First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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ESOTERICshade ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2760917/14334939
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
How they came to the conclusion that you're DeathtoMasonsASAP is beyond me. This seems like it's all about their cult allegiance to Q. I give up. I've already got way more documentation of some stuff I needed from this board regarding the Q psy op that disturbs me highly and it has absolutely nothing to do with being anyone's sock puppet. This is just pathetic. They're really freaking butthurt any time someone says anything bad about the Q psy op, and that's about it. If you go over to Great Awakening you see srazyie tag EVERY MOD in this forum on nearly every new Q post. There are other sock puppets to be exposed but I'm not going to be the one to do it. I already suffered enough for talking to them. I'll just continue gathering my evidence and keeping it to myself. If anyone is interested in it, feel free to PM me.
Deprogram yourselves before it's too late for you, Q followers. Or as they told me at the dawn of Q, "Wake up Alice"
srayzie ago
Wtf? I’ve always gotten along with you. There are certain situations where us mods tag each other because we need to be aware of what’s going on and stay connected, why is that a problem for you? A lot of people I know don’t believe in Q. So? I don’t know why you’re bringing me into this.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
It was the quickest route to demonstrating that all pizzagate mods, except for one, are in the Q anon mindset. It was not an attack against you, personally.
srayzie ago
I understand. @Heygeorge isn’t a Q follower either.
heygeorge ago
Oh I follow, vaguely, I just don’t... believe.
srayzie ago
But you are verifiably a tard. 🙄 That explains it.
heygeorge ago
Fucking lel you got that part right
srayzie ago
😂
ESOTERICshade ago
I always take up for @srayzie and I support her, because I KNOW she is a genuine good person. I don't believe in the Q thing psyop but @srayzie is solid.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
My point is that every mod here on this forum is pro-Q, nothing personal about srayzie. I've witnessed personal friends of mine go nuts over Q and attack people who disagreed with their opinion about who the best journalists are etc. Then later they come to their own conclusion about that person that they previously attacked people about criticizing. Nothing does it quite like Q. I just can't believe anyone is still following it after everything that's come out regarding that whole psy op, not to mention the 666 Nemos character with the heroin / opium trafficking charge and the pilot's license. You'd have to be completely unaware of all of it not to think something is wrong with the picture. And I'm sick and tired of reading about it and hate to see this board descend into Qtardia.
think- ago
You are twisting reality as usual. You perfectly well know that I'm not into Q.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @ben_matlock @srayzie
Vindicator ago
Hilarious. Look how hard EYPJ and Esoteric are working to try to shift this massive exposure of their attempts to corrupt and subvert Voat to being all about Q. LMFAO.
I guess we now know WHY they're here, don't we? This just gets better and better.
think- ago
I'm glad I stashed enough popcorn.
@Crensch
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I'm well aware that you claim to be against Q. Whether or not you actually are, is only something you know. All I know is how it looks from where I sit where the mod team with the exception of like two or three people have attacked me for the past several weeks.
srayzie ago
Deep state tactic 101... BLAME Q!
@Vindicator @Think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock
Vindicator ago
It's quite hilarious they don't realize that their dishonest, manipulative behavior coupled with the absolutely desperate attempts to discredit Q has completely the opposite effect.
SchlongKeyhote ago
Lol Qs biggest pizza related lead was dropped by me 6 months prior. OOPS
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
That's fun and all, but has nothing to do with me.
Vindicator ago
You're doing the majority of the heavy lifting. Hence the hilarity.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
That's cool and stuff, but if you're actually laughing at me because I fell for a Media Matters troll and you guys harassed me for 6 weeks about it without sending me to the evidence and you're still laughing, that's not a nice thing to do.
EricKaliberhall ago
Shut your fucking cock-hole you nasty whore.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I am taking my "fucking cock-hole" somewhere where it will be appreciated by someone mature enough to act like an adult. You're apparently not that, even after an apology. If you guys had evidence you could have sent me two months ago when you first attacked me and you didn't, that's not my fault for not believing you. Your behavior lately doesn't endear you to anyone - except perhaps Zyklon B and the numerous accounts you guys tagged over here from some other forum yesterday. You can do what you like, I'll keep on relying on God for help & inspiration. You keep relying on verbally abusing women, if that is what you want.
EricKaliberhall ago
You are not a women, you are a whore... A disinformation whore.
srayzie ago
I could say the same about you. I don’t see how anyone can look at all the evidence and things falling into place just like Q has said all along and wonder why in the heck some of you can’t open your eyes. If nothing else, you should be wondering why the deep state is in such a panic. Why does the media want to shut us up? Why are we being censored on every platform? Why does the deep state hate Trump?
We’re not retarded, we don’t just listen to Q. We use critical thinking and don’t depend on our ((( media ))) to tell us the truth. I live and breathe this.
I would normally keep quiet but you’re dragging my name into it. @Think- is not a Q supporter. I suggest you look into everything before you talk shit about Q supporters. Q took pizzagate mainstream. How does most mods believing in Q create a problem for you?
I don’t expect people to believe if they have barely dipped their toes in the water. It’s been almost a year now. We’ve seen amazing shit. There is not a doubt in my mind that Q is legit. If you’re a Trump hater than that explains it.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I never said a single thing about me being a Trump hater.
It is only a problem because I was targeted by the mod team for either:
1) replying to ES
2) being anti-Q
3) unknown reason
Crensch ago
You defend ES. You still talk to him as if he's a legitimate voice here. Writing your number one as if just replying to him is a problem is dishonest.
I don't give a shit about your position on Q.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
that's where it started... with Eric, around 6 weeks ago. Go back earlier than that, everyone the mods was cool with me
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
You must think this is the only site on the net that isn't controlled, and the mods behavior is just a coincidence. Ask yourself why they sticky and promote anonymous gossip about an imaginary battle behind the scenes of a savior fighting for us? Ask yourself why they ignore that Trump is connected in every way shape and form To the Controllers Rotshchild, Rockefeller, Goldman, Warburg as well as the Jesuits and him winning the seat as CEO of USA inc, the corporation? Let me guess, they are just incompetent? Bad investigators? Blind love for Trump? Blind faith in Q, who they don't even know the entity behind the anonymous gossip? They are incompetent but not corrupt? That strangely is ES theory. Please, tell us how you come to this conclusion and why you feel the need to reason with them?
Crensch ago
And you never stopped to wonder why? When your behavior changed and your posts became shit tier that needed editing constantly?
It wasn't possible at all that esoteric was lying to you? It's just always the people in power that are wrong?
I heard you seemed to be a decent user Once Upon a Time.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I'm not a mind reader. But I have the memory of it being where this started. I don't know why you guys dislike me personally if that is not the reason. My posts did not change, your opinions of me did.
srayzie ago
I’ve never heard them trying to target you. But they have issues with ES. I haven’t seen what you’ve said. But, people will judge you by who you hang around with and defend. I’m not saying that’s what’s going on. I’m just saying that’s how it goes.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
there's really no point in discussing it further, I'm only defending him because I see a real lack of evidence, and it seems biased. The comments against me were shocking.
ESOTERICshade ago
We still have one mod that does not believe in the Q phenom. That mod is @think- and is also the best mod we have. I praise @think- regularly and get attacked by think for praising her. She seems to think that she is so powerful that I am praising her because she is all powerful.
I don't praise @think- because I think she is powerful and my fate somehow rests in her hands. I praise her because I respect her mind and her judgement.
think- ago
I don't give a shit what you think about me. Your game is over, Esoteric.
No, you don't. I have called you out for being a liar and a manipulator, and I will continue to do so as long as I am a user here.
FUCK OFF, and do it ASAP. Don't forget to take all your alts with you.
You are a digusting piece of shit, @EsotericShade. It should tell everybody here something that I forget that I'm a lady when replying to you, frickin asshole troll.
@Vinidcator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @Shizy @KatHarzso
ESOTERICshade ago
I sent Amy a few hundred dollars when she got attacked by the pedo criminals. I'm a terrible person.
MolochHunter ago
bank receipt or it didnt happen
think- ago
Look everybody, Esoteric admits to have groomed @EffYouJohnPodesta. I almost feel sorry for her.
You just acted like any bad actor would, Esoteric. You befriended people here in order to use them later, trying to influence the actions of other users on this sub.
You created alts for vote brigading, and then you went on to vote brigade.
This must have cost a lot of time. And would explain why you never really posted that much, wouldn't it?
You did 8 submissions on v/pizzagate in the last 8 months. Mostly just copypasting news stories.
And you didn't even had to mod like @Vindicator, @EricKaliberhall or me.
You pretended organ trafficking was a terrible important topic for you. But when I asked you why you didn't seem to be eager to post anything about it, I never got a reply.
You just built a profile for plausible deniability. Just like you pretended to support the v/greatawakening sub and @srayzie, and since you hate Q, it was obvious that you only voiced that 'support' for plausibe deniability.
TL;DR: You have acted like any ShareBlue shill or CIA black hat would have acted.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @MolochHunter
ESOTERICshade ago
Yep. I sent somebody some money. I am indeed a nasty actor.
That is true. I am burned out. I'm baked. I'm done. I just don't have much left in me. That is true. I know more about all this shit than I would ever admit to knowing. I have been doing this for 23 years and i'm damn tired of it. I wish I didn't know all that I know. I would be a lot happier if I didn't know it.
I have seen a kid get cut up on a table like a piece of meat and thrown into a pile with other kids. They do not even sedate them before they cut them open and whack out the organs. One kid can equal 1.5 million dollars. That is how much money is in this depraved racket. What have you seen? I bet you have not seen what I saw. Have you ever seen little kids stacked in a pile like firewod? I doubt it.
I am myself. I blame me for being what I am. I feel fairly good about myself. Its not fault that people don't understand some of the things I undersand. I wish I didn't know some of the things I know because I would be a lot happier.
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Crensch ago
Look at that emotional bullshit he's trying to playoff as legitimate response.
"Oh poor me I saw a kid getting cut up on a table. You should believe me because I saw a kid getting cut up on a table. I know more about this than you because 23 years and I'm totally not talking about the 23 years being how long I've been shilling."
Vindicator ago
Yep, that would be taking a page from his own playbook, as expressed in one of his early submissions where he was first setting himself up as Grandpa Truther, the Sage of Pizzagate. Esoteric explains effective manipulation tactics:
@think- @srayzie @Shizy @kevdude
Shizy ago
How nice of him to let us all know how he operates.
Crensch ago
@think- @vindicator
think- ago
Go and look up the meaning of 'grooming'. Since you pretend to be a genuine PG researcher you should know what the term means. /s
Rubbish. You spend your time here vote brigading and grooming people. You only did a certain number of posts for plausible deniability.
That's a valid self-assessment.
Not a valid reply to my statement.
Not interested in any of your stories. But since you claim to be so terribly burned out, give yourself a rest. And don't forget to delete all your alt accounts before you leave. FOR GOOD.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @kevdude @srayzie
think- ago
@Crensch @MolochHunter @kevdude @MadWorld @Shizy: please see parent.
Shizy ago
OMG! Wow! He should just shut up now and stop digging his hole deeper.
Vindicator ago
No...he should keep talking. This is the most fun I've had in years. :-)
Shizy ago
Haha! You're right!
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
That's what she claims.
srayzie ago
It’s true, @Think- is my friend and is NOT a Q supporter. What is the problem if she were?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Apparently you missed the way theme's have spoken to me over the past 6 weeks, all cuz responded to ES and Eric didn't like it.
I tried tagging you on Twitter to ask if you were cool with how they were treating me and you didn't reply. I asked you on here to help with a removed post and you said you don't know submission rules. Think has attacked me a lot and unfairly. If they would post the links that go with the screenshots, you'd see these ES comments are almost ALL in reply to me, but they are also almost ALL anti-Q.
Vindicator ago
Exactly! That's how the brigading and astroturfing you were helping him with work.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I made that comment before I read your other comment and now I'm dealing with the fact that I had no idea he was all the other people that I didn't like on here and that I was talking for like 2 years to him. As I told Crensch I did have some subtle doubts but your mod team attacking me made me psychologically immediately assume that you were wrong about him, like I knew you were wrong about me. I stand by my opinion of Q anon, as it has absolutely zero to do with ES and everything to do with other factors that I mentioned to you in PMs.
I didn't mean to help him with any type of astroturfing!! Ask Crensch.
Crensch ago
All I have is you saying the same. Your actions from here on out will prove that, or not. I won't vouch for you, but I won't pursue someone that is admitting they were wrong (probably). The march from here on won't be easy, and nobody will vouch for you just because you've made a tentative peace with them, but you'll wind up in a better place than you were soon enough. I guarantee it.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Yeah, I don't have a lot to say on here ever since last November so when I came on here I would selectively reply to stuff, until I saw something interesting or annoying and would comment. Now I'm extremely creeped out and far less likely to respond to other people on here. My suspicions go far beyond just the couple of accounts you mention in this post and it's starting to look like an unsafe environment in general. At least for me. I guess not for some of the people who do come here as actual employees of something / someone doing the literal work of Satan.
think- ago
Yes. And this implies that she stops lying and making false claims about me and twisting my mod comments. And attacking me for getting attacked by a user.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @srayzie @EffYouJohnPodesta
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I'm not going to apologize every time you make a comment that you're still mad. I already apologized to you. You never apologized to me for attacking me over and over, and I'm not expecting that to happen. have a nice day.
think- ago
No, I haven't. Btw., you forgot the links to back up your claim.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @srayzie @Crensch @Shizy
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I'm sorry you feel that way. I already apologized to everyone. You need to read through the thread to see it. I'm not aware of any rule that I have to provide links in every comment to prove my personal opinions. If that's the rule, then you would also have to prove your attacks were not unfair. And I don't think that is the rule. Have a nice night.
Crensch ago
It's not a written or spoken rule. Voat is about evidence, and backing up your claims - that's the culture here. The more you can do that, the more respect you'll get, and the more people will take you seriously.
If i had made this post above with no links, or very few, who would have believed me? And when my mods are accused of wrongdoing, and reported to me, I need evidence. Right there. It's not my job to dig for it and prove the accusation correct.
Generally the way apologies work on forums like this is that when you've been wrong, and people respond to your previous comments, you just tell them your position has changed, that you apologize, and don't really address the attacks on your previous position, as they no longer apply. Just my .02 there.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Yeah, ok and I agree. And to her, sorry, but I'm not going back to re-apologize to her every time she makes a comment, or dig up old screenshots of mod comments to me, especially not at 10 pm while I'm getting in bed. Have a nice day everyone.
srayzie ago
I had a huge amount of people subscribe so haven’t been on Twitter much and aimget so many notifications that I miss some because once I load the page, the notifications disappear.
@Think- is NOT a Q supporter. The mods have been dealing with ES for a long time. All that set aside, it has nothing to do with Q.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
OK, if you say so. I was told I'm a whore, cunt, shill, on a list for execution, and will die soon all by the pizzagate mods and all because I replied to ES and they didn't like it. Best I can tell, it's Q related... This post proved that to me in reading through all the carefully cropped comments...
srayzie ago
Reading thru this, I’m seeing that you are defending ES over and over. It’s more likely that you put yourself in the middle of something that you know nothing about. ES and the mods have a long history from before Q came along. ES knows this. He’s a big boy can stand up for himself. If you want to put yourself in the middle, then you will be judged and treated differently. You’re the one putting yourself in this situation. Trying to blame it on mods being Q followers makes me feel suspicious of you. That’s causing division. I don’t see how you think you’re helping anyone out.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
you missed everything... it's ok, don't worry about it
srayzie ago
How in the world does a mod calling you names have anything to do with Q?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Every time I see a comment on this post that was screenshot it's about Q, or in reply to me... I don't know of anyone else on here who is openly anti-Q except now, a couple of others who commented here.
ESOTERICshade ago
@think- is the real deal. She is sharp. She is smart. She has good judgement. She has proven herself with her own actions. I have nothing but respect for @think-
Benkitchen105 ago
I think Q is psy op bullshit. This sub has become nothing more than Q leads and no self investigation
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Your name is familiar Ben Kitchen. I've always thought so. And I agree with you.
ESOTERICshade ago
Of course it is. A five year old could figure that one out. I go back and forth in my head if its a good or bad thing. Coleman Rogers is the Q. If Trump will run the illegals out of this country for us maybe its a good thing. I don't want us to become like Europe and have Somalian nigs raping our women. Fuck that. If Trump can at least do that, I guess its a win for us.
Not yet, and I have always fought against that happening to this sub. Somehow this sub still serves as a hub and an investigative repository of cabal happenings as it relates to the MK Ultra happenings in our atmosphere. Will we be able to keep it that way? I don't know.
We do know this >>>. They seek to get our children when they are young and they turn our children into cabal serving robots. We have to fight that with whatever tools we can find. No holds barred. War is not fair, its fucking war, and we have to look at it that way.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Very inspiring comment. Here here!