First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think- @srayzie @EricKaliberhall @kevdude
I trust there are no issues with me posting this given the amount of manipulation of this subverse that has gone one just form what's shown above?
think- ago
Well, we always said that proven shill activity would adhere to Rule 4, so I'm fine with it.
Especially, since I was able to see myself during the last couple days what Esoteric did when I went through his comment histories, and those of his alts.
I have a reputation to uphold of being impartial, but I must say that in this case, I was really shocked to see what this man has done. Unbelievable.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock @Kevdude @Srayzie
EricKaliberhall ago
This submission should be stickied for a long time... Maybe a 'important' flair as well.
think- ago
Thanks for the suggestion, done. ;-)
auralsects ago
At least for me (idgaf about Esoteric) This is blatant defamation of character with no basis, i.e. slander.
I've never even done any shill activity; I simply have unpopular opinions. My alts were literally the same name.
Great shame on you, vile slut
think- ago
Getting called 'vile slut' by you is definitely a badge of honour, Donkey. :-)
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @ben_matlock @srayzie
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Why can't you guys argue with facts and class. Slinging around curse names at each other is lame.
Vindicator ago
Really? Donkey claims no evidence, after dozens of links of evidence nailed his ((ass)) to the wall, and you repeat his bullshit claim of no facts and bitch at think- because he called her a slut? Your account needs to hire a better writer.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I don't have a hired writer Vindictor. I'm myself. Are you claiming that Donkey is ES? I'm a little lost there.
Are you serious that your claim he's DeathToMasonsASAP is credible with the evidence you posted? "Replied to a deep thread" is not proof.
Crensch ago
Thanks to his slip up, it's entirely possible that it is though. If that's the hill you want to die on, I've got lots more where that came from. Maybe I'll think it worthwhile to post that along with digging through your own comments and maybe finding a link between you and him that looks suspicious enough for others to conclude you're either part of the same group or you are the same person.
Do you want to volunteer to go into that microscope? Who knows, maybe I won't find that, but I'll go through your submissions and rip you apart and show you that you're a useless cunt that has never provided anything useful to pizzagate whatsoever. Maybe I'll make a megathread on that.
Nobody ever believes me when I tell them these things, but I'm done being nice. You can tuck your tail and slink away, you can apologize, or you can keep at this and find out why so many usernames acting like Jews and shills have been deleted because of me.
Will you be the first username ever to make the smart move here? No. You won't. Because you're a stupid cunt.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I already gave you all of the alts I've ever used on here. We're not the same person, and I'm reasonably sure you know that. You can microscope me all you want, you'll only come up with the conclusion that I'm Amy James the entire time. I don't know his real name, I just know mine. None of you on here use your real names. I'm the only person I know of who does, except for a few people who got doxxed. My friend Jenny Hatch said that she just doxxes herself to avoid problems and I've been using my real name on the internet since 2006 so, I never saw any reason not to do so, until perhaps 2017 when I first had serious problems from stalkers.
Crensch ago
Do you only read every other word that people write or something? Read my words again. Then look at what I've done to esoteric. Then read my words again. Then have someone smarter than you read my words to You and explain them.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Crensch you can't expect me to come to this whole thread with anything but a skeptical eye, after the way that you have behaved towards me for the past 6 weeks. I may be corrected here about ES. Calm down please.
Crensch ago
Look up tone fallacy, then look at what website you are on, then literally fuck yourself until your brain starts working.
How I've treated you has no bearing on anything, and it won't change. In fact, I've been nicer to you than I probably should have been. If there is such a thing as kid gloves from me, you got them.
I would say you're welcome, but I didn't do you any favors by coddling you.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Sorry, but we're in completely different leagues as far as "kid gloves" are concerned. I never asked for kid gloves but I guess common decency would be nice. Have a great night.
Crensch ago
You never asked for them, but you got them anyway. I reserved common decency for people who don't appear to be subverting my website. I reserved common decency for people who don't attack my mods and support Those Who attack my mods.
You want a little common decency without earning it? Talk to my mods. They're fucking Saints. They're so goddamn patient and nice that it drives me nuts. If esoteric hadn't caused me problems, I wouldn't be here calling you a cunt and making you feel stupid and worthless.
You want to be a little bit of a cunt and still have people be nice to you? Drop esoteric. Apologize to everyone. Then shut your whore mouth when it comes to defending yourself or esoteric. Your current position is indefensible and the only way out is a complete and utter admittance of fault and wrongdoing. Then someday, months from now, you can be a little bit of a cunt and my mods won't call me to deal with you right away.
Everything you're getting right now is a direct result of your own actions and you need to own up to that like a God damn adult instead of acting like a blameless child.
You had your chance to play nice before I made this post, and you made your choice.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
OK, that's great... notice I still never returned the insults the same way that you do. I don't feel stupid or worthless actually, and now that it seems that I was shown actual evidence, I'm glad you went to such lengths to protect the forum. So thank you.
It appears that he is probably actually aural sects like you said. I'm kind of shocked, though not completely... I guess I was just waiting to see proof because I was attacked for following him and automatically assumed it was B.S.
If you guys had any IP address to prove it I assume you would have done hat, so I apologize.
I'm not going to stop defending myself
Actually I just told Vindicator I agreed with him now, after the link he gave me in the comments from 6 months ago - would have been nice to have read that one before, but I didn't know it existed.
I admit I was mistaken, but I didn't come to my conclusion from wrong doing.
There you go again calling me a cunt when I had no idea and I was basing my opinion on information I had at the time, so I'm sorry, but I wasn't "being a cunt" in my own eyes.
I don't see how. Nobody is perfect and not every person on this forum is perfect but please excuse me for being slightly paranoid about the mods after Eric started attacking me out of the blue and the rest of you followed suit.
Have a nice night and thank you for this post.
ESOTERICshade ago
Nope. I'm not Donkey. The Donkey hates my guts. He gives me hell. I sort of have a love/hate relationship with the Donkey. But I am certainly not him.
Crensch ago
I don't "turn to insults" as if they're some kind of last resort of the desperate, you stupid cow. You get them when you deserve them.
You're welcome.
Nobody but the site owner can get IP addresses. We work with what we have, and most of us old goats have gotten damn good at knowing when someone isn't quite right before we can prove it.
He posted a link that wasn't in my OP?
Your intentions do not excuse your behaviour - no matter what happens going forward, you picked the wrong horse to bet on.
Eh, if you can act like a fucking decent human going forward you might be OK. Get your shit together.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Yes I believe so, it was to a 6 month old thread outing ES with aural sects responding where ES should have replied and didn't. hang on I'll get the exact link to his comment so you'll see. What I don't understand is why when I was attacked for replying to him, nobody just told me about that thread in the first place but it's ok. Bridge over troubled water.
ESOTERICshade ago
I make it a habit NOT to reply to every comment made to me. Waste of time and energy. If I replied to every comment made to me I would have to live on the internet. Not gonna do it.
Crensch ago
Edited now for clarity - the paragraph with auralsects and "donkey".
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
might wanna make the whole part about that username bold...
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
thanks =)
Crensch ago
That was in my OP already. I didn't tell you what to look for, so maybe that's why you overlooked it.
It's a huge deal, but I wanted others to come to that conclusion, and assumed they had. My bad on that one.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
ok, please forgive my slip up