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ESOTERICshade ago

For starters there are so many enormous holes in this story I can hardly decide where to begin. The only thing I can probably agree with you on is that Highlevelinsider has some sort of agenda or is just an intelligent kook larper.

In order for your theory to hold water Paul Ryan would have to be one of the good guys and Glenn Beck would have to have not be a lying lunatic.

Glenn Beck is a lying lunatic. Have you seen this off camera footage with Glenn Beck rubbing Vicks Vapor Rub under his eyes to generate tears for the camera, and laughing because it is burning his eyes? Yes, the lunatic lying Glenn Beck rubs Vicks under his eyes so that he can pretend to cry for the camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmMsTkc9ms

SoberSecondThought ago

In order for your theory to hold water Paul Ryan would have to be one of the good guys and Glenn Beck would have to not be a lying lunatic.

Yep. That's what is necessary for my theory to hold water. I never said Glenn Beck was a perfect human being. He's a showman, a carnival barker, an agent of persuasion. So is Trump. So are most politicians. We don't get the luxury of only dealing with sober, quiet, bland people who never lie or even appear to lie. We have to decide who is more believable among the choices available: Trump or Hillary? Jim Comey or Jeff Sessions?

If you set your standard of proof sufficiently high, you not only won't finish an investigation, you'll never start one. That's my take on the subject.

ESOTERICshade ago

I don't believe Paul Ryan is one of the good guys. There is a possibility that Ryan thought he saw an avenue to blackmail the pedos into a situation he could take advantage of. That might be the extent of his "goodness" in my eyes.

I don't know if Ryan is in the pedo clique or not but I wouldn't put it past him to attempt to blackmail them if he isn't. These days a person can't have Paul Ryan's job without being a blackmailable piece of shit themselves.

SoberSecondThought ago

These days a person can't have Paul Ryan's job without being a blackmailable piece of shit themselves.

If I could accomplish just one thing, it would be to persuade you that you don't actually know this. That is the whole point of what I am saying. All these "insiders" agree with you. @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt agrees with you. Consider the possibility that the pedosadists are weaker than all these people are saying. They have never blackmailed everyone. They have bribed and bullied far more than they have brownstoned.

I'm bringing you evidence that we have a chance to beat them. You're pissed off at me and calling me crazy. Just consider the possibility that this is something they wanted and worked very hard to achieve.

Vindicator ago

I'm bringing you evidence that we have a chance to beat them. You're pissed off at me and calling me crazy. Just consider the possibility that this is something they wanted and worked very hard to achieve.

So, SST, how do you see knowing we have a chance to beat them via your expose changing the situation? What do you hope people will do differently, if they start looking at these players differently?

I used to enjoy Beck's history lessons back when he was on Fox, but the guy has been a nut from the getgo and went off the deep end over Trump. Ryan's body language screams "lying slimeball" to me. Both are clearly pussies who would only expose pizzagate if they had very powerful protectors. That said, I saw what the deep state disinfo machine did to Sarah Palin, so I keep an open mind and realize not much of what meets the eye in the media is what it seems.

I personally couldn't give two shits if pedocrats are few or many; I am going to keep at this until they are exposed and purged. One thing I know is true: they are definitely weak -- because that's what vice does. It enslaves, stupifies and weakens. Corruption is it's own downfall, ultimately. They won't prevail.

But how do you see your expose changing things? What are we not doing that we should be?

4_InquiringMinds ago

@Vindicator

I personally couldn't give two shits if pedocrats are few or many; I am going to keep at this until they are exposed and purged. One thing I know is true: they are definitely weak -- because that's what vice does. It enslaves, stupifies and weakens. Corruption is it's own downfall, ultimately. They won't prevail.

I must be having a senior moment/I just upvoted you lol.

Vindicator ago

LOL. I upvoat everyone as often as possible.

SoberSecondThought ago

Okay, so I am planning to spend a whole day just on ways for activists and researchers to exploit this, and a day just on ways for journalists to do so. I'm too tired to dig up all the links and such tonight. But let's do some highlights.

First, it seems clear to me that the people trying to attack Brock's two Media Matters slush funds don't realize what he is using the money for. If they did, I think they could use that fact to get more support for their petition, raise money for a lawsuit, things like that. That attacks the Clinton machine in a very direct way. Now Brock will waste still more time and money in responding to lawyers' letters, discovery hearings, and so on. Plus it's one more thing that the establishment media will have to cover, if only on the bottom of page 23.

Second, the Milwaukee part of the Wisconsin recount is a time bomb for them. They admitted it was when they brought in the HLI sockpuppet to /v/pizzagate to steer us all away from it. It isn't a coincidence that Mike Pence is heading up that voter fraud commission. I don't know why they haven't moved to investigate Milwaukee yet, but it can only strengthen their hand and speed things up if activists and journalists start pushing on that front. There was a non-partisan commission headed by a former president of the American Statistical Association that looked at the Democratic primary and concluded it was rigged -- Election Justice USA. It would be fantastic if they started working on Milwaukee. Also, there are a couple of firebrand lefty journalists who see through all the Democrat Party corruption, Lee Camp of Redacted Tonight, and Jimmy Dore of the Young Turks. Point them to Milwaukee. They will be a nightmare for the Clinton camp because they aren't Pizzagaters and they aren't alt-right or New Right or whatever. They're sincere progressives who are really pissed off. Give them a weapon, they'll use it.

(Also, you may remember that a staff member of Pence's voter fraud commission was "caught" with child porn by NCMEC a little while ago. We know NCMEC is dirty because they employ Brian Podesta. So why is NCMEC ratting on a government pedo (if indeed it wasn't some kind of setup)? Could it be to cast doubt on whatever Pence's voter fraud commission does in future? Plus of course it takes a little bit of the heat off NCMEC if they put out a press release publicly highlighting their role in the takedown. My project puts that story in a whole new light, doesn't it?)

There are a bunch of other points along these same lines that I intend to make, but I'm just plain bagged. I've been going nonstop all week. So I'll close with this, about Ryan and Beck and Pence. I personally disliked all these guys when I started this project. I couldn't understand why Trump picked Pence, I didn't trust Ryan, and as you say, Beck is just so weird. But something FBI Anon said has haunted me. He said that Hillary planned to launch full-scale war on Russia within two years of taking office, and he said that he and his wife had a suicide pact if Hillary did win. This was before we had proof of FBI Anon's bona fides from the FBI archives, so I believe he did write that. (Later FBI Anon posts I don't find convincing.)

I think whatever it was that they told Beck shattered him. Like maybe the document he saw only talked about the pedosadist network in Congress, and he didn't understand that pedosadists run most Western governments now. Like maybe he didn't realize the true scope of what would come crashing down. He treated it like a big news story, not what it will eventually be, a popular revolution against an entire form of government. Take a look at his interview with Tucker Carlson, on Tucker's first day in the new time slot at Fox. He's apologetic, talking about how he learned that he can't change the world. Tucker is almost gentle with him, like he doesn't care about the last few years of weirdness, and he knows that Beck has been through something terrible. Why was Beck his very first guest in his new Fox gig? What does Tucker know?

There's a whole lot of stuff like this to get through. Tomorrow I'll set up an FAQ/timeline post, and we'll see what new evasions HLI has cooked up. Thanks for asking the questions.

srayzie ago

Okay, so I am planning to spend a whole day just on ways for activists and researchers to exploit this, and a day just on ways for journalists to do so.

That's what you're paid to do. It's not out of the goodness of your heart or you wouldn't have used lies.

4_InquiringMinds ago

and we'll see what new evasions HLI has cooked up. Thanks for asking the questions.

For the record you are a psychopath and I am your partner~according to wic. Just thought to let you know how evil we are :)

This is the result of my asking sincere questions in a civil manner. Now why would someone want to stifle inquiry? Why indeed?