Have you seen this video? Just adding it here to the "building a case" thread...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqY2QP-DNaQ

EDIT 3 above...

This is a very interesting youtube video I watched this morning. H A Goodman is on Crosstalk: H A Goodman is keeping this going and puts up a good fight for Seth Rich and also discussion about Kim Dotcom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT9wFXUAjMk

follow the rabbit hole https://archive.fo/1Mip7

Because it's obviously goofy as all hell. There's no chance the Vanity Fair writer is referring to Seth Rich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b6YTtNFtIc

EXCLUSIVE FBI Memo Reveals Seth Rich Had DNC Documents On Laptop

http://borderlandalternativemedia.com/2017/05/fbi-memo-reveals-seth-rich-dnc-documents-laptop/

THIS might be helpful ....

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/6bjqrf/please_help_organize_the_seth_rich_documents/

Does the cousin have the right to file a suit for wrongful death or only first degree relative or spouse?

How about mathematics and probability? According to statistician, Richard Charnin, "It’s not just about Seth Rich. Applied Mathematics indicates a virtual 100% probability of a coverup of the Seth Rich murder (and at least 6 others)." https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/quick-mortality-probability-calculator/

according to the correction on this article, Seth was taken to Washington MedStar

If he didn't go to go to Howard, he had to have gone to MedStar

http://blog.dcwitness.org/dnc-employee-fatally-shoot-in-bloomingdale/

we need to know if Dr. Sava was on that night. If he was Seth's surgeon. With what is at stake, records of attending surgeon could be changed. Medics, hospital personnel, hospital records, records sent to insurance. People who went to emergency that night, we need help to confirm he was on and did the surgery

Hey lads, I'm trying to build my own info-graphic, which will hopefully illustrate the senselessness of passing this off as tinfoil hat conspiracy. I'm using 'Keynote' on a Mac right now, but was wondering, the IG's I see in relation to Pizzagate, you can zoom into certain parts. As in, there is a Big picture of Seth Rich, with maybe a few small text bubbles, and then say, small links to Podesta, and then a big pic of Podesta, with his small links. I want to be able to zoom in on any part. This prolly hasn't explained it well, but if anyone knows what I mean, or can help advise on best programs to use, thanks. And good post btw OP

Building a case AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/930/865/5bf.jpg

even if you have a great case with solid evidence, you need a suspect to charge with murder. I guess it would be the doctor or someone in the hospital or ambulance who is responsible for "letting seth die" (there is no known cause of death to date). To find the shooter, we need the type of weapon and access to the street and body cams.

We decided to make this post a temporary sticky because this is what Pizzagate is about: building a case. Contribute!

What a bunch of gobbledygook. Direct keywords! Are you kidding?

Let me be more specific: How would a metaphor used by writer in Vanity Fair IN JANUARY 2016 be relevant about the murder of a non high-profile person that occurred in JULY 2016? When the person/ persons would not be familiar and when no keywords be known. What about this caused your reasoning to fail?

My take so far: It is fairly obvious that it is more reasonable that this was a targeted hit rather than botched robbery. Therefore, you look at who would want him dead. IF he is the leaker, that creates motive. You have an eyewitness saying Seth was leaker. As a detective, I would now be looking at the people who were affected most by the leak, because they would have the most motive. Do not need PC to start asking questions. However, if the subject of your investigation is intertwined with your department, you would need a neighboring agency or the FBI to take over so as there is no appearance of impropriety.

I don't know... For me its about filling gaps. Like what hospital and who pronounced him dead. Once we get the gap info, then we can narrow down.

I would FOIA the hospital he was taken to (normally included in reports, but not weird if it isn't), and the physician that pronounced him dead.

I would somehow attempt to get the names of the doctors working that night from the hospital.

Hospitals can be weird because of HIPAA, but that information isn't subject to it.

This is not the jurisdiction of the D.C. Police & never was. First of all you need to be aware D.C. Is not like any other city in America. They are ultimately under control of the President of the United States.

Even though they handle local crime and have a Chief it is only a figurehead. Why do you think these horriffic crimes of child trafficking never get investigated.

Next when you have a shooting with the circumstances of Seth Rich it would automatically be FBI. He had access to internal DNC information regarding the potential next President of US. FBI would be called.

Next as reported the hospital was swarmed with law enforcement and he was cordoned off as VIP...that is FBI.

Next there were FBI weapons stolen around the same time near where he was shot. FBI would be called in.

I could go on but finally the FBI became aware of the "hack" actually "leak" in December 2015 by monitoring trafficking going to Wikileaks. This means they knew it was internal.

Seth was unmasked and killed. Probable cause is a joke at this point. The top of the FBI Comey & McCabe violated their oaths long ago by taking money from HRC during investigation.

Obama violated the constitution on millions of citizens by illegally searching and spying on them in violation of the FISA court. This was revealed yeasterday in a scathing report as the single greatest abuse of power by a President in history causing s constitutional crisis now.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz.......is in Deep Schitz.

:-D

You're talking a lot about prosecution. I just want to see an investigation by legitimate inspectors. Trillions of dollars worth of law enforcement in that town and they let the local DC handle this case as an attempted robbery where nothing was taken? It stinks and people can see that. We need to spend a lot more time hitting their robbery angle and force them to defend it. After the people admit that it wasn't a robbery, then we get on the right track and there aren't too many possible tracks. The sort of crackhead who they want to pin this on would be more interested in getting the valuables rather than staying a step ahead of the responding cops. It's easy to take his wallet after you put bullets in him.

How would a metaphor used by a writer in Vanity Fair be evidence?

Was Dr. Sava the proximate cause of Seth Rich's death or Capitol Police?

@anonOpenPress, will you kindly provide your recent Pizzagate submission to this submission? It's definitely needed. Thanks! @lawyerforjustice, I really like @Jobew1 idea regarding a wrongful death case. Can't remember the relation, but there is a relative of Seth who wants answers. It's in a prior submission, but I haven't looked for it. This case screams medical negligence based on the information so many of us have provided thus far. According to Washington DC law (and most states for that matter), it appears as though only a relative or beneficiary can bring forth a wrongful death claim. Are there any exceptions to this? If a wrongful death claim can be brought forward, everything would surely break open with pizzagate.

The 4th year surgical resident came forward once. I believe he would do so again. The info he shared is invaluable, and without a doubt, he would have a lot more to say. We just need to find out who it is. 4chan may be able to provide us with info that was not submitted on their thread.

One glaring thing that I noticed is no information about an autopsy, none, nada. According to Washington DC law, based on specific criteria as to when one must notify the ME and perform an autopsy, Seth Rich, without a doubt, should have had an autopsy performed by the ME or a designated pathologist who works for the ME Office. This, in itself, is medical negligence on the part of the hospital if the ME was not notified of Rich's death and on the part of the ME if he was notified and did not follow through. Is it possible to go that route initially, based only on the autopsy? The 4th year surgical resident could certainly obtain that info in a heartbeat.

IMO first order of business is hire a licensed PI to ascertain with certainty that Seth Rich really lived and that he really died.

This has all the hallmarks of the FAKERY we saw in countless FFs. Until you determine the above, everything you do is a potential waste of time.

http://livingresistance.com/2016/11/18/podestas-involved-mccanns-abduction-factual-analysis/

@eagleshigh @sarmegahhikkitha @bojangles

Hey @lawyer4justice - this is fantastic... but, I'm curious. If we combine our collective and draft a formidable case that includes probable cause, you mention that this can unlock the ability to grant warrants. Clearly, this isn't happening. Beyond that, if the DC police aren't acting, it becomes a whole different crime.

So, my questions are:

1. What is this crime referred to as? Failure to... act? investigate? etc?
2. Assuming we can get to this stage and show probable cause (should be easy) and then prove that the DC police never took actions/didn't comply with their protocol - who do we provide this to? Attorney General?

Thanks again!

Voater for 3 hours, I would be very wary of this.

Don't necessarily need to read from right to left. You can also read left to right in this case. What about the other end? How do we know that he died? where he died? Who oversaw him? Who had access to him? The "how do we know" is equally crucial. It's called laying a foundation.

Direct vs circumstantial evidence: Direct - I saw it rain. Circumstantial - i dont see it rain, however, i can infer that it rained from the facts. guy walks in with wet umbrella, forecast calls for rain, no other water sources near by. Legally, both are weighted equally.

Point 1: I agree with another poster - this should be MPD jurisdiction. There was no crime on any Federal property. Hell, they have 300 of those per year on the other side of the river. Unless the Federal government could present reason to take over a "botched robbery", this is all MPD. I've confirmed this with contacts in MPD.

Point 2: Everyone keeps chanting this mantra of "Seth Rich" being the string to unravel the sweater - whatever it is now pizza, pedo, NWOgate...

The fact is, this really is the Achilles (pun intended) heel of the case. We need another map showing the relations between Rich, his family, Bauman, Brock, Alefantis, and by default Podesta. Hell Podesta is tied in through the hospital.

This is another fresh opportunity to capitalize on. And this one is much harder to refute - "Young Midwestern DNC Staffer Seth Rich Killed by Family Connections". - There is enough evidence, in the form of named sources and printed sources to close the loop now with a little more digging.

Unfortunately, I do not have the resources. If someone can put together a "meme", I prefer infographic, that may make the connection for a lot of people.

Point 3: The mock/moot court exercise is very important. If people stay on topic and use the basics of Roberts Rules of Order, this "exercise" can serve as the basis of opening up a real case. Just as finding evidence of a crime on Facebook or any other social media, if we are able to prove by "legal" and solid evidence (-iary?) practices, what gets laid out here can be used as the basis to open an inquiry, grand jury, etc. [I may bot be spot on in my legal terminology but I hope everyone gets the concept] ** If done right, what we do in this moot court can serve as evidence to be used in the opening of an official investigation. ** [If I am wrong, please correct me and tell me why]

Point 4: There may be some merit in figuring out how to loop all of this shit and land it back in JA's lap. He's so fucking happy to be out of the news these days he had the balls to write the POS op-ed a couple weeks back. Let's figure out a way to leverage this so the light shines back on his reptile ass again.

Point 5: Want a force multiplier? Take 10-20 dedicated people in the DMV willing to distribute a WHO KILLED SETH RICH (w/ the map on the back) 4"x6" card all over the area. Locals know where they need to be dropped. Put out 10,000 cards over the next month around Capitol Hill, K St, Kalorama, JA's hood....someone will crack. Guarantee in this environment, it will make someone kirk out and do something that helps break the case open further.

Point 6: They killed Roger Ailes, spooked Hannity, and countless others. They are pulling out all the stops on this one. They need to be fought with what they can't defend against - guerilla marketing/PR warfare. This cannot all be done online. They will beat us at every turn. Get those flyers, cards, postcards, handbills, whatever....raise awareness. People will believe something in print more than online more anyhow these days...

https://archive.fo/5S9f8

These tweets/threads are helpful if you follow them: https://twitter.com/ObamaTruth1/status/867833392347402241

• From the beginning, all evidence pointed to Seth Rich as a leaker, yet the story immediately was shifted to a "hack" by Russia. The intelligence agencies eventually latched onto this claim...but the FBI was NEVER even allowed to look at the DNC server. The DNC server was looked at by Crowdstrike, paid for by the DNC and with heavy connections to Hillary. They had strong motives to cover for the leak by Rich (motive for murder) and to point to Russia (a meme to attack Trump). All circumstantial behavior around this is very suspect.
• No one has pursued what Podesta meant when he wrote https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082: "I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker." No one has ever asked what he meant by this...but Seth Rich was murdered after this. The leaks spanned from January 2015 through late May 2016, so the timing of the leaks is in synch with Podesta's email threat (http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/seth-rich-evidence-wikileaks-police-report-document-dnc-staffer-homicide-conspiracy-theory/)))))))). It reminds me of what happened to Breitbart after his famous tweet about Podesta): http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/28/andrew-breitbart-tweet-before-death-adds-fuel-to-o/
• The behavior of the parents is not consistent with what anyone would expect...fighting ANY leads that would point to his murder for leaking the DNC emails. We receive this indirectly from a PR guy who was hired/paid for by the DNC, so it is not clear if the Rich family believes in this lie that all such leads are politically-motivated.
• Why would the FBI NOT have insisted to see the server and analyze it directly? The claim, which has been inflated to the highest levels, that the Russians "hacked" the servers to rig our election are so serious, they would have needed to investigate the server for national security reasons but chose to let a firm with strong political ties to the DNC/Hillary do this work. The work itself has been found to be shoddy...and most recently, exposed for potential fraud: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6d9xcm/breaking_ive_found_evidence_that_the_dnc/
• The DC police claimed it was a botched robbery, yet nothing was stolen (wallet, expensive watch/jewely, smartphone, keys). There is no support for this theory. There is huge circumstantial evidence that Rich was the DNC leaker, which provides motive. There are many inconsistencies in the stories that emerged from the shooting...that ShotSpotter was used to detect it initially...then this was denied...and more recently, the idea that a silencer was used (which would make the ShotSpotter source not possible since it relies on the sound of the gunshots). All three bodycams lost/did not have footage, which is a statistical impossibility given normal failure rates of these devices. The police also seem to have lost his laptop.
• The reports from doctors/medical staff who worked on Seth Rich are not consistent with him dying that morning. This has been documented in several posts on Voat, in which medical personnel who personally worked on Seth indicated that he was in stable condition.
• The DC Police have hidden virtually any findings/evidence of the crime and are treating it like it is under a gag order, but no one has been arrested or even identified as a suspect. You would expect them to welcome help from the public in finding the murderers.
• The media, as well as the DNC, have gone apoplectic oveer the idea that his murder was tied to the DNC leaks. They claim that this has been debunked, but there has been zero evidence debunking this. Why such a fight against this theory and line of inquiry? They even came out today with a theory that KimDotCom, who is a very credible go-between in leaking to Wikileaks, may have PLANTED fake evidence that Seth Rich was the leaker. They are making this claim before he even reveals the evidence that he has. I have never seen such behavior.
• What about the suspicious death of Shawn Lucas, investigating DNC voter fraud, soon after he served the DNC with papers about a lawsuit (http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/seth-rich-evidence-wikileaks-police-report-document-dnc-staffer-homicide-conspiracy-theory/))))))))? The LSM just ignores all of these connections.
• We should do a FOIA request on all evidence/reports related to the crime (from the police, hospital, laptop evidence, gunshot evidence, the bruising on the hands - there should be DNA evidence from this if he punched the murderers, how it is known that there were two assailants, footage from other cameras in the area,...can the guns be traced, etc.).

The Seth Rich murder could expose so much, especially since it ties to the massive Russia hacking lie and would expose this and related lies/collusion involving the Dems and LSM. Thanks for the work on this!

Dark Math, why are you talking about the FBI? For the time being this case is a plain vanilla homicide from a jurisdictional point of view. The Metro police are to handle the investigation and make arrests, not the FBI. That said, I agree with everything the OP has discussed.

More importantly there are some big wigs taking an interest in this case. It is vitally important that if we want to help out, we need to present our findings in an organized fashion wherein the evidence has merit as evidence and not speculation. AnonOpenPress is probably the best Pizzagater up to the task. Perhaps a new post can be created styled Summary of Seth Rich Murder Evidence.

Edit: The FBI would have jurisdiction over the possible hacking of the emails by the Russians. Proof that Seth was the leaker would pretty much take care of that problem. On the other hand if there was analysis of the Committees computers by the FBI as part of the Russian probe, then Seth's involvement may be uncovered. So there is dual jurisdiction depending on the crime being investigated, a cyber crime versus homicide.

the real way to blow things open, legally, is a civil wrongful death case - but you need a familial relation for standing. all you need is an attorney who's brave enough to file, then you have some legal tools (like discovery) at your disposal, and also three's a lawsuit of public record that cannot be (totally) killed by the MSM (until a judge blows it out on motion -- but then you can appeal). besides, wrongful death, perhaps there's some other creative civil remedy to invoke on behalf of citizenry generally (or at least a non family member)? OP, if you are barred in D.C. maybe you could be that guy

OP, please add a relevant link of some kind. All posts require at least one link. For example, you can include a web page explaining the legal standard for probable cause. Thanks.

Flairing your post as important.

"In order for police to obtain warrants and make arrests, you need to show Probable Cause."

That's true but as long as Andrew SlowWalker is running the FBI it doesn't matter how much evidence is found nothing will happen. This is the whole reason he and James Comey were put there. They were put there for this very issue we're seeing where people got the goods on the Deep State but it has to get past the FBI first before a case is made.

So the question isn't evidence at this point. The evidence is overwhelming already and that's with Andrew SlowWalker trying not to find any. Everything hinges on a new FBI director which I have a sneaky suspicion will be entering stage right directly.

Now if there's no new FBI director then who knows........start praying.

:-D

We've got a proper lawyer. We've got the circumstantial evidence to force some sort of enquiry. All on board?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kim-dotcom-open-letter-seth-133731616.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/5zoch9/theory_on_seth_rich_dnc_dncleaks_guccifer_20_cia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6d9xcm/breaking_ive_found_evidence_that_the_dnc/