatemods.
GG just gave me the PERFECT excuse to post explicitly why I added her to said list.
Vindicator ago
I never got her ping from that post in her subverse, btw. Not sure why.
argosciv ago
Honestly not sure either.
You may have missed it at the time? */shrug*
I have another theory but I'll shoot that to you in private.
MolochHunter ago
argo, not helpful right now. Im brokering an agreement with GG that she desist from coming to pizzagate if we stop posting shit about her
argosciv ago
Yeah I see that, still though.
Worth keeping a note of the above.
I'll get back to catching up on what else I missed while sleeping.
argosciv ago
See parent, @Shizy.
Had to redo your ping.