Long ago, back in the days of Millennial_Falcon, Amalek-style spammers would occasionally be activated to attack this place. MF would start simply banning anyone that posted the same drivel, and nobody really seemed to mind save a few times a possibly innocent user was caught in the ban wave.
Since the Jem777 shills are still going strong on their attacks of the users, mods, voat, and their sliding of the forum and misleading of the researchers, the idea of doing the same has been floated past me.
I thought perhaps flairs would work better - the normies still allow CSS and would see the flair, while the goat-tier would see right through the subversives right away.
With some of the more well-liked usernames, I'll be sure to make a post detailing the justification of their flair. With others, they're either nobodies and not worth that kind of time, or you can click on their comments page and see why they have been flaired.
Many of us have lost someone here that we thought were decent users, or even really good users while some haven't. Either way, it's silly to think that everyone you know here that posts isn't now getting paid to veer off course, or hasn't been paid this entire time to infiltrate and try to sabotage from the inside. Many of these "users" were caught here, and many vindicated. You're welcome to crawl down all those rabbit holes that the mods have had to deal with the past few weeks if you like.
Flairs may be used, going forward, for the following:
@Jem777 was a disinfo troll into weird shit and is objectively a liar. Though not all put together, @srayzie made some posts on it. 1 2
@Gothamgirl is objectively a liar and accused @srayzie of criminal acts while showing that she is pathological in her lying.
@RIPJem you only need to click on the comment history to see why this user would have flair.
@Piscina might earn a flair soon for this accusation of mod removals of relevant threads.
Some other users may earn flair soon - some you may have liked or appreciated. Each one will have a post HERE for their attacks on this place so the users can see for themselves, and argue their case for any username they happen to like.
Throwaway names and aged sock puppets will require no explanation unless the users here decide it is necessary.
SOMEthing needs to be done about what's happening here, and the mod team is small and limited in resources and time. The line must be drawn somewhere, and we are all doing what we can to stick to Voat's free-speech principles while limiting the negative effects of paid pedo-protectors on everyone here in PG.
If we get user input, the mods will go with the consensus. If not, the mods will try to work out a system that is agreeable on their own.
From @Vindicator:
It should be noted that there are many creative ways that username flares could be deployed, including some positive ones like a gold star or something for people's favorite researchers. People should think about this and share any ideas they have.
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Vindicator ago
Thanks for making this thread, Crensch.
It should be noted that there are many creative ways that username flares could be deployed, including some positive ones like a gold star or something for people's favorite researchers. People should think about this and share any ideas they have.
think- ago
As I said elsewhere, I don't think we should flair users. I don't want to give the impression that mods decide who is a 'good' user, and who is a 'bad' user.
People like Donkey are hated by almost anybody here anyway, and most people have figured out that DeathToMasonsASAP is a troll, who has been attacking the sub from the beginning.
And other users are highly respected anyway, with or without 'gold stars'.
I don't want to see the sub turning into a 'who-get's-the-prize-for-best-essay' site, and I don't want users here being afraid that they might be labelled 'shill', only for disagreeing with mods or other users.
People here are more sensitive than on other Voat subs. Many who come here, or read as lurkers, are survivors. I would like to see them feeling as comfortable as possible, and the constant fear of getting labelled would lead to them being afraid to speak their minds imo.
Also, I don't want to see the - perceived - gap between mods and users who are not modding getting deeper.
We should continue with our ban policy as usual. Bans are given only for violating the rules, not for comments (except for spam, doxxing or posting incriminating material). Imo this should stay this way.
Crensch ago
@Vindicator where are you on this now? Seems like the other users are slightly against it overall, and that's not including the known shitstirrers.
I'm more or less ambivalent, and would probably lean towards not using them if I had to choose.
Introducing the flairs is a great way to add extra variables to this shitstorm equation, and multiple vectors of attack for the shills. I LIKE the idea in an idealistic kind of way, but the reality is that it will very likely be used against us.
I introduced an alternative to @Piscina here, and anyone can call out a username like that. Maybe some of the other users will take up that particular baton and help out when they see one of them posting.
As of this comment, removing all the flairs currently in effect. Will reinstate if the discussion takes that kind of turn.
RIPJem ago
YOU AND THE OTHER MODS WERE EXPOSED FOR YOUR LIES AND MANIPULATION.
YOUR HATEFUL HIT PIECES ON MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO DIED INVESTIGATING IN REAL LIFE AND ANY WHO DEFEND THEM ARE DISGRACEFUL AND MALICIOUS.
YOUR VINDICTIVE PLAN TO ORGANIZE DOWNVOTES AND ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT, BAN AND LABEL USERS WHO HAVE EXPOSED YOUR LIES AND IGNORANCE HAS BACKFIRED.
YOU ARE SO WRONG, WEAK AND INDECISIVE YOU HAVE HASTILY IMPLEMENTED AND REVERTED THE ENTIRE PLAN IN LESS THAN TWO DAYS.
YOU KNOW NOTHING AND YOU FALSELY ACCUSE THOSE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ALL OF YOU COMBINED.
YOU ARGUE ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. YOU AND OTHERS LAUNCH FALSE ACCUSATIONS WILDLY IN ALL DIRECTIONS WHILE YOU PROTECT EACH OTHERS' POSITIONS ON THE FAKE PEDESTAL.
WHAT IS YOUR FALSE SENSE OF POWER WORTH WHEN YOU ARE SO WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING?
WHAT IS YOUR FALSE SENSE OF POWER WORTH WHEN YOUR USERS END UP DOXXED, DEAD AND MURDERED?
WHY DID YOU CALL JENNY MOORE AND OTHERS SUCH TERRIBLE AND INEXCUSABLE NAMES?
WHY ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF THE TRUTH?
httpswwwdotcom ago
I really like the flair idea and would have blindly accepted its implementation until I read this comment.
You make a good point and I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to assume that the same users claiming the mods are bad/shills/agents/etc would also claim that the mods use flairs as another form of censorship or misdirection etc. Furthermore, it does actually open up an avenue for control with malicious intent—operating under the assumption that everyone can be compromised, that is.
However, I do think it would be funny to see some big red warnings over the incredibly irritating trolls.
ben_matlock ago
i think @think- thinks like me
think- ago
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall: please see parent.