First off, @ESOTERICshade is @rarepeeks. This is not a joke. Yes, there are loads of archives and image backups that will never be deleted, should he disappear or delete.
Why is this a problem? Manufacturing consensus and vote manipulation. Other users never seem to push ESOTERIC's narrative, just his alts.
Here he is lying about his intentions in order to make his main username seem reasonable while his alts attack Vindicator.
How about voting on major changes to the subverse? His main username was ALL OVER that thread, and made THAT vote in some Crensched nest, but here's his alt's vote.
You know how the pedophiles we all want dead mock those around them by hinting at what they're really doing by admitting to something smaller?
Here he is admitting to being @smurfy69, innocently UPVOTING comments not because they were good, admitting to upvoting himself, where he has upvoted 422 times and downvoted 127 times on ONE account. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't brigading? Oh wait, Here's RAREPEEKS (ALSO ESOTERIC) numbers at 725 upvoted and 354 downvoted
@Puttitout, please see the above paragraph.
You'll also notice BOTH Esoteric and his smurfy69 account commenting in this concern troll thread by @ArtificalDuality -- both claiming to have suffered torture from directed energy weapons. Exactly the kind of LARPy concern troll bullshit known liar and drama queen @Jem777 was posting before Vindicator banned her - and she's also helping push it in this thread. You'll also find twistedmac11 joining in there.
@twistedmac11 seems more than a little invested in ESOTERICshade keeping his good name. And he always, always, always, always, JFC always, fuck... shows up to defend or agree with ESOTERIC. No, that's not everything. That's a very, VERY small fraction, yes, it's all archived and saved.
How much of what you see here has been shaped by him? Does any legitimate user really agree with him, or does he just groom new users into being his cheerleaders when he and his alts do their dirty work?
Here's @DeathtoMasonsASAP somehow finding a deeply-nested comment to respond to, and has that typical ESOTERIC-style Vindicator hate found on a verified alt here, here, and here.
Here's ES lying again about him thinking the rest of the mods are "cool" while attacking one. It's usually either that, or thinking all the mods are awful except one. Never really seems to commit one way or the other. Always has to pretend to be on the side of one of the mods, like this cringey shit where he tries to brown-nose kevdude.
I'm sure everyone now knows that the colloquially known "Donkey" is also @auralsects. What do you make of this where @auralsects responds where @ESOTERICshade should have? No, ES did NOT respond to that on the correct username at all, even after the fact. And who in their right mind would say this? Here he is talking about Donkey's JOB; who in their right minds would say THAT?
There are more usernames being researched, but what do you all see in these links?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2608242/13143338?=20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239 (notice the difference in votes, and how useless his comment really is - somebody got a new toy and wanted to play with it)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2490837 (10? 17? really?)
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2591260/13026383 (organic?)
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2569662
Feel free to ping all those users you know that are friendly to this pedophile-protecting D&C shill. I fully intend to put every single one of them under the microscope, along with anyone that attacks my mods.
This is why you have a MASSIVE asshole as an [O] mod. THIS is why I'm not nice to you. THIS is why I don't do daily mod duties here. THIS is why your mods want me where I am. THIS is the avalanche I created just by picking a fight with your loudest blowhard member that almost none of you called out. THIS IS WHAT I DO. And to all of you that even look at my goddamned mods sideways without a VERY good reason:
No more Mr. Nice Crensch.
EDIT
@twistedmac11 got flustered and lied about never supporting anyone trying to destroy the subverse, prompting @Vindicator to dig this one up.
EDIT 2
@Vindicator made the comment below about ESOTERIC's bullshit:
Here, @EsotericShade claims he's so ignorant of technology (a "retard") he had to make all these alts because passwords are too hard to remember.
But eight months ago, here he is having a conversation about how to use VPNs to game the voting system. Doesn't sound too tech ignorant here, now does he?
Incidentally, that thread shows him using multiple alts to try to take over a rule discussion, voting multiple times via different accounts and even bitching when Crensch missed votes that weren't made as top level comments that would be seen in his notifications. Lots of brigading, too. Here are three of them talking to each other, pushing the idea the mod team is run by intelligence operatives.
There are multiple comments by him in that thread as ES, rarepeeks, twistedmac11, dragonkiller and others concern trolling the idea that the rule discussion is some kind of trap created by Crensch to get people's names on a hit list -- he simultaneously votes multiple times and tries to scare other people away from letting their voice be heard. It's rather appalling how glaring it is in this thread, actually.
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think- ago
Congrats' @argosciv, you slimed yourself up @kevdude's butt, so that he made you a mod on v/ProtectVoat? Wow. Just wow!! /s
I'm definitely not on @argosciv's side, Kev. I don't mind if u/TrustTheTruth attacks him or not. I will definitely not defend him.
I know that TTT is just testing loyalities here by spitting out user names, but it cracks me up that he lumped Donkey, Are_We_Sure and argosciv together.
And you can be sure that I will be after your boy argo the minute he starts to push Satanism again (even if it's only by posting Satanic music crap) or is going to defend pedos like Michael Aquino or the OTO. Or promotes 'sex magick' or drinking blood. This is everything I have been fighting against.
Have a nice day, Kev.
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
think- ago
@srayzie @Shizy @MolochHunter: please see parent. A little convo with @kevdude re @argosciv.
srayzie ago
Are you wanting my opinion? Or to just see it?
think- ago
Whatever you feel like. But please be aware that I am in aggro mode re argosciv, and I'm not sure whether you would prefer to PM me. xo
srayzie ago
Well since you guys talked about it publicly, I will say it here...
I think Argosciv has shown a lot of improvement and he has been helping with things behind the scenes. He’s not a mod of pizzagate. He’s a mod of ProtectVoat. I could understand your concerns if it was pizzagate.
You know I’ve had my problems with @Argosciv as well. But, he has been respectful. He knows that I am a Christian and hasn’t sent me satanic music or anything in a long time. I think people deserve second chances. I have fucked up many times in life. Thank God, I got another shot or I wouldn’t be where I am.
It’s not like someone is under contract. If at anytime Argosciv did something wrong, Kevdude could de-mod him. Technically, since it’s not pizzagate, and it’s a free speech site, he can pretty much talk about Satanism all he wants if he chose to. I wouldn’t like it and wouldn’t get along with him either if he started that shit. Hopefully that won’t happen. But, I’m in support of giving him a chance.
@Vindicator @Kevdude @Crensch @Shizy
argosciv ago
On that note, once upon a time, @Vindicator did offer such a position to me - not a direct invite link, just a fleeting offer in private - I declined to accept because it would be largely inappropriate for me to be a v/pizzagate mod both at the time and even today. This was months ago, mind you, around the time everything exploded regarding Millennial_Falcon(won't ping because I'm not sure if MF is around or interested).
The main reason I thought it inappropriate was due to my having a vastly different take on various aspects involving or tangential to pizzagate and otherwise not being able to trust myself to moderate v/pizzagate impartially. I also knew that it would cause a major uproar because of the circumstances at the time and my being a target of ES/TTT/Amalek and co; it would just be another repeat of what happened to MF.
The current position I'm in, seems to work best for me.
I don't actually talk about it that much anywhere here on Voat, despite having every right to. Earlier on, it felt like it was important to explain where I was coming from in that whole department, but, it became apparent that the better approach is to focus on where my research is leading me, rather than my points of disagreement with others. Incidentally, as time has gone on, more and more of what I'm looking at has shown to be valid - but that's a story for another time...
Unpinged myself in above quote.
Thanks for the kind words, srayzie. If there's anything you would like clarification on in private, feel free to let me know.
^ Same to cc'd below.
cc: @kevdude, @Crensch, @Shizy, @think-
Vindicator ago
Just a point of clarification...Argo, I'd have to go back and look, but as I recall, I asked you who you thought would be trustworthy mod material as part of my canvassing efforts, and we both agreed you already had too big of a target on your back for that to work in v/pizzagate. :-)
argosciv ago
My comment above Vindicator's reply, has been edited as seen in the quote in this comment.
My mistake, I mis-remembered private messages from 10 months ago.
cc: @srayzie @kevdude, @Crensch, @Shizy, @think-
argosciv ago
Shit, too many pings because of the quote.
cc: @think- (not trying to be a pain, see above for correction re: the conversation Vindicator and I had months ago on the topic of me and modding(technically [J]) v/pizzagate)
argosciv ago
Hmm, you're right, my mistake, I guess my memory played up on me there.
From the inbox message I found, it looks like I've mis-remembered the exact context/wording.
I'll adjust the above comment to better reflect what was said.
Vindicator ago
:-)
argosciv ago
I'm fairly sure that conversation included a mild offer...
Hang on, I'll see if I can find it.