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letsdothis3 ago

Interesting post @Vindicator. I seem to remember @VieBleu was run off of this forum.. see: @VieBleu is a shitstirring troll and is not to be taken seriously.

Vindicator ago

Hmm. I wouldn't say she was run off. More like she blew herself up.

VieBleu waged a campaign to get the community to rally behind getting me made O, and minimum CCP raised to 100 (which would have kept our posts off of v/all). EsotericShade helped with that campaign. When Kev foiled it she claimed he was threatening her, then disappeared and never came back.

As I look back, I think VieBleu may have been an ES sock puppet. Both @Kevdude and @Crensch had problems with her/him from the very beginning. She started out complaining about hate speech early on, trying to get mods to delete comments. Moved to mod bashing when we didn't bend to her will, especially when we refused to advertise the protests at Comet. Every time Voat had problems with bugs during DDoS attacks, she would crank up the "Voat compromised" narrative.

Here is ES replying to VieBleu in her big thread pushing the 100 CCP requirement: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2030995/10019687. It's what he made @smurfy69 for.

ESOTERICshade ago

VieBleu waged a campaign to get the community to rally behind getting me made O, and minimum CCP raised to 100 (which would have kept our posts off of v/all). EsotericShade helped with that campaign.

I'm the one that took kevdudes advice, created a sub for testing (v/testingsunday) and then helped Kev explain to everybody that it would be bad for the sub. I KNOW you know that too. You're lying.


As I look back, I think VieBleu may have been an ES sock puppet.

You know that is bullshit too. Viebleu hated @kevdude with a passion but I always got along fine with Kev.

Vindicator ago

I'm the one that took kevdudes advice, created a sub for testing (v/testingsunday) and then helped Kev explain to everybody that it would be bad for the sub. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT TOO. We were all struggling to understand what the CPP limit would do. Once I figured it out I helped Kev convince the sub not to do it. You're lying.

Well ES, without links to the conversations you're referring to, I find that pretty hard to believe. At the time, @Kevdude told me not to put up the sticky that allowed for that debate, because VieBleu was trying to gaslight the community into censoring itself by changing the settings. I told him the only way to vent VB's shitstirring was to have the full debate, and I was right.

You have an admitted history of playing good guy/bad guy and taking opposite sides of an issue to manipulate consensus, particularly about Q. You helped VieBleu with his campaign to raise the CCP limit, and then switched sides. It's similar behavior.

ESOTERICshade ago

Well ES, without links to the conversations you're referring to, I find that pretty hard to believe. At the time, @Kevdude told me not to put up the sticky that allowed for that debate, because VieBleu was trying to gaslight the community into censoring itself by changing the settings. I told him the only way to vent VB's shitstirring was to have the full debate, and I was right.

You were right. It was a very productive, active, and sometimes confusing discussion, but it produced fruit. I still don't think a lot of people understood it fully but after some of them read v/testingsunday it helped the light bulbs come on. You did the right thing by having a discussion on it because otherwise it would have just been more confusing and frustrating.


You have an admitted history of playing good guy/bad guy and taking opposite sides of an issue to manipulate consensus, particularly about Q.

I have said this several times and I will say it again. I don't hate the Q people and I don't hate you either. Srayzie is a DAMN good friend of mine and she is Mrs. Q around here. Me and her NEVER fight, we don't argue, because we don't discuss Qanon. We just have a genuine friendship. I don't hate you either bro. I didn't want v/pizzagate to get polluted, side tracked, or diluted. This ain't complicated and neither were my motives.


You helped VieBleu with his campaign to raise the CCP limit, and then switched sides. It's similar behavior.

I learned because I did the hands on research . It turned out that @kevdude was 100% correct about the 100 CPP limit but we had to go through the actual exercise in order to understand it. You know all this. You're just painting the worst picture you can think to create.


I did research here >>> v/testingsunday because @kevdude told us that if we really wanted to understand it we should start a sub and experiment with it. So, @cantsleepawink created v/testingsunday and asked me to help. If you read that short thread we tested in its OBVIOUS that we were learning.


This craziness doesn't have to go on forever. I'm over it. I think all this turned out as well as it possibly could have under the circumstances. v/pizzagate is still just v/pizzagate and the Q crowd has their own home and they seem to like it. I don't hate you and I don't wish you any ill will.

Vindicator ago

I didn't want v/pizzagate to get polluted, side tracked, or diluted. This ain't complicated and neither were my motives.

You see, ES, this is the fundamental problem, right here. It's not up to YOU what people on v/pizzagate want to discuss. So long as they satisfy the submission rules, they can post about whatever they want. You think you have a right to determine what is and isn't acceptable. You created sock puppet accounts to play games and manipulate voting to ram your totalitarian vision down everyone's throat. You have no respect for freedom of speech or the right of users to make decisions for themselves about whether something is worth investigating, or not. And you pride yourself in it. It's disgusting.

And that is why "this craziness" will go on until you delete your account. You don't belong on Voat because you don't respect the most basic values Voat holds dear.

ESOTERICshade ago

Homeboy, until you provide "evidence" that Qanon Scamanon is a super secret intel agent, you are pissing into a fan, and it is splattering in your face.

"Have you heard the latest news? Soros is in GITMO!! He got abducted at the airport and went to GITMO"

"the Obama library got raided, they got allllll his documents. All the perps will be in GITMO by next week"

blah blah blah blah blah blah...............

Do you get paid to promote this bullshit? I'm starting wonder, because, you are fuuuulllllll

of bullshit

How many Qanon lies and predictions must you endure before reality sets in on you? At what level is your bullshit meter set?

Soros being in GITMO, (he is not in GITMO) should have done it for you. How much Qanon wine bullshit are you willing to drink?

I hate reality too, but I prefer it to Qanon bullshit. Get a grip dude. I wish Q was real too, but he ain't real.

Snap out of it.

srayzie ago

Oh and I wanted to add...

Q said this. What Q deniers make the mistake of doing, is taking people’s interpretations, and then if it turns out wrong, they say Q lied, when Q never said it in the first place. Many people thought that Soros went to Gitmo. That is not what Q said.

ESOTERICshade ago

So George Soros has a "special space." No shit. He does. He is a special Billionaire. What am I missing here? Coleman Roger (Qanon) is telling you the truth. Ain't no mystery here. Me and you can try to predict the news cycle just like Coleman Rogers does. Sometimes we will be correct and sometimes we will miss.


"midterm elections are safe".....huge FAIL by Coleman Roges. The DemonRats (democrats) stole the midterm elections. It was OBVIOUS voting fraud.


That really pissed me off. I want Trump to succeed because he tries to run this nation like a real business. Cash in cash out. I like Trump's approach to running this nation. I really do.


If we can figure out how to turn the Q Movement into an Yellow Vest thing, and support Trump's vision, we might have a shot at saving this country

srayzie ago

"midterm elections are safe".....huge FAIL by Coleman Roges. The DemonRats (democrats) stole the midterm elections. It was OBVIOUS voting fraud.

I don’t know how to make you understand that the midterm election was not a fail. Things were set in place beforehand to catch the voting fraud, which will be used to destroy the fuckers next election. Most presidents do not gain house seats at midterms. The senate was key. If you don’t follow all this, I don’t expect for you to know what I’m talking about. You’re getting your information by youtubers and people posting lies.

You must have not read thru the stuff I shared with you, because if you think we all trust this movement because Q can get some news predictions right, then you don’t understand it at all. There is not a doubt in my mind that Q works directly with Trump, and that nothing but good has come out of it, including waking up millions of more people, and making pizzagate go mainstream.

ESOTERICshade ago

I don’t know how to make you understand that the midterm election was not a fail.

We got our ass kicked. The Democrats (jew fukers) have managed to install Governors in a lot of states in this country. It was obvious that the midterm elections got hijacked.


If you don’t follow all this, I don’t expect for you to know what I’m talking about. You’re getting your information by youtubers and people posting lies.

I'm just noticing what happened. We got fucked. The elections were stolen.


because if you think we all trust this movement because Q can get some news predictions right, then you don’t understand it at all

He gets it wrong about 75% of the time. We can roll dice and maybe get better odds? Maybe?


including waking up millions of more people, and making pizzagate go mainstream.

I am starting to warm up to this point of view. Ain't no doubt that a huge crowd is assembled. NOW, what do we do with all this busy crowd? It needs direction, focus, and some REAL goals. Needs strategy, objectives, steps, or it will all be useless. What do you suggest?

srayzie ago

What do WE do? WE do nothing. You are not a Q follower, and YOU are not helping lead the movement. Q leads this movement. I do not want your help. You have ruined pizzagate. You keep coming back. You know what you’re doing. I try to stay out of it. But, now you’re bringing up Q and pinging me.

You aren’t ruining Q. At least not on v/GreatAwakening. If you want to go play games with the Q movement, go to v/TheAwakening because it’s comped anyway. You are really starting to piss me off. The Q movement needs strategy, objectives, steps, etc...? Who the hell do you think you are?

Leave Voat!

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Leave Voat!

TY for saying this, his NPD is getting to be quite tiresome. He won't leave of coarse, too much of who he is has been tied to this place for too long. It's sad really, he could have been a real asset instead of just another lying, manipulative coward (we got plenty of those).

srayzie ago

I feel bad because we were once really good friends. He changed when Q came around. I think it’s better that we don’t talk about Q with each other. He needs to leave this sub alone. This is getting old for everyone.