angry_mob ago

no i don't get it. your homophobia is backwards & unacceptable. YOUR God is much too fallible to be real. why would God create gays (and has since the whole history of humanity as well as being prevalent in the animal kingdom) only to condemn them to hell??? that's illogical crap written by fallible, intolerant, ignorant HUMANS. it is NOT the word of the God that I know personally. nor is it anything whatsoever to do with Jesus' teachings. it's for dumb dumbs who don't know how to think for themselves!

angry_mob ago

& by the way. NONE of my gay friends was molested as a child. and they knew at a very young age that they were gay. they did NOT learn it somewhere, they were born that way.

angry_mob ago

you INBRED assholes need to stop with the homophobia. & you phony hypocritical religious twats need to get with jesus in a real way (he would kick you to the curb but fast) i'm sick of this shit. uptight, backwards, backwoods, ignorant, fear-oriented, devolving, hate mongering FOOLS need to find another cause! you need to take care of your own backyard before thinking you have the authority to tell other people that you don't even know - WHO THEY CAN SLEEP WITH! most pedos are heterosexual and really, they don't tend to identify with same sex adults or opposite sex adults - they identify with CHILDREN. that is their illness, attraction to children! get it??

DarkMath ago

Sorry but I gotta ask, what exactly about "Love One Another" lead you to calling me a "slimy, deflecting Jew"? (I'm actually a Christian bee tee dubs.)

DarkMath ago

"Take your pharisaic lies elsewhere."

That's the thing I'm quoting Jesus not the Pharisees. I'm not sure you're bright enough to pick that up. Let's review:

Jesus said there are only 2 Commandments:

1) Love God

2) Love One Another

So you can spout your shill bullshit all day long. You're not a Christian so I'm not surprised you don't understand the finer points of Christianity.

DarkMath ago

"what filthy Judaism teaches"

A Christian wouldn't say that. What's going on dude. Something not right with you.

"place a lot of weight on what Jews"

This isn't up for debate. Jesus was crucified for wanting to destroy The Law and for claiming he was God. After Jesus drove out all the money changers and a all the sacrificial animals out of the Temple he told the crowd I will tear down this house and in 3 days build another.

"This house" was the Temple in Jerusalem and it represented The Law. It would kind of be like someone going down to Washington DC and driving out all the state reps and Senators from the Capital building and telling the crowd who'd gathered outside: "I will tear down this Capital building and replace it with something better in three days."

Would whoever did that be interested in keeping a portion of the laws passed by that Congress? Of course not, don't be silly.

DarkMath ago

"Jesus "destroyed The Law"?"

According to Rabbis then and now Jesus Christ destroyed The Law and claimed he was God. This isn't even debatable. The fact you don't know what Judaism teaches about Jesus shows you haven't done much research.

DarkMath ago

"if Jesus had changed something, which he did not"

Jesus didn't change the original message he simplified it so even a 4 year old could understand it. That's the whole point of Jesus saying forget everything and just follow these two commandments:

1) Love God

2) Love One Another

You will lose this argument all day long because I will just keep repeating the fact Jesus said just following 2 commandments. It couldn't get any simpler. Stop trying to complicate things.

DarkMath ago

"You're a shill"

I'm a shill because I point out that Jesus destroyed The Law? You totally lost me bro.

HollandDrive ago

Jesus "destroyed" no moral law. He fulfilled the moral law. He was the epitome of the moral law, the essence of it. He wouldn't destroy himself. The only laws he changed were the ceremonial and temple sacrificial commands and various "feast days" that prefigured and "typed" him. You don't know what you're talking about. And you're too damn proud to admit it. Read some solid commentaries, preferably 16th and 17th century.

DarkMath ago

"The only laws he changed were the ceremonial and temple sacrificial commands and various "feast days""

That's simply not true. The Pharisees and the Jewish rabbinical staff say to THIS DAY Jesus destroyed The Law. There is no asterix at the end of that. They didn't say Jesus destroyed The Law except ceremonial, temple sacrificial and laws about "feast days".

They said Jesus destroyed The Law. It couldn't be simpler.

HollandDrive ago

If you're relying on rabbis to inform you about Christianity you will be confused. The law (ten commandments) was "destroyed" by Christ as a means of salvation, yes. Rather, done away with. For that. Salvation is by grace (it is a free offer) and not by "works" of the law. It always was, even in OT times. Otherwise none would be saved, as none can keep the law perfectly."Christ is the end of the law for salvation."

But the law is not abolished (and never will be) as a rule of life (or living). As one puritan put it, the law (moral law) will be the rule of life in heaven. So it is perpetual, everlasting, it cannot be broken. I am speaking of the Moral Law, summed up in the Ten Commandments. The psalmist was quoting Christ (to come) when he said "I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart." Christ cannot "destroy" the law of God which is engraved in his heart, and that to eternity.

It's a deep subject, but not hard to grasp with the right info. There is an abundance of commentaries available by good men, literally millions of pages, and they do not contradict one another on this subject, though written over a period of hundreds of years. Anyway, I won't continue. Beginning to sound like a sermon. I apologize for that.

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/

DarkMath ago

"As one puritan put it"

I don't listen to Puritans or anyone else about what Jesus taught. I go right to the man himself. Jesus said there were only two Commandments:

1) Love God

2) Love One Another

:-D

Pg_is-insane ago

Oh sweet NAMBLA where would I bee without thee. I'm so pervy I can't stand it. Thankfully I was born this way I must put penis in child. If you want to tell voat what a fucking pedophile I am my password it's Facebook.

James A.

Pizzalawyer ago

Of course you have to use a child since your pee pee is only as big as your little finger. We should promote your case on GoFund-Me so that you can have some surgery in Thailand that will enable you to fuck a grown woman. Ill gladly donate 50.00.

Pg_is-insane ago

My password is Facebook. Log in to my account and tell the world because I must be stopped I can't help myself.

James A.

Saibra ago

My best friend is gay. He comes from a family of 8 kids, six are boys. All six of the boys are gay. His parents and each other had no idea until each came out in their late 20's. One time we were drinking and I asked him how he knew he was gay. He said he didn't. He was raped by his father's business partner when he was a kid, and it became normal to him. He found out all his brothers were raped as well. Not saying that this happens to all, but it certainly happened to this family. If I were the father, the business partner wouldn't be alive anymore. (I'm a female btw, if it matters).

00-00 ago

Even Milo. Same thing.

I'd say homosexuality comes from 2 sources:

  • Being molested as a child
  • Being recruited by the gay lobby, often weak people.

There might by a third one:

  • Being born that way, but I find the jury is still out on this one.

In a very twisted way, NAMBLA is a recruiting tool.

equineluvr ago

Every lesbian woman I have known (less than ten) was severely abused by her male relatives (brother, father, uncle, grandfather, etc.). As a result, they were afraid of men and hated them. One woman who had been "lesbian" her entire life met a loving, gentle, patient man while in her 60s and suddenly "wasn't gay" anymore.

Of course, our anecdotal stories are statistically moot. But I suspect there is tons of abuse behind these homosexuals. I also am convinced that a parent with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) is a recipe for having homo offspring. There are tons of survivor children of NPD parents, and the rate of gayness amongst them and their siblings is through the sky. I know of several homosexual males who had overbearing mothers who "wore the pants" and they had weak, effeminate, ineffectual fathers. I believe that this role reversal is a factor.

garouwarrior ago

Knew a gay man in one of my previous jobs.

He ended up being that way when he was molested by an older man when he was young. Said he enjoyed it and became gay.

What percentage of gay men have a similar background? Now that would be very, VERY interesting...

DrTeethateJanice ago

I had a buddy in college who was raped by his uncle when he was a child and then came out as gay as an adult. He was basically asexual until his senior year when he came out. He spent most of his teen years questioning his sexuality and wondering why that happened to him. I honestly don't think he would have been gay if his uncle never raped him.

AngB23 ago

If the LBGT community truly doesn't support NAMBLA/BAMN and does not want the "P" added to their never ending initials, then they best be speaking out and AGAINST this movement. We know the kid rapists are adding the P onto LBGTQxyz as a Love is Love shit.

It's all over YT, Twitter, FB...and for the LBGT community to remain silent is condoning. They will then get lumped into this disgusting mess. Pedos are hiding behind "protected political correctness, bullshit and we need to call out every group, race and religion that hides these assholes. None of them are exempt

garouwarrior ago

QFT 1000%

The research I have done on this seems to indicate that ALL of the Christian denominations have been compromised and controlled by Freemasons and other secret societies. Anyone who says differently or is only concentrated on a particular denomination are SHILLS.

Will post a thread on this sometime soon.

DarkMath ago

You lost me bro.

DarkMath ago

"watching paint dry"

I know. Taking the red pill can be fucking horrible sometimes. All the pedophilia used to make me want to vomit when I first saw the evidence. But now the only thing that makes me nauseous is the knowledge my government would be involved in this shit like Brownstone Ops, Sandy Hook and 9/11. All day every day I have a very faint urge to puke my guts out. It's fucking brutal.

DarkMath ago

You think I'm a shill?

O_O

Believe me there are a 1000 things I'd rather be doing than this sordid shit.

DarkMath ago

"sodomy is a sin"

The Old Testament considered many things to be sinful. Jesus changed all that. How many Mitzvot or Commandments are there in the Old Testament? (HINT: It's not 10)

Take your time I'll wait.

HollandDrive ago

The Old Testament considered many things to be sinful.

By what authority?

Jesus changed all that.

By what authority?

DarkMath ago

"By what authority?"

Jesus Christ

(you've heard of Jesus Christ right? if not i can break out the crayons.)

HollandDrive ago

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

What Jesus Christ is saying here is that the entire OT law (including the prophets), which you say were changed by Jesus, is summarily comprehended in these two statements/commandments. In other words, the ten commandments and OT teachings (moral law) remain, by authority of Christ. But this is futile to argue. You know very well what the followers of Christ, the apostolic founders of Christianity, taught about homosexuality.

DarkMath ago

There aren't 10 Commandments in the Old Testament. Do some research and get back to me.

"OT teachings (moral law) remain"

Really? Why are Christians allowed to eat pork then? The OT is very explicit, pork is forbidden.

HollandDrive ago

Eating pork was not part of the moral law. The better question would have been "Why don't we still stone adulterers?" I'm not the one lagging in research. As I said, stick to math, drop the theology. I'm done now.

DarkMath ago

"I'm not the one lagging in research. "

You think there are only 10 Commandments in the Old Testament. It's not me who needs to do more research.

HollandDrive ago

OK I'll bite. Please elaborate. But you'll have to unseat thousands of solid theologians over the past several hundred years, and you'll not be able to do that. You can have the last word. Take care.

DarkMath ago

"unseat thousands of solid theologians over the past several hundred years"

You mean like Martin Luther did when he nailed his 99 thesis on the door of that church?

:-D

HollandDrive ago

Yeah, I mean like that. In so doing he unseated thousands of corrupt ones that went before him.

Possibly you're saying that there are many commandments scattered throughout the OT besides the 10 given in Exodus. That's true. But these are all "summarily comprehended" in the 10. For example "Thou shalt not commit adultery" included also modest dress, chaste behavior, and much more, just as "Thou shalt not steal" meant honest business dealings, fraud, reporting theft of a friend's property to authorities, etc.

DarkMath ago

You seem to be differentiating commandments and their punishments but this isn't an a la carte menu at the Olive Garden.

Jesus said there are only 2 Commandments that replaced all Commandments in the Old Testament both original AND corrupted AND all their punishments. This was one of the reasons he was crucified. The other being he claimed he was God. The point is the Pharisees and Jews to this day claim Jesus tried to destroy The Law. A better way of saying that would be they think Jesus tried to destroy The Mitzvot.

So implicit in Jeses' two commandments are the revocation of all corrupted Mitzvot and their associated punishments. Remember Jesus storms the Temple and turns over the money changers tables AND drives out all the animals with a whip. He might as well have soaked the Old Testament in a bucket of gasoline and set it on fire. When Jesus says he didn't change even one tiddle of The Law what he is saying is I'm going back to the beginning and getting rid of your corrupt asses. Jesus is saying YOU the Pharisees have changed the word of God not me.

It's very common to mistake to think Jesus didn't change one iota of the Old Testament. It's used often to discredit Christianity. Even some Protestant churches would like very much for the Old Testament Law to still hold true.

But the Truth is there are only 2 Commandments in Christianity.

1) Love God

2) Love One Another

To determine what's a sin you ask whether that thing violates either 1) or 2). If it doesn't then it's not a sin. Case closed.

carmencita ago

It may just have to be a very disgusting video of some elites at one of their party or a hacking into Wiener's emails or BO laptop or something as disgustingly heinous. I can't beliee that someone has not hacked into one of these elites with a child. A lot of the older elites are really dumb and stupid when it comes to the internet. Think JP and 1234.

carmencita ago

You bring up a good point. Also stats are so skewed now, as we have seen in politics. They ask questions that will give them the outcome they desire. People believe these things because they want to. They rarely will drastically change their thinking. Something earth shattering must happen.

DarkMath ago

"are part of a psychological operation"

Yep, my thoughts exactly. Whoever posted this video is either a bigot or a disinfo agent.

https://youtu.be/LvueLzFMjlI?t=952

Or both.

DarkMath ago

LGBT doesn't support NAMBLA. There are members of LGBT who have supported NAMBLA. There's a big difference.

Homosexuals are as outraged by pedophilia as anyone else.

Your ignorance of that fact kiiiiiiiiiiiiiind of makes me think you're a shill.

00-00 ago

What is the difference?

No one here says ALL gay people support NAMBLA, I'm sure many don't. But leading figures certainly have and there are these undertones in the LGBT movement for sure.

DarkMath ago

"But leading figures certainly have"

Like who? The only example is some old pervert who broke off from L.G.B.T.. If LGBT was so supported of pedophilia why was NAMBLA created?

The only answer is Pedophilia wasn't acceptable within LGBTs so a small group of pedophile pervs broke off.

00-00 ago

Recent example is Milo. Ok, he was not stating support for NAMBLA explicitly, I think explicit support has not been fashionable for quite some time, if that is your point I think you might be right, but Milo certainly spoke positively about relationships between young boys and older men. That did not go down well with his conservative supporter base, however, they could tolerate his gayness because everything else he does on other accounts, but pedophilia that was a bridge too far. He seems to have come back now and I like that, I also hope he has learned to stay way off the pedophilia topic (whatever his own actual views hopefully we will never hear them expressed again).

You have the examples in the video posted, I've also read several others from around the same time-period but I can't remember the names (the website where I read about it was homosexuellt.com but it has been censored as they were Swedish and writing in Swedish).

Edit: You say LGBT like is was an organization, is it not more a set of ideas? Rather spread out. A bunch of people working toward the goal to have more sexual deviancy in the world. Wanting to recruit others to live homosexual lifestyles, as well as increase the acceptance of said deviancy in public, introduce speech laws etc.

I have never looked closer at NAMBLA, but it would surprise me a lot if they did not subscribe to these set of ideas that goes under the banner "LGBT".

DarkMath ago

"but it would surprise me a lot if they did not subscribe to these set of ideas that goes under the banner "LGBT""

You should look into it more. LGBT are adamant in their condemnation of Pedophilia. I think you may be thinking of the age of consent is 16 in some states and gay or straight an adult can have sex with a 16 year old. But that's not what the Pedophilia NAMBLA is talking about. They're talking about pre-pubescent boys. It's sick as fuck.

00-00 ago

My views are mostly shaped by what I know from my native Sweden, here the organizations (RFSL/RFSU) that are at the forefront of pushing LGBT (here it's called HBTQ where the Q was just added a few years ago) they are the going around in schools and encouraging kids to act out their sexuality "whatever that is".

Here what is included is not at all well defined, instead the definitions are ever expanding, every year a bunch of new sexual weirdness is discovered and added to the protection list. Even the very act of trying to put forth some kind of rigid definition of what kind of sexuality they are talking about is seen a unforgivable statement, as their very point is that all these things are floating and should never be limited by anyone else putting petty things like definitions in the way of the free expression of sexuality.

Here is some background on RFSL:

  • They used to have a subgroup called "The pedophile workgroup".

  • Axel Axgil called "the modern Scandinavian homo movement's grand old man", was one of the founders of RFSL. He also out of "solidarity" joined the Danish Pedophile Association and they held an international conference in 1986 with pedophiles from all over the world, where the Swedish delegation was represented by the pedophile workgroup.

Here is a more recent example from Sweden (also RFSL):

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friatider.se%2Fkand-pedofilledare-invigde-pride&edit-text= http://www.friatider.se/kand-pedofilledare-invigde-pride

But these things really goes back to Alfred Kinsey himself and his talk about "the sexuality of children".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVC-1d5ib50

Omnicopy ago

This world is so messed up. Homosexuality is a sin

mrobot ago

Think before you spout toxic nonsense, and go see a shrink about your imaginary friend.

DarkMath ago

"Homosexuality is a sin"

Actually it isn't a sin if you're a Christian. Jesus only had two Commandments:

1) Love God

2) Love One Another

You'll find references to homosexuality in the Bible but Jesus never mentions it.

Jesus would say would say Pedophilia is a sin because a child can't be expected to decided whether having sex with an adult is ok. It ain't. Any adult having sex with a child is rape because a child can't give informed consent. This is just common sense. Adults shouldn't fuck children. It's pretty simple.

HollandDrive ago

Stick to math, pass on the theology.

DarkMath ago

"Stick to math, pass on the theology."

Thanks guy who believes the Earth is flat. How about you stick to fantasy and I'll stick to reality. Deal?

:-D

YingYangMom ago

Hey I'm sorry, I'm a Christian and I don't believe in flat earth. In what category do you put me then? LOL

HollandDrive ago

I'm sticking you in the "I'm a Christian who doesn't believe the earth is flat category." :)

YingYangMom ago

Ha, good category :)

DarkMath ago

I don't think you read that right. I told him I can't find someone who believes the Earth is flat to be credible about anything.

YingYangMom ago

I see. And I thought my "jesting" was going to get me a "not-so-nice" baptism of some sort, haha. Better luck next time YingYangMom ; -)

DarkMath ago

I don't get it.

YingYangMom ago

I was just teasing you to see what kind of retort you'd give me. It's all good.

carmencita ago

Me too. They are covering up for themselves and pushing it onto the gays. Making people think that it is part of being gay and being born that way. Dunces.

carmencita ago

But what does she mean, up to 70%? That is preposterous. There are many more heterosexual men AND women than gays that are pedophiles. I may have heard wrong.

garouwarrior ago

If "pedophilia" is about all boys under 18 years of age, then that figure could actually be accurate.

If we are strictly speaking of prepubescent boys, then that figure is going to be far lower.

carmencita ago

I think it should include all boys. If boys are coerced into giving in at an age when they are not experienced or naive, it is abuse. Especially when the abuser threatens them. We should get numbers on the ages of the boys, but no matter the age of the boy the abuser is always a pedophile.

carmencita ago

Thank you for your sincere and informative Post and Thoughts. You present it in an unbiased and non homophobic manner. This is what we need more of. Less to divide and more to unite.