4truthUnited, I think I appreciate your effort to respond, but I'm afraid you are far too cryptic. I do not recognize anyone with the initials SHH, and google is no help especially since there are thousands of web pages containing those initials, which just happen to also represent Sandy Hook Hoax. I would appreciate a last name or some other tiny morsel to lead me down the right rabbit hole to find this shady character that you say Jones is or was aligned with.

Equally perplexing is your comment about arrests. As far as I know, no one was ever arrested in relation to Sandy Hook, save for this very recent story Sandy Hook arrest which I highly doubt is the one to which you are referring. Wikipedia is at times sketchy on some controversial things, but if there were arrests related to Sandy Hook, they'd still likely be there, yet a keyword search shows the words arrest, arrests, or arrested do not appear even once in the article. You imply multiple people were arrested and belong to some group, and hint that maybe Halbig was a part of this group, but I have not the foggiest notion of which people or which group, and no notion of how or where to begin looking for same.

The only tangible bits of information one can glean from the totality of our exchange is that your dislike for Jones started at the time of Sandy Hook, and that you think Halbig is naive, therefore, I can only infer you believe the official story as presented say in the Wikipedia article is essentially true, and that there was no coverup of any kind. We're sure not going to open up another dialogue about the validity of the Sandy Hook story as Jones and V____Z are enough to handle, so barring some clarification from you on SHH or that group of which some were arrested, I'm going to assume your dislike for Jones was kicked off by him calling it a hoax of some kind and leave it at that.

You didn't bring up his name, but Jones is the only reason V____Z and I remain at loggerheads. You implied something Jones said or did around the time of Sandy Hook changed your thinking about him, and I merely inquired as to what it was. I wanted to know if it was reasonable, or whether you had perhaps misheard or misinterpreted something he said. It happens all the time. Now you are saying there are yet other reasons you don't like Jones, and won't elaborate, but that is your prerogative. I have never produced a single post about Alex Jones at Voat that was not defensive and in direct response to savage attacks on him, so I don't need a lecture implying I'm at Voat to sway anyone.

After saying I didn't want to open another discussion, I might regret the following, but I'm compelled to say a few things in his defense.

At the end of the day, Infowars is a platform for delivering news, information, and commentary on same. Alex Jones cannot remotely be expected to solve any of the problems you are imagining. However, depending on one's definition, he has solved some things for some people. For example, he unequivocally says over and over again vaccines are savaging this generation with skyrocketing autism rates. His solution is stop vaccinating. He's been telling people for over two decades that there is a shadow government that already controls everything and yet still wants to exercise even more control over the daily lives of you and me, and he says this shadow government is now making their final move on a host of fronts, but that would be the same shadow government (run by satanic child sex torturers according to Jones) that is so powerful it sways entire nations and even history this way or that way. How can one Alex Jones remotely solve any part of this problem with nothing more than the Infowars platform?

Look, Jones does what Jones does best, and that is wake people out of their somnambulistic stupor. Jones has no power of law, no police force, and no real means of doing anything other than informing people of the dire situation on a bevy of fronts. If you think he hasn't solved anything, you at least have to ask, what would a definitive solution from Alex Jones regarding any specific problem actually look like? If you can't even describe it, I think that shows you are asking for the impossible. It seems no one's ever really happy with where Jones directs his attention, because he's everywhere at one point or another, which some people read as nowhere. I cannot think of one subject of importance to our world that Jones hasn't addressed time and again. If you can, please name it. His list of past guests is nothing less than astonishing. He has hosted many of the bravest and most independent thinkers of the last quarter century, in fact, thousands. Jones's reporting over the last 22 years is so broad and so deep, one cannot even paint a picture that can do it justice. If you're going to question the truth as exposited by Jones, by logical extension, you have to question the truth of all those people Jones holds in such high esteem he hosted them over and over again. Right now, Jones is highly focused on the current attempt of the deep state to bring down Trump, and yes, some other important subjects have been temporarily shelved, but I believe Jones's read on the situation today is that if Trump falls, the thousand other issues we need to worry about won't matter much.

And I am puzzled that you couldn't tell me precisely why your opinion of Jones changed at the time of Sandy Hook. I was really hoping for an honest answer. I would have liked the opportunity to perhaps give you a different viewpoint in the spirit of friendly discourse.

Interesting. You want to go straight for the jugular. I like it!

I don't particularly want to open another discussion, but I am very curious why you became a skeptic of Jones specifically during his Sandy Hook days. Jones was/is highly critical of the official story, and that's stating his position conservatively. Jones also had Wolfgang Halbig on the show, more than once if I recall correctly. Halbig is a former state trooper and school safety consultant who has catalogued a litany of anomalies surrounding Sandy Hook. He's arguably the foremost expert on the strangeness of Sandy Hook. He has also been persecuted for digging where people do not want him digging. Halbig is positive there was a coverup of some kind and has worked tirelessly to unravel the truth.

Can you be more specific as to precisely what Jones said or implied that made you become a bit of a skeptic at that time?

If there is a reason for the temper, directing it at people who had nothing whatsoever to do with instigating it (like me, or Alex Jones) is highly reasonable. It's unclear whether you are referring to Jones when you say shyster trying to make money off of a very personal matter, but assuming you are, Jones is not remotely trying to make money off same. And V____Z steadfastly refuses to acknowledge that Jones has devoted more time to telling the people of this world that it's run by satanic child sacrificing pedophiles than any other person living or dead. Jones gave a venue to many incredible voices for the children like Ted Gunderson and Nancy Schaefer over and over again when these people were pariah's to the MSM, and V____Z refuses to ask why. With regard to Jones making money in general, as in selling things, Good Lord, how do his critics expect him to pay for the operation? It takes substantial amounts of money to run Infowars, and because Jones does not receive a paycheck issued from Langley like V____Z imagines, he has to earn it, somehow. I cannot say it enough times, Jones has many faults, but protecting pedophiles is not and never will be one of them. His contempt for anyone who would would harm any child cannot be measured by man. @V____Z says he's a man of faith, so then he knows God will measure Jones's work when the time is right.

The US government determined that waterboarding is not torture, so there's that.

I think it was John Yoo that wrote the memo, so we should start with him.

George Webb on Periscope meeting with Jerome Corsi. Working link. https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnxnaLDlOeJO

George Webb on Periscope, he's fine. https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnxnaLDlOeJO

He may be a very nice person, but then he's a nice person with a huge blind spot. Nice people can make mistakes too. Perhaps you did not notice that I too communicated with him on friendly terms for a time. I deferred to him on DS, but not only did he not defer to me on the matter of Jones or temper his opinion in the slightest, he doubled down on his savaging of Jones even though DS himself is on record as having much regard for Jones, with the one obvious exception of not remotely agreeing with his retraction regarding JA. With regard to his generally high opinion of Alex Jones, V____Z said "David is naive" which was an outrageous and hypocritical thing to say.

Yes, the firing squad is out because it is considered an honorable way to be executed.

Criminals traditionally were hung or beheaded...

Thank God for Angels in the Night like you 0:-)

It seems that people are maybe trying to get away from the pizza/pedo gate part of it for a while? It can be really hard on the brain and the soul. Kind of a burned out feeling maybe. Some want more and some can only take so much. I am hoping that is what it is.

I see. I interpret it much differently. I believe there is evidence against them, and there is even more still to be uncovered.

Moving on, to me, means that they come forward and reveal all of their illegal activity and then beg for our forgiveness. This will not happen.

The other option involves a guillotine or the gallows.

Yes, we used to have a lot more researching. Also more posts about clues TO BE researched as well. Now it is a lot of GW, Infowars,, etc. Also, posts about whether anything he says makes sense, etc. What would happen if we just ignored any posts about GW? . Maybe he will just die out then. We have had a few possible false leads on here lately. I am saying possible. There were a couple on 4chan people were wondering about, then GW, and the Keepers (being that Soros has controlling interest of Netflix) and possibly the group of students that are researching the Seth Rich case. Also we had some trying to taint the image of Seth and his family. I am itching to just getting back to researching.

Compromised Darknet pedophiles have inundated this sub attempting to discredit Webb.

The elite are into "death pool betting" and snuff films so you may get your wish if he is disappeared.

Who's John Podesta selling the organs to?

He is not in danger or being followed. He's a bullshit artist bullshitting.

I'm certainly not a board certified psych, but I feel like he has been experiencing some mania in recent weeks. His thoughts are very flighty and he just keeps going deeper and deeper. Something feels very unhealthy about it. I feel he might be well intended, but needs to take a break.

David Seaman is unfairly denigrated in this sub. If you truly think Seaman is worse than Webb, you'll have to defend that. Webb has told a web of lies, actual lies, which i detail here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1899620/9337859

Can you name one lie David Seaman has said? One?

Can you tell me why a reporter/yoiutuber who lies is somehow better than one who asks for financial support?

I ain't happy until Podesta is getting slammed by Bubba for picking up soap for the rest of his days.

I don't think Podesta is the issue here. It is MUCH bigger than him.

Lol. He is warning them. You want a translation? "I DONT WANT JOHN PODESTA TO GO TO JAIL. I DONT WANT TO PUSH THIS INVESTIGATION TO THAT POINT." means he CAN AND WILL DO IT IF HE HAS TO. another translation is FU PODESTA.

It is similar to what Robert David Steele is saying. Give them the chance to come clean first and make amends. If they choose not to do it, then the hammer gets dropped. There are a lot of guilty people here, some going back decades.

Geoge Webb has made many such absurd statements. He is doing his Robert David Steele impression. George Webb is a scumbag spook, but a friendly one.

George Webb, the friendly ghost, The friendliest ghost you know. Though grown-ups might Look at him with fright, The children all love him so.

He always says hello (Hello), and he's really glad to meetcha. Wherever he may go, He's kind to every living creature.

Grown-ups don't understand Why children love him the most. But kids all know That he loves them so, George Webb the friendly ghost.

Kids love hm so.

Do you have a link to the DM's or did someone screen scrape them?

Would changing that to a medium be better for you?

check out GW periscope channel @webb4bernie or his YT .

great fun,and very talkative today.

good things coming

Do you all realize he literally claimed Seth Rich's parents are pedophiles involved through Offutt AFB in Omaha, in the Finders? And no one is suing him or calling him a dangerous conspiracy theorist of the alt right?

WHY IS HE PROTECTED? Why are Voaters HELPING?

I haven't watched all of his videos and I don't pretend to understand all of the nuances of the deep state.

My hypothesis is that every aspect of this is as compartmentalized as we see in US intelligence agencies; with the strings being pulled by a very select few at the top.

All of these varying factors (including Conservatives vs. Liberals and Arabs vs. Israelis) are begrudgingly (or perhaps unwittingly) working towards the same cause. This can only happen if they are motivated by some religious extremism or major compromise. This means that George Webb could be heavily invested in feeding us detailed information about certain factions in order to keep us off the scent of the powers that he serves, directly. My suspicion would be that he serves Mossad.

My gut instincts are that most all of this is a grand production (an extension of the lie machine that is our day-to-day reality) and that we are cluelessly tripping along the path that they have cleared for us.

It sickens me to sound so defeatist; but I truly believe that nothing earthshattering will come of the George Webb production.

Well then what's his point? If he doesn't want him in jail, why go to the ends of the Earth to help do just that?

Behold i saw a pale horse whose rider is death, and everywhere he went, hell followed.

What the hell is this? I quote GW below talking about the alleged money laundering of organ business between Pakistan and the US. What the actual f**k ? Is GW saying that the old business of taking the organs of condemned prisoners is much better???

I'm not trying to destroy the old business, it's the new business I'm taking about..... and I don't think anyone will watch this... eyes kinda glaze over when you talk about this...., no I don't want to bring down the entire network.

It's the new business which is reall really nasty. We've gone from taking the organs of condemned prisoners to all of a sudden shooting 7 year olds in the head and shooting two in Chicago to get the size and weight right for cardiac implants, and that's.... like I said.... if we just go back to the old business it would be much better. Because these things could collapse the whole network.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRRT2AcRUM --- Timestamp from 6.00

Absolutely.

But look at the downvotes,

This is usually a sign you're seeing things right ,on this site.

If you don't attack George Webb,or G-d forbid defend him ,you get downvoted.

That says a lot,and makes George Webb only more credible and interesting,and outs the downvoters for what they are:

Gatekeepers for TPTB

Excellent post @srayzie I used to watch George Webbs videos but stopped after I heard him more than once say he wanted to stay away from the actual pizzagate investigation. Further, he's never banned or complains of videos being removed or twitter being suspended, nothing. When he talked about MS13 and the murder of Shannon Gilbert I questioned him on here on a clear contradiction, no response. It does not fit. A lot of his stuff is a wild goose chase with sporadic videos. It leads u everywhere u don't want to go. He claimed to go see Noreen Gosch, Johnny Gosch's mother but he never even had her on camera and she always does interviews and he talked about meeting her on his short 3 minute video and that was it. I strongly believe he's working for someone to put this out here, some truth some fiction, but no one has time to discifer all this ramblings. Anyone who says they don't want John Podesta to go to jail I have no use for, I'm done with anything more he's doing. He's too protected and if he's truly one of us why did he out his son in his videos saying he's a brilliant medical student who got hired at whatever hospital it was that he mentioned. Makes no sense. And finally, George Webb always announces where he is and where he's heading to next, so my biggest question is this, why has he never been followed or run into people threatening him in the places he shows up or at the houses he is investigating? This to me is an important fact, if it were us, they would be onto us following, threatening, gang stalking, whatever other tactics the CIA use on citizens investigating.

no way... that faggot runs Washington DC and was the CIA handler for 3 Presidents... whoops !! TWO. Cause Hillary lost !!

Podesta >> Italian; A Chief Magistrate of region

As far as I can see, GW doesn't provide evidence for his claims. He simply somehow knows and we're supposed to follow along to the next line of connections, again without evidence. He never says how he got to where he is. His diction is vague and imho, sounds shady and disingenuous.

If he does turn out to be a hero, I'll be happy to hold my hands up. For anyone to say 'I don't want Podesta to go to jail', when he supposedly hasnt yet unraveled the whole story, is to me, pretty damn shady. Let's see, however for every claim he makes, I think we have to ask ourselves, and GW, show us the evidence. Show us the sources. Let's us see how you arrived at these conclusions.

Georgie boy triggered my BS radar months back with his overly assured demeanour. I know he has experience in the intelligence field and is obviously an assertive individual but something felt wrong initially and now this has confirmed my suspicions. Who was he really before we encountered him through Pizzagate as this may be the clincher? Going from anonymity to globally renowned truther takes time and an impressive track record, e.g. his YouTube account is almost ten years old but his first video was only posted one year ago. If he's this good, surely he would have been squawking about issues before this?!

TPTB are the ultimate chameleons/Machiavelli's and mastered the charade of leading the opposition long ago. Webb is almost certainly a Deep State limited hangout and has had an effective impact on encumbering this investigation. Like I and others in this community have stated in the past, we cannot afford to place our hopes on individuals and MUST strive for collective objectivity, concentrating on and valuing the evidence and leads above all else.

<whistling>

Like a few others here, I've been saying it for MONTHS. I'm so happy to see this being discussed openly and others being awakened.

Some of us have been around this block multiple times so have a trained eye. You newbs have to learn the long, hard way.

He is right. Podesta should not go to jail. He should face a firing squat.

WTF! Why is anyone listening to Webb another freaking TwatWaffle traitor! Donna the Ox is a Evil lesbian ProPedo!

Don't want to push to the point that the Evil Vile Satanic Pedo MFing bunghole banging NAD sucking pencil penis Podesta Molesta doesn't go to prison?? Are you fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!

I can not even text this shit out! I am so pissed! Time for all cock sucking HillPedo supporting ProPedos to shut the fuck up and stop wasting our time! Do NOT support this Webb MFing LOSER!

Great commentary by everybody which only serves to keep me sitting on the fence about George. But I'll be remembering these excellent points made by everyone as this case continues to unfold. Regardless of George, John Podesta has served as both Enforcer and Cleaner for the Clintons for decades and unlike George I would like to see him spend his retirement behind bars.

Wait ... the person who is ALLEGEDLY a child molester shouldn't end up in jail? REALLY? And you can't understand why people are suspicious of this?

Fuck George Webb. He's dominated the forum with this BS. He probably is a disinfoist that gives out half-truths all to keep his ego buoyed and get people to follow him. I don't watch him, don't care to, and he's off my list of those to take seriously. I will not be giving anymore of his videos an upvoat, nor will I even open one up to read it.

He Probably Doesn't Want The investigation To end With Their Imprisonment Delaying Or Possibly Sidelining Other Potential Leads/Perps/Victims.

Webb "be careful what you say, you'll give yourself away!"

https://youtu.be/nGZ0ntpSx2Y?t=62

Anybody remember when we were talking here about voodoo doughnuts, and then the next video of Webb's he incorporated ... wait for it ... voodoo doughnuts.

Yeah and Alex Jones is supposed to have Corsi? I think that's who...he's supposed to drop something huge about Seth Rich's murder

Seriously, it doesn't matter what he is or what he says. We only need to watch the MSM to know what not to believe.

I slept about 2 hours last night with a deep sense of foreboding.

This is a CULT OF KID FUCKERS and they are ALL going to hang!! What is wrong with some of you people? Are you just not up to speed on how massive this all is, is that it ?

Webb's loyalty is to Israel and Israel runs the United States through systematic blackmail. It's probably how 9/11 was pulled off. To think this stops with the the Awan Bros ( who Pakis will not extradite ) or a couple of MS13 thugs, is a disgusting affront to humanity. Webb is shepherd who's primary goal has always been to STOP THE INVESTIGATION FROM EXPOSING EVERYTHING.

These fuckers have 2 million Americans locked in jail, have been fighting bullshit wars for 15 years, they are forcing massive migration into our lands that is destroying our communities, they have run $20 Trillion in debt that THEY DON'T PAY. Oh.. and they FUCK KIDS. Let's not forget that

Don't let this moment in history pass us by, because it will never come again. They have horrible plans for all us.

EDIT : @DarkMath is a (((CONCERN TROLL))) and anything he says can be tossed right in the shitter. Just like Webb.

Webb plainly says "I'm a democrat." Thus propagating the divide and conquer myth of choice in elections.

Agree with you 100%

It would be easy to think that you are paid or have an interest in interrupting Webb's investigation from the truth. They best point you make is that he is never banned, and none of his videos get taken down. Someone should ask him about that.. The Democrats and the Republicans are forced to do things, but they are the ones who got themselves in that position. In those positions of authority you are held to a hard standard, so being a coward and violating your oath is no excuse. They get spoiled and would do anything to hang on to power, they are being blackmailed. My problem with Webb right now is the guy he is hanging out with in his vids, he has changed. He is proclaiming he knows who the murderer is, and I think he is pointing away from the real murderers. He is leading people to a different narrative. Here's what people don't grasp about human nature. Talented, honorable, people with integrity start on a project and are 100% true blue. They are revealing serious stuff, someone approaches them and says, "your a smart guy, we like your work, but if we could just make a few suggestions about where this should lead" O, by the way, next time you check your account, don't be surprised when you see 45 million USD real dollars. All one has to do, is put yourself in their shoes. A lot of people would say, 'o no, i would never sell out' lol, would you sell out if they could make it look like you did not sell out.

I am starting to think GW might have a few screws lose. He just says things with no evidence. Then days later sqys the exact opposite withno evidence. His videos today cover info posted here days ago by a well known disinfo/hoaxer. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2305.htm

man i always got a weird vibe of george webb (not the late, great, other whistleblower Gary Webb) and pretty much ignore him (tho I check out some articles here on his work to see if i'm wrong)

Thank you for finally doing what many others refused to do. I've watched part of the video. Here is my early assessment. Admittedly, it will be very difficult to articulate my point in brief.

The description of the video is: Podesta Runs the Enforcement Network for Hillary Since Foster, FU Network Is Total Revenge, Even When Not an Enemy, SEIU Janitors Know How to Put a White Coat On For a Three Minute Pillow Snuff. At 6:20 Webb essentially says that Podesta runs the child trafficking and organ harvesting FU network. The idea that George Webb believes these are not punishable crimes is preposterous. Yes, he said exactly he doesn't want to see John Podesta go to jail, but this is a turn of a phrase. It's no different than when one of these demons looks at their victim and says I don't want to hurt you. If Podesta ever looked at one of his victims and said I don't want to hurt you, would that statement be true? Of course not.

Webb does not mean it. Webb spends an inordinate amount of time shining a 10 000 watt spotlight on demonic Clinton/Podesta crimes and any of you really take those few words literally? He says he ran into Andrew McCabe earlier in the day. Can none of you analyze how that might factor into his comments since he knows they would be following everything he says and does?

Human expression can be very complex at times. He's speaking extemporaneously, and the statement that he does not want Podesta to go to jail should not remotely be taken literally, especially when he spends 99.67% of the other time outlining Podesta's crimes, which are punishable by death in 31 states. You know that, I know that, and he knows that. Psychologically, it was an involuntary defensive statement under the obvious heat of the FBI and many others.

Thank you for providing the youtube video. Webb is either naïve or disinformation. Why wouldn't he want to see Podesta go to jail if he is involved in criminal activity. He is an apologist for Donna Brazille and others that may be involved.

anyone who doesn't want to see John Podesta in jail has some serious issues of trust here, knowing what we know about pizzagate, and his connections. What we need to do is get Hillary Clinton, or Podesta, with the smoking gun and give partial immunity so they can out the 70% of the compromised politician gangsters in our government. They have so much dirt on everyone that granting partial immunity to a big fish will allow us to reel in the rest of the swamp.

@V____Z @rwb2 @ArtificalDuality @yingyangmom @Jem777

I have not missed an episode of Webb. It's like a really good audio book but he mixes in a lot of bullshit with his facts. He hardly ever produces evidence, he just says this guy is the killer with no proof or this hospital is organ harvesting with no evidence. He keeps saying he's doing this series to get McCabe off his back and then he is passing the torch. I'd like to hear what a couple psychiatrists have to say about him

I've learned to speak the language these people communicate with over the past 6 months. Let me translate:

George Webb is suggesting to John Podesta and Donna Brazile that they turn State's evidence and don't go down with the ship. Basically do the right thing.

And frankly given this cluster fuck is so massive and we know it's run on extortion I see a lot of people making deals in the next couple of months. And that's how all these giant Rico cases are finally brought down anyway albeit this one looks bigger than every Rico case in American History combined...oy vey. They go after the lower level people and then work upwards.

There'll be a lot of "come to Jesus" moments too for many of the people caught up in this because the higher the climb the hard they fall. Part of me is looking forward to the collapse but the other part of me is thinking I don't want to watch people start offing themselves because I've seen people do that it's fucking horrible, guilty or innocent, and it's hard to watch. No doubt some people will be falsely accused that's a real possibility too. This could get real ugly.

I feel so strongly about it I wrote a post about it here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1867519

And I wrote one just this morning to help put this shit show in context historically as this thing is so massive it stretched all around the world: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1899585.

:-)

Hey, I like Donna Brazile too but that doesn't mean I would want her to get away with murder (or, more likely, being an accessory to corruption). I am weary of people who are very partisan. None of the people we ever encounter in life are totally awful or absolutely great. Partisanship and weaponized partisanship is making people incapable of talking to each other. Even if George Webb is a limited hangout, he is still providing interesting information. His work may also serve as an early warning system for the criminals he seems to be exposing. But, normally, just the Awan brothers situation should be a huge scandal. That by itself proves that the MSM is involved in covering up the misdeeds of elected officials. His work illuminates certain things. George Webb is not on the pizzagate train, so his comments about John Podesta are framed within his own investigation mission. We should respect that choice since he is spending his own time and money looking into these things. He also posts every day, which is a huge stack of work in itself.