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srayzie ago

Before anyone believes what this person is saying, please read my last message to them. I kept it to use anytime they chose to return so I didn't have to write it all out again. Everything below will prove that this person is lying and is obviously a paid shill....

I am going to repeat this one more time. What I am about to say PROVES this person is lying.

For those of you who do not know Tory Smith, he was a YouTuber that started posting in 2015. I think some of his earliest videos got deleted. Supposedly he was abused as a child and it continued into adulthood.

If you were to watch his videos, you would clearly see that he was mentally ill. Possibly from past mind control or something of that nature. I will explain why. He made videos regularly exposing child trafficking.

He would name names, agencies, politicians, military officials, bases, Milabs, everything and everyone he knew to be involved in child trafficking. The White House, Congress, Pentagon, Military, Air Force, SOCOM, AFRICOM, NORTHCOM, FBI, CIA, NSA, DARPA, Obama's, Bush's, Clinton's, and the Pence's...

He focused a lot on Mike Pence because Mike Pence was the governor of Indiana and Tory Smith lived in Indiana.

The reason I say I think he was mentally ill, is because he would also make other claims. SoberSecondThought posted this himself so knows this.

He uses these gifts to make a mind-boggling number of accusations. His core claim is that there are 41 secret trafficking centers around the world, created by the Bush family and run jointly by the CIA, FBI, DARPA, NSA, and various alien reptilians, insectoids, 'tall whites,' non-physical spirits, dark entities, Nazi war criminals, and so on. In these centers, high-ranking people can pay to rape and murder children (he cites a price of $41,000 per child). These are abducted in the tens of thousands from all over the world, by the Chinese, Queen Elizabeth, the Air Force, NATO, the Rand Corporation, the Vatican, the Los Angeles city council, and countless others. Tory has named hundreds of people as guilty of child rape and murder, including the Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, Rahm Emanuel, James Comey, Dick Cheney, 70 U.S. Senators, and so on.

John Brennan (former head of the CIA) is a shape-shifting alien who has personally assassinated Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston's daughter, Paul Walker, Antonin Scalia, and Robin Williams, using a stun gun. He had to shoot Michael Jackson 42 times with the stun gun to give him a fatal heart attack.

Tory is also a martyr of the first order. First, there is the torment of him psychically viewing and relaying the details of countless thousands of child murders, often including the names, ages, and favorite foods of the kids. He is "injected with weapons-grade anthrax daily" by DARPA. He has been raped in 14 of the 41 centers, including three times by Rand Paul(!), but has somehow managed to survive. The government also continually interferes with his computer, supposedly making it hard to upload his videos on a regular schedule (although 202 videos in eight months seems pretty regular).

This is pretty exhausting and loopy stuff to watch, and I have not by any means viewed all 202 of his videos.

I used to watch some of his videos because he tripped me out. I felt bad for him. I watched the poor man slowly deteriorating physically. He thought he was being poisoned for exposing everything. I think it was probably cancer or something.

SoberSecondThought said...

It's very much like when people are taken in by Hillary ClintonYouTube. It's an act, but lots of perfectly nice, sane people fall for such an act.

Wow. Whatever. These aren't even comparable. So I gathered some pictures to prove that Tory Smith was seriously dying and that it wasn't an act. His health declined very rapidly the last 3 months of his life. Here are 3 images.

https://imgoat.com/uploads/53b3a3d6ab/54418.png

I could NOT BELIEVE his response.

So then all those zombies on The Walking Dead, they're real too? I'm well aware that his appearance changes. But (a) the video isn't HD, and (b) if you're going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay a guy to say crazy slanderous things year after year, you can probably splash out for a makeup artist to help him look hollow-cheeked when it's time to end his run. I know people who do more elaborate looks just for Hallowe'en.

WTF? You can read our comments back and forth starting here. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2218774/10932468

Here are a couple of videos showing you Tory Smith's health declining rapidly.

December 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCMljEmH5mY

July 2016 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh4sno9WgsU

This person continues to tarnish the name of a man that died. The poster even says he has no proof that Tory Smith didn't die. So he is basing his claims (this ridiculous series that he investigated for a year) on something he can't prove. On something he ADMITS HE CANNOT PROVE! On something that anyone with a brain can look at and see that the man was clearly dying. It wasn't an act. It wasn't makeup. He clearly lost a lot of weight and was getting weaker and weaker every week.

I have stated over and over that I don't have an opinion on rather or not HLI, WIC, and everyone else is the same person. I am not defending them. What I do know is that what this poster bases his claims on is a LIE. He's working very hard to discredit posters from here, reddit and 4 Chan I believe. This is DISINFO and a limited hangout. This person has lost all credibility. He continues to write me trying to prove he's right and tries to use his manipulation tactics taught to him like I'm stupid. Analyzing me and my thought process. It didn't work. It won't work.

I'm tired of wasting my time having to repeat myself because this PAID SHILL won't accept defeat. He fucked this project up. His gig is up. He isn't getting his October bonus check. He needs to put in some applications somewhere else because he SUCKS. He didn't expect someone to know all about Tory Smith. Well, he FAILED.

I encourage anyone believing this "series" to not base your opinion off of anything to do with Tory Smith because he may have talked about some of the same topics as HLI and the others. Tory talked about MANY things like that.

I find it sick that he continues to slander the name of someone who died and cannot defend himself. Tory Smith had loved ones. The shill poster is so disrespectful and heartless.

If he doesn't have solid proof, like he admits, he should STFU and not post this crap here. Go back to the drawing board. I think this person needs to be banned from the Pizzagate sub. I can't believe that this has gone on now for what? 11 days?!

So that I don't have to waste all my time continuing to repeat myself every time this shill pings me, I am just going to save this and paste it every time. I have better things to do. The only reason I'm commenting right now is that I don't want you guys fooled by a deceptive shill that disrespects the dead and cannot accept defeat.

SoberSecondThought Save your manipulative comment tactics for someone else. I'm schooled in psychology. I am onto you.

SoberSecondThought ago

Hello again @srayzie.

For the benefit of anyone wondering, although @srayzie obviously disagrees with me, I do not think she is one of the numerous sockpuppet accounts operated by HLI/Senate Anon/WIC. She has made something like 6,000 comments and/or submissions during her time here, and that is way beyond what anyone would do to create a sockpuppet.

If people want to see my original post about Tory Smith, it is here. As for your argument above, it comes down to two main points.

  1. You just cannot believe that Tory Smith could have faked his death. Okay.

  2. You won't engage me on anything else.

I have stated over and over that I don't have an opinion on rather or not HLI, WIC, and everyone else is the same person. I am not defending them.

This is not fair or reasonable. Even if you believe I am wrong about Tory Smith, you don't get a free pass on all the other work I did. It's not just that they're the same person, it's that they work for David Brock, and are funded by Herb Sandler, and are in regular contact with James Alefantis. That matters, to you and to everyone who comes here. You don't get to pick one part of a large project and throw out everything else.

I don't like arguing with you because you're sincere and passionate and you've put in a lot of time on Voat. I have been polite, and have not accused you of anything worse than letting a criminal gang trick you. But you don't get to dismiss my project by picking one thing you don't like, concluding from that one point that I'm a liar, and dodging off with "I don't have an opinion" for everything else. These other questions are why we are here. If I show the financing trail from Sandler to Brock to HLI, that matters. Grow up and take responsibility.

srayzie ago

You were building us up for the big reveal. Tory Smith wasn't just one little theory or mistake. That was your big aww haw moment. That made the whole theory crumble. The more I looked, the more I saw that most of what you said was based on your opinion and not on fact. Then, you started to defend Paul Ryan and and discredit WIC which makes me think that there is more to Racine than I thought because you were pushing it so hard. I appreciate you being nice. But I don't want anyone duped. It's not fair to discredit other people here without hard facts.

@Wisconsin_is_corrupt @ESOTERICshade

SoberSecondThought ago

Tory Smith wasn't just one little theory or mistake. That was your big aww haw moment.

No. This is what I mean about your tossing all my work without acknowledging it.

Let's talk about HighLevelInsider. He started operations on /pol/ the day after Seth Rich was murdered. For ten months, he told an astounding number of bizarre lies, about everything from having a cure for cancer to the British Royal Family secretly controlling Saudi Arabia. He told everyone that Trump was as bad as Hillary and wouldn't win. Then he told everyone that 80 percent of Washington was controlled by blackmail and the swamp would never be drained. Then I posted about the Milwaukee recount, and exactly one week later, he set up shop here with a completely new, toned-down persona, and tried to take control of research by "revealing" that James Alefantis had a connection to the Jesters, and the Jesters had a connection to Adams Morgan.

I proved that he wasn't revealing insider information, he was passing off the work of Voaters as his own. I proved that he was using sockpuppets here, like ababcb. None of that is opinion. As a result, HighLevelInsider has stopped posting, and ababcb has stopped posting, and Voaters no longer bother researching the Jesters.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that getting rid of one or two sockpuppets isn't going to stop a determined disinfo campaign. So then I showed where the money and resources and planning were coming from -- David Brock's Media Matters. I also showed Brock's emails arranging funding from Herb Sandler, who is literally the absolute center of Pizzagate. He's the one who asked John Podesta if he'd do better "playing dominoes" with pizza or pasta. I showed that he is paying someone to come here and manipulate you. No one had done that before I did it.

You don't get to dismiss all that by parroting ESOTERICshade and WIC, saying that I "started to defend Paul Ryan," as though the 10,000 words of logic and evidence that came before Paul Ryan were nothing. If Wisconsin really is corrupt, then a massive, provable voting fraud in Milwaukee is something you should care about. You should be pissed off that WIC and ESOTERICshade keep dodging that subject. You should be confronting them as liars.

Again, you have a responsibility to the other people in this community, to acknowledge obvious facts. You don't get to say that my whole theory crumbled, without ever once acknowledging what my theory actually says.

ESOTERICshade ago

We know HLI is a shill. So what? Your attempts to tie him to WIC are so clumsy it just shows that something is wrong in Racine. I told you this would happen, you didn't listen.


For ten months, he told an astounding number of bizarre lies, about everything from having a cure for cancer to the British Royal Family secretly controlling Saudi Arabia.

Saudia Arabia is a puppet and a tool of the western banking oligarchs. Its true. Just because even shill HLI said it does not change reality. There are many cures for cancer, cannabis oil being one of the best. You're not very bright.


Then he told everyone that 80 percent of Washington was controlled by blackmail and the swamp would never be drained.

Sadly enough its true. Percentages might be lower but its true. By pedophiles no less.


Then I posted about the Milwaukee recount, and exactly one week later, he set up shop here with a completely new, toned-down persona, and tried to take control of research by "revealing" that James Alefantis had a connection to the Jesters, and the Jesters had a connection to Adams Morgan.

You keep trotting that dog around like we give a fuck. It has nothing to do with the pedophilia work we do. That is a voting problem.


As a result, HighLevelInsider has stopped posting, and ababcb has stopped posting, and Voaters no longer bother researching the Jesters.

You're full of shit. The posters in this sub ran his ass off.


I also showed Brock's emails arranging funding from Herb Sandler, who is literally the absolute center of izzagate.

No you didn't. We knew that long before you even arrived here.


He's the one who asked John Podesta if he'd do better "playing dominoes" with pizza or pasta. I showed that he is paying someone to come here and manipulate you. No one had done that before I did it.

We knew that long before you arrived. As a matter of fact you are talking to the person that actually found out what it really meant.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2050893


You don't get to dismiss all that by parroting ESOTERICshade and WIC, saying that I "started to defend Paul Ryan," as though the 10,000 words of logic and evidence that came before Paul Ryan were nothing.

Your larp has nothing to do with pizzagate and is crafted to distract from the details about child trafficking in Racine, or lack of.


If Wisconsin really is corrupt, then a massive, provable voting fraud in Milwaukee is something you should care about.

Pizzagaters are not stupid enough to believe that since we don't focus on Milwaukee's voting fraud problems that it somehow makes WIC a liar and that Racine is clean. I think the problem is that you know so little about pizzagate that you think we are stupid enough not to notice that you make no sense.


Again, you have a responsibility to the other people in this community, to acknowledge obvious facts. You don't get to say that my whole theory crumbled, without ever once acknowledging what my theory actually says.

You don't even have a theory. You just write a bunch of distraction about Milwaukee voting fraud and a shill named HLI that pizzagaters ran off by themselves.

Your problem is that you don't understand what you are talking about and have hooked a lot of unconnected subjects together in a clumsy manner and it shows.

srayzie ago

Maybe HLI is a shill. I haven't dealt with him. You know that in the beginning I was paying attention. But using Tory Smith and how you reacted about it made you lose credibility in my eyes. I still don't have an opinion about WIC. But seeing you supposedly investigating something like this for a year and using evidence that is false doesn't lead me to believe that anything you said is believable. We need facts. It's strange that you put your time and effort doing this instead of investigating pizzagate.

@ESOTERICshade didn't focus on WIC much until you started this. He's not a liar because he has different opinions than you. He posts here daily and has never come off that way to me.

SoberSecondThought ago

It's strange that you put your time and effort doing this instead of investigating pizzagate.

Read. What. I. Just. Wrote.

srayzie ago

Which. One. ?

SoberSecondThought ago

LOL, good night.