Building a case... (pizzagate)

submitted ago by lawyer4justice

Lurker from original pizzagate on Reddit...

Coming from a lawyer... I want to help focus this sub on building a case. If not interested, then i guess the post will just die out. I will ask questions and play devils advocate to help form a case (just like real prosecutors).

To make this on-topic, it seems as if the seth rich killing could blow pizzagate wide open, if proven true. That being said, here are my thoughts... As of right now, everything is based in the court of public opinion. For that, the standard of proof (by how much someone would need to prove something ie beyond 50/50 vs beyond a shadow of a doubt) seems extremely high because at first glance, the DNC involvement in a murder seems unlikely and unreasonable to most people because they don't WANT to believe it.

Moving it over to the criminal prosecution world, the standard is much lower to begin. In order for police to obtain warrants and make arrests, you need to show Probable Cause. Probable cause is a "fair probability." It doesn't even have to be better than 50/50. Probable Cause can be based on hearsay but must be reliable evidence. An anonymous source CAN be used, but only if reliable. For example, an anon source says Steve did it, with no other information, then that is not reliable. However if anon source says Steve did it and included facts that are verifiable and not of public knowledge yet, then that would be reliable.

so let's start... Is it a fair probability that Podesta was involved? If so, what makes it a fair probability? Is it a fair probability that Dr. Sava was involved? If so, what makes it a fair probability?

If you can establish probable cause and then show the DC police are not acting, that's a whole different potential crime and more evidence of the ultimate truth. If there is a cover up by DC police, you might want to find out if it was normal for each officer that reported to the scene to be there and if there are any complaints against any of them and if that was their beat. Also, what is their protocol (from their actual training, not what you suspect it to be) and did they follow it?

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DarkMath ago

"In order for police to obtain warrants and make arrests, you need to show Probable Cause."

That's true but as long as Andrew SlowWalker is running the FBI it doesn't matter how much evidence is found nothing will happen. This is the whole reason he and James Comey were put there. They were put there for this very issue we're seeing where people got the goods on the Deep State but it has to get past the FBI first before a case is made.

So the question isn't evidence at this point. The evidence is overwhelming already and that's with Andrew SlowWalker trying not to find any. Everything hinges on a new FBI director which I have a sneaky suspicion will be entering stage right directly.

Now if there's no new FBI director then who knows........start praying.

:-D

lawyer4justice ago

First things first... This happened in DC which is under "protection" of Metropolitan Police. MPD detectives will review evidence and decide whether to file a case with the US Attorney General Office (the prosecuting agency for felonies in DC). This is not an FBI case. This is an MPD case.

DarkMath ago

"This is not an FBI case. This is an MPD case."

The MPD was bought and paid for long ago.

The MPD are also technically "investigating" the Awan brothers and the theft of Congressional IT equipment. Sadly I suspect what will happen is Luke SkyWalker Andrew SlowWalker and a few high level employees at the MPD will be thrown over the wall.