ifuckdolphinseverday ago

https://invidio.us/watch?v=zlgTgIOmRT4

You are a fucking retard. The Holocaust is a complete fabrication. There was NO genocide of the jews, instead the jews murdered over 50 million prior to ww2 ever starting.

The narrative has you normie. You and the other qtards are utterly clueless. When are you faggots to wake up? White genocide. Satanic jews.

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can look for themselves

Blacksmith21 ago

Ok, Calypso Louie

Crensch ago

The sheer numbers of documented accounts confirm it as true history.

Debunked already, but do you have any evidence to the contrary?

While many details are open to debate, it is clear that a genocide occurred at the hands of the Nazi regime.

You're just claiming this happened, without presenting any evidence? Right after I went through and demolished the Nuremberg trials in the link above? After I linked you to my old submission showing that Auschwitz was not a death camp?

This is the level of your integrity?

Scores of original film reels of Holocaust survivors and dead which are authentic available online.

Authenticated by whom? Survivors like this one? Or maybe like this one?

American soldiers and Marines with countless stories of liberation. I’ve heard the stories from my own family and friends.

Anecdotes? That's how you dismiss well-sourced claims?

Whether is was 3 million or 12 million is irrelevant to the discussion. The Nazis put Jews and other groups into conditions which either killed them from exposure to gas chambers or gunshot – the difference is irrelevant.

So if it's proven that nobody was gassed, that's OK because bullets exist? Why bring them to the camp at all if it doesn't matter, and bullets suffice?

Was your aforementioned family the kind that argued like this, too? Is that why you have such problems being honest?

Liberating US Soldiers’ accounts: https://youtu.be/kOIHRQlQqwU?t=230YouTube

4:18. Beaten? Tortured? really? They look hungry. Everyone was hungry. The supply lines were disrupted by the Allies. This is the best picture they could come up with? He mentions "deep-set eyes" DUH, that's what happens when you're malnourished.

4:23. HAHAHAHAHAHA "THeir heads had been clean-shaved" -NO SHIT THERE WAS AN EPIDEMIC OF TYPHUS.

4:25. "holding onto one another just to keep from falling". What part of starving does he not understand?

4:37. How does he know it was of children that didn't survive? Are mounds of CLOTHING indicative of death? Did you know they had to delouse clothing? Were those mounds possibly clothes that needed delousing but couldn't be processed until supplies arrived? No chance in hell that's the case? Right.

4:46. He never saw a child? No remains? Just completely to ash, hipbones and all? Let's make sure there's nothing at all to suggest a body was there, but let's leave the piles of clothes out that all those "disappeared" children totally wore. Why?

Absurd. Some 30-40 years later, an "eyewitness" is your source? You're a clown, BS21.

Crensch ago

Accounts calling into question the “Holohoax” (Zyklon-B is a desert topping, no, it’s a floor polish) are pure Nazi propaganda tactics.

Who is claiming those two things about Zyklon-B? Source?

Zyklon-B WAS used for delousing, and nobody disputes that.

While many details are open to debate, it is clear that a genocide occurred at the hands of the Nazi regime. The first-person accounts are overwhelming.

If you'd read through my comment, you'd see the following:

A JEWISH historian by the name of Hannah Arendt wrote that the "eyewitnesses", who testified in 1961 in Jerusalem against Adolf Eichmann were only rarely able to distinguish between what actually happened to them years earlier, and what they had read, heard, or imagined in the meantime.

Source: H. Arendt, Eichmann in Jerusalem, pp. 224.

Lucy Dawidowicz confirms this, stating that "the survivor's memory is often distorted by hate, sentimentality, and the passage of time. His perspective on external events is often skewed by the limits of his personal experience."

Source: L. Dawidowicz, A Holocaust Reader pp. 11.

ANOTHER Jewish Holocaust historian, Gitta Sereny complained of those who "invented Holocaust events."

Source: G. Sereny, New Statesman pp. 17.

... among myriad other complete refutations of that claim, including the fact that German soldiers were tortured for their testimony:

Austrian officer, Emil Lachout, part of the postwar Allied War Crimes Commission testified under oath in 1988 that German officials had been tortured until they furnished fraudulent statements about alleged killings of Jews in German death camp gas chambers. He provided a copy of a 1948 document confirming this.

--Source: Robert Lenski, Holocaust on Trial, pp. 274, 278.

I've seen Rudolf Höss' confession rather often as a cornerstone document of Holocaust extermination. It's certainly one of the most widely known pieces of "evidence" by anyone that has dipped their toes into this subject.

--Source: Rupert Butler, Legions of Death, pp. 235-239

Rudolph Hoess was tortured for his testimony. After a beating, "It took three days to get a coherent statement out of him, but once he started talking, there was no holding him."

--Source: Rupert Butler, Legions of Death, pp. 236-237

You were pinged to these sourced claims. What you're claiming now is dishonest, as you have no only refused to address a single point, but are now pre-empting my response here by creating a strawman with the Zyklon-B, and linking it to the words "Nazi Propaganda Tactics."

You're dishonest. A real man would feel shame over such a thing.

robinofthehood ago

I challenge anyone to watch the Europa - The Last Battle series and still believe what the OP is telling us here.

VOALTRON ago

Fantastic research! It is information overload, in a good way. Perhaps persons who enjoy these kinds of information overloads might like to expand on this by researching the ties to the Islamic world too!

A little snippet to whet the appetite: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/muslim-waffen-ss-13th-division-1943/

What's this? A Muslim Nazi SS division? How coincidental that they are numbered as the 13th Waffen SS. The big cult just loves its symbolism!

redtoe_skipper ago

I am going to be a contrarian here, probably getting me in trouble with the Q is right crowd.

• Q940 / 10 Mar 2018 / “Antifa and Nazis Flag Photos”- https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/BC185452-3F1B-493B-98D9-92%E2%80%A6.pngPNG – Q posts the flags of ANTIFA (America) and ANTIFASCHISTISCHE AKTION (1933 Germany), the paramilitary wing of the Communist Party of Germany. [What happened to the German Commies?]

• Q1269 / 25 Apr 2018 / “Are You Awake? Who Are the True Racists/Fascists?” –

“WHO ARE THE TRUE FASCISTS?

WHO ARE THE TRUE RACISTS?

WHY DOES THE ANTIFA FLAG MIMIC THAT OF THE NAZIS?

COINCIDENCE?

Now read that again and compare the flags. Does it not strike you as odd that in one line the antifa flag is compared to those of the antifa in 1933, meaning those commies having a hard time for being in a crazed anti Hitler Tantrum.... while in another line this question is posed:

" WHY DOES THE ANTIFA FLAG MIMIC THAT OF THE NAZIS?"

Huh? I probably slept over the course of the last 40 years and my smoking habits will have destroyed a brain cell or two, except the one toxic men are renowned for and stands to attention.

Apropos, when that happens, I really feel national socialist .... I am absolutely sexually loyal to the mrs and share with her the products of our labor to the betterment of our family happiness... It sounds like a mission statement. But I digress.

OK all joking aside ... again: how did the commie antifa f(l)ags all of a sudden become that of the nazis? Because both are basically ignorant? Misinformation?

Vindicator ago

how did the commie antifa f(l)ags all of a sudden become that of the nazis? Because both are basically ignorant? Misinformation?

I believe Q was saying that the same hand was pulling the strings behind the Nazis and the German Communists.

redtoe_skipper ago

See my reply to laura below. It seems we are on to the same thing. Also note the others questions and issues.

auralsects ago

It's total bullshit, OP is a shill and Q is fake and gay.

Jews in the 30s used to physically break up America First meetings here as often as Nazi gatherings in Germany - antifa's MO. Obviously the biggest funders are Jews (oh wait Soros is a Nazi LOL)

German Communists were a serious threat and of course not Germans but internationalist parasitic Jews https://i.redd.it/gx089yru9cbz.jpg

Vindicator ago

What do you make of Q directly confirming that Hitler was a puppet of the Jewish Rothschilds?

Does that not support the contention of many skeptics here on Voat that the murder and mayhem was basically history's biggest false flag?

And if that is true, don't we need to review all these accounts and anything published by the press (which is clearly compromised) and academia (also compromised)?

Go back and read Drop #142 again.

I have a bad feeling that the "truth that would put 99% of Americans in the hospital" is that we were snookered into believing a lot of hogwash about WWII...and many other things since. Q says "the choice to know will be yours" and has repeatedly communicated that his ability to make many things public depends on whether anons discover it and begin sharing it first.

Why did Q send people to Voat, one of the few places on earth where the facts of this can be discussed and debated?

How many times has he said "Coincidence?" (Answer is 159!). This is not a guy who leaves important things to chance.

We MUST keep researching and discussing this. We cannot afford to dismiss things we find disturbing as "pure Nazi propaganda tactics" until we can demonstrate they are propaganda.

Vindicator ago

@Blacksmith21? Any thoughts on the above?

Blacksmith21 ago

I guess my kneejerk reaction is - Did Q confirm it by reposting an anon's question?

As far as the truth, It's absolutely possible that Hitler was a tool of the Deep State aka Rothschilds just as Obama is. Many other rulers as well.

I completely agree that this topic should be discussed ad infinitum. Q#142 calls into question most modern world history. Finding out our forefathers fought and died for false reasons is a very hard pill to swallow.

The1stLantern ago

Was waiting for someone to say it, didnt think it would be you Vin.

Dismissing based on "sheer weight of accounts" is a fallacy at best.

Vindicator ago

Was waiting for someone to say it, didnt think it would be you Vin.

??? I don't follow your meaning

The1stLantern ago

Hitler Rothschild connection. That means Rothschild on both sides of the war which means the entire thing was a LARP to take over the world - even before discussing the propoganda since then

Vindicator ago

Yes. I think we need a post that gathers all the research on this topic.

Crensch ago

He's referring to BS21's submission above, where BS dismisses my comment with more claims of eyewitness accounts. Suggesting he either didn't read my comment, doesn't care, or has some reason to try and sweep it under the rug.

RightSideUp17and6 ago

ThanQ for such extensive analysis and plausible product. It makes sense. Hand in glove. We gotta win this Second Revolutionary War or WE will end up in Gitmo. This is for the future generations, being here for such a time as this. Obviously we are over the target cuz the shills have been shilling lately. Starting to look like QRV, all the sniping. No matter. Not gonna stop our roll. Fight fight fight.

Crensch ago

His part 2 was completely debunked a few days ago, which is why he's pushing this narrative now.

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3140875/17916032

The Nuermberg trials were a farce. The eyewitnesses were unreliable. The Germans were tortured for their testimony.

The sources for this are in that link, and are damn near unassailable. The comment was written specifically for BS21, and this post suggests that he refuses to engage my claims honestly.

@Vindicator @srayzie

Vindicator ago

I don't think he's "pushing a narrative." I think he, like everyone else grappling with various aspects of this information, is resisting it.

What was it like for you? How did you first start doubting what you were being told? How did you handle the cognitive dissonance? We all start somewhere. If we're really going to get to the bottom of the psyop(s), we need to be able to work through that process.

I am frustrated that I don't live close enough to any of the really good libraries. I would like to personally vet the original sources for the Red Cross reports and a lot of this other material that contradicts the propaganda, and take video of myself reviewing it. It is very frustrating that those who have orchestrated this multigenerational deception have perverted the press to such a degree that almost nothing can be taken at face value, on either side of the debate, going back at least to the 1940s...probably before, because I think this shit started around the time of WWI, not WWII.

Crensch, how would you react if you found out that the people behind eugenics in the 30s are the same people behind population control now, the same people who have created the infertility, autism and suicide epidemics among white males, and aborted 23.4 million white babies since 1970?

Crensch ago

Crensch, how would you react if you found out that the people behind eugenics in the 30s are the same people behind population control now, the same people who have created the infertility, autism and suicide epidemics among white males, and aborted 23.4 million white babies since 1970?

If I were shown it's not all Jews in the way I showed Douchenozzle and cuntflaps that the Nuremberg trials were a sham, I'd change my rhetoric in an instant. That's one outcome I'm HOPING happens, the other being Trump outwits all the ones surrounding him, then has them summarily executed.

Vindicator ago

Would you be willing to help research the stuff Q has mentioned in the drops that discuss this topic, to help get to the bottom of what really happened at the beginning of the 20th century, and who orchestrated it?

You've clearly read quite deeply on the era, and probably know which other old goats have dug into this, as well. I can't shake the thought that we have more than we know here on Voat, which is why Q sent people here. Unfortunately, due to mutual scorn, there isn't enough cross-pollination happening between the Q people and the old goats to effectively gather and assemble all the pieces.

If we could pool our knowledge and gather all of the facts, there is a chance we could actually increase how much of the truth Trump's people expose when he audits the Fed in his second term. Remember, Q has confirmed the ultimate goal is to permanently break Cabal power by ending the debt slavery of fiat currency. He has repeatedly stated that they are legally limited in what they can reveal due to national security because a lot of this information is classified. He has urged anons to put the pieces together, that it's all out in the public domain. There have been numerous times when Trump has retweeted or discussed things discovered and reported by the folks (@srayzie can probably cite several examples). If we put this together, there's a chance we could change the narrative, especially if we get the timing right.

Crensch ago

Would you be willing to help research the stuff Q has mentioned in the drops that discuss this topic, to help get to the bottom of what really happened at the beginning of the 20th century, and who orchestrated it?

I'm not sure what sources I could find on that. As it stands, I have Q's post as a source, and disinfo is necessary.

You've clearly read quite deeply on the era, and probably know which other old goats have dug into this, as well.

I have, but I don't. @KosherHiveKicker, tallest-shill, and a few others I can't think of have come up with information I've not seen, or at least in a format I'd not seen it to that point.

I can't shake the thought that we have more than we know here on Voat, which is why Q sent people here.

I've no reason to shake the feeling; I find it absurd to think Q didn't want us to bust some heads, since that's pretty much the beginning, middle, and end of what we do.

Unfortunately, due to mutual scorn, there isn't enough cross-pollination happening between the Q people and the old goats to effectively gather and assemble all the pieces.

I'd say @srayzie's post is pulling the Qtards closer to the abyss. Y'all are inching closer and closer by the day. The goat side will only switch when the reveals happen; too goddamn stubborn to budge even an inch.

Fortunately, I'd wager goats have less distance to travel overall. Like a golf ball sitting at the edge of the cup, refusing to budge for the ball at the tee, until the latter falls in the cup. Mockery will happen from both sides, I'd wager.

If we could pool our knowledge and gather all of the facts, there is a chance we could actually increase how much of the truth Trump's people expose when he audits the Fed in his second term.

My only idea at this point would be to have some Qtard researchers put together everything they can find on 8ch about those posts. I wouldn't even know where to look for information like that, and I don't know a goat that would.

My particular form of autism tends to manifest when someone acts like BS21 about something I know. If I don't know anything about it, like these Q drops, the impetus is difficult to conjure.

Remember, Q has confirmedPNG the ultimate goal is to permanently break Cabal power by ending the debt slavery of fiat currency. He has repeatedly stated that they are legally limited in what they can reveal due to national security because a lot of this information is classified. He has urged anons to put the pieces together, that it's all out in the public domain.

I do know this. I don't understand how the fed and gold have anything to do with this particular subject...

Let me rephrase:

Given a reasonable scope, I don't see a connection between the two.

There have been numerous times when Trump has retweeted or discussed things discovered and reported by the folks (@srayzie can probably cite several examples).

I'm of the mind that she could recite every recorded word he's ever spoken in his entire life, word for word, in chronological order.

If we put this together, there's a chance we could change the narrative, especially if we get the timing right.

The missing link is the information supporting the Q post. How would that be searched for? All the other shit going on is peanuts compared to protecting those families from being brought into the light.

I'm all for this, but I have no idea where to start with implementation.

Crensch ago

Crensch, how would you react if you found out that the people behind eugenics in the 30s are the same people behind population control now, the same people who have created the infertility, autism and suicide epidemics among white males, and aborted 23.4 million white babies since 1970?

I would change my view to fit the evidence. Immediately. Then I would say my mea culpas to everyone, and move on being exactly the same amount of right as before given the evidence I've been presented up to that point.

I don't even understand this resistance. It's one thing to do so in a conversation where someone blindsides you with words. It's another to have my comment showed to you, sources easily found, not checking them, not even apparently reading them, and pretending they don't exist.

I don't think he's "pushing a narrative." I think he, like everyone else grappling with various aspects of this information, is resisting it.

Utterly foreign.

What was it like for you? How did you first start doubting what you were being told? How did you handle the cognitive dissonance?

While doubting what I was told growing up, I had zero access to information that could confirm the source of my dissonance. I handled that poorly, and clawed my way through books and websites and life until I found things that matched the reality I saw, and not what I was told I was seeing.

That situation and this one are so insanely different that it hardly bears mentioning, though.

These people, Blacksmith and whatever that cunt's name is, are fighting for the narrative pushed by the same powers that push the MSM, CNN, lies in schoolbooks, leftist, pro-Jew, open-borders, white genocide, and everything else that permeates our lives. I may indeed be shown to be wrong later on, but I'm nowhere near THAT wrong.

Literally everything Q is saying, neither of them are doing on this subject.

I bet neither of them could tell me what argument convinced them that this fantastical event happened. It's pathetic. It's beneath humans. It's one thing to not have been exposed to the information, it's another to, at this juncture, have a narrative so entwined with who you are, that you'd act like these two in order to defend your mind from finding out it's not true.

The Holocaust is an origin myth. It's where whites, for 60 years, have sourced their shame for their own people. I get it. At this juncture, I just don't care, and I have the itch to pick apart this OP and everything he says simply because I took my time to provide him with everything he needs to wake the fuck up, and he not only dismissed it, but made a post specifically predicated on my being wrong.

This is after HIM telling ME to "read some of D'Souza's works". Nigger can't even read something on Voat, but wants me to go pick up some streetshitter's book and read it? Telling me I'm "glowing" and that I'm a shitposter and a vegan fag because he's too stupid to have any real arguments, but somehow thinks he's qualified to make a submission like this after having utterly dismissed solid, well sourced information with specific claims he could debunk if his retard mind were capable?

Crensch, you should give Blacksmith those examples, rather than merely attacking him for doubting.

First, I noticed I hadn't upvoted that comment. Apologies. It was a good one, and someone really didn't like it.

On to the quote: what now?

He's very obviously not coming at this honestly, or with any intention of taking in any amount of information that goes against the axioms of his internal framework of reality. I knew he wouldn't, which is why I responded to him the way I did. He immediately went to the implied "you are ignorant" saying "Read some of D'Souza's works". It's hand-waving to someone else. HE didn't have anything at all to say on the subject, HE didn't have any arguments. HE doesn't have any knowledge with which to formulate any arguments.

I'd wager quite a lot that you responded rather differently. Apologies for not remembering, myself.

@srayzie @shizy @think- @kevdude

Vindicator ago

I'd wager quite a lot that you responded rather differently. Apologies for not remembering, myself.

I was a pretty sensitive kid (bookworm, A+ student), and was emotionally clobbered by the images of the piles of starved bodies and emaciated people in bunkbeds. In school, I read and believed Corrie Ten Boom and Anne Frank. At the same time, I remember wondering how in the hell all of this mass killing was going on for a decade under the noses of modern Christian folks in Germany, Poland, and the Netherlands and no one knew about it, documented it or got word out to the rest of the world. I also couldn't understand how Communist Russia was part of the Allied Powers.

The fact no one reported the mass killings still makes no sense to me, especially in light of the fact that that information would have helped war hawks get the U.S. involved in the war much earlier and thus motivated the citizens of the countries invaded by Germany to share it, yet that did not happen. How could all of the German people be so blind to this? This oddity deepened shortly after college, when I took guitar lessons from an 80-year-old musician lady who had toured Berlin throughout the 1930s performing in cabarets as a teen with her brothers and father. I asked her what that was like, and she confided that all the ladies thought Hitler was hot and what an exciting and fun time it was.

It wasn't until I came to Voat that I learned the bunkbed picture I'd seen had been faked (no naked, starving guy standing there in the original). By that time, I'd experienced for myself that the media was completely controlled, brutal fascist censorship had been levied against both Trump supporters and pizzagate investigators and the only place free speech was guaranteed was full of highly intelligent people debunking official narratives left and right. Clearly, things were not the way Hollywood, schools, churches and mainstream journalists (even Fox) said they were.

One of the funniest things was learning about "pilpul" after being accused of it and realizing a) all of the people shilling v/pizzagate argued in that deceitful way and b) the guy accusing me of it also used it. That's when I began to appreciate the tactics you tend to deploy against it, and why. Somewhere in there, Q came along and confirmed a lot of what I'd originally thought was just shill propaganda to make Trump followers look like rightwing extremists. So, I started really taking people here seriously, re-examining things I'd shrugged off before, etc.

BUT, I wouldn't necessarily expect others to make that mental shift in the same way. Modding v/pizzagate has given me both an up close view of devious and malignant shill tactics like pilpul (which is how the entire Left and its institutions think, not just the Jews who invented it) and a 40,000 foot overview of the various patterns forming. I happen to be cursed with a quasi-eidetic memory, so once I learn something, I'm stuck with it.

I would not expect casual participants in Q or pizzagate research to have made that leap, yet, especially if they have invested large parts of their lives in institutions that have been bent by globalist fuckery, like the churches and the military. For those folks, "awakening" means going through the stages of grief, so denial, anger, blaming etc. are to be expected.

Crensch ago

I'd wager quite a lot that you responded rather differently. Apologies for not remembering, myself.

I was referring to whenever it was you first encountered me. You responded differently than BS21, was my wager.

The fact no one reported the mass killings still makes no sense to me, especially in light of the fact that that information would have helped war hawks get the U.S. involved in the war much earlier and thus motivated the citizens of the countries invaded by Germany to share it, yet that did not happen.

Excellent point.

How could all of the German people be so blind to this? This oddity deepened shortly after college, when I took guitar lessons from an 80-year-old musician lady who had toured Berlin throughout the 1930s performing in cabarets as a teen with her brothers and father. I asked her what that was like, and she confided that all the ladies thought Hitler was hot and what an exciting and fun time it was.

@srayzie

One of the funniest things was learning about "pilpul" after being accused of it and realizing a) all of the people shilling v/pizzagate argued in that deceitful way and b) the guy accusing me of it also used it.

https://voat.co/v/whatever/2451837/12226707/99 ?

That's when I began to appreciate the tactics you tend to deploy against it, and why.

Nice to be appreciated.

Somewhere in there, Q came along and confirmed a lot of what I'd originally thought was just shill propaganda to make Trump followers look like rightwing extremists. So, I started really taking people here seriously, re-examining things I'd shrugged off before, etc.

They are definitely good at waking people up. Well, not BS21 and cuntflaps.

BUT, I wouldn't necessarily expect others to make that mental shift in the same way.

No, but there's a certain minimum standard of honesty and integrity that is missing here, IMO.

Modding v/pizzagate has given me both an up close view of devious and malignant shill tactics like pilpul (which is how the entire Left and its institutions think, not just the Jews who invented it) and a 40,000 foot overview of the various patterns forming.

I'm not sure I differentiate between the two; zoom-based manifestations of the same playbook.

I happen to be cursed with a quasi-eidetic memory, so once I learn something, I'm stuck with it.

My memory sucks with a lot of things, but things I consider knowledge are absolutely eidetic-ish in nature for me. I'm not sure there's a word for how my mind gives me the answers, it's simply input-output-win. As if it was stored originally with all the possible applications for it built in to my subconscious flowchart.

Some day I'd really like to sit down and write about how my mind works so I can reference it. I usually just never really consider the 'how', I just mention certain truths about it when prompted to do so.

srayzie ago

It wasn't until I came to Voat that I learned the bunkbed picture I'd seen had been faked

I didn’t know it was faked. Wow

Vindicator ago

Yep. Here's the sauce.

VOALTRON ago

These people, Blacksmith and whatever that cunt's name is, are fighting for the narrative pushed by the same powers that push the MSM, CNN, lies in schoolbooks, leftist, pro-Jew, open-borders, white genocide, and everything else that permeates our lives. I may indeed be shown to be wrong later on, but I'm nowhere near THAT wrong.

You are not entirely wrong.
The problem with your rhetoric however, is that you are only 1/2 right.

You see things that don't add up, see a pattern to it all, and stop there, thinking you have found the answers.

You complain about those whom you believe to be "in control" of the narrative, and latch onto another narrative- one of division, without recognizing that the other narrative is being pushed by the real powers who control far more than you can see. It's two sides of the same coin.

Both narratives are used to keep the peasants squabbling amongst ourselves. In that way, the true evil can always hide, because both sides stop short of fully exploring the visible, and obvious inconsistencies, and hypocricy found within their respective dogma's.

Vindicator ago

Voaltron, this is an interesting theory which may be true. I know Crensch, and I know he will change his position if you can demonstrate it's incomplete with facts. Theorizing alone, however, does not advance our discussion. Q has repeatedly urged us to research -- i.e. establish the facts.

VOALTRON ago

With people like that, it really isn't about showing them facts that contradict their position. Those facts are everywhere. I could do that all day long, and their position will not budge.

Why? Because their dogma is so extremely divisive, they can always find an easy way out of being wrong, and people tend to travel the paths of least resistance. It goes something like this:
•"Those are Jew made facts, and because I know some Jews lied to me before, (((ALL of them))) lie!

It's a childish, emotional, illogical overreaction to the injury of being lied to in the past.

Or to put it in simpler terms- You can take a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

Vindicator ago

With people like that, it really isn't about showing them facts that contradict their position. Those facts are everywhere. I could do that all day long, and their position will not budge.

That is not my experience with @Crensch. He has spent countless hours helping route shills and disinfo-pushers from v/pizzagate and v/GreatAwakening. He has helped both me and @srayzie bridge the cultural divide between Voat's old goats and the more sensitive, self-censoring normie users of our subverses, allowing our boards to survive and thrive on Voat without pissing off the natives and triggering the Voat immune system. He has defended us personally against attackers and respected us when we asked him to ease up on those we didn't think were shills. Behind the scenes he's done more for Q and pizzagate research that most submitters. He didn't have to do any of that.

And frankly, if this is what you believe, what is the point in replying to "people like that" at all? Wouldn't it be better to ignore and downvote, rather than attempt to stir up more negative dialogue?

Also, if Q didn't want "people like that" to be part of the Great Awakening, why would he send people to Voat, which is chock full of them?

Q said,

Crumbs dropped will soon paint the full picture.

The picture will open the eyes of the world.

We can't do it without you.

God bless you all.

Q

He also said,

Perhaps someday people will understand ‘they’ had a plan to conduct ‘another’ mass extinction event. WWI & II - orchestrated and planned by select families? Fantasy land.

Remember, the more people there are, the more power the people have. Why do D’s push for gun control ‘directly’ after every tragic incident? Why is this so very important to their agenda?

We, the people, are who they are afraid of. We, the people, are who they fear will one day awake.

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses,

as we forgive those who trespass against us,

and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Q

Do you really think Q wants you to "not bother with" people who are angry, abrasive and difficult? The ones who are most awake about leftist tyrants and their weaponized minority minions, and probably own the most guns?

Did Q say "WWG1WGA -- except Holocaust skeptics?" 'Cause I missed that, and it seems to fly directly in the face of what he has said about WWII: "Fantasyland. Fantasyland."

VOALTRON ago

If he's such a good researcher, then why doesn't he acknowledge the strong connections of the Nazi occult Vrill Society to some of the reported horrors of the Nazi concentration camps? Particularly the human experiments, and connections to the medical sciences related to the MK-Ultra program.

Or would that be too uncomfortable?

Vindicator ago

Was that brought up to him?

Wasn't MK Ultra a U.S. thing?

This is another example of where links to actual research/facts would be very helpful.

Blacksmith21 ago

MK = Mind Kontrolle

Vindicator ago

If you've got a link supporting that, I would love to collect the information at v/WW2Discernment

Vindicator ago

Do we have any actual documents (primary sources) that aren't from sources pushing the idea of reptilian shapeshifters?

Blacksmith21 ago

There isn't a whole lot of information out there about the early days of the program. What would "MK" stand for if it didn't stand for "Mind Kontrolle"? We know the Nazis went very far with "MK" studies - all the way back to Freud and others. Why wouldn't the OSS/CIA adopt the nomenclature, especially considering the repercussions of OP Paperclip.

"The hypothetical etymology of “MK” may possibly stand for “Mind Kontrolle”. The obvious postwar translation of the German word, “Kontrolle” into English is “control.” A host of German doctors, procured from the Nazi talent pool, were an invaluable asset toward the development of MKULTRA. The correlation between the concentration camp experiments and the numerous sub- projects of MKULTRA are clearly evident. The various avenues used to control human behavior under MKULTRA included radiation, electroshock, psychology, psychiatry, sociology, anthropology, graphology, harassment substances and paramilitary devices and materials (LSD being the most widely dispensed “material”)."

https://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/Neuro-hacking%20Your%20Brain-biocomputer%20with%20Subliminal%20Technology/text/Mind%20Control%20-%20Age%20Of%20Truth.pdf

Crensch ago

I'm going to go ahead and call the user above out for having 3 upvotes for his complete horseshit grand entrance above.

Also, check his top 2 lowest rated comments.

No sources, just like here.

In fact, every comment he's made about hitler, jews, nazis, or the holocaust have had zero sources. Just claims, claims, claims. No evidence for his facts

Also, not a single submission about them.

Vindicator ago

Yeah, at this point, anyone making claims and then telling people to research it without trying to support their claims gets a question mark next to their username IMO. There's no excuse for it at this point.

Crensch ago

Hate to point this out, but let's apply that equally.

Vindicator ago

Indeed. My preference is ALWAYS source if you're going to make claims.

Crensch ago

Yeah, at this point, anyone making claims and then telling people to research it without trying to support their claims gets a question mark next to their username IMO. There's no excuse for it at this point.

I suppose I mean, let's apply this to BS21.

VOALTRON ago

Vrill society is VERY relevant to the topic of the this thread- the 4th Reich.

Yes MK-ULTRA is a US thing that has it's roots in the horrors of human "medical" experiments done in Nazi concentration camps during the holocaust.

Operation paper clip.

srayzie ago

I love how you’re rediscovering these Q posts. It gives me a whole new perspective now.

Vindicator ago

I have this weird ability to remember phrases I've read before. They pop into my head when they seem to connect to things.

Q has said "reread the drops".

Here's a cool exercise you can do any time that will help you do the same thing:

  • Pick any key phrase or word from Q, like "99%" "Fantasy land" "WWII" "Gold" "The choice to know" etc.
  • Go to QAnon.pub, hit Ctl-F and search for the word or phrase
  • Scroll through all the times it's been mentioned in chronological order (reverse sort all the drops before you start) and get an idea of the progression and different contexts Q has used it in.
  • Dig down into each one to make sure you fully understand what each refers to
  • Make a submission here describing what you learned, to force yourself to digest and synthesize the information

Imagine how awesome the submissions would be if every q researcher did a thread like that on whatever key word or phrase from Q they found most interesting. We'd all chime in and give our different ideas. Who knows what we would discover!

srayzie ago

That is not my experience with @Crensch. He has spent countless hours helping route shills and disinfo-pushers from v/pizzagate and v/GreatAwakening. He has helped both me and @srayzie bridge the cultural divide between Voat's old goats and the more sensitive, self-censoring normie users of our subverses, allowing our boards to survive and thrive on Voat without pissing off the natives and triggering the Voat immune system. He has defended us personally against attackers and respected us when we asked him to ease up on those we didn't think were shills. Behind the scenes he's done more for Q and pizzagate research that most submitters. He didn't have to do any of that.

I couldn’t have explained that better myself @Vindicator. I think we’re all different and fit together perfectly. I love you guys!

Crensch ago

Love you, too, Qqueen.

srayzie ago

Thank you Vindicator. I’ll read thru this in a little while when I can get a little time alone. Thank you for the sauce on that picture too!

Crensch ago

The problem with your rhetoric however, is that you are only 1/2 right.

I'm going to require the same level of support for this claim that I do for every other claim.

You see things that don't add up, see a pattern to it all, and stop there, thinking you have found the answers.

I find the evidence, and make my conclusions based on that evidence. For the evidence presented to me up to now, I am as right as I can be. Anything else is really irrelevant, isn't it? I can't know what I don't know, and I can't know where to find what I don't know. Until new evidence is brought to like, I am as right as I can be.

You complain about those whom you believe to be "in control" of the narrative, and latch onto another narrative- one of division, without recognizing that the other narrative is being pushed by the real powers who control far more than you can see. It's two sides of the same coin.

Your words ring rather hollow without evidence. Do you just believe things without evidence? Why would you expect me to do so?

Both narratives are used to keep the peasants squabbling amongst ourselves. In that way, the true evil can always hide, because both sides stop short of fully exploring the visible, and obvious inconsistencies, and hypocricy found within their respective dogma's.

Did you know that claims without support really aren't that convincing? Compare what you just wrote to this.

VOALTRON ago

I find the evidence, and make my conclusions based on that evidence. For the evidence presented to me up to now, I am as right as I can be. Anything else is really irrelevant, isn't it? I can't know what I don't know, and I can't know where to find what I don't know. Until new evidence is brought to light, I am as right as I can be.

What you say here is precisely what I meant when I said:

"You see things that don't add up, see a pattern to it all, and stop there, thinking you have found the answers."

You attitude impedes your will to seek deeper truths.

You are presented with evidence to show that (((they))) lied to you! Then you take the normal position of becoming sceptical of (((their))) version of the truth.

After being presented with further evidence of lies, and even explanations for (((their))) lies you reject everything that supports (((those))) outrageous liars.

That is an emotional overreaction. And that leads to errors.

The biggest error that manifests from the emotional overreaction to being lied to, is to do what you perceive to be the opposite- believe everything that >>>they<<< [the controlled opposition group] claim to be true. After all, why should you doubt >>>those<<< who showed you the light, and taught you that you had been lied to? Certainly >>>they<<< must be the real truth.

And without even realising it- you've been played. You are used as a weapon of division within the ranks of the peasants. Your tendencies to reject everything that (((they))) say is reenforced, and supported the lies of >>>them<<<. You become a pawn in the game, and give up your objectivity, and willingness to see shades of grey between the black, and the white.

And that is why you are only 1/2 right.

xenoPsychologist ago

that right there is what we in the business call an opinion.

Crensch ago

"You see things that don't add up, see a pattern to it all, and stop there, thinking you have found the answers."

I stop where the evidence stops. Until I find more, there is absolutely no reason to continue.

You attitude impedes your will to seek deeper truths.

Now you sound deluded. Still no evidence of your words having any merit to them.

You are presented with evidence to show that (((they))) lied to you! Then you take the normal position of becoming sceptical of (((their))) version of the truth.

And?

After being presented with further evidence of lies, and even explanations for (((their))) lies you reject everything that supports (((those))) outrageous liars.

Overly simplistic.

That is an emotional overreaction. And that leads to errors.

Horseshit. It's a perfectly valid response to subhumans that cannot be trusted.

The biggest error that manifests from the emotional overreaction to being lied to, is to do what you perceive to be the opposite- believe everything that >>>they<<< [the controlled opposition group] claim to be true. After all, why should you doubt >>>those<<< who showed you the light, and taught you that you had been lied to? Certainly >>>they<<< must be the real truth.

You've yet to show that my information is from an opposition group. You've yet to show it's likely. You've yet to show that my information deviates from reality in any way.

You haven't shown anything, you're just LARPing some Mr. Miyagi BS.

And without even realising it- you've been played. You are used as a weapon of division within the ranks of the peasants. Your tendencies to reject everything that (((they))) say is reenforced, and supported the lies of >>>them<<<. You become a pawn in the game, and give up your objectivity, and willingness to see shades of grey between the black, and the white.

More unsupported claims.

And that is why you are only 1/2 right.

You've done nothing but jaw-jack this entire time. You haven't shown yourself to be right about anything at all.

srayzie ago

Well what I was talking about is what Q said!

Blacksmith21 ago

It's all about the truth. Propaganda is just a tool in the Information Operations kit. Information Warfare is part of IO.

trenace ago

Outstanding posts. Thank you. And keeping it Q-based is just what was needed for what's supposed to be a Q board.

Of course distractors and shills are going to be all over this. Some sincere but duped, others just purely shilling.

Very interesting point I had never thought of is that OF COURSE the successors to the Nazis, and there are, would be pushing Holocaust denial. And of course some "facts" will be wrong or dubious but yet are not really significant (how many starved to death vs shot vs gassed, I mean really, huge number dead by the Nazis regardless.)

Hang onto your hat, the shills they are coming, but THANK YOU for top level posting.

Lauraingalls ago

Boy, there will be attacks, but I am so GRATEFUL for this info. I hope it shuts the Holocaust Deniers up once and for all.

Blacksmith21 ago

DISINFORMATION is necessary.

Shizy ago

Who knows what the exact details are. We will never know.

Exactly!!! That's why independent thinkers question everything. And questioning an official narrative or certain historical events doesn't make one a "denier", it's only reasonable to ask questions since just about everything we have ever been told is a lie.

Lauraingalls ago

SO this is a "JOKE" to you? Why did you bother?

Blacksmith21 ago

Take a deep breath.

Lauraingalls ago

I'm beginning to wonder if there are ANY NORMAL PEOPLK HERE. You post all this stuff and then you say "DISINFORMATION IS NECESSARY. What does that even mean to you?

Vindicator ago

Laura, I'm beginning to think you are a fraud here to stir up drama. @Blacksmith21 was quoting QAnon. If you were a Q follower, you would know that.

Lauraingalls ago

I know what Q said, but since Q wasn't alive "disinformation is necessary" doesn't apply to every single thing in the world. Q wasn't born yet. I can read history as well as anyone else.

Vindicator ago

Q directly confirmed Hitler was a puppet of the Jewish Rothschilds.

In a discussion of this EXACT period in history, Q also stated:

"The truth would put 99% of people in the hospital. It must be controlled." Clearly, "disinformation is necessary" absolutely DOES apply.

I find it very, very interesting that you are trying to make @Blacksmith21 look like a bad guy here in his thread.

I can read history as well as anyone else.

If you were a Q follower, you would know how stupid that comment is.

Q has told us history as it is currently written is full of lies, especially about the Nazi's and WWI/WWII:

Buy a history book published 20 years ago.

Buy a history book published 10 years ago.

Buy a history book published this year.

Compare. Focus on WWI/WWII

Something ALARMING will be discovered.

Q

I think you are definitely not a Q follower.

Lauraingalls ago

I don't care what you think.

Vindicator ago

You should.

bopper ago

sigh..

Lauraingalls ago

Funny.

srayzie ago

Holy crap. I don’t remember that one. Q specifically says Focus on WW1/WW2. You should make a post here Vindicator!

Vindicator ago

Yeah...haven't had the time. I've been meaning to, though.

This ties into the Federal Reserve and fiat currencies. That is the Big Game Q and Trump are really hunting. Pizzagate and FISAgate are just the ammunition for their elephant gun.

Those are the people who have been trying to take down Voat all this time, also: the international banksters.

srayzie ago

See parent @Crensch @Think-

Crensch ago

This submission is a declaration by BS21 that he refuses to engage my comment honestly, and will instead dismiss my claims out of hand.

I'm just this side of ruining what's left of his pathetic life.

srayzie ago

I don’t understand enough of all that other stuff. I’m excited over the Q posts Vindicator found

Crensch ago

They're good. Sorry, I get tunnel vision often when someone pisses me off.

srayzie ago

It’s ok

Crensch ago

What do you think Q was referring to there?

srayzie ago

Well it could be about the Holocaust

Blacksmith21 ago

Q72 / 4 NOV 2017

Disinformation is real.

Distractions are necessary.

SA is the primary, US is secondary, (Asia/EU)...

Alice & Wonderland.

Q

Lauraingalls ago

Try to make sense. I was hoping you weren't going to be another denier. I guess I was wrong. You do know there are people that KNOW TRUTH and "DISINFORMATION" isn't part of their vocabulary. I don't need your eveidcnce there is plenty of TRUTH out there you have no influence on.

Blacksmith21 ago

Understand that we are in the middle of an Information War. Not in the Alex Jones sense, but in the scientifically, calculate warfare sense: https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR661/index2.html

Lauraingalls ago

I know that and I also know the TRUTH. Too mnay GOOD PEOPLE gave testimonies and lived through it. That can not be changed no matter how hard the history revisionists try.

Blacksmith21 ago

I agree. Too many first-person accounts.

Lauraingalls ago

THANK YOU. You have to understand I was put through HELL because of this subject and was hoping for some help for a change.

RightSideUp17and6 ago

I'm gonna jump in and say: "And what you went through (which I don't take lightly) has forged STRENGTH in you for today. For this fight. Godspeed!"

Lauraingalls ago

There is too much independent info out there, so "DISINFORMATION" can't shut up all the people that know, and all the books written, and testimonies out there. So are you saying this is a LIE to you?

Blacksmith21 ago

The Holocaust happened. The details are murky due to history and intentional obfuscation. The point of the post is the "Left" we fight today are Nazis who are the same as the Commies.

Lauraingalls ago

So Nazi aren't hero's to YOU?

Blacksmith21 ago

Where the hell did you get that idea?

Lauraingalls ago

Just checking. It's hard to tell with double talkers. You posted stuff and then in the very next breath say "disinformation is necessary."

Blacksmith21 ago

Don't lecture me. Take the cotton from your ears and put it in your mouth. Read Q. Read the history. Don't be a reactionist sheep.

xenoPsychologist ago

ha, they eat their own.

Lauraingalls ago

I read plenty of things. I know the TRUTH.

Blacksmith21 ago

Then why didn't you know one of the underlying principles of QAnon - Disinformation is necessary?

Lauraingalls ago

Disinformation has nothing to do with what Q said. Q didn't live through the Holocaust.

bopper ago

lol

Lauraingalls ago

Why is that funny to you? Is it hard for you to believe a Christian wants TRUTH not double talking garbage.

xenoPsychologist ago

you dont care about the truth.

Lauraingalls ago

YOU are the one that doesn't care. WHAT NERVE!

xenoPsychologist ago

funny you should have that opinion. the irony that statement alone has maxed out your hipster cred. no need to take your typewriter to starbucks so people can see you writing now!

Lauraingalls ago

JERK!

xenoPsychologist ago

yeah. and thats fine. some of the best people are jerks. good isnt always nice.

i might poke fun, but i dont actually hold any animosity for you guys. i really just feel sorry for you all. youve been lied to and you are clinging to it so desperately. the only thing that can help anyone is evidence. and all we can do is present it to you.

exploring the rest of the site might do you some good. see why these things are well understood as true, because what do you have to fear from the truth? and if you can defend your position with something other than nothing at all, all the better!

Lauraingalls ago

You TRULY live in some kind of DELUSION that I haven't studied this. You truly don't KNOW EVERYTHING. I just don't believe YOUR version of reality. I know TOO much. Nice try though.

Crensch ago

The image above shows pretty much what you look like to everyone else. You can see the deliberate ignorance in others, but fail to see it in yourself.

xenoPsychologist ago

those sure are some all caps opinions. so how do you rationalize the fact that most of the claims made in the (((standard narrative))) are physically impossible?

how do you reconcile the fact that every time scientists look for the remains of those "people" to put them to rest, they find nothing? not even disturbed soil.

how do you reconcile the fact the only 3.5 million jews lived in all of europe at the time? and their own census records show no loss of six million in that period?

the fact that red cross immediately after the war determined only 271,000 died, mostly from typhus?

i could go on and on with true things that counter the lies you repeat, directly from the synagogue of satans mouths. but if you dont care about the truth, and laughably think you know too much, then nothing of value will have been lost when you get raped to death by 65 iq spearchuckers.

bopper ago

No, not at all Laura. I want truth as well.

I'm laughing because this is the way Voat is, lots of misunderstandings. Like a train wreck.

I've had my share of misunderstandings here.

Lauraingalls ago

Then the minute I thanked him after all I experienced here, he shouldn't have immediately said "Disinformation is necessary."

bopper ago

Q has said that. Blacksmith is just saying what Q said and applying it to the info he gave you meaning that it will be hard to know everything, something like that.

Lauraingalls ago

There are OLD books and plenty of testimony. Too much evidence. The phrase "disinformation is necessary" doesn't mean we can't find out the truth. Do you think we don't know anything about the past at all? That there is NO WAY to find out?

bopper ago

Let me tell you something Laura, honestly. I am one of the most level headed persons you will ever meet if I do say so myself. @srayzie knows me.

But the past four long years I got pretty laid low for different reasons, and I had time to research. Let me tell you, I was stunned by what I came across, and I'm not easily swayed, about anything. But when you encounter the truth you accept it, you at least CONSIDER the possibility that there are lies in this world. Big ones.

And yes they're going to make you feel uncomfortable, they're going to make you squirm, but what are you gonna do? Live with deceit? Stay stoopid all your life? Not me, no way.

Take a breather and just consider that maybe, possibly, not everything you've been told is true, etc. I'll stop.

Remember, the mark of an educated (I like to say wise), is "to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Lauraingalls ago

"EVIDENCE OF THE HOLOCAUST

The Holocaust was the swansong of the 3rd Reich. The sheer numbers of documented accounts confirm it as true history. The political motives, however, remaing more unclear and seem to indicate that the Deep State was controlling/Manifesting in Hitler (similar to Obama).

Accounts calling into question the “Holohoax” (Zyklon-B is a desert topping, no, it’s a floor polish) are pure Nazi propaganda tactics. While many details are open to debate, it is clear that a genocide occurred at the hands of the Nazi regime. The first-person accounts are overwhelming."

THANK YOU FOR THIS. SO President Trump KNOWS it was REAl because it was.

xenoPsychologist ago

you realize nazism is a direct response to actual evil and degeneracy right? when the bad guys won the war, they took the real virtue of germany and turned it into a villainous cartoon caricature for your brainwashing. they arent hated for no reason.

redtoe_skipper ago

Yes, Laura, you c/p this and doing it again does neither answer questions or offer avenues for further discourse.

Take a simple look at the thing Q posted about the antifa flags.

To me it does not make sense. So, I am going from the position that the questions Q posted, as I related above, are pointers for serious inquiry.

If so, I have to suppose a common demoninator.

What is the common denominator between commies and national socialists? Or should I pose this question: What are the common denominators between the origins of communism and national socialism?

Or for that matter: communism and Nazi.....

What I can think off is this:

  1. Funding. In both cases it was money interests from the US that funded both. To be more precise: the commies, Jews who changed their names, used US money to fund their initial push, after which it was easy to steal it from the 20 million Christians ( orthodox) who were killed.

The same m.o is visible in Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc. The Checkas, the commie butchers, were Jews.

In Germany, it was money interest that funded his initial programm to become popular enough in the democratic scene. That was party funding. This was done in the hopes, a strong man would.come to power, to elevate the country and repay outstanding debts.

The commies in Germany were a very strong party. 90% of them: Jews, so why would the nsdap in 1934, agree to the haavra agreement? Because it was agreed upon by the German Jews and the nsdap. Not the eastern European Jews.

Factions!

But In both cases: where did that money come from?

Why was the UK not living up to it's mandate to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine and transjordan as per the versatile treaty? Why did they allow that homeland to be shrinked? Why was Jordan established and not attacked as rebels, like the Arab federation? The establishment of the Hashemite Kingdom and the allowance to exist contravenes all peace agreements. SA was OK with a Jewish homeland in transjordan and Palestine. Treaty exists that it would be OK within the framework of the sovereign Arab confederacy. Why did the UK institute a no visum policy, to prevent haavra agreement immigration into Palestine?

So, why then, in light of the Haavra agreement, did the NY times front-page in 1933 say: Judea ( which does not exist) declares war on Germany. ( yes, Hitler was not chosen with 90% of the vote) so, why Germany, why not Nsdap?

So, why did Churchill insist on British ging the war to Germany, whether they wanted it or not? Who were the money interests behind Churchill? Why is it that Germany needed to be totally flattened and become an agricultural country only? What the fuck makes Germanic people so dangerous to certain money interests, they have to be completely raped, demolished, castrated, mixed with other races, it's culture, morals and values undermined and perverted?

Are we watching the global battle between two basic modi operandi: how to survive?

Blacksmith21 ago

Pt 3:

PART IV: PARALLELS BETWEEN NAZIS AND THE DEEP STATE

Ssimilarities between the Nazis, their practices and predilections and the current Deep State/Leftist/American Democratic Party:

Deep State = Nazi Example 1: Hitler’s father as a pedophile – I think we know a few famous and/or powerful pedophiles in today’s Deep State Leftist Nazis: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild04.htm

"Alois, Hitler’s father, was born in 1837 in the period when Salomon Mayer was the only Rothschild who lived at the Vienna mansion. Even his wife did not live there because their marriage was so bad that she stayed in Frankfurt. Their son, Anselm Salomon spent most of his working life in Paris and Frankfurt away from Vienna and his father. Father Salomon Mayer, living alone at the Vienna mansion where Hitler’s grandmother worked, is the prime, most obvious candidate.

And Hermann von Goldschmidt, the son of Salomon Mayer’s senior clerk, wrote a book, published in 1917, which said of Salomon:

'…by the 1840s he had developed a somewhat reckless enthusiasm for young girls..' and

"He had a lecherous passion for very young girls, his adventures with whom had to be hushed up by the police." And Hitler’s grandmother, a young girl working under the same roof would not have been the subject of Salomon’s desire?"

And this same girl became pregnant while working there? And her grandson becomes the Chancellor of Germany, funded by the Rothschilds, and he started the Second World War which was so vital to the Rothschild-Illuminati agenda? And the Illuminati are obsessed with putting their bloodlines into power on all "sides" in a conflict?" There are no coincidences.

Deep State = Nazi Example 2:

• Klintons: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/06/the-clintons-had-slaves

• Northam and the RVA Krew: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/02/06/blackface-first-ralph-northam-now-mark-herring-why-so-prevalent/2792247002/

• Hollywood slave owner descendants: https://stars.topix.com/slideshow/16118 (AC360!)

Deep State = Nazi Example 3: The KKK, Nazis, and PP are Intertwined: T4 Project http://remember.org/witness/wit-vic-med - Nazi Eugenics - North Carolina - Margaret Sanger - Woodrow Wilson - Henry Ford - Contemporary PP movement:

• “Progressive eugenicists in America connected with their European counterparts via international conferences . Here we see how eugenics attracted the political Left not only in America but also in England and Germany.” (D’Souza, The Big Lie, p152)

• Forced Sterilization in North Carolina: http://bioethics.wfu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WickedSilenceStudentDiscussionGuide.pdf

• Margaret Sanger, founder of Planed Parenthood speaks to the KKK: https://savethestorks.com/2017/08/planned-parenthood-founder-margaret-sanger-spoke-ku-klux-klan-supported-eugenics-organization-still-honor/

Deep State = Nazi Example 4 : Merkel as Hitler’s daughter: https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2440977

Deep State = Nazi Example 5: Nazis and the Vatican: Q936 – Nazis and The Vatican - // Nazis = Pedophiles = Catholic Church/Vatican:

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/26/world/vatican-is-reported-to-have-furnished-aid-to-fleeing-nazis.html

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00845R000100170004-5.pdf

http://spitfirelist.com/news/dont-applaud-for-him-argentina-cardinal-bergoglio-pope-francis-and-the-dirty-war/

Deep State = Nazi Example 6: The DemocratiKKK Nazis in action - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/democrats-in-swastikas-storm-trump-speech-to-jewish-republicans/

Deep State = Nazi Example 7: Misinformation case study: https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2738429 [Demonstrates the origin of the “dual-citizenship w/ Israel rumor” can be directly traced to an Italian pro-Palestinian activist] – Nazis were exceptional propagandists and gave birth to MONARCH:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/03/how-nazi-propaganda-encouraged-the-masses-to-co-produce-a-false-reality.html

https://www.brainz.org/10-most-evil-propaganda-techniques-used-nazis/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/russia-us-uk-using-nazi-propaganda-tactics-in-spy-case

And one final thought on Nazis = Deep State = Leftists = Communists: https://www.thedailybeast.com/communism-and-fascism-the-reason-they-are-so-similar

“Communism and fascism—how did two opposite ideologies end up looking so similar? Vladimir Tismaneanu gives his answer in a new book: Two 20th-century ideologies promised a utopian vision that would ensure infinite happiness. They both stemmed from a political, social, and cultural construct that erased traditional ideas regarding good and evil. Both believed in the destruction of the old world, to build a new international order; each deplored what they saw as the pathetic ennui of bourgeoisie existence; each ideology’s shared purpose was to recruit members of the new utopia.”

PART V: SUMMARY

The Deep State uses transference to inflict their sinful actions upon us. The Deep State Leftist/Nazis project their crimes upon the innocent. It is part of the Deep State Nazi tactics. Every aspect of our lives. Much of what we’ve been taught has been called into question.

Simply put, the 4th Reich is another version of a Deep State tentacle. It’s a European based hybrid of European Communism + USSR tactics + Nazi ideology that has manifest itself in what we know as the Deep State and all its tentacles.

The enemy of America are the Leftists = Deep State = Democrats = Klan = Commies = Nazis = Pedophiles = ANTIFA/BLM.

“America’s left-wing progressives not only outpaced the Nazis in initiating mass programs of forced incarceration and forced sterilization , but they also showed the Nazis how to implement such programs. The Nazis acknowledged the pioneering role of the American Left in shaping their own life-preventing and killing schemes” (D’Souza, The Big Lie, p150)

Original post: https://voat.co/v/CalmBeforeTheStorm/2375150

Original post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1540823

WWG1WGA!

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Cristo316 ago

CIA, NASA are(were, maybe still are?) 4th Reich Entities following WWII and Operation Paperclip--Change my Mind....

Lauraingalls ago

So many incredibly sick people. Thanks for all that information.

xenoPsychologist ago

where one oven dodger is found, others are sure to be found as well, eh?

Lauraingalls ago

SICK to the core!

xenoPsychologist ago

what? one shekelwhore makes a post containing nothing resembling solid evidence, just emotional appeals and peoples opinions, and the rest come running to suck him off. isnt that weird?

Lauraingalls ago

You have such class.

xenoPsychologist ago

perhaps, but the truth is more important.

Blacksmith21 ago

Pt 2:

PART III: PLAN OF SUCCESSION (Continuity of government)

Summary: The 3rd Reich stole immense amounts of wealth from others throughout its reign. Hundreds of billions of dollars were stolen from victims of the Nazi state – in every form of currency (jewels, art, cash, gold and other precious metals, stocks, businesses, contracts, land deeds, corporate ownerships, etc.): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/20/secondworldwar.israel

After the war tens of thousands of the Nazi elites blended in as they escaped to other locations in Europe, the Middle East, South America and many in America. Many remained behind in Germany. Operation Paperclip brought in every Nazi technical mind into US Government that they could right after WWII (1945). The PAPERCLIP NAZIs eventually brought in their children, and siblings, and cousins into the United States and they assimilated as well, as did their grandchildren and great grandchildren. They have infiltrated our US Government.

Once established in new lands, the Nazis used their ill-gotten gains to plan, develop, fund and build the makings of the 4th Reich in its current iteration.

If you read one link: https://thementalmilitia.net/2016/03/17/the-nazi-fourth-reich-and-the-american-deep-state-architecture-quintus-dias/

EXCERPT: “…the Underground Reich,” is a clandestine post war Fourth Reich. Some of the key features of this Underground Reich… Beginning with a 1953 coup attempt in Germany by former Goebbels aide Werner Naumann, the program highlights what author T.H. Tetens described as a “Fuehringsring,” a system of Mafia-like control permitting Nazi administration of the Federal Republic of Germany. Realized by virtue of a network of small, underground cells, this control mechanism afforded a Nazi government-in-exile in Madrid and in Latin America and effective governance of the “new” Germany through the many “former” Nazi officials who held positions in its government.

The Madrid Circular – A blueprint for the rise of the 4th Reich (for comparison, we are currently in the 3rd Klan for those that are keeping score) – No copy of the original letter is publicly known – quotes/links are from research on the papers:

EXCERPT: “IN 1950, THE GERMAN GEOPOLITICAL CENTER IN MADRID, a thinly-disguised Nazi organization, circulated a lengthy and remarkable top secret document among its members, outlining the geopolitical policies and goals for a remarkable group of highly connected people, a group I have variously called The Nazi International, or The Fascist International. One might reasonably call it the Post-War Axis International, a kind of extra-territorial international Axis state comprised of elements of the militaries, intelligence apparatuses, propaganda and foreign ministries of the former Axis powers and their satellites, a crazy patchwork quilt of Japanese naval officers, former Kempai Tei, Yakuza, German veterans from all services branches, elements of Joachim von Ribbentrop’s Foreign Ministry, the Nazi Party Chancery, the SD, veterans from the Italian Fascist party and the Regia Marina, Belgian Rexists, Dutch Nazis and Croatian Ustashi…they were all included. What united them was a common ideology and purpose: the ideology was power—raw and naked power—and a determination to oppose and ultimately defeat Communism, and then the West’s major power, the United States of America. To achieve this end, they allied themselves with those within the target blocs who shared their ideology of an international corporate socialism, of an international Fascist order. “

Related reading:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1198014/pg1

http://www.englishdemocraticparty.org.uk/bulletin552.html

https://www.scribd.com/read/273078009/The-Third-Way-The-Nazi-International-European-Union-and-Corporate-Fascism [An eye-opener from what you can read on Scrib]

https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/cryptologic-histories/german_clandestine_activities.pdf

The Red House Report (aka US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128):

Regarding placement of former Nazis into the military-industrial complex (domestically and abroad):

“They must also prepare themselves to finance the Nazi Party which would be forced to go underground as Maquis (in Gebirgaverteidigungastellengehen). From now on the government would allocate large sums to industrialists so that each could establish a secure post-war foundation in foreign countries. Existing financial reserves in foreign countries must be placed at the disposal of the Party so that a strong German Empire can be created after the defeat”

https://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/articles/Intelligence_Report_EW-Pa_128.html

Present day - https://www.thedailybeast.com/nazi-sympathizers-want-to-run-europes-spy-agencies

The Grand Mufti: The Muslim Palestinians got in on the Nazi action too: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/MAGAZINE-revealed-photos-of-palestinian-mufti-visiting-nazi-germany-1.5483980

The Jihadis (the enemy of my enemy) are here too (Deep State): https://www.theblaze.com/video/clarion-project-a-member-of-a-jihadi-cult-is-running-for-congress-in-alaska

An overview of the plan for the 4th Reich: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179902/Revealed-The-secret-report-shows-Nazis-planned-Fourth-Reich--EU.html

Vindicator ago

Blacksmith, this is interesting information, especially the first link in the above comment.

But the last four links are all from sources who are enemies of Trump/Q. Why should they be trusted?

Blacksmith21 ago

A broken clock is right twice a day. I try to use a variety of sources, rather than sources solely from one side or another. All 4 of the citations are really just showing historical documents, which is really what I was interested in highlighting.

If this were a discussion of Trump's personal life, for example, I'm pretty sure I would have avoided the sources.

All sources should be considered always.