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ababcb ago

The amount of effort going into discrediting Senate Anon/HLI is remarkable, especially given how the Senate Anon threads are not very well known outside of the Voat community. Most people I see who know about pizzagate have never heard of Senate Anon, so to see this much effort put into gaslighting makes me believe Senate Anon when he said "3. Arrests have been made based on threads like this and HTG. Many good cops are now posting in these threads."

https://8ch.net/pol/res/10589216.html#q10702433

Four long threads of convoluted conjecture and not one single concrete fact to back anything up? Your efforts will not save anyone.

SoberSecondThought ago

Ah, you're back! I was just saying a few minutes ago (well, 12:52 am Voat time) to @oftotc that HLI had apparently abandoned your character and was staking everything on @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt. You haven't posted in two days! But now, by sheer coincidence, at 1:31 am Voat time, here you are!

And of course you're not explaining how you came up with the fact that the head of SOBIB runs the Sarasota airport, while Senate Anon has never so much as mentioned Sarasota. Still nothing from you on that. Are you an insider too? Did you forget to tell us that part?

My surmise an hour ago was right on the money, wasn't it? Brock the paranoid's paranoid compartmentalizes his operation ... so he never told you precisely what secret you were protecting. That explains a lot. So our relationship is evolving. I've been giving you too much credit. Now apparently you're going to have to rely on hints from me to figure out what is going on.

Like I said to @oftotc, I delight in your additional misfortune.

ababcb ago

Ah, you're back! I was just saying a few minutes ago (well, 12:52 am Voat time) to @oftotc that HLI had apparently abandoned your character and was staking everything on @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt. You haven't posted in two days! But now, by sheer coincidence, at 1:31 am Voat time, here you are!

Yes, my job is not "working for David Brock" so I don't post on Voat all day every day.

And of course you're not explaining how you came up with the fact that the head of SOBIB runs the Sarasota airport, while Senate Anon has never so much as mentioned Sarasota. Still nothing from you on that. Are you an insider too? Did you forget to tell us that part?

lol this is ridiculous. I never came up with ANY information. All I ever did was copy and paste information back and forth between Voat and 8chan. Secondly, I do not believe it is true that Senate Anon has never mentioned Sarasota. After people began investigating the SOBIB directory a random anon using TOR pointed out that the head of SOBIB ran the Sarasota airport. Here is that post:

https://8ch.net/pol/res/10589216.html#q10625422

Here are the posts in that thread that are presumed to be Senate Anon because Senate Anon was posting in that thread with TOR. https://8ch.net/pol/res/10589216.html#q10629663

This poster may not be Senate Anon, but he is using TOR. Either way, it's irrelevant because it's true that illegal things are going on in Sarasota.

There's one thing that every comment, thread and post you make has in common; it is always impossible to tell what your point is. You are trying to confuse me and everyone who reads your posts. This is not going to work.

Now apparently you're going to have to rely on hints from me to figure out what is going on.

lol I know exactly what's going on, and that is a desperate gaslighting campaign because real arrests are being made because anons are digging up dirt criminal networks in Wisconsin, DC and Sarasota.

SoberSecondThought ago

There's one thing that every comment, thread and post you make has in common; it is always impossible to tell what your point is. You are trying to confuse me and everyone who reads your posts. This is not going to work.

I'm confident that people know what my point is. I'm saying that David Brock pays a guy to operate a bunch of sockpuppets including you, @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt, @fogdryer, HLI, and Senate Anon (plus minor walk-on characters). That's not the least bit confusing. It's either true or it's not, but nobody is confused about what I said.

There are still plenty of people reading this thread who are on the fence ... they want to believe I'm the real deal and that we've finally had a big breakthrough. But they have been manipulated so much, been disappointed so often, that they're having trouble trusting anything they read. That's not quite the same as being confused. They're being properly cautious.

And yes, for several days I certainly have been trying to confuse you, or more precisely, to prod you into making revealing mistakes. I kind of thought we were done with that phase, as I remarked to @oftotc a few hours ago. But I've been forced to re-evaluate that idea, because you (meaning @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt) have stuck so doggedly and single-mindedly to the Racine story.

Now, there was bound to be a bit of a problem in my mocking your/WIC's constant refrain of Racine and Paul Ryan, because we haven't gotten to that aspect of the story yet. That was going to be Day 8 material. I was mocking you for it in anticipation of a big reveal later, and trusting that readers would be willing to wait a little while for the full story. But you/WIC have been so clueless in your responses, it made me wonder out loud if I had been assuming more knowledge on your part than you really have. And minutes after I said that, suddenly I was no longer arguing with WIC, I was arguing with @ababcb, who has been missing for two days. It's kind of revealing to those who are still on the fence.

So I'll say this now: Paul Ryan is the actual target of WIC's constant Racine-Racine-Racine babble. The goal is to discredit him, to isolate him from potential allies, to cast doubt on anything he says or does, to fill the Internet with second-hand and third-hand references to Paul Ryan being a traitor. All the things that WIC says about the Rothschilds, the Council of 13, and so on, are side plays designed to draw in his conspiracy-minded audience and make his true intention harder to spot. While Ryan is WIC's target, Ryan is not the only target, and I will explain why he was made a target on Day 8.

So I guess if Brock really does compartmentalize his disinfo function, then you'll be finding out why on Day 8 along with everyone else.

This poster may not be Senate Anon, but he is using TOR. Either way, it's irrelevant because it's true that illegal things are going on in Sarasota.

Oh, no, it isn't irrelevant. The original charge I made was that HLI borrows the work of real researchers and passes it off as "insider" stuff. No matter how you rationalize on their behalf, HLI and Senate Anon both blatantly misrepresented the info they were sharing. They conned us. But when I said that, you came at me with a blizzard of wild accusations, that I wanted people to stop real-life investigations altogether (false), or that I wanted people to stop investigating Adams Morgan (also false), that I wanted to divert attention from Sarasota (really false as I did high-quality research on it), that I was shilling for the pedos, and so on. Then I put you in the hotseat for claiming that Senate Anon "risked his life" and for claiming that Senate Anon "came back" with the Sarasota info, when neither claim was true. You then vanished for two days, and didn't come back until moments after I pointed out your absence.

And now your defense is that a random anon generated the Sarasota lead, and that you knew it was really Senate Anon in disguise because he was using TOR.

Dude, you just don't act like a guy who has been accidentally swept up in a sockpuppet hunt. You're massively over-invested in defending these phony "insiders" and casting doubt on my arguments. There are other people who raise reasonable questions about one aspect or another of what I've said, and when they do, I address them. But you're in a class by yourself.

ababcb ago

I'm confident that people know what my point is. I'm saying that David Brock pays a guy to operate a bunch of sockpuppets including you, @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt, @fogdryer, HLI, and Senate Anon (plus minor walk-on characters). That's not the least bit confusing. It's either true or it's not, but nobody is confused about what I said.

Again, you have not provided any evidence and everyone is confused by your longwinded and disorganized posts. As I pointed out, the ONLY thing people can gather from any of your posts is that HLI is "working for David Brock" which you have provided both 0 evidence and no reasoning for. You just claim that it's true and then go on a long, gaslighting tangent.

"on day 8 you'll find out!!1!"

LOL we've got another George Webb here, eh? Nobody is taking you seriously.

Oh, no, it isn't irrelevant. The original charge I made was that HLI borrows the work of real researchers and passes it off as "insider" stuff. No matter how you rationalize on their behalf, HLI and Senate Anon both blatantly misrepresented the info they were sharing. They conned us.

So what? Who cares and why does it matter if they passed the information off as their own or not? This is what I mean when I say nothing you say makes sense and that nobody can figure out what your point is. Seriously, WHAT IS YOUR POINT when you say that he "passed off information as insider stuff"? How is this negative and how does this discredit the idea that shady stuff is going on in Racine, Adams Morgan, Sarasota, etc.?

This is classic gaslighting. Your posts are designed to distract and confuse, nothing else.

Dude, you just don't act like a guy who has been accidentally swept up in a sockpuppet hunt. You're massively over-invested in defending these phony "insiders" and casting doubt on my arguments.

I am not even close to being as invested in this as you are, lol. You plan on making long winded posts for at least eight days straight and one little reply from me sets you off on a post like this? You've got your work cut out for you if that's the case. I'll be poking you with short statements in every single thread you make, forcing you to write out extremely long posts like this one. You WILL respond, exactly like this, every single time, because you're paid for it.

Again, you make wild speculation and accusation, refuse to ever back them up with concrete facts and are extremely invested in getting people to stop looking at anything and everything Senate Anon tells us to look at. What possible reason could there be for it to be such a big deal if someone is researching info they obtained from Senate Anon/HLI?

So I'll say this now: Paul Ryan is the actual target of WIC's constant Racine-Racine-Racine babble. The goal is to discredit him, to isolate him from potential allies, to cast doubt on anything he says or does, to fill the Internet with second-hand and third-hand references to Paul Ryan being a traitor.

Why is this a bad thing? I think you're a shill who works for Paul Ryan, not David Brock.

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago

Thank you @ababcb. @sobersecondrhought is wildly speculating and completely wrong.

For anyone who has not noticed it's all about him. We do not tell the Truth for our own credit. We feel an absolute obligation to the world to share the Truth that we know, because everyone's lives and souls are at stake.

Anyone who says "don't look into Racine" or other legitimate leads should be questioned with a high degree of skepticism, particularly when they are not a credible source on the topic.

Paul Ryan is a criminal and traitor and should be treated as such. David Brock is also a criminal. They are middle men to a much bigger and more powerful network.

Does anyone really trust Paul Ryan or David Brock? Even James Alefantis doesn't trust David Brock.