Check out the Day 4 recap for what this is all about. Day 5 was personal time, no post.
Now that we've cleared away the worst of HLI's sockpuppets, we can discuss my project: What is the Clinton machine most afraid of, and how can I use their disinfo to trick them into exposing things?
I had three ideas that might get a reaction. The first was the video of Glenn Beck announcing a whistleblower who could bring the government down -- followed by him being bullied into silence. I posted about this in April, tying the mystery to elite child sex trafficking. I was not the first person to do that, as this post and this video show. But I thought I might expose more of the story.
If I provoked a reaction, it wouldn't be obvious. HLI wouldn't start telling people, "Ignore those rumors about Glenn Beck." It would be subtle. But more than a month went by and I didn't see anything compelling.
So I tried different bait. I posted about it here: the Wisconsin recount. While the rest of the state showed no big discrepancies, the recount in Milwaukee was never finished. Each day there were thousands of additional votes in error between the machines and the hand count, and the machine total favored Hillary. The total gap was looking like around 50,000 votes. Then Milwaukee declared that it could not finish for various reasons, and by state rules, they certified the original machine count for Milwaukee.
As Bev Harris explained to Alex Jones, this was evidence of a last-minute panic. The Clinton camp hadn't rigged the vote, because they believed their own polls. Only on election night had they made the desperate choice to rig a jurisdiction with paper ballots. But the rural counties had already reported in, and they could only alter Milwaukee, and it wasn't enough.
Now, one obvious clue is that @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt, despite posting every day about freemasons and Rothschilds, has never said a word about the recount, Jill Stein, electronic voting machines, or Milwaukee. All of HLI's alts stayed away from that thread, except @fogdryer, a big supporter of @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt. He didn't mention this big Wisconsin news. Instead he helped derail the discussion by saying that it was "all over the web" that Mike Pence was a pedo.
HLI and Senate Anon have said that Trump was 20 or 30 points ahead. I won't list reasons why this can't be true. Just ask yourself why they'd lie. Doesn't it hurt Hillary to say how unpopular she was? Yes. But it implies that they saw defeat coming a long way off. It diverts attention away from the rigging being last-minute. I posted about Milwaukee on May 13th. Then, lo and behold -- HLI joined Voat a week later, on May 20th, and started trying to steer the research effort. I had my reaction.
Next problem: Suppose HLI is running a bunch of sockpuppets. How can you prove that he's working for Brock? My third idea was that at some point I had to talk about James Alefantis' crimes. The child porn on the Comet server; the death threats against Ryan O'Neal and his family; the rape of his teenaged employee.
I wasn't sure how HLI would respond if I did that. He would have been smart not to. It's such a well-traveled topic by now. But I hoped that Jimmy Comet might get mad at me personally. The thing about a guy who sells children and rapes teenage boys is that he has predictable vulnerabilities, like poor impulse control and a need to punish people who disrespect him. The exchange he had with Ryan shows this clearly.
However, Internet traffic on these topics peaked in January, when his rape victim gave an AMA. There weren't many threads about it any more, and I couldn't address the topic without being too obvious. June went by with nothing suitable, and July. Then in early August I got lucky. For a few weeks, there had been a rise in discussions of Jimmy's crimes around the Web:
July 1: Alefantis (or someone posing as him) posts on /pol/ that he wants people to stop accusing him of rape.
July 4: The Liberty Columnist interviews Titus Frost about the Comet server
July 11: Jamie Dlux puts up a Pegasus Museum walkaround.
and so on. Meanwhile HLI was increasingly dissatisfied with his efforts to take control of the research effort here. He had made a dozen posts about the Jesters and Adams Morgan, but none of them had gotten much traction so far. So he killed two birds with one stone, posting a big emotional attention-getting rant on July 24th. This told me they were still watching.
Then on August 4, @AmyJames posted about Alefantis' "Freudian slip," and I could get in and make my points. One point that people especially liked:
But while we're tediously sifting through LARPers and Sorcha Fail and endless clickbaity crap ... guess what? Alefantis is doing the same thing. He's reading all those false leads because there's nobody he can trust to do it for him. And he's not actually very good at it. This is way outside his skill set, even when he isn't drunk.
This was about doing things in the right order. Clearly Jimmy can't read every post about him by Pizzagaters. Even if he did read mine, he might still not respond. But if I was already under close watch by Brock's guy HLI, then Jimmy would likely be told about me dissing his Internet skills. That would upset him far more than if I was some random anon. So I had to make sure that they were watching me before trying it, yet make it seem that I was not deliberately pushing the topic.
Clearly, it was not a foolproof plan. But Jimmy did show up eventually.
First, though, they got even more impatient. By now I had ignored the year-old ROJ/SOBIB clues they were dangling for about three months. On 9/11 HLI created Senate Anon, who launched his first visit to /pol/ by declaring that Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are traitors. Toward the end of that visit, after much pleading by anons, he shared the ever-so-secret ROJ/SOBIB info. He also said, "keep digging on Racine".
The same day, HLI's sockpuppet @ababcb posted that Senate Anon was "risking his life" to bring us this info. As that stirred excitement here, I pitched in with a couple of posts. But then I went back to working on NCMEC and other things. So at that point, they decided to add the Sarasota airport connection and see if that motivated me to move back to SOBIB. Unfortunately, as I said in my Day 4 post, HLI screwed up the execution on that. In his 9/18 post, sockpuppet @ababcb didn't credit either HLI or Senate Anon, he just blurted out that John Stafford runs Sarasota airport. HLI had also neglected to make Senate Anon say anything about Sarasota. This was the sort of blunder I had been hoping to generate all along.
I went to work on Sarasota, and actually did find stuff. It seems clear that HLI then reported to Brock that I had taken the bait, and Brock told Jimmy; or maybe HLI told Jimmy directly. I know it was one or the other, because a few days later (9/28), Jimmy Comet got good and stoned and came to razz me about it, in my latest Sarasota thread.
Oh, Jimmy. HLI makes mistakes when he's tired and in a hurry. He has thousands of investigators to try and outwit, and he was bound to stumble somewhere. But you had one job, and it was to keep your whore mouth shut! Here's the text of Jimmy's posts:
sobib is a masonic order
into whatever it goes
clap clap
remove this submission mods and insult op for stepping in blood..
and
Hey guys friendly reminder that if you want to have even a sugar coated discussion of a private mens luxury community then prepare to have this submission deleted as we have made sure a-la rule number one has been arranged. No more discussion.
yay a little airplane good for you keep it to human trafficking not the richest charity in the world. My dad is a shriner and he will get the call of duty guys to stop this fake news bullshit. I love when the little people try and explain pure excellence and tip toe around themselves like furniture! Alas we have seen the nimble profane. Good for you get back to digging on tavistock and such you nothings.
So many clues here! I had mocked him for not knowing what "mods" are, so Jimmy made sure to use the word correctly in a sentence. He figured out how to use the boldface type, too! He can't help showing his arrogance, calling us "little people" and "nothings". (That's not really a clue, except to his identity.) There's a hint at how nervous they were about my skills, and how relieved to have diverted me. That's what he means when he says, "Alas we have seen the nimble profane."
But the big giveaway is how pleased he is to find me working hard on Sarasota. "Good for you," he says. "Good for you." Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy, stoned-out slave auctioneer Jimmy Comet. You are a cartoon villain.
Now, to be clear: Jimmy's blunder doesn't change the main thrust of my investigation. We still haven't gotten to the really big stuff yet. But it does draw a thick, black line connecting HLI to Brock. This is an important secondary goal. And because Jimmy didn't inform HLI of this little indiscretion, he also gave me something good to mess with HLI's head in a crucial moment on Day 3.
Plus it's freaking hilarious. I'm still laughing a month later.
Tomorrow's topic will be a surprise. No teaser.
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ababcb ago
The amount of effort going into discrediting Senate Anon/HLI is remarkable, especially given how the Senate Anon threads are not very well known outside of the Voat community. Most people I see who know about pizzagate have never heard of Senate Anon, so to see this much effort put into gaslighting makes me believe Senate Anon when he said "3. Arrests have been made based on threads like this and HTG. Many good cops are now posting in these threads."
https://8ch.net/pol/res/10589216.html#q10702433
Four long threads of convoluted conjecture and not one single concrete fact to back anything up? Your efforts will not save anyone.
SoberSecondThought ago
Ah, you're back! I was just saying a few minutes ago (well, 12:52 am Voat time) to @oftotc that HLI had apparently abandoned your character and was staking everything on @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt. You haven't posted in two days! But now, by sheer coincidence, at 1:31 am Voat time, here you are!
And of course you're not explaining how you came up with the fact that the head of SOBIB runs the Sarasota airport, while Senate Anon has never so much as mentioned Sarasota. Still nothing from you on that. Are you an insider too? Did you forget to tell us that part?
My surmise an hour ago was right on the money, wasn't it? Brock the paranoid's paranoid compartmentalizes his operation ... so he never told you precisely what secret you were protecting. That explains a lot. So our relationship is evolving. I've been giving you too much credit. Now apparently you're going to have to rely on hints from me to figure out what is going on.
Like I said to @oftotc, I delight in your additional misfortune.
ababcb ago
Yes, my job is not "working for David Brock" so I don't post on Voat all day every day.
lol this is ridiculous. I never came up with ANY information. All I ever did was copy and paste information back and forth between Voat and 8chan. Secondly, I do not believe it is true that Senate Anon has never mentioned Sarasota. After people began investigating the SOBIB directory a random anon using TOR pointed out that the head of SOBIB ran the Sarasota airport. Here is that post:
https://8ch.net/pol/res/10589216.html#q10625422
Here are the posts in that thread that are presumed to be Senate Anon because Senate Anon was posting in that thread with TOR. https://8ch.net/pol/res/10589216.html#q10629663
This poster may not be Senate Anon, but he is using TOR. Either way, it's irrelevant because it's true that illegal things are going on in Sarasota.
There's one thing that every comment, thread and post you make has in common; it is always impossible to tell what your point is. You are trying to confuse me and everyone who reads your posts. This is not going to work.
lol I know exactly what's going on, and that is a desperate gaslighting campaign because real arrests are being made because anons are digging up dirt criminal networks in Wisconsin, DC and Sarasota.
SoberSecondThought ago
I'm confident that people know what my point is. I'm saying that David Brock pays a guy to operate a bunch of sockpuppets including you, @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt, @fogdryer, HLI, and Senate Anon (plus minor walk-on characters). That's not the least bit confusing. It's either true or it's not, but nobody is confused about what I said.
There are still plenty of people reading this thread who are on the fence ... they want to believe I'm the real deal and that we've finally had a big breakthrough. But they have been manipulated so much, been disappointed so often, that they're having trouble trusting anything they read. That's not quite the same as being confused. They're being properly cautious.
And yes, for several days I certainly have been trying to confuse you, or more precisely, to prod you into making revealing mistakes. I kind of thought we were done with that phase, as I remarked to @oftotc a few hours ago. But I've been forced to re-evaluate that idea, because you (meaning @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt) have stuck so doggedly and single-mindedly to the Racine story.
Now, there was bound to be a bit of a problem in my mocking your/WIC's constant refrain of Racine and Paul Ryan, because we haven't gotten to that aspect of the story yet. That was going to be Day 8 material. I was mocking you for it in anticipation of a big reveal later, and trusting that readers would be willing to wait a little while for the full story. But you/WIC have been so clueless in your responses, it made me wonder out loud if I had been assuming more knowledge on your part than you really have. And minutes after I said that, suddenly I was no longer arguing with WIC, I was arguing with @ababcb, who has been missing for two days. It's kind of revealing to those who are still on the fence.
So I'll say this now: Paul Ryan is the actual target of WIC's constant Racine-Racine-Racine babble. The goal is to discredit him, to isolate him from potential allies, to cast doubt on anything he says or does, to fill the Internet with second-hand and third-hand references to Paul Ryan being a traitor. All the things that WIC says about the Rothschilds, the Council of 13, and so on, are side plays designed to draw in his conspiracy-minded audience and make his true intention harder to spot. While Ryan is WIC's target, Ryan is not the only target, and I will explain why he was made a target on Day 8.
So I guess if Brock really does compartmentalize his disinfo function, then you'll be finding out why on Day 8 along with everyone else.
Oh, no, it isn't irrelevant. The original charge I made was that HLI borrows the work of real researchers and passes it off as "insider" stuff. No matter how you rationalize on their behalf, HLI and Senate Anon both blatantly misrepresented the info they were sharing. They conned us. But when I said that, you came at me with a blizzard of wild accusations, that I wanted people to stop real-life investigations altogether (false), or that I wanted people to stop investigating Adams Morgan (also false), that I wanted to divert attention from Sarasota (really false as I did high-quality research on it), that I was shilling for the pedos, and so on. Then I put you in the hotseat for claiming that Senate Anon "risked his life" and for claiming that Senate Anon "came back" with the Sarasota info, when neither claim was true. You then vanished for two days, and didn't come back until moments after I pointed out your absence.
And now your defense is that a random anon generated the Sarasota lead, and that you knew it was really Senate Anon in disguise because he was using TOR.
Dude, you just don't act like a guy who has been accidentally swept up in a sockpuppet hunt. You're massively over-invested in defending these phony "insiders" and casting doubt on my arguments. There are other people who raise reasonable questions about one aspect or another of what I've said, and when they do, I address them. But you're in a class by yourself.
Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago
Again your entire premise is completely flawed. We work for David Brock, we are also HLI, and Paul Ryan is a good guy?
Is this comedy or investigation?
You are only digging yourself deeper into your own falsehoods.
We are HLI, and also US Senate Anon, and also @fogdryer, and also @ababcb, and who else? Where do you get this from?
So then if you are here to Save everyone, what is the real agenda if not global enslavement, and who is really involved if not the Council of 13 and others we have listed continuously?
We have been crystal clear from the beginning and we only post the Truth. You are not a credible source on Racine or anything elae we have posted about.
Start over with our Truth about Racine as the basis for a real investigation. We do not vouch for HLI. We disagree with much of what US Senate Anon claimed, but he know that he recognizes the Truth we have been telling about Racine, Wisconsin and the real agenda.
What is your objective and motive? Ours is the Truth and working with anyone else who is interested in Saving the world from criminal corruption and eternal enslavement.
ababcb ago
Again, you have not provided any evidence and everyone is confused by your longwinded and disorganized posts. As I pointed out, the ONLY thing people can gather from any of your posts is that HLI is "working for David Brock" which you have provided both 0 evidence and no reasoning for. You just claim that it's true and then go on a long, gaslighting tangent.
LOL we've got another George Webb here, eh? Nobody is taking you seriously.
So what? Who cares and why does it matter if they passed the information off as their own or not? This is what I mean when I say nothing you say makes sense and that nobody can figure out what your point is. Seriously, WHAT IS YOUR POINT when you say that he "passed off information as insider stuff"? How is this negative and how does this discredit the idea that shady stuff is going on in Racine, Adams Morgan, Sarasota, etc.?
This is classic gaslighting. Your posts are designed to distract and confuse, nothing else.
I am not even close to being as invested in this as you are, lol. You plan on making long winded posts for at least eight days straight and one little reply from me sets you off on a post like this? You've got your work cut out for you if that's the case. I'll be poking you with short statements in every single thread you make, forcing you to write out extremely long posts like this one. You WILL respond, exactly like this, every single time, because you're paid for it.
Again, you make wild speculation and accusation, refuse to ever back them up with concrete facts and are extremely invested in getting people to stop looking at anything and everything Senate Anon tells us to look at. What possible reason could there be for it to be such a big deal if someone is researching info they obtained from Senate Anon/HLI?
Why is this a bad thing? I think you're a shill who works for Paul Ryan, not David Brock.
Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago
Thank you @ababcb. @sobersecondrhought is wildly speculating and completely wrong.
For anyone who has not noticed it's all about him. We do not tell the Truth for our own credit. We feel an absolute obligation to the world to share the Truth that we know, because everyone's lives and souls are at stake.
Anyone who says "don't look into Racine" or other legitimate leads should be questioned with a high degree of skepticism, particularly when they are not a credible source on the topic.
Paul Ryan is a criminal and traitor and should be treated as such. David Brock is also a criminal. They are middle men to a much bigger and more powerful network.
Does anyone really trust Paul Ryan or David Brock? Even James Alefantis doesn't trust David Brock.
Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago
Paul Ryan is never getting arrested. Timothy Dolan is never getting arrested. Reince Priebus is not getting arrested. Tom DeLonge is not getting arrested. Evan McMullin is not getting arrested. Message us when any big arrests happen in Wisconsin.
The swamp cannot and will not be drained in our corrupt system. Paul Ryan is guarding the swamp, and those at the top are working above and beyond the reach of any effective justice.
For the record anything we posted about Sarasota is from research based on leads from sources. We do know for certain however the Royal Order of Jesters in Wisconsin is connected along with the Knights of Pythias among many more groups involved. We also know Rotary is involved, Freemasons are involved, and a long list of other groups including Paul Ryan and Scott Walker's close ties with Jesuit institutions including Marquette and Georgetown as two of the most prominent.
What do you want is to clarify to prove we are not following a controlled narrative, and that we are not connected in any way to High Level Insider?
Your premise of us being disinformation insiders is flawed. Consider changing it and find the real Truth and the "root" to the agenda in Racine.