https://victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics Statistics don't lie... girls are MUCH more likely to be molested than boys... 1 in 5 versus 1 in 20. Majority (75%) of pedos are heterosexual. But you are correct in that the pedos that ARE gay do tend to be the faces of the gay movement etc. Hollywood as well. Like ALL things infiltrate they operate at the top.
No -- unless you want to say that heterosexual males attracted to girls who are under 16 and technically minors -- that all of those guys
are pedophiles. All you need is an age difference of 5 years and poof -- you're a pedophile. I'm not condoning these relationships at any rate
-- it seems to me the guys are usually immature and unable to deal with a female their own age. These relationships often result in
pregnancies because they guys don't know how to protect themselves or the girls.
Keep in mind that in order for the Catholic Church to continue on abusing women and children and their members, they need to hide
the reality that it is not homosexual priests who are the pedophiles sexually abusing children. The RCC has over 1,000 years and
more preached vile propaganda against gays from their altars -- calling homosexuality an "abomination." In fact, they convinced
parents of these children to abandon their own children - to throw them out of their homes. Thankfully, those days are over and
families are no longer submissive to the preachings of the RCC. We also know that perhaps 1,000 years ago the RCC was performing
gay marriages.
After reading this stuff for months, what kinds of people and institutions have NOT been found to be "hiding behind" some movement to conceal SRA and child trafficking?
It's a much shorter list that way. Crimes have to be punished case-by-case based on evidence. Demonizing whole groups is not investigation.
I'm demonizing an entire group >> PEDO'S AND CHILD RAPISTS Your attempt to obfuscate that fact with your weak strawman argument is noted. This will not be a 'case by case' endeavor. This is about destroying the worldwide network of human trafficking and systematic raping and murdering of children.
Anything done legally is case-by-case based on evidence. That's simply a statement of fact. But sure, you destroy those networks without understanding how that could happen in reality. Good luck.
Man touches boy, boy learns that's what affection is, grows up and identifies as gay, everyone celebrates, thinks this is what love looks like, becomes a man, man touches boy, etc etc etc
And Disney is making some characters in Beauty and the Beast gay FFS.
The team have now revealed one character, LeFou, will experience Disney’s first ever “gay moment” on screen, as he struggles with his feelings for ultra-macho leading man Gaston.
In an interview with Attitude magazine, director Bill Condon said: “LeFou is somebody who on one day wants to be Gaston and on another day wants to kiss Gaston.
“He’s confused about what he wants. It’s somebody who’s just realizing that he has these feelings.
“And Josh [Gad, who plays LeFou] makes something really subtle and delicious out of it.
“And that’s what has its pay-off at the end, which I don’t want to give away. But it is a nice, exclusively gay moment in a Disney movie.”
"Michael Hanson, a gay student living in Edinburgh, who became the group's first chairman. Although Hansen did not identify as a paedophile, his sexual relationship with a 15-year-old (who he thought was 16) and the disparate age of consent laws for heterosexual and homosexual activity made Hansen sympathise with paedophile advocacy.[a][5]
Since the majority of enquiries were from England, in 1975 PIE relocated to London, where 23-year-old Keith Hose became chairman.[4] The group's stated aim was "to alleviate [the] suffering of many adults and children" by campaigning to abolish the age of consent thus legalising sex between adults and children.[6][7] During the early days of its activism, Tom O'Carroll stated that only a small a small group of people were "in the know" about groups such as PIE, namely "readers of gay newspapers and magazines, and others in gay circles who had heard by word of mouth".[5]
The Paedophile Action for Liberation (also known as Paedophile Awareness and Liberation) had developed as a breakaway group from South London Gay Liberation Front.[8] "
Clear link in France too with G.R.E.D. group advocating pedomania in the early 80's:
This is the second thread that I have seen that is attempting to isolate gay or other non straights and focus on their role in child exploitation. Wrong focus IMO, because you can say all the same thing about straights, or christian pedos, or atheist pedos etc etc. The need to link gay to pedo is a trap. I have to wonder if this is intentional, or just honest musings you are vocalising. Either way, it should be rejected.
If you read above that is not what he is trying to say. He is saying that pedos are hiding among gay men. They are like Alefantis and really are not that interested in men, only kids, but they use their boyfriends/husbands kind of like a beard.
Wasn't that in part due to "parents" sending their kids back or abandoning them after they acted out due to trauma and abuse caused by being ploped in a completely foreign place? There was a high profile case that was on Dr Phil with the "hot sauce mom". She had her 13 year old daughter videotape her while she forced the little boy to stand in the shower, then drink hot sauce and hold it in his mouth while she screamed at him.
Ah i see. That's interesting about the notion of superiority. Can't say I'm a common news site browser. Tried my best to avoid politics but can't look away after discovering this evillol
Very NSFW but check out the "mommys girl" videos on youporn, they use these exact plots. Lesbians adopting a foster kid and making them do sex to be good girls or else they will be punished or sent back to foster care. More mainstream porn sites didnt used to have this level of pedo-implying filth, it's sickening how they depict family/adoption scenarios.
There is much to be feared from a PEDOPHILE Manifesto -- because our pedophiles are males, but they are HETEROSEXUAL males (see my post above) .....
Heterosexuals are 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child than a homosexual.
But what you posted is alleged to be a "gay" manifesto and it's difficult to imagine that it speaks for ALL of the gay community. How many homosexuals actually signed on to it? Or is it more likely an attempt at a smear on the gay community?
Obviously intended to create fear . . .
But pedophiles don't just sodomize your sons, they sodomize your daughters, as well. They sexually abuse both sexes.
And they sometimes murder these kidnapped children, as well. Infants in their own homes, can be sexually abused by their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, cousins -- and friends of the family and ALL of that was related to Sigmund Freud by his young male and female patients. Sigmund Freud (who is believed to have been a pedophile himself) betrayed his patients in the Oedipus Complex which makes the outrageous suggestion that it is infants, toddlers and young children who are the sexual aggressors against adult males in their families.
Mothers have to be more aware of protecting their children from heterosexual males who come in contact with them.
Females have to be educated as to who pedophiles are and they have to educate their children.
But we have to also ensure that children of school age are properly educated in our elementary and secondary schools to protect themselves from sexual abusers. "Good touch/bad touch" is one helpful way to do it. We have to stop letting pedophiles move from one school to another when caught and we have to ensure that the prison sentences are long enough to keep pedophile rings from reforming.
We have seen the damage done to young males in the Sandusky scandal where it seems these males had only total TRUST in their coaches and athletic directors. WHY should they have been left so ignorant? Same with child actors.
Ignorance only benefits pedophiles and their scheming. By the time that a student gets to college and dormitory life, certainly they should have been made aware of the potential for pedophiles to cross their paths. If not -- then whatever happens is the fault of all of society.
Seminaries are something we all know about -- evidently they are notorious places for pedophile activity and especially YOUNG boys entering seminaries -- as young as 14 years of age/? -- should be warned and told what to do if they encounter these problems.
Movie bathrooms? This can be a problem if force is being used, but can also be avoided if males do what women do -- "take a friend along to rest rooms."
We have seen some of the problems with pedophiles in Congress and we need to further investigate all of the cases and the perpetrators. It is doubtful that Congressional leaders weren't aware of these criminal activities, or that they themselves may not be involved in them.
The Military is a great problem as related by Kay Griggs/YouTube. There is sexual abuse of every kind and physical force of every kind. There is pressure on wives to enter into some of these activities. And all of it is kept in play by threats to lives of soldiers and spouses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMDy8HCo5iw&t=4s
We have less concerns where young men and women are over the age of consent -- PROVIDED that they have been educated as to the pedophile problem. And what to do about it if they encounter it.
Meanwhile -- as we see from the research and investigations of going on here, the LOGO's used by pedophiles have been exposed and many of them have had to be removed from store fronts and from advertising. Citizens will be looking to identify pedophile organizations and will be watching for these LOGO's.
That will hamper efforts by pedophiles to attract other pedophiles and introduce them to criminal activities.
Trafficking of children also requires institutions -- often run by churches -- and places to hide children. It involves the necessary to be able to communicate (if not advertise) the availability of children. We have to demand that kidnappings of children be immediately and extensively investigated.
And we have to ensure that everyone in our government is aware that citizens consider the pedophile problem to be of major concern -- the kidnapping of children to be a major concern -- and that we expect aggressive investigation of these cases.
And of trafficking itself.
the only way you can justify heterosexuals as having higher rape stats, is to use the false idea that a man who rapes a boy is somehow heterosexual even though he found his gratification in a same sex context.
The Gay Manifesto doesn't seem to be pedophilia exactly. To sodomize your sons probably meant after age 18 and after successful seduction, i.e. consensual sex.
Well, that figures, even though I never thought or heard of it before. Anyone who wants to get married, or adopt kids, whether gay or straight, should have to take an oath not to engage in pedophilia or any other abuses.
It's been going on forever within the elites. It is them that is using the movement to normailize and include it. That's not making judgement on normal people with souls.
snippet of 2009 cable where certifications are legally required
Background
(SBU) In July 1993, the UN Economic and Social Council
(ECOSOC) granted consultative status (roster) to the
International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA). During the
fall of 1993, USUN learned that the North American Man-Boy
Love Association (NAMBLA), a group that had endorsed
pedophilia, was a member of ILGA. USUN contacted ILGA to
seek clarification and to make clear
U.S. opposition granting direct or indirect ECOSOC
consultative status to pro-pedophilia groups. Responding to
the ILGA controversy, Senator Jesse Helms introduced an
amendment to the biennial State authorization bill in January
1994, to ensure that pro-pedophilia groups are not affiliated
with the United Nations. This amendment became Section 102
(g) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act for fiscal
years 1994 and 1995 (the Act).
Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
What we are facing is what the Catholic Church was supposed to prevent and they seem to be the instigators and abettors of the problem. Christianity was founded by the Catholic Church, and we have faced Inquisitions and Holocausts under their leadership. There is wisdom in old books, but crucifying the innocent for the sinner is not wise and is in fact evil.
whoah.. easy tiger. there's definitely a separation that needs to be made here..... Not disputing the fact that a manifesto of this nature exists... but to assume that everyone with a homosexual brain lives by some twisted creed is a terrible, terrible assumption. My dad has a gay twin... dad = not gay, twin = gay. The point here being that most people with brains wired to be attracted to the same sex did not choose such an existence. Plenty of studies done and all that good stuff. The reason people would follow such a twisted manifesto is not due to their hardwired preferences.... planning to negatively impact and control other humans is not the same domain as hardwired sexual attraction.
Homosexuals are NOT our sexual abusers of children so don't quite get this ...
Males are our sexual abusers of children but they are heterosexual males, as studies show.
Heterosexual males are 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child than a homosexual male.
It is the Catholic Church which has tried to float the idea that their priest sexual abusers of
children are homosexuals and that their pedophile problem in the RCC is due to homosexuals.
This is a lie.
Here's the some details on the study --
"Focus on the Facts" -- Sean Cahill, PH.D
A 1998 Study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual.
Research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are less likely than heterosexual to sexually abuse children.
Perhaps the most egregious and damaging claim promulgated by anti-gay groups is the claim that homosexuality is intrinsically linked to pedophilia and child sexual abuse. The social science research on sexual orientation and child sexual abuse clearly disproves the claim that homosexuals are more likely to molest children.
A 1998 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual. One researcher explained this statistic by noting, "Gay men desire consensual sexual relations with other adult men. Pedophiles are usually adult men who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. They are rarely sexually attracted to other adults. In fact, research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are LESS likely than heterosexuals to sexually abuse children. Two studies that examined the sexual orientation of convicted child molesters found that less than 1% in one study and 0% in the other were lesbian or gay. One psychologist reviewed the existing social science literature on the relationship between sexuality and child sexual abuse and found that "a gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children." Further, "cases of perpetration of sexual behavior with a pre-pubescent child by an adult lesbian are virtually nonexistent."
Gay rights activists, like all advocates for children's welfare, oppose child sexual abuse and support equitable age of consent laws that help prevent and punish such abuse.
At least 110,000 children are waiting to be adopted in the US. Approximately 588,00 children are currently in foster care. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need.
Children who remain in foster care for much of their childhood, as do tens of thousands of American children, are more likely to have emotional problems. Some children in foster care live in 20 or more homes by the time they reach the age of 18. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting is not simply unjust and unethical; it also decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need.
Research shows that children raised by gay and lesbian parents are not disadvantaged vis-a-vis their peers raised by heterosexual parents.
Footnote 65 -- p.123
A review of 352 medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse during a 12-month period at a Denver children's hospital found that less than 1% had been abused by a gay man or a lesbian. Of 269 adult perpetrators of child abuse identified among the 352 cases of abuse, only two were gay or lesbian. The vast majority of the children in the study (82%) "were suspected of being abused by a man or a woman who was, or had been, in a heterosexual relationship with a relative of the child." And the review concluded that in this sample, " a child's risk of being molested by his or her relative's heterosexual partner is over 100X greater [than the risk of being molested] by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual."
Jenny, C., and Roesler, T.A. (1994)
Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals? Pediatrics. 94(1).p.44.
In an earlier study of convicted male child molesters in Massachusetts, none of the 175 men were found to have an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation or to be primarily attracted to other adult men.
Groth, A.N., and Birnbaum, H.J. (1978).
Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons.
Archives of Sexual Behavior.7(3).pp.175-181.
Also : The right-wing "Family Research Council" notes/confirms findings that "almost all child sexual abuse is committed by men."
CIA's MKULTRA has further complicated the problem of pedophiles by using torture and sexual abuse to create "disassociation" or multiple personalities which can be programmed. The victim often has no idea what they are doing in life as other of those personalities. These new personalities can be given photographic memories, trained as homosexual prostitutes, and have also been used as drug runners and for blackmail/espionage -- spying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
Americans have also to begin to understand that drug trafficking is more profitable than our MIC -- !!
And that -- just like child trafficking and organ trafficking and organized crime -- it has to be protected by corrupted individuals in our government. And, certainly our military is involved in all of this trafficking.
The percentage of male homosexuals among convicted child molesters is many times higher than the percentage of male homosexuals in the general population”
That's a religiously based website which is, of course, anxious to link homosexuals to pedophile activity which is untrue according to the study I've posted above. And, also untrue if you understand what MKULTRA was doing in programming males kidnapped to serve government purposes. When "affairs" no longer worked - and when homosexuality no longer worked, CIA turned to blackmailing pedophiles they had moved into government.
Unfortunately one of the worst sources for telling the truth about homosexuals is "male-supremacist religion" which all along has tried to set a heterosexuality as a "norm" for all societies. But it's a lie. I can tell you that even back in the AIDS era, in Brazil ... even doctors there were amazed to find that so many males in their society also loved other males. Approximately 30% of them! And they came to realize this because so many heterosexual females were coming down with AIDS, though they didn't use drugs and they hadn't had sex with other than their partners/or other heterosexual males. 30% of males are obviously either bi-sexual or hiding the fact that they have sex with other males.
And here's another story about the reliability of homosexuals in caring for children . . .
In older times in Hawaii before the coming of the "white" man to screw things up, homosexuals were held in honor and high esteem in Hawaiian society because of their care for orphaned children.
Why would they make it harder on themselves to say they're gay etc when they could just team up as husband/wife boylovers/girllovers teams and adopt low key?
I'm saying that there is nothing in the Bible to help us with this problem at this time. It seems to be an instruction manual on the good that can come by crucifying the innocent. I mean, even God let his only begotten Son be tortured and murdered for the sake of the sinners. It's an inappropriate example to set....and to use to define the problems of today.
I stayed out of the argument this time but know, that this is a faction of idiots and does not represent most people here. There are shills that would put this up there in an attempt tp discredit, and I think that is the majority of upvoats. And then there are just always some fundy haters, can't escape them and their dogma anywhere.
This is a faction of idiots and does not represent most people here. There are shills that would put this up there in an attempt tp discredit, and I think that is the majority of upvoats. And then there are just always some fundy haters, can't escape them and their dogma anywhere.
As if because somebody pens a gay manifesto, that gays are a group that has such a bible and an agenda. Bad bad thread that is starting a bunch of bullshit. Big downvote.
Not true. "You shall not commit murder" is repeated in the NT, in some cases with Jesus literally quoting the OT. Last I checked, child sacrifice is definitely murder, and God specifically condemns child sacrifice in the OT too. It doesn't matter if it wasn't said again in the NT, because the OT and the NT go together. Secondly, pedophiles molesting children definitely falls under "sexual immorality", which is condemned numerous times in the NT.
Nobody with any amount of honesty could read all of the various condemnations of murder and sexual immorality in both the OT and NT, and then basically go tell other people that pedophilia and child sacrifice are totally fine according to the Bible. Also, just because something was only spelled out explicitly in the OT, does not mean it doesn't apply in the NT. You would know that if you understood how the OT and NT work together. You think you do, but you don't. But seriously, get real. Just the simple commandment "You shall love your neighbor as yourself" alone makes it plain that molesting and sacrificing children is wrong. Is it loving to molest and sacrifice the neighbor kid next door? I mean hello, obviously not.
Leviticus 18:6 'None of you shall approach any blood relative of his to uncover nakedness; I am the Lord .
Leviticus 18:10 (You shall not uncover) 'The nakedness of your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for their nakedness is yours.
Leviticus 18:21 'You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord.
Leviticus 20:2-5 'Any man from the sons of Israel or from the aliens sojourning in Israel who gives any of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. 3 'I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name. 4 'If the people of the land, however, should ever disregard that man when he gives any of his offspring to Molech, so as not to put him to death, 5 then I Myself will set My face against that man and against his family, and I will cut off from among their people both him and all those who play the harlot after him, by playing the harlot after Molech.
2 Kings 21:6 And he burned his son as an offering and used fortune-telling and omens and dealt with mediums and with necromancers. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.
Jeremiah 32:35 They built the high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
So, God forbids incest of blood relatives (duh, children can be your blood relatives), and you're telling me it's reasonable to think God is okay with molesting non-blood relative children? God forbids child sacrifice numerous times, and you're telling me you think it's suddenly allowed in the NT?
"Sexual Immorality" has been very open to interpretation the past two thousand years. When did I say that God is okay with anything or even needs to be a reference point here? I'm saying that the Bible will not help us because it only teaches what is wrong, not how to rectify the wrong. Now, specifically, in the Bible, where does it tell the nation how to smoke the pedophiles out of their holes and what to do with them? It's not there. I'm not saying that the Bible doesn't "condemn" or "condone" (that's all it does, in my opinion) I'm saying that it doesn't teach us the signs of what is being done in secrecy and how to stop it.
If a female said any of the above, would you consider it okay? 180 degrees of wrong is still wrong. Rape is rape and wrong is wrong. Now, why do all those rape, anti-stalking and molestation laws apply only to females? Why are they considered "women's issues" by..."women". Are the ladies setting this all up to pimp you out?
Did you choose to be straight, or was it a gut instinct? Are you equally attracted to men and women, and it was just a choice on your part? Should straight people without biological children also be barred from adoption, since they "cursed nature"?
accept the curse.
And all those orphans with no parents get cursed too by keeping them alone, with no parents to help them with homework.
The pedos are trying to use "bathroom rights" to normalize the intermingling of the sexes in traditionally private areas so that pedos have easier access to children.
How is a sign on a door with a pink circle or a drawing of someone with a triangle bottom going to stop a dude from going in there to play grabby-grabby?
Parts of Massachusetts have allowed trans people to use the washroom they feel most comfortable with since 1997. They have had zero cases related to a trans woman going into the womens washroom to harass other women. Other states that have changed their washroom policies also have no reported cases. You know what is reported though? Cases of trans women getting beaten for being in the "wrong bathroom" often times when they are in the MALE bathroom.
We just had a guy go into the women's bathroom and taking pictures over the stall with his cell phone... You don't get it. This shit is bad enough as it is. The last thing we need to do is try to normalize men being allowed in the women's bathroom.
How is a sign on a door with a pink circle or a drawing of someone with a triangle bottom going to stop a dude from going in there to play grabby-grabby?
Because most washrooms are stalls. A man would stick out like a sore thumb in a women's bathroom. So while he is in there if a woman walks in the gig is up. But if he could claim Trans well I guess he could play that card.
Sort of a cop-out answer, as ideally, a thread should provide enough information and references for its overall thesis to be clearly explained. I.e., "research it all yourself" sort of defeats the primary purpose of starting a thread in the first place.
A thread doesn't have to answer all of the questions it poses - a thread can simply ask questions, too. People can also use this forum to share their opinions.
Think of the gay people you know and ask yourself if this manifesto would seem agreeable to them. Give it to your homosexual friends and ask them if they think the manifesto reflects how they feel. Until we know the facts as to how many people in the gay community agree with this, we'll just have to share opinions on the matter.
I think a lot of homosexuals I have met are very political and some are, to some degree, militant. I think they might agree with this manifesto. What do other people think?
You're right, it doesn't have to answer questions it poses. Always nice when it does though!
There are, of course, militant gay people, but of the many gay people I know, all would be utterly disgusted by this. Maybe other people hang with crazier gays than I do though.
Controversial but much needed post. I urge sensitivity but also honest reflection.
There is an undeniable link between homosexuality and paedophilia. We might hate it, we might feel uncomfortable admitting it, but it is there and its undeniable. But it is also true that it does not reflect on ALL gays, not by any stretch.
These two facts are not mutually exclusive and can both be true.
Let me tell you my experience as a Social Worker who worked in child protection, childrens homes, mental health units and sex offenders (probation) hostels.
Almost all the pedos were male. Thats well established. Almost all were of a character type and personality that if you didn't know their crimes, you would peg them as gay. Their mannerisms, behaviour, speech, interests - all the hallmarks. Some were openly gay. Some during counselling admitted to homosexual relationships, often with much older men when they were teens or young adults struggling with their sexual identity. Its also true that in prisons, hostels such as i worked in, there were lots of sexual relationships between men who were 'paedophiles'. So the two sexual persuasions are not mutually exclusive either, nor are they necessarily together. But there were far more gays within the client group i worked with, paedophiles, than there were 'straight' men. In fact the majority of paedophiles i worked with were men who were attracted to boys.
These are all uncomfortable trues, self-evident in my working life. If anyone finds that offensive, NOT SORRY, its time to separate your emotional reaction and politically correct impulses with an honest, objective look at factual evidence.
If i were a paedophile - I know what my strategy would be. I would gravitate to the LGBT community where i can always obfuscate who i really am, and can hide behind the shield of political correctness and LGBT victimhood narratives. would also know that there are going to be LOTS of other like minded men in that community who i would end up in contact with - either to form relationships, to colaborate on grooming victims, to swap notes and contacts and 'material'. And yes if i was a sick psychopathic pedo, I'd consider a mutualy beneficial 'gay marriage' with another pedo, so that i could adopt - preferably very young and or foreign born - children. Its the perfect setup. Who would challenge or accuse me in this PC-obsessed world?
Some of you might remember the precedent setting legal case he took out to prevent newspapers reporting a scandal in 2016 - called a 'super-injunction'. In short he had an orgy with at least one other man and his husband, while his tow adopted boys were in the house. The internet was awash with rumours that he was hosting orgies all the time and it was an open secret. The internet has been scrubbed of the details. MEMORY HOLED (to keep in line with the current Orwellian mood).
So whats my point? that YES YES YES it makes total sense for pedos, be they homosexual as well or not, to use gay marriage and then adoption as a front for child abuse. Totally. How widespread this is, who knows, but you would have to be an idiot to not see it logically fits. Does this reflect on all gays, absolutely not. I have met many.
In fact i have a friend whose son is gay and works in LA (myself and friend are UK based). His gay son confided that there is a big pedo problem in the LA gay scene and its well known among that circle, and he worries terribly that if it comes out all gays will be bashed and judged the same.
Good perspective but remember there is another side to the coin... the majority of children molested are not kidnap victims trafficked around the world, but more commonly they are molested by known relatives over extended periods of time... fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins, etc... the vast majority of these men are usually married and heterosexual. The simple fact that 1 in 5 girls are molested vs 1 in 20 boys shows that pedophiles are 4 times more likely to be heterosexual no? https://victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics
You are completely leaving out child sacrifice and human trafficking. Who produced the child that was sold into slavery? Who produced the pedophile? Who produced the child that was sold to be sacrificed? Who sacrifices "chickens" to Molloch? Who put forth a female as a Presidential candidate and supported her even though she was of ill-health and completely corrupted? Don't let women off the hook here. And for heaven's sake...please understand the reason behind the term: "consenting ADULTS"
From the Hampstead case the women teachers and female parents were using dildo's on the boys and girls and also using strap-ons to abuse and sodomize them.
You want me to write a dissertation for you? if you have something to add, add it yourself in the comments. One (long!) post won't be all things to all people - wise up.
This is a discussion forum not the Pulitzer Prize committee
I don't know any LGBT person that has ever heard of this manifesto. The person who wrote it, sounds like a nut.
My brother's gay and he isn't off fucking little kids. He's been in healthy a relationship for close to 20 years and is as horrified as we are by what's been have uncovered.
I'm starting to think that the only way we see will see any justice is for us to start marching on Washington --- in which case we're going to need all the help we can get.
Keep it simple, if you're against fucking little kids, then we're on the same side.
Same with my brother, he just got divorced from someone he had been with for 22 years, and is doing the research alongside of me to get these fuckers caught. Apparently some of what us regular joes have uncovered has been known for a while now within the gay community, at least in my brothers case because of the fact that quite a few guys have been molested by people within positions of power.
Yes I agree with the Bible, I guess I was trying to say that I can't fathom how one human being can actually do this to another. I know the answer is that sin abounds and the love of many will wax cold.
ugh... mods delete please.
Please see rule number 2: "EVERY claim that is made as part of your post needs to be sourced."
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You do realize NAMBLA is a thing right? It is a large gay rights group that gets funds from the UN. It stands for North American Man Boy Love Association. Their motto is "8 is to late." You ought to do further research, there are several of these gay rights groups that are clear fronts for pedophiles.
Pedophilia is a big taboo in the gay community because gay men know many associate them with it. Gay men have sex with boys, straight men have sex with kids, it's worthless to "associate" gay marriage or homosexuality with pedophilia in any way IMO.
Make fun of us?? Did you see the Amazon Tweet today? Or the Progressive Insurance commercial? Or the trailer for the Simpsons where pizza boxes were used as dominoes? Are you aware that the entire MSM is ignoring the murder, torture and rape of children since this broke, and cracking one joke after another at their expense? Please don't tell me you think those forces are going to 'see it our way' if we just stay in our lane and try not to offend. This is war, Eva. This is about getting people moving. And just how many pedophiles wear a proud badge or declare their orientation? NEXT TO ZERO. So your statement ' I never run into pedophiles ' is well... meaningless.
You get it. Its like with the jewish thing and child molesting/sacrifice. People dont want to hear the truth, but both jews and gays admit to pedophilia in their own words
That is pure and utter horse shit. If gay people or Jews have been involved in PG (by the vast size of this there have been) it doesn't have anything to do with evil gay or Jew cabals. Ugh I'm getting sick as shit seeing so much anti Semitism in PG votes.
The only reason you're thinking of JEW conspiracies is because you're bringing other beliefs you have of other conspiracies into this shit. I can't wait until someone comes up with all the kids who died in newtown were actually all Jews captured and sold into child sex slavery.
You're fucking retarded. Wait, that's too mean to retarded people. The guy with downs at my local Publix is awesome.
Because you're too stupid to separate your stupid fucking prejudices from PG you're going to keep us from saving these kids. When the general public sees a bunch of conspiracy faggots screaming about normal retarded conspiracy shit, we lose credibility.
"You're not only holding back these people, you're holding back humanity as a whole, you douche."
You sound rediculous. Gays are not part of an organized cult and do not admit to pedophilia. I don't like the tone of this thread. Reminds me of Alefantis fake protesters in front of CPP calling Alefantis a ferry or pointing out that he is a sick queer. Don't bring that bullshit here. Your screen name is on my radar. Hope this is not a habbit for you. I detest anybody who trys to do damage to this movement. I will assume you just are not an advanced thinker for now.
research it for yourself it clearly is said in many sources. in the case of jews its in their most holy book and hella rabbinical commentaries afterwards ton confirm that yes they meant it. with fags they are also super open about it research it faggot
If we want to really unearth the true source of the problems here we have to be precise. Like performing surgery on the body of humanity... if we want to remove the gallbladder we can't just say "oh its in that stomach area over there, just dive right in" :D
We can't just say. "oh all them jews are taking all the worlds money. GET EM!" or "oh all them gays are taking all our childrens. GET EM!"
are there a higher percentage of Jews within the shadow elite? perhaps. Is that due to inherent biological differences? I would argue no. It has more to do with the timing of world developments and the location of groups as the world coalesced.
Using shadow elite as example... You can perhaps say that Jewish population back in the day had slighly higher percentage of "will to power" compared to other sub groups, but to claim that a shadow elite formed because they were Jewish is incorrect.
Talmud vs Torah jews is the religious split you are generally looking for. However it's like Freemasonry, even if the individual following the Talmud does not know they are doing evil themselves, they are used by the inner evil core of Sabbatean-Frankist worshippers who exploit the movement for evil ends. Anyone who supports Zionism is a tool of Sabbatean-Frankist beliefs which literally seek to bring Satan to the earth. That is the goal of Sabbatai Zevi. Half of Judaism has been twisted by him.
jews have forsaken god over and over and were corrupted with satanism since ancient babylon and jews are the leaders of lgbt, jews are satanic faggots really...who rape children and then murder their victims for satan
It's impossible for that statement to be true. Bet 20 bucks I can find someone that is Jewish and also does NOT go around killing babies in 30 minutes.
Jews make up less than 2% of the US population, yet make up 48% of the list of the country's richest people. This isn't a coincidence, it's an exclusive club.
The vast majority of Jews are just regular people like you or me, but they are massively over-represented among the world elite, and many are the driving forces behind the globalist agenda. It's just easier to say "the Jews" than to constantly clarify in regards to Zionists, globalist Jews, fake Jews etc.
My point (and it's not fact or anything but I think it's true) is that the reason that number is so high isn't necessarily because inherent differences in humanity.
Say for example... at the start of the period in time where monetary control became possible, instead of the subset of humans knows as Jews being located in the area that allowed them to flourish it was an ethnicity called ZIMBABWEANS lol. In this artificial scenario, since the Zimbabweans happened to exist in this particular region during the rise of monetary rule (whatever you want to call it) it is now these Zimbabweans that own a majority of the globes wealth. Would you then conclude that these people were rich due to ethnicity or due to the composite of external factors that created the conditions for them to do so?
You do realize the pedos in comet and the white house are practicing satanists right? You cant really seperate pizzagate from religious stuff because we christians are in a supernatural battle with evil. I pray god opens your eyes. Instead of fighting us, you should be fighting the child raping/sacrificing satanists.
These are the creeps that set off alarms for me. Not only this shit, but DeSantis' position at UN adoption program. It's all right here in front of us.
By definition, a "lifetime victim" wouldn't appeal to pedophiles after like, 18 years maximum. There are plenty of gay people that aren't pedophiles, there are plenty of gay married couple that don't adopt, there are plenty of straight birthparents that abuse their children. Don't broaden a very serious issue that's plaguing our nation to cover everything the Liberals stand for. Sometimes, in rare, fleeting moments, they aren't entirely wrong about things. Gay marriage should be a states' rights issue, and that's coming from me, a bisexual Republican.
That being said, it seems like the issue is the adoption system, child protective services, our wide open border, political elites and their diplomatic immunity, the media coverup, tunnels apparently under DC, and fake non profits stealing children from war-torn nations and natural disasters areas, not gay marriage.
In my opinion, the main attraction of pedophilia is that they have total control over the child. And the whole point of MK-Ultra is to keep that control well into adulthood.
The fastest way for pizzagate to go down the tubes will be for you homophobes to scream, "this is cuz a the gays!" Pizzagate already is slow to gain momentum because it's associated with alt-right, white nationalist, jew-hating, etc. Imagine someone coming here to learn about pizzagate and reading homophobic hatred and urban myths about how gays are boogiemen out to steal your ass virginity or whatever. It's fucking stupid. Goodbye ccp, I don't care. Most people do not have a problem with gay rights. I don't have a problem with people on voat being homophobic and racist. But pizzagate should be about supporting our government being run on pedophilia and our politicians making money on human suffering, or not.
As someone who has worked with and for the lgbt community, I have not known one fucking pedophile. I am as horrified as anyone by this. Pedophilia is not part of being gay, being gay is not the cause of pedophilia.
“The percentage of male homosexuals among convicted child molesters is many times higher than the percentage of male homosexuals in the general population”
waxdino - you negated your so-called argument by this absurd statement: "Pizzagate already is slow to gain momentum because it's associated with alt-right, white nationalist, jew-hating, etc."
It doesn't matter that you and other LBGT supporters abhor the pedos. The pedos are using the LBGT movement to expand, distort, and molest the public's definition of marriage. They see pedo marriage as just 1 more step past LBGT.
I don't think he's saying every faggot ever is a pedophile, you're simplifying his message like a dingbat. He's saying they're using the TGLB movement to mask their activities, which personally I think would be ingenious of them, if true.
Hard to say one way or the other, but you don't have to exhibit homophobia excessively to say "there might be pedophiles hiding among gay communities"...
Ah, well yes, if people are screaming that gays and only gays are to blame, they're being short-sighted and foolish at best, and intentionally manipulating the narrative at worst.
Hahaha dude you are so wrong. Gays don't breed, they infect. Childhood abuse is the most common theme amongst the gay population. Pedophilia is just one step away from sodomy.
Harry Hay, while supporting the pro pedo movement happening in the UK, was rejected by the gay community. Pedos and pedo supporters will be part of any and all groups where they can blend in and target children. Some may even use quotes from religious text to try and divide the people who are united against the normalization of pedophila. Some might espouse outrage and storm out of the subject, with indignation. Internet is full of political trolls that protect the pedo establishment agenda by pretending to be anti gay, rights in order to distract attention from the subject. Then another can chime with "through the baby out with the bathwater!" in order to delegitimize the topic altogether, it could sound a lot like your post or even exactly like your post. Elements of the Republican party, claiming to be professing morality experts have covered up plenty of elite related pedophile rings. Pedos don't have to pretend to be gay in order to adopt children, they can go on an ad site and find kids that are handed over to them from adoptive mom who can no longer deal with the child (there was a case I read recently describing this). Signed over like a used car. CPS wasn't notified.
"As someone who has worked with and for the lgbt community, I have not known one fucking pedophile."
Do you expect pedos to out themselves to you? LMAO!!!
I have ONE gay relative. Guess what? HE IS A PEDOPHILE!! Nobody in my family knew until he LOST HIS JOB for "inappropriate behavior with patients." (He was a psychiatrist!)
this kind of thinking is actually the biggest problem. your vanilla, don't offend anyone type thinking is what causes a lot of problems. hate mangina pussies like you
ha! I don't think so. The biggest problem is not vanilla thinking - it is criminals who think and act like criminals, and they happen to come from all walks of life, but especially the church, the police, the government, the universities, the schools, Umm gee, everywhere there is straight AND gay society in fact.. Period.
You know I love ya Vie, but..... I believe we have exposed a core of the most powerful people in the world doing craven, horrible things to children, who have constructed a vast network to profit off the misery and body parts of human beings, while consolidating absolute power and dominion over the world. JA was at the White House playing ping pong with the President of the United States, for Christ sake! We are not confronting run of the mill sex offenders, these are Satanic social engineers. The push to give equal rights to gays has been accepted by most of America and for good reasons, but there is every reason to believe this blood cult will exploit that to the fullest.
Because, really... who picks on gay people ? A: repressed homosexuals
"The push to give equal rights to gays has been accepted by most of America and for good reasons, but there is every reason to believe this blood cult will exploit that to the fullest." I agree with this - but they would exploit any push, any corner of civil liberties, any tolerance or sense of humanity we have. So if it wasn't gay rights it would be children's rights, or parent's rights, animal rights, or equal rights. Anything.
They are simply exploiters, doesn't matter what the current social issue is. And if gay rights have happened for good reasons, then they need to happen. We can't lose our humanity in the face of inhumanity.
Too bad we can't hash this out over a good red in a real cafe, like the civilized do. Love ya back ; )
"Because, really... who picks on gay people ? A: repressed homosexuals." Ha so true! Hastert was supposed to be especially tough with his gay legislation. Slime.
If that were true, I wouldn't hang out on this site. I am saying that pizzagate should be, "are you offended by baby fucking? Then join us." Not, "unless you're gay, cause you all started it."
Pedos shpuld not be given any leniency just because some are also gay. Gays are less than 3% of the population and make up around 40% of all child predators. There is a very strong correlation between them, even more than blacks and murder. Have you ever wondered why gay men almost exclusively adopt boys and lesbians adopt girls? Have you ever seen a gay pride parade, they have 10 year old boys shaking their asses while adult men crowd around with raging erections. A lot of the time they walk around naked or in BDSM gear while the adopted children walk around and have to see this. I ask one thing of you, why should gay pedophiles be treated any different than the straight ones. The truth fears no investigation. Since almost half of all child predators are gay, and NAMBLA is a thing, we have to go against some of the pedo gays as well eventually. Don't shy away from the truth just because it is not PC, you knew what you were getting yourself into when you joined this investigation.
Ha !!!!! You are participating in EXACTLY what I am identifying. Thank you for a clear demonstration of how PEDOPHILES plan to HIDE BEHIND THE LBGT MOVEMENT, just like the anti-gay false flag protest outside Comet on election night. How did those idiots come to the conclusion that Comet/PG was about homosexuals? They didn't. They were handed a script and some made to order protest signs 'GOD HATES FAGS!' It was a sympathy play for Alefantis and his gang of child rapists and a blatant attempt to hijack the narrative. And here you are, accusing me of being a homophobe, right on cue. I have ZERO problem with gays. I have gay friends, relatives and co-workers and I do not feel threatened in the least.
( btw.... Alefantis and Scott Cummings are pedophiles hiding behind the LBGT movement, in case you missed it ) #hotard #chickenlover #killroom
Religion mostly, however that topic has been talked about a lot. NAMBLA and other pedo groups hiding behind gay rights has not been talked about very much.
It's of concern for "adoptions" isn't it. Most pedophiles (that we know of) are men, though we probably need to broaden the definition. Now that two men can legally marry they can legally adopt children. What if the two men are pedophiles who are only together to have easy access to children to create sex slaves? That needs to be investigated and thwarted if possible. At the same time, a different sex married couple could do the same thing, for whatever reason. That needs to be looked at too. Adoption agencies really need to vet the parents better. I have heard that there are tests that show people suggestive photography and measure the pupils of their eyes. If they narrow, they are stimulated. I think a test like that could expose a pedophile or prevent the procurement of a sex slave for a couple where one party is disinterested in a sexual relationship. In many ways, this pizza gate scandal could help heal the nation.
Yep... connect the corrupt CPS and HHS and any number of shady adoption agencies and you have an infrastructure and a legal mandate. It's happening right now.
While I don't doubt this is happening, it shouldn't be used to attack same sex marriage.
Additionally, this post fails rule 2.
KNOW THIS>> don't get shitty when commenter's contribute to your post with other information.
Don't cry about having your thread hijacked, especially when is a poor post such as this one.
The "bigots" pretty much predicted Pizzagate decades ago. And what else do you expect when you tell a whole generation that they are not only allowed but required to go after sexual gratification.
Cases like Dahmer did not exist before the 1960s. That proves that they indeed were not "born that way" but were products of their time.
I'm not attacking gay marriage, I am making people aware of the subterfuge occurring within the movement. How can you not see that is EXACTLY what is happening with Comet Ping Pong and Pizzagate? Did you see the FAKE anti-gay protest outside of Comet last month? They know exactly what the fuck they are doing and unsophisticated people just like you fall right in line.
Excuse me, Pedophiles are hiding behind the Catholic Church, CPS, the State Department, the CIA, Christian Youth Groups, the Senate, the House of Representatives...who gives a whip about the LBGT Movement at this juncture. However, it is possible that two same-sex pedophiles can now get married and adopt children for nefarious purposes. That might need watching...but there are a lot of sicker people to deal with that are in hiding in greater numbers with greater powers than the LGBT movement.
As I'm saying above, none of these criminal activities can go on without the protection of a corrupted government.
The State Dept., Officials in government, the Military (which Detective Rothstein has pointed out is too rarely not connected to this trafficking - certainly the RCC which is worldwide and mentioned as involved in many of the international scandals and investigations. And, of course, our Congress and our intelligence services. And every branch of military has an intelligence service. And, many of the secret organizations which undermine our attempt at democracy.
And I agree with you here --
However, it is possible that two same-sex pedophiles can now get married and adopt children for nefarious purposes. That might need watching...but there are a lot of sicker people to deal with that are in hiding in greater numbers with greater powers than the LGBT movement. >
Another complicating factor is that while pedophiles may be only 4% of the population, they can be created by new pedophile activity and by MKULTRA programs of torture and sexual abuse for government use.
Don't hijack my thread... Predators are undermining the legitimate elements of the LBGT movement and putting gains at risk.You think I am not aware of your laundry list of complicit organizations and agencies? And this is different, you know why? Because, through legalized adoption it gives them access to VERY YOUNG OR INFANT victims who will be far easier to condition and fragment, creating millions of future pedophiles in a generation or two. It's institutionalizing and codifying access, which is not written into any of the charters of the entities or 3 letter agencies that may harbor a certain number of pedophiles.
Yeah, don't hijack this. See wikileaks UN NAMBLA. They have got in already legally under the LGBT group. THIS IS IMPORTANT because they are psyop-ing everyone!
That's what comments are for...aren't they? How can you speak of the LBGT movement being undermined when all the institutions I mentioned that have actual power over Americans are undermined. Can you stop being so selfish! I mean, even with legitimate comments on your message board. Come on!
You mean all the CIA, the Governors, the Senators and the Congressmen involved with pedophilia or its cover-up are gay? The impoverished mother pimping out her child is gay? The mother handing her child over to a corrupt CPS agent is gay? Is that the problem here?
yes they are all satanic faggots that rape and kill children for satan. this is pizzagatae...and they all work for jews and the vatican who are the whore of babylon and synogogue of satan...
Now, let's reign it in with the facts. "All" is a word only the "elite" use. God is not in the word "all" or "legion". "I Am" and "individual" definitely is implied.
It's enslavement to raise a child to be a specific sex slave or life partner of anyone or any one group. In a world where breasts are injected with silicone to attract grown males one can safely say that "natural" is not the norm any longer. Or maybe they just weren't weaned properly? Were they? "Tickle-tickle little nursing baby boy", that too would be pedophilia. That shouldn't be understandable either.
You're confusing the issue. I hope not on purpose, for I included plastic and silicone in my explanation as well. Don't miss that point.
I'm saying not weaning a boy child properly or leaving a child "over-stimulated" during the nursing and/or weaning process IS pedophilia, and it leads to a socially acceptable form of enslavement. No one know what goes on under the blankie but the mother and the infant( if he can grasp it)...but we sure do have an absolutely astonishing amount of adult males being overstimulated by the sight of breasts.
This overstimulation at the sight of the female breast translating into adulthood is found absolutely no where in nature yet it is a societally acceptable fetish encouraged by females even in plastic or silicone form. This fetish comes from somewhere, doesn't it? Who else could commit the pedophilia that made this fetish linger into adulthood. And yes, it is abuse and pedophilia if it is sexual in nature with a desired infantilism to be manifested into the adulthood of the innocent on which the pedophilia was performed.
Okay I agree that breasts become a fetish in our society, however it seems to me that it has to do with oversexualizing them through media and modern attitudes.
I agree SweetCarolyn,, and I think you'll agree with me that vampires feed off of wounds. And I believe that the greatest wounds are planted in childhood, either intentionally or unintentionally. I must admit I overheard some women talking in the lounge at work who admitted to encouraging some things about nursing to make sure her son grew up "straight". I don't know much about breastfeeding but over time drew this connection. A group in a lounge is not a thorough study, however I connected the dots and came to disapprove. I call what they spoke of "pedophilia".
Oh like the fathers that took their sons to have sex with prostitutes to "keep them from being gay"? That's just plain WRONG! I breastfed my children and I know that there was NOTHING sexual about it!
Not every breast feeder is a pedophile. Nor every father. Nor every homosexual. But every pedophile is harmful. There are a lot of things our parents did that were wrong, but I know my parents did the best they could with what they had to work with...and I have sympathy for all these children that were sold or pimped out by their parents...knowingly or unknowingly. How such kids turn out remains to be seen, but they usually commit the same mistakes. It's time for government to find out why this primitivism continues and move to correct the matter. It's time we look at this issue with new eyes. And be kinder and more watchful with newly educated eyes. Nice talking with you, Sweet Carolyn. No matter what happens with this issue or how we disagree, I believe you to be a concerned and a good person at heart.
Well thank you very much Sponiatowski I desire very much that ALL pedophiles no matter WHO they are be arrested and that children to be protected. Children are innocent victims and don't deserve such horrible treatment!
This. Or by covering up the natural function of tits (feeding infants) When you grow up in a society where people are shamed or outright forbidden from feeding their baby in public, it's no wonder people think the only thing tits are good for is pitching a tent.
Dauphin ago
https://victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics Statistics don't lie... girls are MUCH more likely to be molested than boys... 1 in 5 versus 1 in 20. Majority (75%) of pedos are heterosexual. But you are correct in that the pedos that ARE gay do tend to be the faces of the gay movement etc. Hollywood as well. Like ALL things infiltrate they operate at the top.
Votescam ago
No -- unless you want to say that heterosexual males attracted to girls who are under 16 and technically minors -- that all of those guys are pedophiles. All you need is an age difference of 5 years and poof -- you're a pedophile. I'm not condoning these relationships at any rate -- it seems to me the guys are usually immature and unable to deal with a female their own age. These relationships often result in pregnancies because they guys don't know how to protect themselves or the girls.
Keep in mind that in order for the Catholic Church to continue on abusing women and children and their members, they need to hide the reality that it is not homosexual priests who are the pedophiles sexually abusing children. The RCC has over 1,000 years and more preached vile propaganda against gays from their altars -- calling homosexuality an "abomination." In fact, they convinced parents of these children to abandon their own children - to throw them out of their homes. Thankfully, those days are over and families are no longer submissive to the preachings of the RCC. We also know that perhaps 1,000 years ago the RCC was performing gay marriages.
VieBleu ago
I'd like a nice closet for all the intolerant and misinformed bigots to hang out in, forever.
B_dog ago
After reading this stuff for months, what kinds of people and institutions have NOT been found to be "hiding behind" some movement to conceal SRA and child trafficking?
It's a much shorter list that way. Crimes have to be punished case-by-case based on evidence. Demonizing whole groups is not investigation.
remedy4reality ago
I'm demonizing an entire group >> PEDO'S AND CHILD RAPISTS Your attempt to obfuscate that fact with your weak strawman argument is noted. This will not be a 'case by case' endeavor. This is about destroying the worldwide network of human trafficking and systematic raping and murdering of children.
B_dog ago
Anything done legally is case-by-case based on evidence. That's simply a statement of fact. But sure, you destroy those networks without understanding how that could happen in reality. Good luck.
cky_stew ago
Pasting some crazy manifesto from the 80s about sodomising then saying:
comes across to me as gay bashing a little. Whats your source on gays "living by" this manifesto?
Gothamgirl ago
I wonder what the deal is with Rosie O'Donnell she is pretty ticked. http://imgur.com/oeOY4qj http://imgur.com/1clnBLq She has a children's foundation as well. http://www.idealist.org/view/nonprofit/F6kZkPPSFnxd/ They received lots of money from Washington. However when Trump took office the website shut down for maintenance. http://www.forallkids.org/
I read somewhere she has a connection to Malawi. Madonna's connection to Malawi is just one huge financial scam, amongest other things.
remedy4reality ago
The entire refugee adoption system is rigged with subsidies and incentives for corruption.
theHubrisOfMan ago
Man touches boy, boy learns that's what affection is, grows up and identifies as gay, everyone celebrates, thinks this is what love looks like, becomes a man, man touches boy, etc etc etc
Yates ago
And Disney is making some characters in Beauty and the Beast gay FFS.
PAY OFF. GAY MOMENT.
duerheltdum ago
This post violates rules 1 and 2. Oh, but it slanders all gay people so let's leave it up!
LeChevalBlanc ago
Facts are not anti-gay : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
"Michael Hanson, a gay student living in Edinburgh, who became the group's first chairman. Although Hansen did not identify as a paedophile, his sexual relationship with a 15-year-old (who he thought was 16) and the disparate age of consent laws for heterosexual and homosexual activity made Hansen sympathise with paedophile advocacy.[a][5]
Since the majority of enquiries were from England, in 1975 PIE relocated to London, where 23-year-old Keith Hose became chairman.[4] The group's stated aim was "to alleviate [the] suffering of many adults and children" by campaigning to abolish the age of consent thus legalising sex between adults and children.[6][7] During the early days of its activism, Tom O'Carroll stated that only a small a small group of people were "in the know" about groups such as PIE, namely "readers of gay newspapers and magazines, and others in gay circles who had heard by word of mouth".[5]
The Paedophile Action for Liberation (also known as Paedophile Awareness and Liberation) had developed as a breakaway group from South London Gay Liberation Front.[8] "
Clear link in France too with G.R.E.D. group advocating pedomania in the early 80's:
Groupe de Recherche pour une Enfance Différente (GRED) (France) 1979-1987. The group published the bulletin Le Petit Gredin https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Le_Petit_Gredin
It took debates within the gay community to clearly distance themselves from them.
finska ago
This thread reminded me of a horrific case in Australia a few years ago. http://www.ibtimes.com.au/gay-paedophile-couple-sexually-abused-their-adopted-son-1334488
DeathToMasons ago
Downvote.
sleepingbeautycan ago
Okay. Was there a specific reason you wanted me to downvoat you?
DeathToMasons ago
This is the second thread that I have seen that is attempting to isolate gay or other non straights and focus on their role in child exploitation. Wrong focus IMO, because you can say all the same thing about straights, or christian pedos, or atheist pedos etc etc. The need to link gay to pedo is a trap. I have to wonder if this is intentional, or just honest musings you are vocalising. Either way, it should be rejected.
sleepingbeautycan ago
If you read above that is not what he is trying to say. He is saying that pedos are hiding among gay men. They are like Alefantis and really are not that interested in men, only kids, but they use their boyfriends/husbands kind of like a beard.
littlemrsMAGA ago
This is why Putin gets so much hate. He stopped letting Russian children get adopted out to the United States.
l23r ago
Wasn't that in part due to "parents" sending their kids back or abandoning them after they acted out due to trauma and abuse caused by being ploped in a completely foreign place? There was a high profile case that was on Dr Phil with the "hot sauce mom". She had her 13 year old daughter videotape her while she forced the little boy to stand in the shower, then drink hot sauce and hold it in his mouth while she screamed at him.
druhill007 ago
Ah i see. That's interesting about the notion of superiority. Can't say I'm a common news site browser. Tried my best to avoid politics but can't look away after discovering this evillol
Silencio ago
Very NSFW but check out the "mommys girl" videos on youporn, they use these exact plots. Lesbians adopting a foster kid and making them do sex to be good girls or else they will be punished or sent back to foster care. More mainstream porn sites didnt used to have this level of pedo-implying filth, it's sickening how they depict family/adoption scenarios.
JesusRules ago
How true, how sad.. There is still a chance to bring the Baal worshipers in the US gov. to light. I'm an optimist!
Orange_Circle ago
Bingo.
Votescam ago
There is much to be feared from a PEDOPHILE Manifesto -- because our pedophiles are males, but they are HETEROSEXUAL males (see my post above) .....
Heterosexuals are 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child than a homosexual.
But what you posted is alleged to be a "gay" manifesto and it's difficult to imagine that it speaks for ALL of the gay community. How many homosexuals actually signed on to it? Or is it more likely an attempt at a smear on the gay community?
Obviously intended to create fear . . . But pedophiles don't just sodomize your sons, they sodomize your daughters, as well. They sexually abuse both sexes. And they sometimes murder these kidnapped children, as well. Infants in their own homes, can be sexually abused by their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, cousins -- and friends of the family and ALL of that was related to Sigmund Freud by his young male and female patients. Sigmund Freud (who is believed to have been a pedophile himself) betrayed his patients in the Oedipus Complex which makes the outrageous suggestion that it is infants, toddlers and young children who are the sexual aggressors against adult males in their families.
Mothers have to be more aware of protecting their children from heterosexual males who come in contact with them. Females have to be educated as to who pedophiles are and they have to educate their children.
But we have to also ensure that children of school age are properly educated in our elementary and secondary schools to protect themselves from sexual abusers. "Good touch/bad touch" is one helpful way to do it. We have to stop letting pedophiles move from one school to another when caught and we have to ensure that the prison sentences are long enough to keep pedophile rings from reforming.
We have seen the damage done to young males in the Sandusky scandal where it seems these males had only total TRUST in their coaches and athletic directors. WHY should they have been left so ignorant? Same with child actors.
Ignorance only benefits pedophiles and their scheming. By the time that a student gets to college and dormitory life, certainly they should have been made aware of the potential for pedophiles to cross their paths. If not -- then whatever happens is the fault of all of society.
Seminaries are something we all know about -- evidently they are notorious places for pedophile activity and especially YOUNG boys entering seminaries -- as young as 14 years of age/? -- should be warned and told what to do if they encounter these problems.
Movie bathrooms? This can be a problem if force is being used, but can also be avoided if males do what women do -- "take a friend along to rest rooms."
We have seen some of the problems with pedophiles in Congress and we need to further investigate all of the cases and the perpetrators. It is doubtful that Congressional leaders weren't aware of these criminal activities, or that they themselves may not be involved in them.
The Military is a great problem as related by Kay Griggs/YouTube. There is sexual abuse of every kind and physical force of every kind. There is pressure on wives to enter into some of these activities. And all of it is kept in play by threats to lives of soldiers and spouses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMDy8HCo5iw&t=4s
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0LEV1gzI7ZYZkIAIY9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyMTZucGZyBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjMwNjBfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=kay+griggs+death+in+car+accident&fr=yfp-t-s#id=2&vid=de090da46ca6aa0e84f8c6409ead44e0&action=view
We have less concerns where young men and women are over the age of consent -- PROVIDED that they have been educated as to the pedophile problem. And what to do about it if they encounter it.
Meanwhile -- as we see from the research and investigations of going on here, the LOGO's used by pedophiles have been exposed and many of them have had to be removed from store fronts and from advertising. Citizens will be looking to identify pedophile organizations and will be watching for these LOGO's. That will hamper efforts by pedophiles to attract other pedophiles and introduce them to criminal activities.
Trafficking of children also requires institutions -- often run by churches -- and places to hide children. It involves the necessary to be able to communicate (if not advertise) the availability of children. We have to demand that kidnappings of children be immediately and extensively investigated.
And we have to ensure that everyone in our government is aware that citizens consider the pedophile problem to be of major concern -- the kidnapping of children to be a major concern -- and that we expect aggressive investigation of these cases. And of trafficking itself.
VieBleu ago
well done.
SecureYourSeats ago
the only way you can justify heterosexuals as having higher rape stats, is to use the false idea that a man who rapes a boy is somehow heterosexual even though he found his gratification in a same sex context.
NeedPolyGF ago
The Gay Manifesto doesn't seem to be pedophilia exactly. To sodomize your sons probably meant after age 18 and after successful seduction, i.e. consensual sex.
NeedPolyGF ago
Well, that figures, even though I never thought or heard of it before. Anyone who wants to get married, or adopt kids, whether gay or straight, should have to take an oath not to engage in pedophilia or any other abuses.
NotTooLate ago
It's been going on forever within the elites. It is them that is using the movement to normailize and include it. That's not making judgement on normal people with souls.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/06/rothschild-and-gay-cambridge-apostles.html
NotTooLate ago
see WIKILEAKS FOR MORE PROOF. This is the case
NotTooLate ago
Get a load of this.
snippet of 2009 cable where certifications are legally required
Background
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE120274_a.html
roundhouse1776 ago
Lol, I think you forgot to switch accounts before you replied to yourself. Shill alert, DEFCON 1.
Orange_Circle ago
Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a02rStatistcs.html
Orange_Circle ago
They are not really hiding behind it. They have been part and parcel of it from the beginning.
See "Harry Hayes and NAMBLA walks with me."
The media had hide these facts from you, but NAMBLA is a very important and powerful engine behind LBGT.
NotTooLate ago
Exactly. It's all over wikileaks.
PGzRidiculouslyDumb ago
The list of offensive and insane claims that pizzagaters can make is never ending.
NotTooLate ago
Your comment is made out of ignorance. Still, unacceptable.
remedy4reality ago
What's offensive you raping infants, Alefantis. #hotard
PGzRidiculouslyDumb ago
Lol, you bought into that ridiculous hotard argument I see.
remedy4reality ago
I like how Pegasus was designed. Scott did a great job and those sliding platforms offer a choice view of the table below.
PGzRidiculouslyDumb ago
Why are you calling me Alefantis you nutjob?
remedy4reality ago
Why are you obsessed with this site and constantly opening new accounts, Alefantis ?
PGzRidiculouslyDumb ago
Because pizzagate is offensively irrational. Why are you calling me Alefantis, you conspiratard nutcase?
Xpol ago
It's funny that people believe that pizzagate will go down the drain if people start making homophobic statements.
So pick what you want? To be PC and investigate pizzagate or be non pc and have pizzagate go down the drain.
Can't you see that eventually the left if going to claim pedo rights and then you can't be PC and talk about pizzagate.
The logical conclusion of gay rights was that pedophiles will try to get their rights , and try to get children permission to consent.
I've been saying this for years. And I was right.
How many people identified with pizzagate so far have their hanfs involved with the LGBT community or are themselves gay.
Orange_Circle ago
All of them.
druhill007 ago
No worries. I definitely gotta do more research there as well
sponiatowski ago
What we are facing is what the Catholic Church was supposed to prevent and they seem to be the instigators and abettors of the problem. Christianity was founded by the Catholic Church, and we have faced Inquisitions and Holocausts under their leadership. There is wisdom in old books, but crucifying the innocent for the sinner is not wise and is in fact evil.
druhill007 ago
whoah.. easy tiger. there's definitely a separation that needs to be made here..... Not disputing the fact that a manifesto of this nature exists... but to assume that everyone with a homosexual brain lives by some twisted creed is a terrible, terrible assumption. My dad has a gay twin... dad = not gay, twin = gay. The point here being that most people with brains wired to be attracted to the same sex did not choose such an existence. Plenty of studies done and all that good stuff. The reason people would follow such a twisted manifesto is not due to their hardwired preferences.... planning to negatively impact and control other humans is not the same domain as hardwired sexual attraction.
Votescam ago
Homosexuals are NOT our sexual abusers of children so don't quite get this ... Males are our sexual abusers of children but they are heterosexual males, as studies show. Heterosexual males are 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child than a homosexual male. It is the Catholic Church which has tried to float the idea that their priest sexual abusers of children are homosexuals and that their pedophile problem in the RCC is due to homosexuals. This is a lie.
Here's the some details on the study --
CIA's MKULTRA has further complicated the problem of pedophiles by using torture and sexual abuse to create "disassociation" or multiple personalities which can be programmed. The victim often has no idea what they are doing in life as other of those personalities. These new personalities can be given photographic memories, trained as homosexual prostitutes, and have also been used as drug runners and for blackmail/espionage -- spying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
Americans have also to begin to understand that drug trafficking is more profitable than our MIC -- !! And that -- just like child trafficking and organ trafficking and organized crime -- it has to be protected by corrupted individuals in our government. And, certainly our military is involved in all of this trafficking.
Orange_Circle ago
https://rethinkingtheology.com/2012/10/22/links-between-homosexuality-and-pedophilia/
Votescam ago
That's a religiously based website which is, of course, anxious to link homosexuals to pedophile activity which is untrue according to the study I've posted above. And, also untrue if you understand what MKULTRA was doing in programming males kidnapped to serve government purposes. When "affairs" no longer worked - and when homosexuality no longer worked, CIA turned to blackmailing pedophiles they had moved into government.
Unfortunately one of the worst sources for telling the truth about homosexuals is "male-supremacist religion" which all along has tried to set a heterosexuality as a "norm" for all societies. But it's a lie. I can tell you that even back in the AIDS era, in Brazil ... even doctors there were amazed to find that so many males in their society also loved other males. Approximately 30% of them! And they came to realize this because so many heterosexual females were coming down with AIDS, though they didn't use drugs and they hadn't had sex with other than their partners/or other heterosexual males. 30% of males are obviously either bi-sexual or hiding the fact that they have sex with other males.
And here's another story about the reliability of homosexuals in caring for children . . . In older times in Hawaii before the coming of the "white" man to screw things up, homosexuals were held in honor and high esteem in Hawaiian society because of their care for orphaned children.
Orange_Circle ago
The homosexual will always ascend to the lowest levels of perversions when given free reign.
WARNING: Photos are blurred, but still extremely graphic. http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_blurred/
studio24investigator ago
Agreed, but there are some good LGBT people, Milo for example.
remedy4reality ago
Read my assessment of Milo and just who I think he actually is.. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1661797
featheredmasks ago
Why would they make it harder on themselves to say they're gay etc when they could just team up as husband/wife boylovers/girllovers teams and adopt low key?
sleepingbeautycan ago
If there are mostly men pedophiles then they run out of women. So they got creative.
sponiatowski ago
I'm saying that there is nothing in the Bible to help us with this problem at this time. It seems to be an instruction manual on the good that can come by crucifying the innocent. I mean, even God let his only begotten Son be tortured and murdered for the sake of the sinners. It's an inappropriate example to set....and to use to define the problems of today.
palmitespo910 ago
I have never heard of this gay manifesto
l23r ago
I'm queer and I've never heard of it...
VieBleu ago
I stayed out of the argument this time but know, that this is a faction of idiots and does not represent most people here. There are shills that would put this up there in an attempt tp discredit, and I think that is the majority of upvoats. And then there are just always some fundy haters, can't escape them and their dogma anywhere.
palmitespo910 ago
same
VieBleu ago
This is a faction of idiots and does not represent most people here. There are shills that would put this up there in an attempt tp discredit, and I think that is the majority of upvoats. And then there are just always some fundy haters, can't escape them and their dogma anywhere.
DeathToMasons ago
As if because somebody pens a gay manifesto, that gays are a group that has such a bible and an agenda. Bad bad thread that is starting a bunch of bullshit. Big downvote.
sponiatowski ago
Blah blah blah...and not a word against child sacrifice and pedophilia in that New Testament of yours . Big help!.
littlemrsMAGA ago
Not true. "You shall not commit murder" is repeated in the NT, in some cases with Jesus literally quoting the OT. Last I checked, child sacrifice is definitely murder, and God specifically condemns child sacrifice in the OT too. It doesn't matter if it wasn't said again in the NT, because the OT and the NT go together. Secondly, pedophiles molesting children definitely falls under "sexual immorality", which is condemned numerous times in the NT.
Nobody with any amount of honesty could read all of the various condemnations of murder and sexual immorality in both the OT and NT, and then basically go tell other people that pedophilia and child sacrifice are totally fine according to the Bible. Also, just because something was only spelled out explicitly in the OT, does not mean it doesn't apply in the NT. You would know that if you understood how the OT and NT work together. You think you do, but you don't. But seriously, get real. Just the simple commandment "You shall love your neighbor as yourself" alone makes it plain that molesting and sacrificing children is wrong. Is it loving to molest and sacrifice the neighbor kid next door? I mean hello, obviously not.
Leviticus 18:6 'None of you shall approach any blood relative of his to uncover nakedness; I am the Lord .
Leviticus 18:10 (You shall not uncover) 'The nakedness of your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for their nakedness is yours.
Leviticus 18:21 'You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord.
Leviticus 20:2-5 'Any man from the sons of Israel or from the aliens sojourning in Israel who gives any of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. 3 'I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name. 4 'If the people of the land, however, should ever disregard that man when he gives any of his offspring to Molech, so as not to put him to death, 5 then I Myself will set My face against that man and against his family, and I will cut off from among their people both him and all those who play the harlot after him, by playing the harlot after Molech.
2 Kings 21:6 And he burned his son as an offering and used fortune-telling and omens and dealt with mediums and with necromancers. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.
Jeremiah 32:35 They built the high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
So, God forbids incest of blood relatives (duh, children can be your blood relatives), and you're telling me it's reasonable to think God is okay with molesting non-blood relative children? God forbids child sacrifice numerous times, and you're telling me you think it's suddenly allowed in the NT?
sponiatowski ago
"Sexual Immorality" has been very open to interpretation the past two thousand years. When did I say that God is okay with anything or even needs to be a reference point here? I'm saying that the Bible will not help us because it only teaches what is wrong, not how to rectify the wrong. Now, specifically, in the Bible, where does it tell the nation how to smoke the pedophiles out of their holes and what to do with them? It's not there. I'm not saying that the Bible doesn't "condemn" or "condone" (that's all it does, in my opinion) I'm saying that it doesn't teach us the signs of what is being done in secrecy and how to stop it.
sponiatowski ago
If a female said any of the above, would you consider it okay? 180 degrees of wrong is still wrong. Rape is rape and wrong is wrong. Now, why do all those rape, anti-stalking and molestation laws apply only to females? Why are they considered "women's issues" by..."women". Are the ladies setting this all up to pimp you out?
doubleherpes ago
Gay pedophiles adopt kids, straight pedophiles just breed their own.
Gay people don't have a monopoly on pedophilia or incest.
SmilingWide ago
So all we have to do is stop adoption by gay parents and we'll eliminate half the pedophilia?
Great idea!
doubleherpes ago
And stop straight people from breeding new kids and that will take care of the other half!
Why do you want to be mean to gay non-pedophiles? You don't know anybody who is cool and also happens to be gay?
SmilingWide ago
I have nothing against gay non-pedophiles, but I also don't think they should be allowed to adopt. If you want to curse Nature, then accept the curse.
doubleherpes ago
Did you choose to be straight, or was it a gut instinct? Are you equally attracted to men and women, and it was just a choice on your part? Should straight people without biological children also be barred from adoption, since they "cursed nature"?
And all those orphans with no parents get cursed too by keeping them alone, with no parents to help them with homework.
SmilingWide ago
The pedos are trying to use "bathroom rights" to normalize the intermingling of the sexes in traditionally private areas so that pedos have easier access to children.
l23r ago
How is a sign on a door with a pink circle or a drawing of someone with a triangle bottom going to stop a dude from going in there to play grabby-grabby?
Parts of Massachusetts have allowed trans people to use the washroom they feel most comfortable with since 1997. They have had zero cases related to a trans woman going into the womens washroom to harass other women. Other states that have changed their washroom policies also have no reported cases. You know what is reported though? Cases of trans women getting beaten for being in the "wrong bathroom" often times when they are in the MALE bathroom.
SmilingWide ago
We just had a guy go into the women's bathroom and taking pictures over the stall with his cell phone... You don't get it. This shit is bad enough as it is. The last thing we need to do is try to normalize men being allowed in the women's bathroom.
sleepingbeautycan ago
How is a sign on a door with a pink circle or a drawing of someone with a triangle bottom going to stop a dude from going in there to play grabby-grabby?
Because most washrooms are stalls. A man would stick out like a sore thumb in a women's bathroom. So while he is in there if a woman walks in the gig is up. But if he could claim Trans well I guess he could play that card.
cakeoflightylight ago
Surrogacy is illegal in many countries and states because it is considered selling children. Another avenue for pedos to get kids.
JeremiahSinclair ago
Sort of a cop-out answer, as ideally, a thread should provide enough information and references for its overall thesis to be clearly explained. I.e., "research it all yourself" sort of defeats the primary purpose of starting a thread in the first place.
cultivated_ignorance ago
A thread doesn't have to answer all of the questions it poses - a thread can simply ask questions, too. People can also use this forum to share their opinions.
Think of the gay people you know and ask yourself if this manifesto would seem agreeable to them. Give it to your homosexual friends and ask them if they think the manifesto reflects how they feel. Until we know the facts as to how many people in the gay community agree with this, we'll just have to share opinions on the matter.
I think a lot of homosexuals I have met are very political and some are, to some degree, militant. I think they might agree with this manifesto. What do other people think?
JeremiahSinclair ago
You're right, it doesn't have to answer questions it poses. Always nice when it does though!
There are, of course, militant gay people, but of the many gay people I know, all would be utterly disgusted by this. Maybe other people hang with crazier gays than I do though.
RedGreenAlliance ago
I posted this separately as it was too big for a comment and might get lost within your post:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1684527
Controversial but much needed post. I urge sensitivity but also honest reflection.
There is an undeniable link between homosexuality and paedophilia. We might hate it, we might feel uncomfortable admitting it, but it is there and its undeniable. But it is also true that it does not reflect on ALL gays, not by any stretch.
These two facts are not mutually exclusive and can both be true.
Let me tell you my experience as a Social Worker who worked in child protection, childrens homes, mental health units and sex offenders (probation) hostels.
Almost all the pedos were male. Thats well established. Almost all were of a character type and personality that if you didn't know their crimes, you would peg them as gay. Their mannerisms, behaviour, speech, interests - all the hallmarks. Some were openly gay. Some during counselling admitted to homosexual relationships, often with much older men when they were teens or young adults struggling with their sexual identity. Its also true that in prisons, hostels such as i worked in, there were lots of sexual relationships between men who were 'paedophiles'. So the two sexual persuasions are not mutually exclusive either, nor are they necessarily together. But there were far more gays within the client group i worked with, paedophiles, than there were 'straight' men. In fact the majority of paedophiles i worked with were men who were attracted to boys.
These are all uncomfortable trues, self-evident in my working life. If anyone finds that offensive, NOT SORRY, its time to separate your emotional reaction and politically correct impulses with an honest, objective look at factual evidence.
If i were a paedophile - I know what my strategy would be. I would gravitate to the LGBT community where i can always obfuscate who i really am, and can hide behind the shield of political correctness and LGBT victimhood narratives. would also know that there are going to be LOTS of other like minded men in that community who i would end up in contact with - either to form relationships, to colaborate on grooming victims, to swap notes and contacts and 'material'. And yes if i was a sick psychopathic pedo, I'd consider a mutualy beneficial 'gay marriage' with another pedo, so that i could adopt - preferably very young and or foreign born - children. Its the perfect setup. Who would challenge or accuse me in this PC-obsessed world?
Here's looking at you Elton John - who is in a gay marriage and adopted two SONS. and also has 10 GOD CHILDREN, most of them boys
He had paedophilic art seized by the UK police in 2007
He was accused of a proclivity for young rent boys in 1989, including accusations he diddled a 10 year old boy and sued Rupert Murdoch
In 2014 this article summarised a number of pedo related suspicions
Some of you might remember the precedent setting legal case he took out to prevent newspapers reporting a scandal in 2016 - called a 'super-injunction'. In short he had an orgy with at least one other man and his husband, while his tow adopted boys were in the house. The internet was awash with rumours that he was hosting orgies all the time and it was an open secret. The internet has been scrubbed of the details. MEMORY HOLED (to keep in line with the current Orwellian mood).
So whats my point? that YES YES YES it makes total sense for pedos, be they homosexual as well or not, to use gay marriage and then adoption as a front for child abuse. Totally. How widespread this is, who knows, but you would have to be an idiot to not see it logically fits. Does this reflect on all gays, absolutely not. I have met many.
In fact i have a friend whose son is gay and works in LA (myself and friend are UK based). His gay son confided that there is a big pedo problem in the LA gay scene and its well known among that circle, and he worries terribly that if it comes out all gays will be bashed and judged the same.
Dauphin ago
Good perspective but remember there is another side to the coin... the majority of children molested are not kidnap victims trafficked around the world, but more commonly they are molested by known relatives over extended periods of time... fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins, etc... the vast majority of these men are usually married and heterosexual. The simple fact that 1 in 5 girls are molested vs 1 in 20 boys shows that pedophiles are 4 times more likely to be heterosexual no? https://victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics
8pinkstars ago
Excellent post with great perspectives, thank you!
sponiatowski ago
You are completely leaving out child sacrifice and human trafficking. Who produced the child that was sold into slavery? Who produced the pedophile? Who produced the child that was sold to be sacrificed? Who sacrifices "chickens" to Molloch? Who put forth a female as a Presidential candidate and supported her even though she was of ill-health and completely corrupted? Don't let women off the hook here. And for heaven's sake...please understand the reason behind the term: "consenting ADULTS"
redditsuckz ago
From the Hampstead case the women teachers and female parents were using dildo's on the boys and girls and also using strap-ons to abuse and sodomize them.
sponiatowski ago
Thank you for being intelligent enough to realize the problem is with the innocence and age of the victim and not the biological sex.
RedGreenAlliance ago
You want me to write a dissertation for you? if you have something to add, add it yourself in the comments. One (long!) post won't be all things to all people - wise up.
This is a discussion forum not the Pulitzer Prize committee
sponiatowski ago
It's a discussion column for Pizza gate which is pedophilia. It doesn't matter where they hide, just know that they are hidden.
remedy4reality ago
Excellent post.
listentoreason2017 ago
I'm fine here thanks. I'll stick to conspiracies not founded on your feefees and a document from the 80's.
algernon4peace ago
I don't know any LGBT person that has ever heard of this manifesto. The person who wrote it, sounds like a nut.
My brother's gay and he isn't off fucking little kids. He's been in healthy a relationship for close to 20 years and is as horrified as we are by what's been have uncovered.
I'm starting to think that the only way we see will see any justice is for us to start marching on Washington --- in which case we're going to need all the help we can get.
Keep it simple, if you're against fucking little kids, then we're on the same side.
shortymcbossypants ago
Same with my brother, he just got divorced from someone he had been with for 22 years, and is doing the research alongside of me to get these fuckers caught. Apparently some of what us regular joes have uncovered has been known for a while now within the gay community, at least in my brothers case because of the fact that quite a few guys have been molested by people within positions of power.
VieBleu ago
support for you and your brother.
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
Yes I agree with the Bible, I guess I was trying to say that I can't fathom how one human being can actually do this to another. I know the answer is that sin abounds and the love of many will wax cold.
waxdino ago
The government is run on pedophilia because it is used as blackmail to keep politicians in line. Have you been following along?
listentoreason2017 ago
what sub are we in?
JeremiahSinclair ago
But what about this document makes you believe it represents gays in general? That's a critically important detail.
PizzaStreamerLive ago
ugh... mods delete please. Please see rule number 2: "EVERY claim that is made as part of your post needs to be sourced." This post contains nothing other than a tile at this point.
remedy4reality ago
what the fuck do you know about submissions?
you don't have a single one on this sub GFY
PizzaStreamerLive ago
This post has no content or links or anything to back claims. Pretty simple. Don't need any posts to see it's waste of space.
remedy4reality ago
you're the waste of space, nitwit
I can drop a single sentence and get people talking and all you can do is whine and point at a rule book.. GFY
virtuous_pedophobe ago
In addition, homosexuality is also an important part of satanism - which is also part of PG
remedy4reality ago
she has deep post envy and gets upset when something she does not agree with get's traction
listentoreason2017 ago
You're mad at satanic, baby-eating pedos. Also BS?
DonaldWashington ago
look at this page https://idraintheswamp.com/home/the-international-center-for-missing-exploited-children/
quantokitty ago
The title for this post ... true.
aleeum ago
This post is an assumption. Call me a shill or whatever.
EllenPaosEgo ago
You do realize NAMBLA is a thing right? It is a large gay rights group that gets funds from the UN. It stands for North American Man Boy Love Association. Their motto is "8 is to late." You ought to do further research, there are several of these gay rights groups that are clear fronts for pedophiles.
JeremiahSinclair ago
Pedophilia is a big taboo in the gay community because gay men know many associate them with it. Gay men have sex with boys, straight men have sex with kids, it's worthless to "associate" gay marriage or homosexuality with pedophilia in any way IMO.
zzvoat ago
Mods this needs to be moved to v/pg whatever
remedy4reality ago
here we go... zzvoat with her little power play
and just what would be the reason of moving a thread that is spiking a lively debate? Answer: because zzvoat is a control freak
JeremiahSinclair ago
Who wrote the "gay manifesto," and how does it represent the views/desires of gays in general? I guarantee, whatever it is, that it doesn't.
remedy4reality ago
Make fun of us?? Did you see the Amazon Tweet today? Or the Progressive Insurance commercial? Or the trailer for the Simpsons where pizza boxes were used as dominoes? Are you aware that the entire MSM is ignoring the murder, torture and rape of children since this broke, and cracking one joke after another at their expense? Please don't tell me you think those forces are going to 'see it our way' if we just stay in our lane and try not to offend. This is war, Eva. This is about getting people moving. And just how many pedophiles wear a proud badge or declare their orientation? NEXT TO ZERO. So your statement ' I never run into pedophiles ' is well... meaningless.
listentoreason2017 ago
They won't tell you because they've never fucking heard of it and it's bullshit.
The velvet mafia doesn't exist idiot.
herbsmoke ago
You get it. Its like with the jewish thing and child molesting/sacrifice. People dont want to hear the truth, but both jews and gays admit to pedophilia in their own words
Buttfuckmebigfoot ago
That is pure and utter horse shit. If gay people or Jews have been involved in PG (by the vast size of this there have been) it doesn't have anything to do with evil gay or Jew cabals. Ugh I'm getting sick as shit seeing so much anti Semitism in PG votes.
herbsmoke ago
few link jew faggot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbLd688gXoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDoLMlZrsY
Buttfuckmebigfoot ago
The only reason you're thinking of JEW conspiracies is because you're bringing other beliefs you have of other conspiracies into this shit. I can't wait until someone comes up with all the kids who died in newtown were actually all Jews captured and sold into child sex slavery.
You're fucking retarded. Wait, that's too mean to retarded people. The guy with downs at my local Publix is awesome.
Because you're too stupid to separate your stupid fucking prejudices from PG you're going to keep us from saving these kids. When the general public sees a bunch of conspiracy faggots screaming about normal retarded conspiracy shit, we lose credibility.
"You're not only holding back these people, you're holding back humanity as a whole, you douche."
DeathToMasons ago
You sound rediculous. Gays are not part of an organized cult and do not admit to pedophilia. I don't like the tone of this thread. Reminds me of Alefantis fake protesters in front of CPP calling Alefantis a ferry or pointing out that he is a sick queer. Don't bring that bullshit here. Your screen name is on my radar. Hope this is not a habbit for you. I detest anybody who trys to do damage to this movement. I will assume you just are not an advanced thinker for now.
herbsmoke ago
alefantis is a faggot, faggot try again...hillary is an obvious lesbian
guwopthegod ago
If you're curious why no one takes us serious, it's because of shit like this.
I can't believe it has 9 upvotes.
herbsmoke ago
research it for yourself it clearly is said in many sources. in the case of jews its in their most holy book and hella rabbinical commentaries afterwards ton confirm that yes they meant it. with fags they are also super open about it research it faggot
remedy4reality ago
I can believe over 2 months you have accumulated 20 comment upvoats
druhill007 ago
If we want to really unearth the true source of the problems here we have to be precise. Like performing surgery on the body of humanity... if we want to remove the gallbladder we can't just say "oh its in that stomach area over there, just dive right in" :D
We can't just say. "oh all them jews are taking all the worlds money. GET EM!" or "oh all them gays are taking all our childrens. GET EM!"
are there a higher percentage of Jews within the shadow elite? perhaps. Is that due to inherent biological differences? I would argue no. It has more to do with the timing of world developments and the location of groups as the world coalesced.
Using shadow elite as example... You can perhaps say that Jewish population back in the day had slighly higher percentage of "will to power" compared to other sub groups, but to claim that a shadow elite formed because they were Jewish is incorrect.
That make sense?
klondike1412 ago
Talmud vs Torah jews is the religious split you are generally looking for. However it's like Freemasonry, even if the individual following the Talmud does not know they are doing evil themselves, they are used by the inner evil core of Sabbatean-Frankist worshippers who exploit the movement for evil ends. Anyone who supports Zionism is a tool of Sabbatean-Frankist beliefs which literally seek to bring Satan to the earth. That is the goal of Sabbatai Zevi. Half of Judaism has been twisted by him.
herbsmoke ago
jews have forsaken god over and over and were corrupted with satanism since ancient babylon and jews are the leaders of lgbt, jews are satanic faggots really...who rape children and then murder their victims for satan
druhill007 ago
Lolll... Some Jews* !!
It's impossible for that statement to be true. Bet 20 bucks I can find someone that is Jewish and also does NOT go around killing babies in 30 minutes.
roundhouse1776 ago
Jews make up less than 2% of the US population, yet make up 48% of the list of the country's richest people. This isn't a coincidence, it's an exclusive club.
The vast majority of Jews are just regular people like you or me, but they are massively over-represented among the world elite, and many are the driving forces behind the globalist agenda. It's just easier to say "the Jews" than to constantly clarify in regards to Zionists, globalist Jews, fake Jews etc.
druhill007 ago
I hear you on that point.
My point (and it's not fact or anything but I think it's true) is that the reason that number is so high isn't necessarily because inherent differences in humanity.
Say for example... at the start of the period in time where monetary control became possible, instead of the subset of humans knows as Jews being located in the area that allowed them to flourish it was an ethnicity called ZIMBABWEANS lol. In this artificial scenario, since the Zimbabweans happened to exist in this particular region during the rise of monetary rule (whatever you want to call it) it is now these Zimbabweans that own a majority of the globes wealth. Would you then conclude that these people were rich due to ethnicity or due to the composite of external factors that created the conditions for them to do so?
Newfind ago
I pray that Jesus enters into in to your heart and saves you.
herbsmoke ago
You do realize the pedos in comet and the white house are practicing satanists right? You cant really seperate pizzagate from religious stuff because we christians are in a supernatural battle with evil. I pray god opens your eyes. Instead of fighting us, you should be fighting the child raping/sacrificing satanists.
equineluvr ago
Wow. Check out that "little heart within big heart" (being eaten) at the end!! Excellent find.
Truewarrior ago
The HRC (Human Rights Campaign) an LGTB org was founded by a convicted child pedo who donated Obama campaign.
remedy4reality ago
EXACTLY... further reading >> James Alefantis friends taking children from other countries - Charles DeSantis (works for UN Refugee Agency)
redditsuckz ago
Both Charles and his brother David who is connected to James Alefantis are both gay.
Here is an image dump of some screenshots mostly from Charles DeSantis Facebook;
http://imgur.com/a/FbNjL
Album 2 - David DeSantis misc;
http://imgur.com/a/H5gy6
And they are continuing this tradition by raising their adopted kids this way.
remedy4reality ago
These are the creeps that set off alarms for me. Not only this shit, but DeSantis' position at UN adoption program. It's all right here in front of us.
therealkrispy ago
By definition, a "lifetime victim" wouldn't appeal to pedophiles after like, 18 years maximum. There are plenty of gay people that aren't pedophiles, there are plenty of gay married couple that don't adopt, there are plenty of straight birthparents that abuse their children. Don't broaden a very serious issue that's plaguing our nation to cover everything the Liberals stand for. Sometimes, in rare, fleeting moments, they aren't entirely wrong about things. Gay marriage should be a states' rights issue, and that's coming from me, a bisexual Republican.
That being said, it seems like the issue is the adoption system, child protective services, our wide open border, political elites and their diplomatic immunity, the media coverup, tunnels apparently under DC, and fake non profits stealing children from war-torn nations and natural disasters areas, not gay marriage.
virtuous_pedophobe ago
I disagree.
In my opinion, the main attraction of pedophilia is that they have total control over the child. And the whole point of MK-Ultra is to keep that control well into adulthood.
remedy4reality ago
Go and try and adopt a child as a single man.
Oh... and you NEVER STOP BEING A VICTIM OF CHILD MOLESTATION, EVER.
8pinkstars ago
Ever
therealkrispy ago
Again, that's the adoption system, not gay marriage.
I completely agree, thank you for correcting me on that one.
waxdino ago
The fastest way for pizzagate to go down the tubes will be for you homophobes to scream, "this is cuz a the gays!" Pizzagate already is slow to gain momentum because it's associated with alt-right, white nationalist, jew-hating, etc. Imagine someone coming here to learn about pizzagate and reading homophobic hatred and urban myths about how gays are boogiemen out to steal your ass virginity or whatever. It's fucking stupid. Goodbye ccp, I don't care. Most people do not have a problem with gay rights. I don't have a problem with people on voat being homophobic and racist. But pizzagate should be about supporting our government being run on pedophilia and our politicians making money on human suffering, or not.
As someone who has worked with and for the lgbt community, I have not known one fucking pedophile. I am as horrified as anyone by this. Pedophilia is not part of being gay, being gay is not the cause of pedophilia.
Orange_Circle ago
“The percentage of male homosexuals among convicted child molesters is many times higher than the percentage of male homosexuals in the general population”
https://rethinkingtheology.com/2012/10/22/links-between-homosexuality-and-pedophilia/
NotTooLate ago
The government is using it to get there. It is blatantly obvious. See wikileaks
Omnicopy ago
Hey Pedo!!
zunar ago
waxdino - you negated your so-called argument by this absurd statement: "Pizzagate already is slow to gain momentum because it's associated with alt-right, white nationalist, jew-hating, etc."
roundhouse1776 ago
All MSM talking points. I don't think waxdino is unplugged from the matrix, I wonder how he ended up on the pizzagate forum.
nimrodthegreat ago
It doesn't matter that you and other LBGT supporters abhor the pedos. The pedos are using the LBGT movement to expand, distort, and molest the public's definition of marriage. They see pedo marriage as just 1 more step past LBGT.
roundhouse1776 ago
Erosion of traditional family values and morals is a cornerstone of the globalist agenda.
Womb_Raider ago
I don't think he's saying every faggot ever is a pedophile, you're simplifying his message like a dingbat. He's saying they're using the TGLB movement to mask their activities, which personally I think would be ingenious of them, if true.
Hard to say one way or the other, but you don't have to exhibit homophobia excessively to say "there might be pedophiles hiding among gay communities"...
Don't be so fuckin' sensationalist
waxdino ago
My rant was directed at the comments, not op.
Womb_Raider ago
Ah, well yes, if people are screaming that gays and only gays are to blame, they're being short-sighted and foolish at best, and intentionally manipulating the narrative at worst.
meowski ago
Homosexuals have a higher propensity toward pedophilia. There are studies available on pubmed.gov.
Trs0817 ago
Hahaha dude you are so wrong. Gays don't breed, they infect. Childhood abuse is the most common theme amongst the gay population. Pedophilia is just one step away from sodomy.
kestrel9 ago
Harry Hay, while supporting the pro pedo movement happening in the UK, was rejected by the gay community. Pedos and pedo supporters will be part of any and all groups where they can blend in and target children. Some may even use quotes from religious text to try and divide the people who are united against the normalization of pedophila. Some might espouse outrage and storm out of the subject, with indignation. Internet is full of political trolls that protect the pedo establishment agenda by pretending to be anti gay, rights in order to distract attention from the subject. Then another can chime with "through the baby out with the bathwater!" in order to delegitimize the topic altogether, it could sound a lot like your post or even exactly like your post. Elements of the Republican party, claiming to be professing morality experts have covered up plenty of elite related pedophile rings. Pedos don't have to pretend to be gay in order to adopt children, they can go on an ad site and find kids that are handed over to them from adoptive mom who can no longer deal with the child (there was a case I read recently describing this). Signed over like a used car. CPS wasn't notified.
herbsmoke ago
Retard those faggots arent going to come out and tell you they fuck kids
l23r ago
most celibate priests aren't gonna come out and say they fuck kids either
herbsmoke ago
your right, thank god im not catholic
salvationman ago
i lold. you're my kind of guy.
herbsmoke ago
Gays and pedos are inseperable. Its gay men that invented the terms chicken and chicken hawk get it
equineluvr ago
"As someone who has worked with and for the lgbt community, I have not known one fucking pedophile."
Do you expect pedos to out themselves to you? LMAO!!!
I have ONE gay relative. Guess what? HE IS A PEDOPHILE!! Nobody in my family knew until he LOST HIS JOB for "inappropriate behavior with patients." (He was a psychiatrist!)
EarlPoncho ago
this kind of thinking is actually the biggest problem. your vanilla, don't offend anyone type thinking is what causes a lot of problems. hate mangina pussies like you
VieBleu ago
ha! I don't think so. The biggest problem is not vanilla thinking - it is criminals who think and act like criminals, and they happen to come from all walks of life, but especially the church, the police, the government, the universities, the schools, Umm gee, everywhere there is straight AND gay society in fact.. Period.
remedy4reality ago
You know I love ya Vie, but..... I believe we have exposed a core of the most powerful people in the world doing craven, horrible things to children, who have constructed a vast network to profit off the misery and body parts of human beings, while consolidating absolute power and dominion over the world. JA was at the White House playing ping pong with the President of the United States, for Christ sake! We are not confronting run of the mill sex offenders, these are Satanic social engineers. The push to give equal rights to gays has been accepted by most of America and for good reasons, but there is every reason to believe this blood cult will exploit that to the fullest.
Because, really... who picks on gay people ? A: repressed homosexuals
VieBleu ago
"The push to give equal rights to gays has been accepted by most of America and for good reasons, but there is every reason to believe this blood cult will exploit that to the fullest." I agree with this - but they would exploit any push, any corner of civil liberties, any tolerance or sense of humanity we have. So if it wasn't gay rights it would be children's rights, or parent's rights, animal rights, or equal rights. Anything.
They are simply exploiters, doesn't matter what the current social issue is. And if gay rights have happened for good reasons, then they need to happen. We can't lose our humanity in the face of inhumanity.
Too bad we can't hash this out over a good red in a real cafe, like the civilized do. Love ya back ; )
"Because, really... who picks on gay people ? A: repressed homosexuals." Ha so true! Hastert was supposed to be especially tough with his gay legislation. Slime.
waxdino ago
If that were true, I wouldn't hang out on this site. I am saying that pizzagate should be, "are you offended by baby fucking? Then join us." Not, "unless you're gay, cause you all started it."
*you're.
And, did you assume my gender?
I hope I've offened you. Fuck off now.
EllenPaosEgo ago
Pedos shpuld not be given any leniency just because some are also gay. Gays are less than 3% of the population and make up around 40% of all child predators. There is a very strong correlation between them, even more than blacks and murder. Have you ever wondered why gay men almost exclusively adopt boys and lesbians adopt girls? Have you ever seen a gay pride parade, they have 10 year old boys shaking their asses while adult men crowd around with raging erections. A lot of the time they walk around naked or in BDSM gear while the adopted children walk around and have to see this. I ask one thing of you, why should gay pedophiles be treated any different than the straight ones. The truth fears no investigation. Since almost half of all child predators are gay, and NAMBLA is a thing, we have to go against some of the pedo gays as well eventually. Don't shy away from the truth just because it is not PC, you knew what you were getting yourself into when you joined this investigation.
remedy4reality ago
Ha !!!!! You are participating in EXACTLY what I am identifying. Thank you for a clear demonstration of how PEDOPHILES plan to HIDE BEHIND THE LBGT MOVEMENT, just like the anti-gay false flag protest outside Comet on election night. How did those idiots come to the conclusion that Comet/PG was about homosexuals? They didn't. They were handed a script and some made to order protest signs 'GOD HATES FAGS!' It was a sympathy play for Alefantis and his gang of child rapists and a blatant attempt to hijack the narrative. And here you are, accusing me of being a homophobe, right on cue. I have ZERO problem with gays. I have gay friends, relatives and co-workers and I do not feel threatened in the least.
( btw.... Alefantis and Scott Cummings are pedophiles hiding behind the LBGT movement, in case you missed it ) #hotard #chickenlover #killroom
featheredmasks ago
are you mentally challenged
sponiatowski ago
And what do most other pedophiles hide behind?
EllenPaosEgo ago
Religion mostly, however that topic has been talked about a lot. NAMBLA and other pedo groups hiding behind gay rights has not been talked about very much.
sponiatowski ago
It's of concern for "adoptions" isn't it. Most pedophiles (that we know of) are men, though we probably need to broaden the definition. Now that two men can legally marry they can legally adopt children. What if the two men are pedophiles who are only together to have easy access to children to create sex slaves? That needs to be investigated and thwarted if possible. At the same time, a different sex married couple could do the same thing, for whatever reason. That needs to be looked at too. Adoption agencies really need to vet the parents better. I have heard that there are tests that show people suggestive photography and measure the pupils of their eyes. If they narrow, they are stimulated. I think a test like that could expose a pedophile or prevent the procurement of a sex slave for a couple where one party is disinterested in a sexual relationship. In many ways, this pizza gate scandal could help heal the nation.
Proii_Pariah ago
Absolutely! I've known of this passage for decades but now you can see it manifest everywhere. Romans 1:18-32
JesusRules ago
Sounds like he was talking about the USA of today.
lawfag123 ago
Interesting take on gay marriage. The effect of the law may be, in some, perhaps many cases, legislated child exploitation.
remedy4reality ago
Yep... connect the corrupt CPS and HHS and any number of shady adoption agencies and you have an infrastructure and a legal mandate. It's happening right now.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
While I don't doubt this is happening, it shouldn't be used to attack same sex marriage.
Additionally, this post fails rule 2.
KNOW THIS>> don't get shitty when commenter's contribute to your post with other information.
Don't cry about having your thread hijacked, especially when is a poor post such as this one.
virtuous_pedophobe ago
Why shouldn't it be used to attack gay marriage?
The "bigots" pretty much predicted Pizzagate decades ago. And what else do you expect when you tell a whole generation that they are not only allowed but required to go after sexual gratification.
Cases like Dahmer did not exist before the 1960s. That proves that they indeed were not "born that way" but were products of their time.
remedy4reality ago
I'm not attacking gay marriage, I am making people aware of the subterfuge occurring within the movement. How can you not see that is EXACTLY what is happening with Comet Ping Pong and Pizzagate? Did you see the FAKE anti-gay protest outside of Comet last month? They know exactly what the fuck they are doing and unsophisticated people just like you fall right in line.
listentoreason2017 ago
How do you know they're fake anti-gay protests? Because you don't want them to be associated with pizzagate?
remedy4reality ago
because I have a functioning brain
How did you miss what nearly everybody on this sub understood was FAKE ? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1581015
listentoreason2017 ago
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder108/500x/75882108.jpg
VictorSteinerDavion ago
I'll do as I damn well please and count yourself lucky I haven't deleted the post myself.
There's no point lecturing someone who is unwilling to learn, lets see how you go
remedy4reality ago
I'm way ahead of you. Don't shower yourself with so much affection.
sponiatowski ago
Excuse me, Pedophiles are hiding behind the Catholic Church, CPS, the State Department, the CIA, Christian Youth Groups, the Senate, the House of Representatives...who gives a whip about the LBGT Movement at this juncture. However, it is possible that two same-sex pedophiles can now get married and adopt children for nefarious purposes. That might need watching...but there are a lot of sicker people to deal with that are in hiding in greater numbers with greater powers than the LGBT movement.
Votescam ago
As I'm saying above, none of these criminal activities can go on without the protection of a corrupted government. The State Dept., Officials in government, the Military (which Detective Rothstein has pointed out is too rarely not connected to this trafficking - certainly the RCC which is worldwide and mentioned as involved in many of the international scandals and investigations. And, of course, our Congress and our intelligence services. And every branch of military has an intelligence service. And, many of the secret organizations which undermine our attempt at democracy.
And I agree with you here --
Another complicating factor is that while pedophiles may be only 4% of the population, they can be created by new pedophile activity and by MKULTRA programs of torture and sexual abuse for government use.
remedy4reality ago
the see eye ay is the employment placement agency that fills the other 3 letter agencies with its fragmented drones
sponiatowski ago
Thanks votescam. I think we've created our own monsters after WW2. And curses come home to roost.
remedy4reality ago
Don't hijack my thread... Predators are undermining the legitimate elements of the LBGT movement and putting gains at risk.You think I am not aware of your laundry list of complicit organizations and agencies? And this is different, you know why? Because, through legalized adoption it gives them access to VERY YOUNG OR INFANT victims who will be far easier to condition and fragment, creating millions of future pedophiles in a generation or two. It's institutionalizing and codifying access, which is not written into any of the charters of the entities or 3 letter agencies that may harbor a certain number of pedophiles.
NotTooLate ago
Yeah, don't hijack this. See wikileaks UN NAMBLA. They have got in already legally under the LGBT group. THIS IS IMPORTANT because they are psyop-ing everyone!
sponiatowski ago
That's what comments are for...aren't they? How can you speak of the LBGT movement being undermined when all the institutions I mentioned that have actual power over Americans are undermined. Can you stop being so selfish! I mean, even with legitimate comments on your message board. Come on!
herbsmoke ago
Gays are the trojan horse to make pedophilia palatable to the masses, and judging from your response its working
sponiatowski ago
You mean all the CIA, the Governors, the Senators and the Congressmen involved with pedophilia or its cover-up are gay? The impoverished mother pimping out her child is gay? The mother handing her child over to a corrupt CPS agent is gay? Is that the problem here?
herbsmoke ago
yes they are all satanic faggots that rape and kill children for satan. this is pizzagatae...and they all work for jews and the vatican who are the whore of babylon and synogogue of satan...
sponiatowski ago
Now, let's reign it in with the facts. "All" is a word only the "elite" use. God is not in the word "all" or "legion". "I Am" and "individual" definitely is implied.
remedy4reality ago
Holy shat... do you have a source? I have never heard that !
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
I will never understand this kind of unnatural affection. It's plain evil to treat any child like this especially one of your own.
sponiatowski ago
It's enslavement to raise a child to be a specific sex slave or life partner of anyone or any one group. In a world where breasts are injected with silicone to attract grown males one can safely say that "natural" is not the norm any longer. Or maybe they just weren't weaned properly? Were they? "Tickle-tickle little nursing baby boy", that too would be pedophilia. That shouldn't be understandable either.
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
Are you saying that breast feeding is pedophilia?
sponiatowski ago
You're confusing the issue. I hope not on purpose, for I included plastic and silicone in my explanation as well. Don't miss that point.
I'm saying not weaning a boy child properly or leaving a child "over-stimulated" during the nursing and/or weaning process IS pedophilia, and it leads to a socially acceptable form of enslavement. No one know what goes on under the blankie but the mother and the infant( if he can grasp it)...but we sure do have an absolutely astonishing amount of adult males being overstimulated by the sight of breasts.
This overstimulation at the sight of the female breast translating into adulthood is found absolutely no where in nature yet it is a societally acceptable fetish encouraged by females even in plastic or silicone form. This fetish comes from somewhere, doesn't it? Who else could commit the pedophilia that made this fetish linger into adulthood. And yes, it is abuse and pedophilia if it is sexual in nature with a desired infantilism to be manifested into the adulthood of the innocent on which the pedophilia was performed.
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
Okay I agree that breasts become a fetish in our society, however it seems to me that it has to do with oversexualizing them through media and modern attitudes.
sponiatowski ago
I agree SweetCarolyn,, and I think you'll agree with me that vampires feed off of wounds. And I believe that the greatest wounds are planted in childhood, either intentionally or unintentionally. I must admit I overheard some women talking in the lounge at work who admitted to encouraging some things about nursing to make sure her son grew up "straight". I don't know much about breastfeeding but over time drew this connection. A group in a lounge is not a thorough study, however I connected the dots and came to disapprove. I call what they spoke of "pedophilia".
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
Oh like the fathers that took their sons to have sex with prostitutes to "keep them from being gay"? That's just plain WRONG! I breastfed my children and I know that there was NOTHING sexual about it!
sponiatowski ago
Not every breast feeder is a pedophile. Nor every father. Nor every homosexual. But every pedophile is harmful. There are a lot of things our parents did that were wrong, but I know my parents did the best they could with what they had to work with...and I have sympathy for all these children that were sold or pimped out by their parents...knowingly or unknowingly. How such kids turn out remains to be seen, but they usually commit the same mistakes. It's time for government to find out why this primitivism continues and move to correct the matter. It's time we look at this issue with new eyes. And be kinder and more watchful with newly educated eyes. Nice talking with you, Sweet Carolyn. No matter what happens with this issue or how we disagree, I believe you to be a concerned and a good person at heart.
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
Well thank you very much Sponiatowski I desire very much that ALL pedophiles no matter WHO they are be arrested and that children to be protected. Children are innocent victims and don't deserve such horrible treatment!
sponiatowski ago
No, the innocent should never suffer. It's a horrible deed.
l23r ago
This. Or by covering up the natural function of tits (feeding infants) When you grow up in a society where people are shamed or outright forbidden from feeding their baby in public, it's no wonder people think the only thing tits are good for is pitching a tent.
SweetCarolyn_4Jesus ago
Yes that's a good point.