Hello everyone, last month I posted the basics of a family tree for James Alefantis (my original Voat thread, complete with the link to the original tree and some news articles is here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1440343 ). Since then more people have either contributed research or just reminded me to get off my butt and update the tree, so I have done that and uploaded three new reports from my genealogy software to reflect the added info.
@Poncho567 had posted info on uncles, aunts, cousins, on the Alefantis side here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1460709
@hunk_quark did some digging on childhood information and assumed names used by James Alefantis, and as a result of that I was able to confirm the identity of James' maternal grandparents. (For that post see here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500147)).
And thanks to @PieInTheEye, when I resume trying to see if I can get some back further on Louis Alefantis, James' grandfather, I'll have to do some poking to see if there's an connection between the Italian surname Alefanti and Alfanos of the Pizza Connection trial (For that, see here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1502936/7299833 ).
Ok, now that've gone over that, onto the new information I found. I was finally able to figure out the identity of Susan Reid Shoemaker Alefantis' parents and subsequent ancestors. I tried to limit the information I entered into the database or added to the reports in some cases, because as you'll see, some of her family lines go back pretty far and I doubt people will care if James Alefantis is descended from 50 of Charlemagne's kids, and it probably won't be relevant either. So I tried to focus a bit. What I found most interesting was the obituary I dug up on Susan's uncle William Grattan Shoemaker Jr., which is included in the report notes. He was a prominent lawyer in Buffalo, and was involved with the Boy Scouts among other things. In more mundane genealogical terms, the other thing that stuck out about her family tree is that she's a Mayflower descendant. But being a Mayflower descendant does not automatically translate into wealth or political power in this country, so the relevance of that only goes so far.
Anyway, I've uploaded three reports. The first one is the updated ancestor report for James with all of the ancestors I've included, second one is a descendant report for James' grandfather Louis Alefantis that reflects the added stuff on his extended family on his father's side of the family, and the third is a descendant report for his great-grandfather William Grattan Shoemaker Sr. reflecting his mother's extended family.
Ancestors of James Achilles Alefantis: http://docdro.id/qiAQJR5
Descendants of Louis George Alefantis: http://docdro.id/1rHaO0e
Descendants of William Grattan Shoemaker Sr.: http://docdro.id/SPMt80Z
LaDonnaRae ago
I was just looking at that gallery this morning online. Thank you for that tidbit of information.
PieInTheEye ago
( @CaroleLandis ) ... thanks for this info. Great work.
I was doing some research into the property Title stuff regarding CONNEB II LLC (finally realizing that CON + NEB = CONNEB ... CONnecticut Ave NW and NEBraska Ave NW ... simply an anagram convenient for the Realtors), and it seems that there are two families in particular connected to this property holding company and its activities.
I have detailed this info on this new sub ( https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504213 and as a correction/debunk in this sub https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1460517 ) , which I believe has an interesting take on the 'art' connections between CPP, Buck's, Terasol, and Transformer; people have been greatly overlooking the importance of the potential use of Art and Artisan pottery (etc) for money laundering and black market money transfer possibilities. Alefantis was involved with Transformer and David Brock by 2003, nearly 2 years before he decided to get into the restaurant business affiliated with the CONNEB properties (Buck's is still Title owned by CONNEB II LLC, and Alefantis only owns the Lease and the operating company BIG BUCKS LLC).
Politics & Prose founders/previous owners Carla Furstenberg and David Cohen, were the movers behind this entire real-estate block using the CONNEB incorporations, and I have recently seen that people have connected the Little Red Fox property, which used to be Marvelous Market bakers ( https://i.sli.mg/bDiiIU.jpg ), with Mark Furstenberg ( http://archive.is/Z9AN1 ), Carla Cohen's younger brother. Mark only became a master baker after the age of 50, and before that was a political operative for the Democratic Party, though there are links between the ADA group and the Solcialist Party of America, which basically had an internal love affair with the Democratic Party through liberal Jewish families such as the Cohen's and Furstenberg's (some real academic movers and political operatives in these families).
Now, this U.S., Furstenberg family are from Sweden -- emigrated in 1907 before the Bolshevik Rev. in Russia -- and what pricked my attention, as such, was that Vladimir Lenin's #1 banker who passed the Wall Street funds through Sweden (according to Antony Sutton's "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution") was a Jewish banker named Jacob Furstenberg (alias, Yakov Ganetsky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Ganetsky ) , part of a Jewish banking coalition between the Warburg's and Furstenberg's (there was a Carl Furstenberg in Berlin who was Warburg's fellow traveller in banking also).
Now, there were not many Furstenberg Jewish families -- of means -- operating out of Goteborg, Sweden, in the first two decades of the 20th century, and the U.S., family branch, upon emigrating to America, were quickly associated with the Socialist Party of America and later Americans for Democratic Action (they claimed to be anti-Communist, but this only really happened when Stalin broke from the course plotted by Lenin, which upset a lot of the Jewish 'socialists' because Stalin was technically an ethnic Russian who resented Jewish partisan politics ... in private company only of course, because Stalin said one thing openly, and did the opposite privately, like any good Communist).
Carole, the reason I am bringing this up to you is:
1) You are obviously very proficient at genealogical research and I'd like to get your help/take on the Cohen-Furstenberg family connections, because they are as important, if not more important, than Alefantis' family tree.
2) You may in fact have come across the names Cohen or Furstenberg in researching Alefantis, which would be a bombshell revelation if they could be connected positively, because that would make this CONNEB block a veritable spook-house project for a political and technocratic clique within Washington D.C., Liberal Establishment ... and it would add family names and faces to an otherwise Clinton heavy operation.
CaroleLandis ago
Ok, I can start a separate database for Furstenberg & Cohen and work on their trees to see where they may fit in, and if I can get them back to their "old countries." I may need people to look at the reports I upload with different eyes than mine because someone may catch a possible connection I won't that needs further investigation. It's one thing for me to notice the Snow surname in Alefantis' tree and realize I need to investigate the possible LDS connection, but this may be a little more challenging. I'll get started soon!
PieInTheEye ago
You're a gem. I will keep you in the loop on any info I also manage to locate, as I have been hammering away at the Furstenberg Sweden connection ... which I have definitely confirmed. Finding online info from Swedish sources regarding the Furstenberg (Ganetsky) banking family of Lenin infamy, has, however, been frustrating. Even connecting Carl Furstenberg banker connected with Warburg in Berlin to the Swedish Furstenberg (Ganetsky) has been frustrating. It would help if I understood Swedish or German or had access to resources in those countries, so perhaps a ((((( kindly Swede or German will read this and decide to help us out. )))))
For starters: Carla Furstenberg Cohen of Politics & Prose and her brother Mark Furstenberg's mother was:
SOURCE: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/obituaries/bs-md-ob-edith-furstenberg-20150213-story.html
SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Furstenberg (Carla's hard-core liberal academic psych. & sociologist bro.)
SOURCE: https://jwa.org/communitystories/baltimore/narrators/furstenberg-edith ... contains following quote:
- Edith Hollander Furstenberg (maiden name Hollander).
Born in Baltimore May 20th 1910; died February 2nd 2015.
Prolific 'liberal' Children's Guild Social Worker. Connected to Sinai Hospital in Baltimore.
... on March 8th 1934 married the following:
- Dr. Frank Folke Furstenberg (OBITUARY: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/08/us/frank-f-furstenberg-doctor-92.html )
Born in Sweden c.1905; died August 8th 1997 at 92 years of age.
Swedish Physician who emigrated as a doctor to work for Sinai Hospital, Baltimore. Part of an established and political Jewish family. Was a longtime advocate for National Health Care. Was a director of the Sinai Hospital Medical Care Clinic in Baltimore and served on the Executive Committee for the Nation's Health, which lobbied for the Wagner-Murray-Dinger national health care bill, introduced in 1943.
... that's a good starting point for any sleuthers to go on.
ich1baN ago
Sort of sick to think about... but I had an ancestor on the Mayflower that saw the face of the ancestor that would commit all sorts of abominations. Generations later I must help put an end to this.
CaroleLandis ago
Don't beat yourself up over it, but perhaps be glad that you were meant to help stop these bastards.