Continuation of the SECOND MOST COMMENTED SUBMISSION OF 2018 since it was still showing activity and has now archived. Also, if you want to see every play in his book, I've written an epic tale about them - both entertaining, and enlightening, if shill-hunting is something you're interested in. (Original text below)
First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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WalnutSauceGoat ago
What’s a “manipluator”, retard?
The_Savant ago
Oh wow, interesting. Not a single point made and a whole lot of ad hominem; the same tactic donkey has used from day 1.
Congratulations! You are the 1000th donkey alt to be found on this sub!
auralsects ago
@shewhomustbeobeyed I'm gonna start pinging you to shit-disturbers like this whose first comment in 17 days is to bolster the fake and gayest part of OPs narrative (that I'm ES).
Clearly they hoped to get me to ragequit in time for the Qtard influx. Has ANY user ever gotten a special tag when you @ him like ES? Also note the irony of a SAVANT boasting that he "finds" my alts that all differed by 2 letters.
The_Savant ago
Are you shitting me Muhammad? (I am assuming this is your real name but let me know if it isn't and I'll start calling you Abdullah instead.) You tried saying on your walnut sauce account that you'd never heard of donkey? You think I'm gonna buy that at all? I've outsmarted you thousands of times by now and you think you can throw me off by exaggerating your retort beyond realistic proportions? Everyone has heard of you donkey; everyone on the site hates your guts and could watch the life leave your eyes without a flicker of emotion.
Hmm, why don't you list off all your alts here so everyone knows what you own up to and then we can see how many you are still hopelessly trying to defend. For example are you still claiming not to be DeathTooMasons? How about equineluvr? What about Zyklon-b? Perhaps you'd like to own up to being ImJewish6000000? I hope this proves my point; you keep many alts with names that keep you anonymous and use them multiple times on the same posts to attempt to skew consensus.
"Hey I'm just gonna start pinging the brigade to make my job easier." You wanna admit to that alt, donkey? You wanna tell us exactly how many times you usually comment on each qrv post and how many times you upvote yourself? No?
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Hi, do you and I have a problem cuz 'Muhammad' pinged me? He likes to ping women to all sorts of vile things. You know this, right?
Are you accusing me of brigading? I need proof. Or else leave me the fuck out of your juvenile, bullshit, Spy v. Spy games, and fuck off back to GA.
@Crensch fyi
The_Savant ago
You and I will definitely have a problem if you continue to take donkey's side and downvote who he tells you to. I said nothing egregious yet he still pings you to make a power move and get me downvoted. You work in the same building as him by any chance? If you're saying he pings you vile shit that you don't agree with it sure seems odd that you didn't downvote him. It also seems amiss that you would get pissed off at me for bringing you into this when you were pinged by your co-worker and then brigaded me.
Also I fucking hate getting pinged for shit I'm not even slightly a part of and if I were Crensch I'd do one of two things:
1) Ignore you
2) Call you a faggot
Fuck off retard, we didn't have beef but we do now.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Listen up retard, donkey knows that I don't think he is @esotericshade and a bunch of other alts he's been accused of being, a lot of people know that. So because you think you got downvoted because he asked me to instead of using his own alt to do it https://voat.co/u/Don-Keyhote. You got downvoted because you're stupid, that's all.
How I vote is not your concern. I will downvote you if I choose. I will upvote donkey if I choose. I downvote you not for questioning me, but for being wrong.
Are you the voting police?
You accusing me of brigading?
Prove it, you festering piece of excriment.
@Vindicator @Crensch Front row seats.
The_Savant ago
Wow, you're just another fucking retard who doesn't understand any of the points I make. You sure you're not donkey as well? You wanna confess to being GothamGirl? You're on the same sub human level of comprehension.
I don't give a fuck if I get downvote brigaded; CCP means absolutely nothing. What does matter is what it then tells me about you. You claimed that he pings you in shit that you disagree with as a way of distancing yourself from his brigading and reputation that comes with it:
However this argument is totally void if you then take his side despite him making no real point by the end of his comment and being dumb enough to confirm that he is in fact WalnutSauceGoat. He also stopped responding when I asked him to name all his alts that didn't follow the donkey formula. He hasn't made any point other than that brief ad hominem against me, so tell me; what exactly are you upvoting him for and what did I say that warranted a downvote? Oh that's right, you're just another co-worker.
"I'm not downvoting whoever Donkey tells me to, this was just a coincidence that I upvoted him despite providing no substance and you not getting anything wrong." You realise you would have to disprove it anyway? You so realise that very basic concept that when I accuse you of something that only you can see... you are the one that has to disprove it. I don't have to prove shit. In this case you proved yourself a liar to help me out in this case, yet somehow you're dumb enough to prove that you did it after you admitted to it.
Hello GothamGirl - the wife of Zyklon-b (better known as Donkey.)
He can't until after you've pinged him, fag-shit. Since he hasn't responded I can guarantee he doesn't give a fuck; one of the responses I told you he'd give you.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
It doesn't matter how many words you try to use, you will never be able to make yourself look smart. Not ever.
The_Savant ago
Well it seemed you didn't really understand a single point I made so I had to walk you slowly through from the beginning.
Did you know your husband donkey once How do you do, fellow kids'd me? I just said some colloquial bullshit I always say in normal conversation irl but it didn't fit the persona of the wise old man that he had built for me based upon how often I've outsmarted him. I've had my ego stroked plenty of times by how often you two surrender to me and I know my IQ; FYI I'm smart.
Let me flip this premise on you:
Oh and I saw the time-lag between downvoting my comment and replying with that short sentence. Smart move - a long reply would only have dug you a larger hole. Also, I now know you read it all and simply have no rebuttal.
Furthermore I would recommend you stop downvoting me twice. If you want proof of your brigading from me I think I've got it now chief.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I just downvoted you.
I don't care if you think that I'm somebody else's alt.
But you do look a little foolish accusing the PG archivist of being in cahoots with the same people you are accusing of doing harm to PG.
Show me the bad archives I posted?
Show me how I posted bullshit submissions to forum slide?
You don't like me, I don't care.
You are still a dumbass. Too late to change that now.
@Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @heygeorge @think-
Someone's filthy alt is accusing me of being all sorts of users.
Just because i don't suck floppy v/greatawakening titties. Shameful.
The_Savant ago
No one fucking cares. Stop pinging people.
If you didn't want to get accused of brigading you shouldn't have downvoted me twice. Since you haven't done that this time I'll take that as a confession.
Nothing but ad hominem. Classic Donkey brigade. Can't explain why he downvoted me - in fact repeatedly refusing when asked. Yeah okay, you're an asset.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I just downvoted you.
I'll ping whomever i wish. Do you think that the mods and designer of PG shouldn't know that you are attacking?
You haven't proven that I downvoted you twice yet. Here's my alt. @SWMBO show me the downvote. Try this one @hewhomustbeobeyed, made it for self protection, and in case hubby wants to troll me sometime.
@Vindicator has a list of donkey alts I gave him last year, the ones that I could tell anyway. Maybe if you stopped acting so suspiciously by trying to lump me in with the rest of the users you're persecuting, I wouldn't downvote you.
@Crensch @EricKaliberhall - Is this the best troll GA can come up with?
The_Savant ago
Obviously you can ping whoever you wish, I'm just telling you no one cares and you now have evidence of that. I'm bored now. I've explained a great many things which you're refusing to disprove. You wont post screenshots of your votes on your other accounts and even if you did, I don't trust at this point that you don't have other secret alts.
You described me as "Somebody's alt" despite the fact that I have no upvotes to my name and am getting an immediate downvote as soon as I comment. Every. Fucking. Time. Now I suspect you're accusing the opposition of the things you're guilty of.
You kind of fucking owned yourself here though. I make many points and you divert attention and say shit like
This was never about that. I only ever accused you of supporting shills and brigading me. Now you want me to prove something I never even said? That's fishy as fuck. You're a fucking retard. You still - after all these years of losing arguments to me - you think you can outsmart me? Why don't you give me another How do you do, fellow kids? That really made me feel good about myself.
As conversation went by it turns out you disregard many proven facts. It turns out you don't think ES is donkey despite the evidence. It turns out you don't pay attention to Q despite the connections to Trump. It turns out you're using the same dumbfuck catchphrases as GothamGirl (self-admitted Donkey's wife) such as "floppy titties."
You talk like EsotericSHILL, anyone ever told you that? Very few other people ever reply twice to the same comment.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I don't like editing my comments, unless I know I'll do it before the other person has an opportunity to respond. Unlike you SNEAKY FAGGOT.
@SWMBO @hewhomustbeobeyed no downvotes, ever.
Kek.
I've seen no "evidence" that they are. You assume that I have read one word you posted prior to donkey pinging me. I think this submission is vile, and therefore wasn't reading any of it.
You prove he is, or leave me alone. It's my opinion, no one has presented me with facts.
You are correct, first time ever? Show me the rules that state I'm supposed to follow a DJT/2020 campaign larp. I am not required by law to follow Q. Fascist much?
saggy titties look like they just got released from a milking machine. Better? I can think of more, i was lazy. This is the best you got?
Are you trying to make me jealous of @gothamgirl, @Don-Keyhote are you married?
You like to talk behind peoples backs @ESOTERICshade this guy thinks we're friends. LOL
Bless your heart.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
@crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @heygeorge @think-
FYI ^ It keeps editing comments. Very bad shill. Should put on watch list.
The_Savant ago
I wish I didn't hate your guts so I could follow through with my word
No, I think you're the same person. This solves the "behind his back" problem.
I have not changed the meaning behind any of my points, so at this point, based your accusation, I can only conclude that you never read any of my comments properly and have no clue whether or not I altered the overall message? You did just admit to not reading the context of the discussion you were involved in which probably explains why you're losing so badly. If I were you, I'd give up my unconditional allegiance to Donkey as a result of this embarrassment - he gave up a long time ago because he knows how this has turned out ever time prior .
I have not edited the meaning of a single one of my coments or made any new points. It must have been nice once you saw that "edited" text to maybe finally come up with an excuse for losing so badly though. That's okay.
That was the time you replied twice, you could have just added it in while editing you dumbfuck retard.
As you can see, my edits usually only come immediately after posting as well. If you can notice the difference on the comment I made where I edited it long after I'll give you a BIG medal, however it was such a tiny change I don't think you could. Nice scapegoat though, right?
Did you only just realise how badly you just lost? If I were you I'd be butthurt too.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
See this sentence - "So because you think you got downvoted because he asked me to instead of using his own alt to do it https://voat.co/u/Don-Keyhote. You got downvoted because you're stupid, that's all."
I edited it, and it is still awkward. 10+ HOURS BEFORE YOU RESPONDED
ME = 1 edit.
in your responses to me.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3289546/19529336
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3289546/19530960
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3289546/19532569
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3289546/19536875
TOTALS
Me = 1 edit
You = 4 edts
HOW COME YOU DON'T EDIT YOUR OTHER COMMENTS IN THIS SUBMISSION, ONLY THE ONES AGAINST ME?
@Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @heygeorge @think-
Definitely GA shill
Bless his heart
The_Savant ago
Editing is only problem if I'm going back and changing the meaning of everything I said and making it look like you weren't answering the points I made when in actual fact you adressed them appropriately. If I fix a spelling error immediately after I post a coment there is no problem. You have no excuse for losing this argument despite how hard you may try.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Bless your heart.
Crensch ago
You have already asked me to ban you. Then somehow you don't want to be banned. Then somehow the guy going after the pedophiles is himself a pedophile, just because you said so.
I'm really quite sick of your pings and your drama. I didn't agree with you on the other and I'm not really interested in what else you have to say at this point.
Keep pinging me and you will piss me off.
WhiteRonin ago
@crensch
Your mum’s lumpia is soggy
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
All you had to do is ask, I already stopped since it seems that this guy might be posting https://voat.co/u/ThePuppetShow's data. I am archiving atm and haven't checked yet but if he is, the data may be flawed. That was going on before I learned to archive, I believe.
Stopped pinging you and left it to your mods and think- to figure out, since she former mod.
I figured since it's your sub and submission, you'd want to know. Won't ping again.
Crensch ago
Okay, then stop responding to me. Stop referencing me. Stop acting like you know me or have anything to do with me.
The_Savant ago
Damn. If only someone could have predicted this and saved you a lot of time.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Bless your heart!